: GMPP Questions



Philby
05-29-10, 09:40 AM
I'm down to a few month's left on factory warranty for my '06. What can you tell me about GMPP? Is the pricing negotiable, options, can you only buy it through the dealer, challenges with claims?

cad08stsv
05-30-10, 07:26 AM
Good Morning Philby,
I purchased one for my 03 Seville STS, It seems it doesn't cover quite a few things like the origninal one did. I don't know if your ride is a high milage car or not. Mine has 23100 miles on it so, I have only had to show it to the dealer once and that part was not covered. I think Consumers Reports has stated that they are of no real value, because of what it doesn't cover. I suppose if the drive train go's bad than it may be of some value. It depends on the deductable you choose. Bottom line is I have only had to use it once. It is worth it I don't really know. If the drive train is in good condition than I would say no. Phillby I hope this helps. Best of luck with your ride.
Russell

ozmt
05-30-10, 03:58 PM
i think that the complicated and expensive nature of our STS-V's, it would be borderline crazy not to have GMPP.
I shopped around for about 2 months and finally settled on purchasing from Fitchner Chevrolet in Montana. You get to talk directly to the owner. He cuts it to the bone. It is about $1075 for a 24/24 with $100 deductible.
One moderate to major breakdown, and you're so far ahead you'll be happy you did it.
As far as consumer reports goes, I called them as a subscriber, and asked them what warranties they were writing about. They told me that they were specifically writing about the odd named services, not necessarily the factory sponsored warranties. That made me feel more comfortable in my purchase.
oz

silverws6ta
05-30-10, 06:49 PM
i think that the complicated and expensive nature of our STS-V's, it would be borderline crazy not to have GMPP.
I shopped around for about 2 months and finally settled on purchasing from Fitchner Chevrolet in Montana. You get to talk directly to the owner. He cuts it to the bone. It is about $1075 for a 24/24 with $100 deductible.
One moderate to major breakdown, and you're so far ahead you'll be happy you did it.
As far as consumer reports goes, I called them as a subscriber, and asked them what warranties they were writing about. They told me that they were specifically writing about the odd named services, not necessarily the factory sponsored warranties. That made me feel more comfortable in my purchase.
oz

100% Agreed -- a GMPP is as secure a warranty as you can get; There won't be any questions, no dealership having to call the warranty company for authorization -- those that have to see a 'broken part' (aka a good dealer will beat the sh!t out of a part then call the claims for the picky ones :shhh:)

Consumer Reports needs to stick to rating push mowers, washing machines, refrigerators and dryers; IMHO.. Too much BS in their comparisons;

Psycho-albanian
05-30-10, 10:07 PM
I have the gmpp plan for 100,000 miles and my car is up to 77,000 miles and am scared about how much maintinence is gonna cost when my warranty is up at 100,000 miles. Can we extend our gmpp say another 50,000 miles if so, how much would it cost.

cad08stsv
05-31-10, 01:02 AM
Gentleman,
Have you used your GMPP warranties? I also am a subscriber to consumer reports and they have stated many time exxtented warranties did not
justify the additional cost assocated with them. I did not know consumer reports offices were open on Sunday. Comfort level is one thing, usage
level is another. Why do you think I purchased the first GMPP on my 03 STS, In the three years I have had it, I have only displayed it to the
dealer once and the claim was denied. I do agree with you Gentleman that if the drive train go's bad than it is worth it for sure. If It is the minor
problems that they will not cover. See if they will cover a headlight unit? The dealers in this erea have not, nor will thay jepordise there franchise
for a part thay have to damage the part further in order to justify a claim. I do not wish to seem as though I am against the GMPP. I just don't see
the drive train going anytime soon, within the time limit provided with the additional coverage. You be the judge. I call it as I see it. Cost vs usage of the warranty. Do you think the GMPP will cover your Mods, such as Blower upgrades, Intake Mods, If they figure out you are using a W4M Tuner??????
Thank you Dan, and Ozmt for the band with on this subject, and for your kind attention to this matter. Do have a great week end and lets not
forget to support this forum. This is value for your money, well spent.
Later
Russell :stirpot:

