First off, just let me say WOW, those Caddy's are very sweet! Love the look off that front end, and those brakes are amazing!

Anyway, I met up with a friend of mine who had recently purchased an 04 V. He was returning from a trip around the country (literally, starting in Mass, going to Wash, Cali, where he pulled on his friends M5!, Grand Canyon and back towards me). We met for some burgers at a local joint, and I took him for a ride in the SHO (he was a SHO owner previously). Well, as I am seeing him on his way, we decide to see how the two compare. Now, let me set this up first, so as not to set of any alarms. He had two passengers, I had one. He had lots of luggage, I had none. He was stock 400hp, I am far from stock, and making a lot of power (custom IC'd turbo system).

First race in low boost (8psi), I am in third gear (assume he is as well) @ 55mph. We held even for about a second, then the SHO starts walking. As the boost reaches full potential I am pulling away decently. Grab 4th and I have about a car on the V. Once in the 4th the pull continues up until we have to slow for upcoming traffic. All in all, from 55-110 I may have grabbed about two cars. V held it's own quite well.

Next race I decide to give her full boost, and we start in 2nd gear. This one was a little more lopsided. Going from about 40 we go on three honks again. Again, his instant power holds him even for a bit, but as soon as the turbo is fully boiling I start walking, and hard. SHO is up a car when I grab third. Third is pulling nicely and it looks like I get another 2 cars in 3rd. Grab fourth and just put some nails in the coffin with anothe 2 cars. Final tally, from 40-120 about 5 cars, but again, stock V (with extra weight) vs heavily modified turbo SHO. And trust me, I would trade the SHO and my left nut in a second for the Caddy. Very sweet ride.

Sounds like alot of fun. But that's the beauty of a turbo. Weight does have alot to do with it. Maybe one day you should try it again when you're both empty. I'm sure it will be a little more fun. :lildevil:

It is still a Taurus :hide:

Yeah, it's still a Taurus. But some of us aren't so lucky to have the cash or just don't want to risk being snooty and thus don't drive a V.

I have been lucky enough to own both. Now the V may hand the SHO it's lunch but it's not as fun to rev. And unless you're talking a S/C Mallet, noone here is touching the TurboSHO.

Sorry to have to embarass the V community, but don't bother racing a white Gen I SHO with a black hood. And he's a friend of mine. So sorry it's only a Taurus.

If he's a friend, then why did you invite him here to spin his enticing tale of pulling so many car lengths on a V (or M5 for that matter)? Is this somehow of interest to the regulars here? :hmm:

Hey James, thought you might be here.

No, BigJim did not invite me here, I just thought I would post the race and video since it was with the Caddy. Never been a fan, but the V has changed my mind. Beautiful car, and I am stoked that the domestic companies are finally making a serious contender for those European uber-sedans. Meant no disprespect, and not here to troll, only interested in sharing and learning.

:histeric:


Oh and BTW http://www.taurusclub.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=9138

I just thought I would post the race and video since it was with the Caddy.

You make good videos..
I always liked your "sho_speed_project" video.. :D

10 links and 200 posts later... no video.

:tsucks:

Big fan of SHOs here, sawyour post in the other section here. Nice kill, and I'dlove to see your car!

10 links and 200 posts later... no video.

:tsucks:

Sorry sorry, but I have not been home since the race. As soon as I get home the vid will be made and I will send it to someone to host. You should see something by Monday night.

When I still owned my '92 and before I decided to s/c it, I attended the '99 National SHO Convention in Atlanta. I knew the previous owner of the Turbo SHO.

And as a fairly new mod, on a 98 degree day, 1000 ft above sea level and on street tires, I saw that thing spin and spin and spin its tires even more AND STILL turn in a mid 13 sec at 109mph.

That was before TurboSHO invested in increasing boost, improving the suspension and getting better rubber. And if you ever thought our Vs were hard to launch, try dragging a 400hp+ FWD car.

And there IS a video. My brother was in the car and he had the camera.

