: Something "Wagon" this way comes....maybe...



hueterm
04-21-10, 02:50 PM
'Roo, get ready to be jealous.....

If the deal goes through........................................... .... :sneaky:

Stingroo
04-21-10, 03:13 PM
PICS! INFO!

SOMETHING!

GASFGEHRGUHVIBI THIS TEASER THREAD IS NOT APPROVED. :sbox:

hueterm
04-21-10, 03:25 PM
DCM
LT-1
under 70K miles

orconn
04-21-10, 03:40 PM
I hope Beretta will approve, sounds like a great solution to his transportation needs!

hueterm
04-21-10, 03:59 PM
He'd better.... (Assuming it happens....)

Stingroo
04-21-10, 05:21 PM
I. Dislike. You.

I want a DCM wagon. :(((((

Pics pics pics picsssssssss!

And Orconn: he will approve. Moose does:

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs467.ash1/25640_1381437942616_1431987960_1068829_7531094_n.j pg

77CDV
04-21-10, 05:41 PM
I'd hate to see Moose when he disapproves!

hueterm
04-21-10, 05:43 PM
Pics will be a while......if it happens.

Some cosmetic work and some mechanical work is needed, so I wouldn't post any until that's done. But Beretta needs his space, and we've got a lot of driving to do -- so that would happen sooner than later, if I get it.

Stingroo
04-21-10, 06:12 PM
I'd hate to see Moose when he disapproves!

lol Nah, he wouldn't hurt a fly... unless it landed in his food.

96Fleetwood
04-21-10, 07:25 PM
Congrats!:thumbsup:

I~LUV~Caddys8792
04-21-10, 08:00 PM
http://blog.niot.net/blog-images/15_jun/man-gets-bored-builds-family-truckster.jpg

YES

hueterm
04-21-10, 08:07 PM
HELLAno!

I~LUV~Caddys8792
04-21-10, 08:08 PM
http://www.jeff-young-design.com/WorldWideWagons/Images/1976-Buick-Estate-Wagon.jpg

Man, that's really wild for a wagon, look at the way the side windows curve around in the back.

hueterm
04-21-10, 08:15 PM
I LOVE THOSE!

Do those wheels work on a Roadmaster?? That would be SICK if they did. I love those.

Didn't one of those wagons have the rear door window that actually retracted up into the roof?

I~LUV~Caddys8792
04-21-10, 08:19 PM
The tail lights vaguely remind me of a late '70s Continental. And yes, the Buick 5 spoke rallye wheel was unbeatable.

Stingroo
04-21-10, 08:29 PM
Those rally wheels WILL work on a RM/caprice, and there IS a guy on the wagon forum currently selling a set.

Just sayin'. :thumbsup:

hueterm
04-21-10, 08:32 PM
What is the link? I'd hit that HARD! (Unless they were trashed...)

96Fleetwood
04-21-10, 08:49 PM
I LOVE THOSE!

Do those wheels work on a Roadmaster?? That would be SICK if they did. I love those.

Didn't one of those wagons have the rear door window that actually retracted up into the roof?

Yes, those wheels work, just double check that they are 5X5 (5X127) for the Bbody... they did make that style in the G/F body pattern.


.. and so do my favorites.. the 'Turbines:'

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e360/1967bigdaddy/HPIM3312.jpg



... and the 'Clam Shell' Taligate of the 70s GM wagons was awesome!


Welcome to LT1 power!

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a399/nomrlz/wagon/wagon041809.jpg

hueterm
04-21-10, 08:52 PM
What are they, 14"? 15"?

96Fleetwood
04-21-10, 08:53 PM
What are they, 14"? 15"?

Some are 15x7 some are 15x6 depending if they came on the Sedan or Wagon.

Stingroo
04-21-10, 10:08 PM
This is a 15x7 set (same as factory size)

Here's the link:

And register to the forum! :D

http://gmlongroof.4umer.com/wheel-tire-section-f20/buick-rally-wheels-and-tires-t1133.htm#10301

77CDV
04-21-10, 10:18 PM
I LOVE THOSE!

Do those wheels work on a Roadmaster?? That would be SICK if they did. I love those.

Didn't one of those wagons have the rear door window that actually retracted up into the roof?

