: J.d. Powers dependability study for 2010 nameplate ranking



Sandy
03-21-10, 02:52 PM
]1. Porsche 110
2. Lincoln 114
3. Buick 115
4. Lexus 115
5. Mercury 121
6. Toyota 128
7. honda 122
8. Ford 141
9. Mercedes-benz 142
10. Acura 143
11. Hyundai 148
12. Cadillac 150
13. Infiniti 150
14. Subaru 155
15. Saab 158
16. Saturn 164
17. Bmw 165
18. Gmc 165
19. Chrysler 166
20. Kia 167
21. Volvo 167
22. Hummer 169
23. Chevrolet 176
24. Nissan 180
25. Audi 182
26. Dodge 190
27.pontiac 192
28. Mazda 195
29. Scion 201
30. Mitsubishi 202
31. Mini 203
32. Jeep 222
33.volkswagon 225
34. Suzuki 253
35. Land rover 255
Isuzu was not rated as the sample size was too small, as not enough vehicles were available to rate.[/B]

V-Eight
03-21-10, 03:07 PM
LOL at Lexus and Toyota being on there.....

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-21-10, 03:07 PM
Woop wooop! Top 3 for Buick!

orconn
03-21-10, 04:06 PM
Buick has had a very good showing for many years now.

ben.gators
03-21-10, 07:01 PM
Yeah, Buick Rocks, I can argue that Buick is the best American car maker! By the best I do not mean the highest performance or power.
By best I mean it has the best collection of reliability, performance, luxury, comfort, marketing, and price.

My next car will be again a GM made car, and I have a feeling that if I don't buy a cadi again, it would be a second generation Buick Lacrosse, or a new Buick Regal!

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-21-10, 07:22 PM
I really want to be back in a Cadillac, but Buick is a good number two.

orconn
03-21-10, 08:59 PM
It is a shame that Buick doesn't do very well, quality wise, when it comes to their interiors. I would have held on to '97 Regal if it hadn't been for the constantly breaking cupholders and the poor finish on the interior. I really liked its' performance and size and comfort, but just couldn't tolerate the build quality of the interior. Hence two Sevilles STS's followed it! But I'm very glad to see Buick stack up so well in the current marketplace.

ben.gators
03-21-10, 09:06 PM
It is a shame that Buick doesn't do very well, quality wise, when it comes to their interiors. I would have held on to '97 Regal if it hadn't been for the constantly breaking cupholders and the poor finish on the interior. I really liked its' performance and size and comfort, but just couldn't tolerate the build quality of the interior. Hence two Sevilles STS's followed it! But I'm very glad to see Buick stack up so well in the current marketplace.

I owned a Regal 2000, and my cup holder was broken too. It seems that it was a bad design. The other common problem was auto dim mirrors. All the cars have some design flaws, and I used to live with those problems. But I am not sure about "poor finish on the interior". I was totally satisfied and happy by interior of my car by comparing it with other cars in the same class and year. Definitely the quality of leather seats, door panels, and plastic around steering wheel in Regal is lower than STS. But not bad for itself.

ben.gators
03-21-10, 09:15 PM
I really want to be back in a Cadillac, but Buick is a good number two.

Yeah, Cadillac is always a Cadillac! and I do love to buy a brand new V series one day.
Meanwhile, the main advantage of Buick is that with the same money that you can buy a new base model of CTS, you can buy a new full option AWD Buick Lacrosee, and still some money remains in your pocket. Take a look to this Lacrosse in Ebay, which has a tag of 33K on it:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Loaded-Black-Metallic-MSRP-34960-Plus-No-Doc-Fees_W0QQitemZ380206820093QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Ca rs_Trucks?hash=item588617aafd

I nether have drive this car, nor CTS base. But I have a feeling that it this Lacrosse is a better car than a base CTS. Even Lacrosse looks like to be a more luxurious car than a base CTS.