Wheres the video you promised???

Cough Cough

I'll believe it when I see the video.
This thing has been posted on multiple forums now and none of them have seen a video either. It's a tall tale without proof.

Other sources:
http://www.shoforum.com/showthread.php?t=33830
http://www.taurusclub.com/forum/ind...?showtopic=9138
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20039

I've owned a SHO, own a V and frequent both this forum and SHOforum equally. A tall tale? No. Unless you don't believe me then I guess you'd have to question whether I even own a V. I guess I just paid someone to take that picture of "a" V on Beartooth Pass in the Rockies. And I'm just hijacking someone else's info on wheelhop issues, oil temp quandries and the feel of autocrossing a V.

By the lack of response to my posts, I guess many must feel that way. Is it thebigjimsho forum name? I owned a SHO for years, have it for an aol name and my name on SHOforum. It's me.

That video exists unless my brother messed up in recording. Believe me, I'd rather edge out any SHO after working my ass off for nearly a year, selling the SHO AND trading in my Accord to pay for a V. But there are many supercharged SHOs getting well over 400hp TO THE WHEELS. There are many videos floating around of track prepped SHOs mingling with some high-priced exotics......and beating some. Tim has 1 of maybe 2 FI SHOs that are turbos. His dyno numbers are legit. The race is legit. If he gets the time to have the video hosted and running, you'll see. Don't believe me if you choose. It's up to you.

And I would love to see the video too.

Guys, Guys....
If you want to get into turbo cars that will put a hurting on both SHO's and the V's, pick yourself up a 1986 or 1987 Buick Turbo Regal (aka - Grand National). I own one V and one Buick GN. The GN is one of the best engineered perfomance cars the General ever made. It runs 11.9 on an unopened motor and there are a few guys in my Buick club running 11.5's (I hope to get there before the fall is over).

Now granted, if you have to stop or turn the car, you will have your hands full. But, flat out straight line performance is awesome. 17 year old technology and a 6 cylinder to boot...Pins you to the seat with slicks or wins the burn-out contests wherever you go, on street tires.

I love the V but when it is time to go to the track, I take the GN...

And it looks 10 times better then a Ferd.. :)

what was the point of this?? two people bragging about fords on a cadillac forum?? why?? not saying your lying, but without a video, i don't think anyone cares. and if you put as much money into aftermarket parts for the v, it would be much better than the equivelant sho, and if not, at least you'd be able to pick up 3 ladies and take them to a 5 star restaurant without looking out of place :D :coolgleam

Hey guys!
You won't believe what happened last night. I blew away a V!
He was close and hung with me for a while, but I edged him out at top end.
Must be my TonyA system on my CTS...

Hold on. I got a video too that I will post soon.

Nevermind.......

The video is done (and has been for a while) I have two versions, a high res (26MB) and a low res (6MB). I just can not get anyone to host it. I apologize for not having it up already, but I have no hosting capabilities, and my usual helpers have not responded to my e-mails and messages. Sorry. If anyone can host let me know. I can not send through e-mail, but I can upload the vid directly. Heck, I would even send a CD of it in the mail to someone if that is what it takes. I really want to get it hosted, it is a pretty nice vid.

alright look thebigjimslow, i think you need to learn to take a joke. because i was only JOKING (hence the ':D'). all i was saying was, why post that?? you're bragging about an sho on a cadillac forum. if i remember correctly, looking at the sho forum, they weren't exactly bowing down to the caddy either. why come to a caddy forum to talk about how you smoked a v but you have no proof?? if that happened, good job to your friend, he did great work on his car and should be happy. but don't brag about it here.

I bought a new '86 GN in the fall of '85. Poorest build quality I have ever seen. This was about the zenith of GM's quality problems.

Nevertheless, a fun car to drive, particularly in 1986. Off the showroom floor it was a high 14 second car and no match for today's great rides. A GN running in the 11's is highly modified.