All GM top-line full sized wagons from 1971-1976 had the clamshell rear tailgate/rear glass. A friend of mine just got a 1973 Olds Custom Cruiser and it's way cool!:thumbsup:

hueterm
04-21-10, 10:30 PM
This is a 15x7 set (same as factory size)

Here's the link:

And register to the forum! :D

http://gmlongroof.4umer.com/wheel-tire-section-f20/buick-rally-wheels-and-tires-t1133.htm#10301


I just joined and PM'ed that guy re: the wheels (hopefully Elias gets my PM and confirms that the wagons took 15x7s.....) :-)

If he can send me pics of all four, and they all look good -- I am on those like Lindsay Lohan in a prison rec yard..... (OOPS her lawyers are watching :-)

Hey Chad -- it will likely necessitate a tie in w/the Mpls meet :-)

hueterm
04-21-10, 10:31 PM
Elias -- those turbines would be a BIOTCH to clean.................

I~LUV~Caddys8792
04-21-10, 10:31 PM
Sounds awesome. Those Turbine wheels look really dated on the '91+ B body wagons. They're a good looking wheel, but it's a very '80s look.

Aron9000
04-21-10, 11:27 PM
Sounds awesome. Those Turbine wheels look really dated on the '91+ B body wagons. They're a good looking wheel, but it's a very '80s look.

I was about to say those turbine wheels would look bitchin on a box caprice with red outline bowties on the center caps.

I swear one of the next cars I get will be a Roadmaster wagon.

Stingroo
04-21-10, 11:52 PM
SWEEEEEET!

All your drivers are belong to wagons.

96Fleetwood
04-22-10, 07:51 AM
I just joined and PM'ed that guy re: the wheels (hopefully Elias gets my PM and confirms that the wagons took 15x7s.....) :-)

If he can send me pics of all four, and they all look good -- I am on those like Lindsay Lohan in a prison rec yard..... (OOPS her lawyers are watching :-)

Hey Chad -- it will likely necessitate a tie in w/the Mpls meet :-)

PM replied!

hueterm
04-22-10, 01:23 PM
Well, the deal is done -- my spy is picking it up on Saturday!

And the best part is -- $2300!

Yes 'Roo -- pics to follow...

Stingroo
04-22-10, 01:46 PM
PICS PICS PICS PICS!

WTF Good price dude! I paid $1900 for mine, and I thought IIII got a good deal. lol

Damn way to go.

77CDV
04-22-10, 02:55 PM
Wagons, HO! :D

I~LUV~Caddys8792
04-22-10, 09:10 PM
Well, the deal is done -- my spy is picking it up on Saturday!

And the best part is -- $2300!

Yes 'Roo -- pics to follow...

Jeez, sounds like you stole that thing! Who sold it to you, Helen Keller??

Stingroo
04-22-10, 09:22 PM
Bwahahahaha Chad... so wrong, but so good.

96Fleetwood
04-22-10, 09:27 PM
http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/cto/1705180918.html

That Caprice wagon has the Buick Rally wheels on it...

hueterm
04-22-10, 09:31 PM
Well, the hood is scratched pretty bad right down the center, and will need to be repainted. (I've already made arrangements for that w/my body shop here.) There is also a dent in the front bumper.

AND...

It's going to need what will likely be a transmission rebuild.

So, I'll probably have $4-4.5K in it by the time I'm done. But at 65K miles, those go for way more on eBay, etc. -- and that will include the trans rebuild! The trans on my '93 sedan went out, which was why I got rid of it (I should have fixed it...) and I paid $5500 for that one w/69K miles and NO LT-1!

The interior is supposedly mint, however (my spy is as anal as I am), and it does drive well, it just won't consistently go over 30 miles/hour :-)

hueterm
04-22-10, 09:32 PM
Love those Rallys.....they will look sharp on a RM Woody. Now I just have to get up to Minneapolis........

Stingroo
04-22-10, 10:40 PM
:postpics:

That is all.

hueterm
04-22-10, 10:55 PM
Most of the ones I have are detail. All of the missing trim is in the cargo area. The seat pic is just to show the condition of the leather.

http://i943.photobucket.com/albums/ad279/hueterm/95%20Roadmaster%20--%20Initial%20Pics/rmseat.jpg

http://i943.photobucket.com/albums/ad279/hueterm/95%20Roadmaster%20--%20Initial%20Pics/rmside.jpg

Stingroo
04-22-10, 11:54 PM
That trim is easy to get though. :)

And that's pretty decent leather.

hueterm
04-23-10, 12:00 AM
The trim that isn't on the car is inside the car. It always fell off of my sedan too, until I had my body shop pull it all off, strip off the tape and all the residue from the trim and the car -- and re-adhere it w/something crazy strong. It never budged after that. I'll have them do the same w/this one when they paint the hood.

From what my spy says, it will take about 3 weeks to detail......it's filthy outside and dusty inside......

Stingroo
04-23-10, 12:04 AM
But low mileage, and worthwhile.