CIWS
05-31-10, 09:04 AM
Unless you have an extra 3000-5000.00 just sitting in an account to pay for repairs on this car I would not own it without a warranty. It's not that it's a bad car or is troublesome. But when things break, and they will break, they are expensive to get repaired, especially if dealing with parts you have to get or have fixed through the dealership. As we've seen with our threads here there are certain parts many owners are having go bad on them like the Nav/Radios, wheel bearings, and catalytic converters. Anyone want to guess what one of out Cats cost if you had to pay for it ? Overall the engines/powertrain seems pretty sound with relatively few owners reporting engine specific problems. But as with many cars as you go beyond the 100K mark, things do go bad.

I personally do not know if you can get GMPP beyond 100K miles (I doubt it). But that's a simple question to ask anyone that sells the warranty. It would simply be the question of paying for that or taking that cash and setting it aside to cover them yourself.

ozmt
05-31-10, 12:25 PM
ca08stv
I did not say that i called them on Sunday. I said I called them prior to buying my GMPP. I strongly believe that $1150 is cheap piece of mind. One blip in areas that are already concerns like, wheel bearings, rear diffs, and any of the electronic stuff, and this warranty pays for itself. Heaven forbid an engine or supercharger goes! I can't even imagine the bill if someone spins a rod bearing. It's got to be close to 5 figures to repair or replace.
Anyone have an engine replaced yet? How about supercharger? What was your costs?
Everyone have a great Memorial Day.
oz

blebert
05-31-10, 12:58 PM
Last week the odometer on my 07 STS-V was reading 49,900, and I decided to go the extended warranty route. I went with the 36 mo/36,000 mile plan w/ $50 ded. At the time of purchase, I did ask about future extensions, and was surprised by the answer- I was told that it is renewable as long as you have >3,000 miles and > 3 months left on the contract. Admittedly, we did not talk costs, but I was told that GM would go up to 10 yrs from the in service date.

This is my second GMPP purchase in about 3 months, as my XLR went out of warranty in February. Personally, I wouldn’t own either of these cars w/o some type of coverage for the major components. Like the other posters, the GMPP is the only plan I would ever consider. IMO, any 3rd party provider plan has bad news written all over it.

cad08stsv
05-31-10, 02:02 PM
Ciws, Good Afternoon,
I have owned a few Cadillacs, I still own an 03 STS Good car runs good no raal problems yet. Should there be any, I will fix
it and sell it. As you have seen I do not put a lot of miles on my cars. I do lots of prentive care on them. But this car is not
a hot rod. I use public transportation when I can. I carry tin and I'm packing so I am not worried about the muts on the trains. I don't buy hot rods to use as daily drivers. My 96 Impala SS is a hot rod. I have lots of money in it. Hell it was out of warranty before it had 1000 miles on it. I bought it new. I never part with any of my hot rods, I also have a 68AMX, That car is a monster. I love it. This 08 STS V is going to be a hot rod also. I like the interior and exterior colors and as James at D3 customizes it I will love it more. The car only has a little over 7200 miles on it. I bought used because the color combo is no longer avalible. So I am not to worred about the Nav or the cats or wheel bearing as yet. I guess when I lower it that will be out the window. If the Nav go's bad I will install an Alpine A/V system in it. Be as it may if you can't stand the heat stay out
of the Kitchen. Buy a Toyota or something as a daily driver and keep the V for fun. Thank you for your time. I do enjoy a good
converstion, particularly about cars. I have love them since I can remember. My first car was a 57 Ford Fairlane 500 with a
352 Thunderbird interseptor with duel quads and 3 speed & OD. I wish I still had it. Have a great day. I love life, and I like this
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silverws6ta
05-31-10, 06:02 PM
I'm on the GMPP end of the spectrum; You don't have to jump through hoops for coverage; and all it would take is 1 moderate/major repair; and with Major Guard Coverage; all the electronics are also covered. All my vehicles are paid for and two of them are still under factory warranties; I don't play russian roulette when it comes to these things; I don't want to pay for a vehicle twice in financing, and if I'm going to enjoy it I don't want to pay for it twice in warranty repairs -- that just means its time for another vehicle by then. I won't be installing any aftermarket BS in a vehicle that costs this much. Nor my Escalade EXT. I renewed my GMPP on my WS6 Trans Am TWICE -- The second one expiring in '06 (it was a 2000 model). If you plan on keeping the car, and you have a dealer that will 'work' with you with mods -- then its well worth it. I had a buddy with NITROUS on his Trans Am and the dealership ignored that and made repairs because it was obvious it wasn't realted to the repair. If you have an intake -- so what? If you have an ECU; some don't even care; or do like me and swap it out with the original if you want to feel 100% 'safe' at a dealership you don't have a close relationship with.