Not to hyjack this thread...especially since this is not about GN's....BUT...

Sorry VFOUR, but you are dating yourself, and you are working with dated information...

I have an 87 running 11.9 in an UNOPENED motor. IE - Stock Heads, Block, Pistons, etc. There are several others in the Philadelphia / NJ area running better than me with identical set ups (they are better tuners)...Back in the late 80's early 90's they did not know then, what they know today about these cars... Simple bolt on's today with less than $ 2.5k outlay, and you are in the high 11's.

I do have modifications BUT the engine, and rear are all original..The changes I have are all bolt on's. Intercooler, Turbo, Injectors, fuel pump, Methanol injection system, etc

Back in 1986 the GN was a mid/high 13 second car, that is documented in several trade magazines, so either you did not know how to drive or you had engine problems as well as quality problems.

I won't argue the overall quality of the product (paint, etc,). I agree it was bad even by GM standards back then, but remember what this thread is about. And I stand by my original statement. The GN will smoke most cars and certainly any Ford Taurus with similar $$$ mods...It also looks a whole lot better than any Ferd I ever seen... :thumbsup:

so you don't consider bolting on an intercooler, turbo, injectors, fuel pump, methanol injection and more, to be highly modified??

not trying to start an arguement, but adding all of that should drop your times a couple seconds, so it seems like you're both right.

Man - I even typed it in BOLD so you guys would get it this time.

'UNOPENED' is the term I use to describe my drivetrain. Another sentence worth noting is

'I do have modifications BUT the engine, and rear are all original'

My only point :
Not many (if any) 6 cylinder cars using 17 year old technology (ECM) that weigh 3,800 pounds (with me in it :yup: ) run in the mid 11's without opening up the engine and rear..

i'm not arguing any of that and i'm not saying you were trying to mislead. i'm just saying that vfour said it would take a highly modified engine to run 11s, and your rebutle was saying your engine was proof you don't need a highly modified engine to run 11s, but IMO, your engine is.

I guess it gets down to symantics.

The motor heads I grew up with (and I restored/ raced a 1965 Buick Gran Sport with a big block Nail Head Engine, so I am no kid), consider it a big difference when you compare cars that have unopened engine, trans, rear - to ones that have rebuilt motors with different pistons, roller cams, headwork, different gears in the rear and modified transmissions, etc...

I would bet a Ford Taurus (I believe these were front wheel drive no less) would need MAJOR engine and trans work to hit similar #'s. But I will also admit to not knowing much, if anything about the SHO.

All I know is, I have every original part I ever took off the GN in my attic (hence the referrance to bolt-on's) and can return the GN back to 100% stock in 1-2 days, right in my garage.

Whatever - It is all good !!! :thumbsup:

I guess it gets down to symantics.



You said "The changes I have are all bolt on's.". That is probably what he was referring to, as for many, bolt ons do not count as much more than an air filter.


I would bet a Ford Taurus (I believe these were front wheel drive no less) would need MAJOR engine and trans work to hit similar #'s. But I will also admit to not knowing much, if anything about the SHO.

You will NEVER get a SHO to run your kind of numbers at a drag strip, they are not strip cars (high HP, heavy FWD manual cars, not good for stellar 60'). ALso, since they come NA, you will never be able to approach the ease of modability of a factory FI vehicle. But you can take a COMPLETELY unopened SHO (stock rods and crank are forged and are very strong) and 'bolt-on' a SC or turbo and see over 350whp at failry low boost levels (10psi). I know of a few guys pushing 445whp on stock blocks (they had head/cam work though) @ 15+psi.

As for me, I have forged pistons (lowered CR from 9.8:1 to 9:1) and EH intake with enlarged butterflies (maybe good for 20whp). Stock head/cam, stock exhaust manifolds, transaxle with Quaife added, otherwise stock. I put 430whp to the ground and 412ft lbs (@ 12psi). It all goes up in smoke at the line (with street tires), but on the highway there are not many machines that embarass me (I ran 115 mph traps with 383whp/359ft lbs).