Who is this spy you speak of? I want a spy. :(

hueterm
04-23-10, 08:51 AM
A friend of mine who scoped it out for me, and dealt w/the buyer. If the trans can hold out, I'll fly up and drive it home....slowly....

hueterm
04-23-10, 05:09 PM
Now it looks like I'm just going to get it fixed there. I've gotten quotes between $1000 - 1500 for a full trans rebuild on one of these -- sound reasonable?

I~LUV~Caddys8792
04-23-10, 05:42 PM
Funny, I saw a '93 RML sedan yesterday, in DCM, with that same molding missing. Those wheels look nice, I wish my Roadmaster had those (I had the base wheel covers), and like I've said before, from 95-96, the base Roadmasters had more comfortable seats than the Limiteds did. The only advantage the Limited has is the heated seats, power lumbar and power recline.

hueterm
04-23-10, 06:13 PM
Yeah, I'm glad mine is a base -- I really don't want the lumbar and the recline for just something else to break. The base seats couldn't be anymore comfortable.

orconn
04-23-10, 06:19 PM
I like the wheels the RMW has on it, although I'd ditch the whitewalls. The leather certainly looks redeamable with a little TLC fro our friends at Leatherique! Sounds like, at the price you paid, you've got plenty of room to remedial work on the trans and body work. If I were in need of wagon capacity I think I'd definiyely look at these GM wagons .... let's face driving a '95 Seville STS and loving it would amke the Buick Roadmaster or OLds Scenic Cruiser (?) wagons right up my alley!

96Fleetwood
04-23-10, 06:24 PM
Now it looks like I'm just going to get it fixed there. I've gotten quotes between $1000 - 1500 for a full trans rebuild on one of these -- sound reasonable?

I paid $1800 for my Finish Line Transmission (FLT) Stage II transmission... you might as well upgrade if you are at it.. then you can race or tow!

hueterm
04-23-10, 07:41 PM
I paid $1800 for my Finish Line Transmission (FLT) Stage II transmission... you might as well upgrade if you are at it.. then you can race or tow!


What is the difference in this, now? I'm not really looking to race, or tow anything heavy enough to worry about -- I have an EXT...

Stingroo
04-23-10, 07:58 PM
Well, you can tow stock, but yeah. You might as well upgrade for the price, especially since you totally stole the wagon. :thumbsup:

hueterm
04-23-10, 07:58 PM
I like the wheels the RMW has on it, although I'd ditch the whitewalls. The leather certainly looks redeamable with a little TLC fro our friends at Leatherique! Sounds like, at the price you paid, you've got plenty of room to remedial work on the trans and body work. If I were in need of wagon capacity I think I'd definiyely look at these GM wagons .... let's face driving a '95 Seville STS and loving it would amke the Buick Roadmaster or OLds Scenic Cruiser (?) wagons right up my alley!


Oh man, I think the whitewalls have to go on a RM, whether it has the spokes or the alloys. (Unless it's a wood-delete and has an Impala SS/or "GS" type of treatment, obviously.) However, if I can arrange it, I'm going to get those Rally wheels that 'Roo posted the link to. Those would look AMAZING on a RM... I'll use those for summer wheels/tires and use the stock alloys for winter tires.

It will need a detail, just to get the dust up from the interior, and I've got to get the engine cleaned -- will a good detail shop do a good job on that? Or am I asking for an electrical nightmare??? The seats, dash, carpets, and door panels are supposedly all in excellent condition. The very left edge of the dash pad has a little bit of fading, due to where it sat in the sun. Also, the steering wheel's dye has worn off in places, but I'll just get a burgundy leather wheel cover. That is apparently pretty much it. My friend is anal to the point of being a freak...I trust his judgement.

My trans rebuild is $1050, and the hood repaint (which I'll have done here at my normal body shop) is $300. They will also strip off all the side trim, and get it reapplied to where it will stick. My Roadmaster sedan was HORRIBLE about the loose trim, until they stripped everything down, and re-adhered. I think they charged me a couple hundred to do that -- TOTALLY worth it.

The paint is supposedly fine otherwise, and so is the woody tape There's no body or door sill type of rust. There is scale underneath, but it's a Northern car -- so not much I can do about that... My spy said it wasn't any worse than his '03 ESV or his '98 750il...

My spy said the speakers all sounded fine (nothing blown) -- so I'll just put the Alpine head unit that was in my RM sedan, back in this one. Now that Beretta rides in the car, I don't blast the stereo anymore anyway...

If I like this thing like I think I will, I may seriously consider getting a second one -- and then go down to one Cadillac car (instead of the two...maybe...a 2003 STS....??)...

hueterm
04-23-10, 08:02 PM
Well, you can tow stock, but yeah. You might as well upgrade for the price, especially since you totally stole the wagon. :thumbsup:


But if the stock trans rebuild is $1000 and this other one is $1800, that $800 will pretty much pay for my cosmetic work....

