: 1969-1970 Hearse (prolly 472)



occupant
08-25-04, 05:39 PM
This has been sitting for several years, has been fired up but not moved around much in the last two, in fact I think when she started it yesterday it was the first time in 2 years and it started in less than 15 seconds.

I'm headed over there tonight with my old trusty Sears engine analyzer (rpm, dwell, etc), my toolbox, and a set of plugs and a gas filter.

If I live through this and need any more help, I'll be back.

Thank you for the sticky on tune-up specs, I copied down all of them just in case the motor's not original. Most likely is the original 472, but we'll see about that in about an hour. Also thank you for the firing order post halfway down the page, I would have assumed GM's typical 1-8-7-2-6-5-4-3 and might have caused a problem!

And what *IS* up with that funky firing order?

Dead Sled
08-25-04, 05:54 PM
sounds like a good find.

barge master
08-25-04, 08:54 PM
I have wanted a hearse since I was a little kid. In Texas it's probably not too rusty huh? Put up a pic if you get it.

Dead Sled, how 'bout a shot or two of yours?

wurstarme
08-25-04, 09:52 PM
It's always been a dream of mine to find a Cadillac Hearse from the late 60s or early 70s. My friends think I'm crazy, and I think they lack a sense of style. :coolgleam It sounds like a great project; good luck with it!

davesdeville
08-25-04, 09:57 PM
There is some aftermarket to change a BBCs firing order to the same as the Caddy's, so there must be something good about it..

lux hauler
08-25-04, 10:31 PM
Hearses ARE cool!! Definitely post pics if you can.
One day, I WILL have a 'side-loader'.
I like the idea of a tubbed '65-'70 hearse with a healthy, stroked 500 on spray. :burn: :cool:

Sasquatch
08-26-04, 06:27 AM
Here's a picture of mine. This car is alot of fun. I'll post some pics of the motor later it looks pretty cool to. Email me and I can send you the full size pic. I had to reduce this one in order to upload it and it's kinda hard to see the coffin sticking out the side. psychosasquatch@cfl.rr.com :drinker

barge master
08-28-04, 04:55 AM
Go Sasquatch !!! That's what I'm talkin' about. The body looks good too. Old hearses that aren't rusted to death are as rare as hens teeth around here. Ever consider some cool wheels and tires on that??

Dead Sled
09-01-04, 11:00 PM
[shameless plug] well my 1976 MM 3-way is for sale, 104K miles, surface rust only[shameless plug}

well I'll dig out my camera and take some poseur shots :D just for you guys

Sasquatch
09-19-04, 03:01 PM
Trying to keep it as stock looking as possible. This is the 3 way loader that has the electric table that turns and comes out either side. I contacted Superior coach who built this car for Cadillac in 1969 and they told me that there were only 116 of them made that year. I was able to contact the original owner. He is now retired from the funeral business (86 years old) but said he purchased it brand new in 69 for $14,000. He said he had it in service until the mid 80's and hauled about 350 people a year. 350 people times 16 years equals 5,600 people approx. Pretty cool. The back tag reads COMNG 4U. I live in Florida and have been having fun dealing with 3 hurricanes this year so it took me a while to get back here. I promised a pic of the motor and here it is. :coolgleam

barge master
09-19-04, 07:01 PM
Very, very nice hearse my man. Is that an aftermarket A/C unit? It sure can't be no snowplow pump.

Sasquatch
09-20-04, 07:00 AM
Thanks barge. No that's not an AC. It's a hydraulic pump for the LEV-L-MATIC system that came stock with car. There is a control located on the floorboard in between the driver and the passenger. You can turn the knob either to the left or the right and there is an activation button on the dash board near the instrument cluster. When you push the button the pump engages and causes the car to the raise either to the left or right depending upon what setting you chose. This was for loading and unloading the caskets on unlevel ground. You could level the car so you wouldn't be fighting against gravity. The thing is they did use the second slot on the pulley normally reserved for the AC compressor to drive this pump. Therefor the car has no AC. It originally is from Washington State so they probably did not need AC to much. I would like to find a smaller electric pump to drive this LEV-L-MATIC system and eliminate the belt driven unit so that I can add the AC. Any suggestions? I have already upgraded the entire cooling system to what was stock in the 472 Fleetwood with AC so I'm good there. I have a GM issued service manual for all 1969 Cadillacs (found on ebay) that I use. That's how I knew what to do to upgrade the cooling system. If you look in the picture of the engine you can see the new 4 row radiator. I've included a picture of the LEV-L-MATIC controller. The things you see on either side are, on the left an FM converter (ebay) because the stock radio was AM only and on the right is a multi plug outlet wired directly into the fuse box for cell phone charger, radar detector ect. Both are mounted to the LEV-L-MATIC with sticky back velcro.

barge master
09-20-04, 08:50 PM
Yeah, I'm realizing there's no condenser or evaporator. That's a cool feature if they were burying one of the gangstas they could give him the hydraulics one last time. LOL. On small dump trucks they use what amounts to glorified starter motor to drive the pumps. I also had a snow plow pump once that was a self contained unit with a small pump and a starter type motor also. Maybe a place that does truck bodies esp. dumps could steer you in the right direction.