Certainly not as easy as a GN, but still cool nonetheless.

Nothing like a sleeper !!
:yup:

:bump:

Bumpz yo. Just to annoy Jim.

:pir8:

-Chris

:bump:

Bumpz yo. Just to annoy Jim.

:pir8:

-ChrisOh boy.....:alchi:

I just had a wonderful idea.

Turbo 3.2 SHO motor (can you turbo the 3.2 or is it just the 3.0L?) in an 88-94 Continental! You'd have Lincoln luxury, sleeper looks and massive amounts of power.

I don't know much about the SHO's, but damnit I love the first and second gens! Before I bought my '92, I looked at a '94 ATX SHO....it was very nice, but I didn't get to run it hard and I was pretty much dead set on a Caddy anyways.

Tims' Sho is slow as they come and ugly to boot.

Sincerely, The Red Bastard

Hows it going Tim?

Seriously? You all are talking about how cool a Taurus is? Wow...I guess I'm missing something.
Please tell me this thread is a joke.

SHO was a big achivement for Ford.
Despite the fact they had to outsource the engine.
During that era the SHO did not have to be all that cool to still be cooler than anything Cadillac had.

I'll throw a guy some props for turboing a SHO to the point of making it faster than a V. :thumbsup:
That is not an easy engine to mod compared to our LS6's.

All you guys with stock V's, get modding.

Jim, I would have expected you to have enough mods to handle a SHO, if you are going to hang in that circle. :tisk:
Oh well, at least you still have a warranty. :bigroll:

wow your talking about a ford and a cadillac. Im speechless they arent even anywhere near the same class. The sho was fords top of the line, cadillacs top of the line would be IMO the STS-V now throw twin turbos, nitrous, port & polish, headers, exhaust, intake, and every other goody out there then we'll see what it's about. take the 235hp stock 1997 sho and put it up against a 300hp stock 1997 sts and i guarantee the results would be the same as the other setup i put above. Oh yeah and the only thing in fords class would be a chevy or a chrysler. If you wanna talk luxury speed we'd have to talk Cadillac Vs. Lincoln or i'll even go as low as Buick Vs. Mercury.

wow your talking about a ford and a cadillac. Im speechless they arent even anywhere near the same class. The sho was fords top of the line, cadillacs top of the line would be IMO the STS-V now throw twin turbos, nitrous, port & polish, headers, exhaust, intake, and every other goody out there then we'll see what it's about. take the 235hp stock 1997 sho and put it up against a 300hp stock 1997 sts and i guarantee the results would be the same as the other setup i put above. Oh yeah and the only thing in fords class would be a chevy or a chrysler. If you wanna talk luxury speed we'd have to talk Cadillac Vs. Lincoln or i'll even go as low as Buick Vs. Mercury.Hey goofball. It was 2 friends racing their pride and joy. While I have the fast, comfortable, warrantied Cadillac, he has the faster, somewhat comfortable, way way out of warranty EARLY 90s SHO. A 1997 is looked down upon by the V6 purists. Ford indeed dumbed down the Gen III SHO. What's your point? The point to this thread was simply a video of us.

Why don't we race a Cimarron to my V? Would that satisfy you?

SHO was a big achivement for Ford.
Despite the fact they had to outsource the engine.
During that era the SHO did not have to be all that cool to still be cooler than anything Cadillac had.

I'll throw a guy some props for turboing a SHO to the point of making it faster than a V. :thumbsup:
That is not an easy engine to mod compared to our LS6's.

All you guys with stock V's, get modding.

Jim, I would have expected you to have enough mods to handle a SHO, if you are going to hang in that circle. :tisk:
Oh well, at least you still have a warranty. :bigroll:Um, my V was 3 months old at the time. And I was running around 4700lbs loaded.

Seriously? You all are talking about how cool a Taurus is? Wow...I guess I'm missing something.
Please tell me this thread is a joke.You sound like a Bimmer or Mercedes owner asking if we're serious asking how cool a Caddy is. No, this thread is no joke.

