: SPRING BREAK!!!! [In Detroit... with pics.]



Jesda
03-09-10, 01:25 AM
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Stopped at Wendy’s to enjoy a fish sandwich. Its a piece of fish with bread.

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24mpg!

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Gas station food. Red Bull Cola has a nice spice.

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The vanity plate on this Chevy Venture says “MAGGOT”

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Gary, Indiana. The most run-down gas pump I've ever seen. I probably pumped ten gallons of sludge into my Seville.

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I thought I'd seen the last of this.

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Fancy rest area has a lighthouse.

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Bland gas station food.

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Mariott in Southfield MI. I had a family discount authorization form that my cousin gave me but the Mariott representative on the phone tried to charge me $100 for it. I asked her to tell me which Mariott location was in the safest neighborhood but she revealed that she was at a call center. At that point, I determined that she was useless and hung up. Five minutes of bidding on Priceline got me the room for $40.

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Even the artwork in the room is car related.

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Awful, terrible Detroit roads. I'm in the median because there's fewer ruts and holes.

Jesda
03-09-10, 01:25 AM
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I didn't have time for the Henry Ford museum, but enjoyed the F150 factory tour. The whole operation was VERY clean, smooth, and well-organized. Photos in the factory were not permitted but the tour was self-guided, allowing you to move around the factory at your own pace. Most importantly, they were working on a Saturday which seems to indicate strong demand for Ford trucks.

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New Raptor

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Classic Ford display

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Bought a scale model of Reagan's Presidential Limousine and an F-150.

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F150 chassis

The elaborate theater presentation involved a 7-screen 360-degree film that used wind, heat, vibration, and water to simulate manufacturing activities. On the upper level was an observation deck. The rooftops at the Rouge plant have gardens that collect and filter water used for plumbing and irrigation. It was surprisingly honest, displaying the violence inflicted on employees by management during unionization attempts.

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Bridge to Windsor, Ontario

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Truck full of brand new Fords

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Approaching downtown Detroit

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A tube. I think the internet is in there.

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A dog show was taking place at Cobo Hall

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Downtown

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Elevated train

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Some symbolic circular thing

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Accidentally headed toward the tunnel to Canada and quickly turned around.

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GM Renaissance Center

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The Ren Cen was impressive outside, but unfortunate inside. Despite being what should have been a busy Saturday afternoon for shopping, most of the stores inside were closed. GM also decided to close and fence off their "GM World" vehicle display. Its not like I can't go to a Buick dealer to see a Lucerne. There was an atmosphere of sadness all over.

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The only place open was the liquor store where I purchased a GM mug.

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"Son, I am disappoint"

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Classy.

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Went to Lafeyette's for a coney dog. It was as good as it looked on the travel channel with lightning fast service, spanish onions, and spicy chili for $2.40.

Jesda
03-09-10, 01:26 AM
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The bald guy back there is the owner, seen on "Man Vs Food".
Outside, a guy asked me for change. During his shpeel I interrupted and said "Take care of yourself!" and walked away. He replied, "Yeah okay man whatever".

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Did my own Woodward Dream Cruise out to the suburbs, a one-man parade. While much of Detroit was run-down with the poorer areas quite vast, it wasn't desolate and spooky at night like North or East St Louis. There were people out and about and several busy shops.

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Downtown, overall, was attractive though mysteriously uncongested.

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Ate at Xochimilco, located in a shady-looking neighborhood called Mexicantown. I parked in a well-lit area. There were several Mexican restaurants and lots of people.

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As I left the restaurant, another homeless guy asked me for money so he could "get me a decent meal." I offered him my chimichanga in a styrofoam container which I had not yet touched. He quickly declined it and said he already had food. He started to make up another excuse to have my money but I spoke over him, said "God bless", and got the hell out of there.

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Tim Horton's is one of those Canadian chains, and the coffee and doughnuts were excellent.

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The next day, I headed to Auburn Hills to visit the Walter P Chrysler museum. There was no security apparent.

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ITS A TRAP! I got stuck in the parking garage at the Chrysler center. It allowed me to enter but did not allow me to leave. The exit signs kept leading me to a gate that was closed. I finally exited through the entrance, driving over a stop sign and chain, going the wrong way through the driveway, and getting the hell out as fast as I could.