My car wasn't purchased until 6/15/07 and I purchased in 6/26/08 - so my warranty is good until next June. I'm going to wait it out a little longer, just because I want a ZR1, but I have a feeling that the V, will be the one hanging around; and my old school rides will be finding new homes.

cad08stsv
05-31-10, 06:51 PM
Dan
Have agreat day. Thank you
Russell

BlownV
06-01-10, 12:06 AM
I just purchased an 06 STS-V this past month and finally joined the forum today...so take it easy on me for being a newb to the Caddy culture. :)

I saw this thread about the extended warranties and thought I would toss in my .02 since I already have experience with this topic. Because the 4 yr factory warranty ran out the week after I bought the car, I did purchase an extended 4 yr / 50k warranty for ~$1000 with $100 deductible.

I took the vehicle in for service last week to replace the steering wheel position sensor that was intermittently failing, plus a normal OLF and requested them to mic the brakes and look into a slight clunking noise in the rear diff area. Turned out the noise in the diff area was the bushings (common it seams on this vehicle). The warranty covered their replacement as well as an update to the PCM and the steering wheel position sensor.

Total cost was ~$1000 and I paid $100. As far as I am concerned the warranty has already paid for itself after a month. I would highly suggest an extended warranty on any vehicle where the known maintenance costs are high (pretty much OEM only parts) and the benefit of going to the dealer is worthwhile (ie mechanic Joe working on common cars vs. the more rare ones like the V's).

Dave

cad08stsv
06-01-10, 09:05 AM
Gentelman,
Just because I had a bad experance with GMPP does not mean that it is a bad deal. I am pleased you people have gotten some real value out of the warranties. This is not personnal
it's just for discussion. We all have a right to our opinons. This is America, Thanks for a good conversation. Thanks guys.
Russell

Roll on Mr. Spaceman
06-08-10, 06:59 PM
Warranty up in a couple months contemplating GMPP. Probably have to get it as its the best option but check out what was posted by Bee iLL that isnt covered. No choice but frustrating. Someone said:

there are certain parts many owners are having go bad on them like the Nav/Radios, wheel bearings, and catalytic converters. Anyone want to guess what one of out Cats cost if you had to pay for it ?

So in that case your SOL:

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/attachments/cadillac-sts-v-series-forum/57169d1269960412-gm-protection-plan-questions-notcovered.jpg

Anyone have a heads up comparison of what's not covered?

Thanks

coach123
06-08-10, 08:15 PM
I had heard that the catalytic converters are warrantied by GM for 7 years or 80,000 miles. This is federally regulated so it should be this way on all cars. Unfortunately, I have not seen this in writing so if someone could verify this it would be great.

Roll on Mr. Spaceman
06-08-10, 08:30 PM
The link I quoted put up by Bee iLL clearly says not. So much ambiguity.......

coach123
06-08-10, 09:56 PM
I am not talking about the GMPP warranty.

RollonMr.Spaceman... Please refer to this link:

http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1431883

CIWS
06-09-10, 11:45 AM
I had heard that the catalytic converters are warrantied by GM for 7 years or 80,000 miles. This is federally regulated so it should be this way on all cars. Unfortunately, I have not seen this in writing so if someone could verify this it would be great.


http://www.epa.gov/oms/consumer/warr95fs.txt

coach123
06-09-10, 12:08 PM
Thanks for posting the link CIWS. :thumbsup: This was the document I was referring too. I think everyone should read this and at least print it out to keep with them if they have problems with their local dealerships not warranting their work.

Roll on Mr. Spaceman
06-09-10, 02:11 PM
Thank you CIWS!