The V and SHO are very similar in a lot of ways. I suggest you tone down your shock. There are a LOT of current and former SHO owners driving Vs...

I don't understand all of the arguing here. Some friends had a race. Someone won, someone lost. Nobody withheld information regarding weight or conditions. No problems here, move on.

You sound like a Bimmer or Mercedes owner asking if we're serious asking how cool a Caddy is. No, this thread is no joke.

The V and SHO are very similar in a lot of ways. I suggest you tone down your shock. There are a LOT of current and former SHO owners driving Vs...

I agree with you 100%. The SHO was and is a great car that was ahead of its time. There wasnt much on the street that could run with an SHO 5 speed in the late 80's early 90's. The 3rd gen was a joke though. I would love to have a 1st gen. I really dislike Ford products too.

Um, my V was 3 months old at the time. And I was running around 4700lbs loaded.
Rematch, Rematch, Rematch.....

I definetly respect that guys SHO as I am a fan of anything with a turbo (especially a one-off aftermarket conversion).
:highfive:
But please can someones V take him down?
An all-motor win would restore order to the universe.
I would love to se a new vid with a H/C LS6/2 taking out that turbo.

This has to be one of the dumbest threads i've ever seen on here.

This has to be one of the dumbest threads i've ever seen on here.
Good thing it was moved then, huh?

Good thing it was moved then, huh?They should have moved it into oblivion also known as deleting the thread

I dont see whats so bad about it. You need to smile more.

I dont see whats so bad about it. You need to smile more.I'm one of the happiest guys you would know. But reading this thread was a waste of 10 minutes of my life that I will never get back.

I suppose. The promise of and then lack of video pissed me off.

I suppose. The promise of and then lack of video pissed me off.I've known turboSHO for awhile now. He's on a couple other forums I am on as well. The guy is 110% legit. Everything I have ever asked of him he has delivered and has never given me the run around. He said he had the video in multiple qualities but he didn't have a host for it because of it's size.

BTW here's a link to the video
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/SHO+CTS-V/0/bdce5075-516c-4619-bdf8-c8021e1cd78c.htm

Holy shits! I was considering an SHO 5 speed as a second car, but my Dad told me to stay away and stick with the '95-'96 Maxima 5 speed.

Nice SHO :thumbsup:
But pleaze, paint that hood and trunk before posting any images on here again. :tisk:

Who volunteers their V to take down the SHO?

Between the two, I'd take the SHO. :hide:

Between the two, I'd take the SHO. :hide:


I kind of agree with that. I mean i would LOVE to have a V, though they dont get me "wet".

That SHO is just insane,and the perfect sleeper.

Edit: I'd take the V. The Pus*y Factor is just too high with a V. No broad is gonna want to ride around in a heavily modded 1990 SHO. Well at least not any normal girl...

I agree with you 100%. The SHO was and is a great car that was ahead of its time. There wasnt much on the street that could run with an SHO 5 speed in the late 80's early 90's. The 3rd gen was a joke though. I would love to have a 1st gen. I really dislike Ford products too.

Correct me If I'm wrong, but I thought the SHO only came with a 5 speed in 95' with limited production....everything else was an auto. :confused:

Correct me If I'm wrong, but I thought the SHO only came with a 5 speed in 95' with limited production....everything else was an auto. :confused:

The SHO was introduced in '89...until I believe 1993, it was only the 5 speed manual, then in 93 they introduced the auto with it, and by the time it was redesigned in '97 it was only automatic.

I kind of agree with that. I mean i would LOVE to have a V, though they dont get me "wet".

That SHO is just insane,and the perfect sleeper.

Edit: I'd take the V. The Pus*y Factor is just too high with a V. No broad is gonna want to ride around in a heavily modded 1990 SHO. Well at least not any normal girl...