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Finally found the museum, a beautiful structure.

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The artwork in front is supposed to symbolize progress. It looks more like a chewed up tire that went flat at a high speed -- symbolism indeed.

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Walter Chrysler got started working on trains.

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His first job in the auto industry was for Buick, but he got into a fight with Mr Durant of General Motors and left. To learn about automobiles, he bought a car and disassembled and reassembled it several times.

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The displays frequently mentioned cab forward design, even in this display dated 1934. "Cab forward" is something Chrysler hasn't advertised in a decade. This "stuck in the 90s" theme repeats itself throughout entire museum.

Below are various museum exhibits:
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http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6441.jpg
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6442.jpg -- Interesting way to wash a car.
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6443.jpg -- Manned stoplight.
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http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6456.jpg -- Jeep
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http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6465.jpg -- Aircraft engine, 2500hp
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http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6466.jpg -- Tank engine
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http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6476.jpg -- Packard spark plug wires
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http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6480.jpg -- Dodge Power Wagon
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http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6483.jpg -- Suspension comparison
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6484.jpg -- Hemi V8
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6485.jpg -- Autolite starter


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Tire technology display

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http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6487.jpg -- Town and Country convertible
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Not sure what the thing in the middle is for. Ventilation? Heat?

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http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6494.jpg -- New Yorker convertible

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Lebaron convertible looks much like the Cord 810

Jesda
03-09-10, 01:26 AM
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The bald guy back there is the owner, seen on "Man Vs Food".
Outside, a guy asked me for change. During his shpeel I interrupted and said "Take care of yourself!" and walked away. He replied, "Yeah okay man whatever".

http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6411.jpg
Did my own Woodward Dream Cruise out to the suburbs, a one-man parade. While much of Detroit was run-down with the poorer areas quite vast, it wasn't desolate and spooky at night like North or East St Louis. There were people out and about and several busy shops.

http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6412.jpg
Downtown, overall, was attractive though mysteriously uncongested.

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Ate at Xochimilco, located in a shady-looking neighborhood called Mexicantown. I parked in a well-lit area. There were several Mexican restaurants and lots of people.

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As I left the restaurant, another homeless guy asked me for money so he could "get me a decent meal." I offered him my chimichanga in a styrofoam container which I had not yet touched. He quickly declined it and said he already had food. He started to make up another excuse to have my money but I spoke over him, said "God bless", and got the hell out of there.

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Tim Horton's is one of those Canadian chains, and the coffee and doughnuts were excellent.

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The next day, I headed to Auburn Hills to visit the Walter P Chrysler museum. There was no security apparent.

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ITS A TRAP! I got stuck in the parking garage at the Chrysler center. It allowed me to enter but did not allow me to leave. The exit signs kept leading me to a gate that was closed. I finally exited through the entrance, driving over a stop sign and chain, going the wrong way through the driveway, and getting the hell out as fast as I could.

http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6431.jpg
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Finally found the museum, a beautiful structure.

http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6433.jpg
The artwork in front is supposed to symbolize progress. It looks more like a chewed up tire that went flat at a high speed -- symbolism indeed.

http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6434.jpg
Walter Chrysler got started working on trains.

http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6435.jpg
His first job in the auto industry was for Buick, but he got into a fight with Mr Durant of General Motors and left. To learn about automobiles, he bought a car and disassembled and reassembled it several times.

http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6437.jpg
The displays frequently mentioned cab forward design, even in this display dated 1934. "Cab forward" is something Chrysler hasn't advertised in a decade. This "stuck in the 90s" theme repeats itself throughout entire museum.

Below are various museum exhibits:
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6438.jpg
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6439.jpg
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6440.jpg
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6441.jpg
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6442.jpg -- Interesting way to wash a car.
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6443.jpg -- Manned stoplight.
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http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6456.jpg -- Jeep
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http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6465.jpg -- Aircraft engine, 2500hp
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http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6466.jpg -- Tank engine
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http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6475.jpg
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6476.jpg -- Packard spark plug wires
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6479.jpg
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6480.jpg -- Dodge Power Wagon
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6481.jpg
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6482.jpg
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6483.jpg -- Suspension comparison
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6484.jpg -- Hemi V8
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6485.jpg -- Autolite starter


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http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6471.jpg
Tire technology display

http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6488.jpg -- Power vs manual steering

http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6487.jpg -- Town and Country convertible
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http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6489.jpg
Not sure what the thing in the middle is for. Ventilation? Heat?