I just wouldn't ever tow anything larger than one of those small U-Haul trailers -- I don't know how to drive a big trailer around.

And yes, tomorrow afternoon, I should officially be able to say that I STOLE it.... The old lady will probably get pissed at her son who's selling it for her and tell us both to go F ourselves.....so I'm not completely counting my chickens until it is final/final...

Stingroo
04-23-10, 08:20 PM
Well, then don't bother. These cars are good to tow 5k from the factory. That's more than enough for a 6x10 U-Haul trailer.

$800 saved.

96Fleetwood
04-23-10, 08:47 PM
http://www.cpt4l60-e.com/products.html

hueterm
04-24-10, 08:10 PM
It's done -- and sitting at the transmission shop, ready for them to start the work, as soon as it's licensed and registered! Probably on Wednesday. I'll pick it up on Mother's Day weekend.

To 'Roo and Elias -- on those Rallys... The guy in MPLS has a set of the 15x7 5x5s -- which is supposed to be the right size for the car. I'm waiting on pics of all four, but for now, I'm assuming I get them, unless someone buys them out from under me, or they're in bad shape.

I ran the database on the wagon, and it shows the size at 225 75 15 -- sorry if one of you corrected me on that earlier...will that size fit on the Rallys, or does it need to be the 235?

My concern is, that I'm kind of a tire Nazi -- and while the ones on the car now have good tread, the sidewalls may have some rot -- the car has sat a LONG time. If I get the 225 75 15 stock size whitewalls up in Chicago while they do the trans, can I then switch them to the Rallys? I really don't want two sets of "Summer" tires -- I really want to put winter tires on the stock wheels later on....

THX for your advice...

Stingroo
04-24-10, 09:51 PM
My wagon has 225/75/15's, it's the stock size. The wagon also has 15x7 wheels stock. You can go as wide as 9.5 inch wheels with no rubbing (someone on the wagon forum has 18x9.5's on his RMW, but he can barely fit two fingers between the rim and the rear fender. Close cutting)

You can go to 235mm tires on the 15x7 wheels. My FWB had 235/70s, and the FWB limo cars came with 235/75. Any of those sizes will fit on the 7 inch wheel. I'm pretty sure up to 245 will fit on a 7 inch wheel.

96Fleetwood
04-24-10, 10:01 PM
225/75/15 is probably your best bet. They are cheap and easy to find white walls in that size. 235/70/15 is a little wider and taller, but they are hard to find nowadays. 235/75/15 is a skinny tall tire which gives too much sidewall IMO.

Stingroo
04-24-10, 10:16 PM
235/70/15 is REALLY hard to find in whitewalls anymore.

Browse the RWD forum and check out "The Official Whitewall Thread". There are only like 3 tires that come in that size in WW. lol

Personally though, if you get the rallye wheels, I'd go for some white letter tires. :)

hueterm
04-24-10, 10:24 PM
Awesome -- if the 225 75 15 will fit both the Rallys and the stocks, that's what I'll get.

I'll worry about the winter tires later :-)

THX guys!

And 'Roo -- I'm a traditionalist...I want to make mine look like that '70s Estate on page 1 ;-)

Stingroo
04-24-10, 10:28 PM
Needs white letters! :(

The whitewalls work really well too, (see the thread about the Riviera in RWD forum too :D)

hueterm
04-24-10, 10:33 PM
If it were a wood-delete that I were turning into a "GS" (i.e. Impala lookalike), then maybe. But I think a woody needs the whitewalls. I don't even really like blackwalls on a woody -- they're just easier to find, and you see them all the time.

I'll ck that thread you mentioned...

Stingroo
04-24-10, 10:36 PM
Nah... white letters don't go on SS clones. Gotta keep those black wall.

It's a '72 Riviera too... you will love it. :)

hueterm
04-30-10, 06:38 PM
WOO HOOOOO! The only thing mechanically that needs to be done to the wagon (other than the trans, which I already knew about) is tires (which I expected) and the serpentine belt!

The 'stealing' of my Roady Woody is now complete! :sunnynana:

Stingroo
04-30-10, 08:41 PM
Hooray!

We must have wagony rendezvous. Or something.

billc83
04-30-10, 09:21 PM
Man, when did I sign up to the Wagon Forums? :D

hueterm
04-30-10, 09:31 PM
At the same time you signed up for the "Gun toting, Jeep mudding, Pickup truck lusting forums", I guess... :gungrin:

Stingroo
04-30-10, 09:37 PM
When you realized that everyone needs a wagon in their life.