The V is great and all, but the SHO is cool to me because it was "just a Taurus"...it just started off as your typical family sedan, nothin' glamorous, but after they got done with it, it was the most performance oriented american sedan at the time, just like the V is now. Plus, I'm a sucker for hi-po DOHC engines in sedate looking sedans (why I like the Maxima too)

The SHO was introduced in '89...until I believe 1993, it was only the 5 speed manual, then in 93 they introduced the auto with it, and by the time it was redesigned in '97 it was only automatic.



The V is great and all, but the SHO is cool to me because it was "just a Taurus"...it just started off as your typical family sedan, nothin' glamorous, but after they got done with it, it was the most performance oriented american sedan at the time, just like the V is now. Plus, I'm a sucker for hi-po DOHC engines in sedate looking sedans (why I like the Maxima too)The only thing I can correct you on is the Gen III started in '96. Yes, auto only from there to '99.

And I have to say, while the thrust of the V is awesome, that Yamaha revved like no other. Every time I drove that car, I had to hit redline.

Jim, since you're the resident SHO guy, correct me if I'm wrong but the V8 SHO was never as fast as the V-6 ones, especially from a stop, but they were almost as quick on the highway.

Jim, since you're the resident SHO guy, correct me if I'm wrong but the V8 SHO was never as fast as the V-6 ones, especially from a stop, but they were almost as quick on the highway.True. The V6 gets the jump off the line but on the highway, it's pretty even.

Holy shits! I was considering an SHO 5 speed as a second car, but my Dad told me to stay away and stick with the '95-'96 Maxima 5 speed.

this is funny, I was just asking Jim in another thread if he was a sho guy, and out of the past, here is this thread. Funny.

I almost bought an early 90's SHO (91 or 92? dont remember now) back in 1996. I went with a new 97 Maxima instead. I loved that Maxima, never should have gotten rid of it. But to this day, I am sad I never had opportunity to own an SHO. Even if it was a Yamaha engine, that was still a cutting edge American car. Short of a Vette, Trans-Am, Mustang, Porsche or Ferrari (all muscle-cars and exotics you notice) there was nothing that could out-run it.

I remember GM tried to compete with the Z34, and Chrysler with the Plymouth Duster, both were total jokes that fell apart while you were trying to drive them.

this is funny, I was just asking Jim in another thread if he was a sho guy, and out of the past, here is this thread. Funny.

I almost bought an early 90's SHO (91 or 92? dont remember now) back in 1996. I went with a new 97 Maxima instead. I loved that Maxima, never should have gotten rid of it. But to this day, I am sad I never had opportunity to own an SHO. Even if it was a Yamaha engine, that was still a cutting edge American car. Short of a Vette, Trans-Am, Mustang, Porsche or Ferrari (all muscle-cars and exotics you notice) there was nothing that could out-run it.

I remember GM tried to compete with the Z34, and Chrysler with the Plymouth Duster, both were total jokes that fell apart while you were trying to drive them.Dodge had the Dodge Spirit R/T which was another hell of a sleeper

Dodge had the Dodge Spirit R/T which was another hell of a sleeper


Car and Driver got a 5.8 0-60 stock. And that was 1991.

Dodge had the Dodge Spirit R/T which was another hell of a sleeper

I think that was the mechanical twin of the Duster.

Car and Driver got a 5.8 0-60 stock. And that was 1991.

I think that was right before it blew a head gasket.

Car and Driver got a 5.8 0-60 stock. And that was 1991.I remember when that mag came out. But the SHO blew the other 2 away for refinement. And the Spirit couldn't turn.

I remember the Dodge Colt (of the 80's that used to beat Vettes) but I can't believe the Dodge Spirit was ever considered fast.

You guys made me go look it up as I never knew about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Spirit#R.2FT
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0f/Spirit_RT_Front34.jpg/170px-
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b2/Spirit_RT_Engine.jpg/140px-

What a piece, but I have to give Dodge points for trying, just like they still are with Chargers, Neons & Jeeps.
I do like that it beat the SHO.