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http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6494.jpg -- New Yorker convertible

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http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6497.jpg
Lebaron convertible looks much like the Cord 810

Jesda
03-09-10, 01:27 AM
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6496.jpg
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6498.jpg

http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6499.jpg -- Chrysler Atlantic concept car
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6500.jpg
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6501.jpg

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http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6508.jpg
Chrysler Special by Ghia

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http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6510.jpg
An homage to Nash/Hudson, Willys-Overland/Kaiser, AMC, and Jeep.

http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6511.jpg
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6512.jpg -- Powerflite transmission
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http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6515.jpg

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http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6526.jpg
They didn't show any of the cab-forward LH cars they kept talking about, yet they had three K-cars on display (plus the K-based minivan).

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http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6529.jpg
The closest they did have to an LH sedan was this wiring harness from a 300M, compared to a 1951 Newport wire harness.

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http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6553.jpg
They had a couple classic "Letter Cars" and Imperials.

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http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6540.jpg

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http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6536.jpg
I have nothing good to say about this Cordoba, equipped with gaudy silver upholstery.

http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6537.jpg -- Turbine car
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Early 1970s gas pump

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http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6549.jpg
Lee Iacocca-era memorabilia

http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6555.jpg
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6556.jpg -- A miniature of the monument outside.
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6557.jpg -- Someone showed up!

http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6558.jpg
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6559.jpg -- Minivan

http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6560.jpg
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6561.jpg

http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6562.jpg -- Timeline
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6563.jpg
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6565.jpg
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6566.jpg -- The microprocessor controlled AM/FM radio, the same one they seemed to use for 20 years.
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6567.jpg
Notice how the list of innovations ends here at 1992.

http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6564.jpg -- Truck concept
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6568.jpg
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6569.jpg
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6570.jpg

http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6571.jpg -- Sketches of the Atlantic

Walked down the stairs to the basement...

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http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6588.jpg
The HIGHLIGHT of my visit to Auburn Hills, the ME-412! I bought a poster. V12, four turbos. It also appears to have a Nakamichi head unit.

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http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6644.jpg
Tomahawk V10 motorcycle. There was no security and almost no other guests, so of course I touched it.

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The vending area was designed to look like a dealership. On display was the movie that was supposed to play upstairs in the non-functioning theater.

http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6585.jpg
A local Detroit drink.

Jesda
03-09-10, 01:27 AM
duplicate

Jesda
03-09-10, 01:28 AM
Various basement exhibits:
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http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6591.jpg
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http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6592.jpg
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6594.jpg
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6595.jpg
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6596.jpg
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6597.jpg
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http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6599.jpg
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6600.jpg
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6601.jpg
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6602.jpg
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6603.jpg

http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6605.jpg
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6604.jpg
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6608.jpg
A "game" that lets you design a car and print it out. It criticizes you for exceeding costs or being too dramatic with your design. To "win" the game and get your team's approval, you have to churn out something bland that looks like a Dodge Intrepid. It certainly explains how the Sebring happened. This is the worst idea for an exhibit, ever.

http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6609.jpg -- Hemi zamboni
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6610.jpg -- Hemi bbq grill

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http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6611.jpg -- Chrysler airflow. A beautiful design that sold poorly. I bought a die cast model.

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http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6615.jpg
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6616.jpg

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http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6623.jpg
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6624.jpg -- Exposed screws
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6625.jpg -- Steering wheel out of the parts bin
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6628.jpg -- 20" rear wheels
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6629.jpg -- Popped the hood. The 3.5L V6 barely fits
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They had a Prowler you could get into and play with. The interior was nasty, far worse than I remembered. The rest of the car seemed well made. I'd have one.

