: Special for Bro-Ham

06-19-10, 01:32 AM
It's a '79! It's a d'Elegance! It's a diesel! Trifecta!


06-19-10, 01:45 AM
And here I thought the first year for the Olds diesel was 1980.

I really like that D'Elegance interior package, love that velour and the color combo.

06-19-10, 01:56 AM
I am in love with that interior.

Bro-Ham, are you in need of a second car? I think so! :D

06-19-10, 02:15 AM
MMMMMM, Diesel...

06-19-10, 03:28 AM
Rattle Rattle Rattle...

06-19-10, 04:34 AM
Well I'm going to call it out, and say that the diesel sucks. Everybody knows the disaster of the Olds 350 diesel, but even good diesels of that time period sucked. The technology was simply not there.

The Mercedes 2.4L 4 cylinder non-turbocharged diesel, you know, the 240D in the W123 chassis, was known to run to 300-500k without a rebuild. Yet it had all of 73hp pushing a 3000lb car, was noisy, stinky, didn't like starting in cold weather, topped out at 90mph downhill, shook the car at idle, smoked like a steam train, and wouldn't pull a grade with a full load of passengers/luggage.

06-19-10, 07:33 AM
Though I like this car, I'll point out that that is a GM replacement motor under the hood, not the original... :bigroll:

06-19-10, 07:41 AM
That broken rear map light must've been knocked out by a 6" spiked heel - during a night filled with passion, no doubt.....

06-19-10, 07:56 AM
I'm thinking 135k not 35k

06-19-10, 09:57 AM
Though I like this car, I'll point out that that is a GM replacement motor under the hood, not the original... :bigroll:

The replacements were far more durable than the originals, especially the early builds of '79.

06-19-10, 10:00 AM
Craig, Thanks for thinking of me. I had already spotted this car and it made me smile. :) 79 Cadillac diesels are quite rare indeed. This particular car isn't for me since it has no history, it's faded and slightly too tacky, and I'm not partial to 2-door Cadillacs. My heart will pound with excitement at the same time my body will quiver with fear when a mint condition low mileage 79 Fleetwood Brougham diesel appears on the scene, to torture me it would probably be some sexy color combination like red with white top and white interior. If I did buy one of these clacking heaps I'd be sure to keep my current 79 425 deVille so I could be assured of some semblance of Cadillac reliability. :)

geez, you're right that the engine in this 79 Coupe is not the original - the replacements have the "goodwrench" logo. The 5.7 diesel was as perfected as possible by 1983 and discontinued after the 1985 model year. GM replaced faulty older engines with the owners participating nominally. I see one of these 5.7 diesels on the road about once every blue moon and they come up for sale nearly as infrequently.

Aron, the first year of the 5.7 Olds diesel was for the 1978 model year. Cadillac Eldorado and Seville got the diesel right away for 1979 and deVille and Fleetwood Brougham got the diesel mid year 1979, so they are quite rare. The rest of the GM lines got the diesel in 1980. Also in 1980, the redesigned Seville had the diesel as standard equipment.

Aron, the Mercedes 240D is indeed a nice driving car - you're generous to say they had 73hp, it was actually 68hp the last year they were made back in 1983. :) I've owned a bunch of MB diesels so I know them well, for better or for worse: 2-1985 300D's, 1983 300CD, 1985 300CD, 1985 300TD, 1981 300SD, 1983 300SD, 1985 300SD, 1987 300D, 1991 350SDL, and a 1997 E300 Diesel that I bought brand new. I lived in Minnesota when I owned all of these and they were all decent in the winter if you operated them by the book. I still think about the possibility of owning another MB diesel and the 1983 240D is high on the list along with a 1985 300D or 1985 300SD.

06-19-10, 02:37 PM
Let's talk about diesels, or Phaetons or Cadillacs of any kind enjoyed or owned by Cadillac people. :) Chins UP. :)

06-19-10, 10:56 PM
I should clarify my remarks above - I was rolling my eyes at a different post, not this topic, and I was tempted to make a comment on it but decided to press my ignore button and make a plea for more fun car conversations in this thread.

I am still amazed that we don't have a 5.7 diesel Cadillac owner as one of the talkers in this forum. I may have to up the cocktail intake and be the guinea pig so we can really have some engine conversations... :)

06-19-10, 11:12 PM
Only diesel I own is my 1991 Toymota Coaster camper....4.2 6 cylinder 5 speed...

06-19-10, 11:16 PM
Only diesel I own is my 1991 Toymota Coaster camper....4.2 6 cylinder 5 speed...

That's a vehicle I'm not familiar with - what is a Toymota Coaster camper?? :)

06-19-10, 11:31 PM
Toyota Coaster.....was a 23 seat minibus...currently being fitted out for travel...it's not quite luxurious enough to be called a motor home..


seven metres long....


06-19-10, 11:48 PM
That looks like a cocktail lounge on wheels! I love it! It's a Toyota not a Toymota - now it makes sense. :)

06-20-10, 12:05 AM
A friend has a caprice that originally had the olds deisel. Someone put regular gas on it so he swapped it out. I used to love how he would let it sit there idling forever. It has the heavy duty suspension, sits up a little higher and has deisel badging. How do you fix one that had regular gas in it?

06-20-10, 03:42 AM
How do you fix one that had regular gas in it?

By parking it on the train-tracks and hoping there is nothing but little pieces when you get back. :lildevil:

06-20-10, 08:57 AM
My next car will have a 5.7 diesel. It's just too novel to resist. :)

06-20-10, 03:57 PM
I would like to do a 5.7 diesel in a Roadmaster wagon...

06-20-10, 05:16 PM
Jay, Go square and get a 1985 or older Electra Estate Wagon diesel. :)

06-20-10, 06:22 PM
Bubble wagons are king!

Jay you can't turn into Bill... :lol:

Robin Banx
06-21-10, 12:39 AM
Like the Roo bars. Not really necessary on this side of the pond.