I still think the ultimate sleepers of the late 80's and early 90's were the 89 turbo TA with the GN 3.8 in it, and the 91 Syclone then Typhoons.

I remember when that mag came out. But the SHO blew the other 2 away for refinement. And the Spirit couldn't turn.

Yeah i remember it too. I was 4 years old then, but i read it years later. My dad has almost every Car and Driver since they were Sports Car Illustrated, which was the mid-late 60's. I know just about every 0-60 and and top speed of any car from the 80's and 90's off the top of my head. All i did when i was little was read car magazines.

Yeah i remember it too. I was 4 years old then, but i read it years later. My dad has almost every Car and Driver since they were Sports Car Illustrated, which was the mid-late 60's. I know just about every 0-60 and and top speed of any car from the 80's and 90's off the top of my head. All i did when i was little was read car magazines.I can relate. I've tailored my long pooping cycles based on reading Car&Driver. I've been reading for as long as I can remember. 1980 or so...

I can relate. I've tailored my long pooping cycles based on reading Car&Driver. I've been reading for as long as I can remember. 1980 or so...

I have about the last 6 months on the top of my toilet...

I have about the last 6 months on the top of my toilet...I have probably 12-18 months still in my bathroom. And I still have the 2003 mag with the preview of the CTS-V being tested in Germany. When they said projected price of about $50G, I started making plans and saving my $$$. C&D was a BIG reason I bought my V.

Rematch, Rematch, Rematch.....

I definetly respect that guys SHO as I am a fan of anything with a turbo (especially a one-off aftermarket conversion).
:highfive:
But please can someones V take him down?
An all-motor win would restore order to the universe.
I would love to se a new vid with a H/C LS6/2 taking out that turbo.

I would so love to race another V. Jim was at the SHO Convention last year, and we were both at the drags, but we were not able to line up. But my car has seen some significant upgrades since then, so it would not be a fair match. Although, I think Jim was within a few tenths on the E.T., just a big difference in trap speeds. But yeah, find a local (tulsa, OK) H/C V for me to race, I can make another video, win or lose.

Nice SHO :thumbsup:
But pleaze, paint that hood and trunk before posting any images on here again. :tisk:

Who volunteers their V to take down the SHO?

okay, okay, here are updated pics for ya:

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL85/474603/1228941/283982427.jpg
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL85/474603/1228941/286950903.jpg
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL85/474603/1228941/276446747.jpg

I would so love to race another V. Jim was at the SHO Convention last year, and we were both at the drags, but we were not able to line up. But my car has seen some significant upgrades since then, so it would not be a fair match. Although, I think Jim was within a few tenths on the E.T., just a big difference in trap speeds. But yeah, find a local (tulsa, OK) H/C V for me to race, I can make another video, win or lose.



okay, okay, here are updated pics for ya:

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL85/474603/1228941/283982427.jpg
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL85/474603/1228941/286950903.jpg
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL85/474603/1228941/276446747.jpg

Very Cool SHO :cool2:
I bet it would be faster if it were Black.

Since it's not, there has to be a H/C V out that way that can challenge it. :stirpot:

there is a wire hanging down from your dash

there is a wire hanging down from your dash

Had just installed the wideband, it was not hardwitred yet, just piggied into the fuse panel.

I would so love to race another V. Jim was at the SHO Convention last year, and we were both at the drags, but we were not able to line up. But my car has seen some significant upgrades since then, so it would not be a fair match. Although, I think Jim was within a few tenths on the E.T., just a big difference in trap speeds. But yeah, find a local (tulsa, OK) H/C V for me to race, I can make another video, win or lose.


Yeah, we were both around a 13.7 but I had a trap of 103 and Tim was around 114 or so. However, I got the urge to go as I watched others race. I went out there and made it a point NOT to induce wheelspin. I was 800 miles from home...

I ended up with a 13.4 or 5 @ 116.7. But the car is running SOOO much better now...