orconn
03-21-10, 09:23 PM
GM knew the design of the cupholder was bad from their experience with the '97 Regals, but rather than correcting a faulty design (particularly one as irritating as the Regal's cupholder) they decided the buyer could live with it. I had a problem with the headlight buckets on my '76 Seville (which needed to be replaced every two to three years (to the tune of $250. per side) because they fatigued and allowed the headlights to tillt forward making them unsafe and unusable. These same plastic headlight buckets were used on all Cadillac models from at least 1976 to into the '80s. As a result of this experience I didn't buy another American car until 1997 and then only leased one so I could get rid of it after two years. This type of "nickel and diming" led to the American car makers loss of market share, particularly in the luxury car market.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-21-10, 10:03 PM
What happened with your cupholders? Mine work just fine, and I rather like their design. They can fit almost any size cup or mug I own, and aside from getting in the way between the armrest & shifter, they work just fine for me.

ben.gators
03-21-10, 10:47 PM
What happened with your cupholders? Mine work just fine, and I rather like their design. They can fit almost any size cup or mug I own, and aside from getting in the way between the armrest & shifter, they work just fine for me.

You are one of those very few Regal owners that are lucky enough not to experience broken cupholder in your Regal. This is a very very common syndrome in Regals, manufactured from 1997-2004, indeed all forth generation Regals. Even if you replace the broken cupholder with a brand new one, it will break again! This is a design flaw!

Here is a photo from mine. Sorry, the focus is not on broken cup holder, but this is the only photo that I have from broken cupholder:
http://i39.tinypic.com/4lhz40.jpg

The car is a Buick Regal LS 2000.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-21-10, 10:49 PM
How did they break?

ben.gators
03-21-10, 10:51 PM
GM knew the design of the cupholder was bad from their experience with the '97 Regals, but rather than correcting a faulty design (particularly one as irritating as the Regal's cupholder) they decided the buyer could live with it. I had a problem with the headlight buckets on my '76 Seville (which needed to be replaced every two to three years (to the tune of $250. per side) because they fatigued and allowed the headlights to tillt forward making them unsafe and unusable. These same plastic headlight buckets were used on all Cadillac models from at least 1976 to into the '80s. As a result of this experience I didn't buy another American car until 1997 and then only leased one so I could get rid of it after two years. This type of "nickel and diming" led to the American car makers loss of market share, particularly in the luxury car market.

Yes, you are right. it is some sort of irresponsibility for GM that they didn't correct a pretty known design flaw, and continue producing the car with the same problem until the car production discontinued!

ben.gators
03-21-10, 10:58 PM
How did they break?

There are couple of springs, holding cupholder and the cover over it in place. These springs and their connections to the frame break! A bad design!

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-21-10, 11:33 PM
So the cupholder just breaks off the center console?

ben.gators
03-22-10, 06:39 AM
So the cupholder just breaks off the center console?

Yes, and even sometimes the cover over it, which is a part of console breaks too, as was my case too.

Sandy
03-23-10, 01:44 PM
I am on my 3rd consecutive Lincoln. To date, I have yet to have "Problem Number One". 1986 Mark 7, 1998 Mark 8 and presently a 2003 Town Car Springtime "Feature Car" THE LIMITED. The two prior, are still with their 2nd owners. From time-to-time I spot them in the shopping center and have stopped them to talk. The 1986 is in Phila., Pa. now and looks brand new. He has only 51,000 on it and reports no problems. The 1998 is fine too, the other owner reports. The headlights blow about ever 3 years (1st year for HIDs), and are costly, but otherwise no problems. My 2003 T.C. has yet to have a problem - but as of today, only has 10,008 miles on her. She is stored in heated "Car-Condo" that I rent a space in - for her. I can see why Lincoln is # 2 !! I share wife's 2001 Jeep XJ Cherokee Limited 4X4. At 9 years "young" she has 52,000 miles, and she has several problems, totalling around $6,000 outta pocket, but my wife loves it. Air Cond. went south $2,500 - Stablilzer bar cracked $640.00 with new bushings, Power Steering pump left the show, 1 Power Window joined him in leaving town and a heater core or something went out.
We bought all of them new.
Of course the 1993 60 Special in my show car ONLY, with 10,000 miles on her, 90% highway. 100% original, incl. tires.
Anyone in Jersey, I will be with the Caddy at the Royal Cadillac dealership in Florham Park , N.J. Mid-June for the annual Caddy Show.
Terrific show, Car-B-Que, music, Awards, and anout 100 + unbelievable Caddies, many trailered there.
If you can attend....DO IT !!!!!!