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AMC AMX

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Actual testing facility control panel from the 1950s

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The museum is overall poorly maintained. There's a box out front asking for donations (entry was $8 per person) and the staff are mostly volunteers. This seemed strange for a company-owned facility.
Most of the displays, like the one above, were so dim they were unreadable. Cars suffered from cracking paint. The elevator wasn't working nor were some of the interactive exhibits. The movie theater was down, probably because the projector was broken, so they ran the video on a TV in the basement.
The gift shop was playing music on a CD recorded in 1999 (Backstreet Boys, Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, NSync) on a boombox that came from 1999. The volunteer woman working in the shop was very... umm... strange. The whole place was quite barren and like the rest of the Chrysler complex, seemed depressing and sad.

http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/userpics/10001/normal_100_6645.jpg
Ann Arbor

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Road food.

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Home.


Detroit was nowhere near as bad as I've heard. Of course, I was there as a tourist, not a resident. I didn't have to find a job, start a business, or deal with the poorly run school system.
The bad neighborhoods were suffering and widespread, but it was hardly a ghost town. There were still plenty of people and shops everywhere, unlike North and East St Louis which can be frighteningly empty at night.
Thanks to the small crowds from lacking tourism, I'll definitely be going back.
I missed out on anything music related. The Motown Museum supposedly has all of the original recording equipment used by Diana Ross, Smokey Robinson, etc on display as well as Berry Gordy's apartment upstairs.
I got the impression that Ford was more revered in Detroit than GM or Chrysler, with the Ford name plastered on streets, bridges, and buildings. The Ford plants and museums were packed, so much that parking was scarce.
I still need to visit the Henry Ford Museum, Village Park, Flint (to see the misery described by Michael Moore), Edsel Ford mansion, Hamtramck where my Seville was built, the MGM Grand, and Ontario.


I took some videos and will post them tomorrow after I finish editing.

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
03-09-10, 01:38 AM
Jesda, one of these days we must all road trip with you. I can see it being VERY interesting.

hueterm
03-09-10, 05:05 AM
Yeah, I mean if you can make Detroit sound interesting...

Oh, and BTW, the Ren Cen was sad in '96 when I went there...

Rocket88
03-09-10, 11:47 AM
Great pics.
Made for a heck of an interesting read.

Thanks!

RightTurn
03-09-10, 01:00 PM
Spring break in ... Detroit??? :wtf:


:lol:

The Tony Show
03-09-10, 01:07 PM
Well, looks like it's time for another server upgrade to house the newest Jesda thread. :lol:

Stingroo
03-09-10, 01:24 PM
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d193/roo09511/jesdafrog.png

dkozloski
03-09-10, 01:30 PM
Epic duplicate post; the greatest of all time.

cvettr/cts-v
03-09-10, 01:39 PM
You went to Wendy's and had fish instead of the baconator? I thought you originated that sandwhich.

orconn
03-09-10, 04:16 PM
The Chrysler "idea" cars by the Italian designer and coachbuilder Ghia were, to me, the most beautiful bodies put on American chassis in the 1950s. Chrysler apparently sold off several of these "idea" cars as I saw different ones at cars shows in L.A. in the 1970's. While still being "American" large, they carried off their size with grace and conveyed a sense of power and luxury seldom equalled. Amongst these cars were the several Imperial Dual Cowl Phaeton parade cars still in use in several American cities including L.A. I think the the 1955 and 1956 Imperials best displayed the Ghia design themes in production cars.

As aide note, the Ghia Dodge Fire Arrow show car, which was part of the comissioned Ghia series of cars, was in the hold the luxury liner Andrea Doria when she was hit and sunk by the liner Stockholm off the U.S. East Coast. In a strange bit of fate, a young girl, who was on board the Andrea Doria when the ships collided ended up alive and in the bow wreckage of the Stockholm. Unfortunately her mother and sister who were also asleep in the same stateroom were killed in the collision. The young girl was not seriously injured and later was a classmate of mine in prep school. I believe she is, today., still alive and well.

Jesda
03-09-10, 05:36 PM
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I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-09-10, 08:49 PM
Nice! I think you out-did yourself when it comes to number of pictures posted!

Back in the '90s, we had a Chrysler store at the Mall Of America. Like a showroom, they had a lot of cars on display, but you could also buy all sorts of Chrysler memorabilia and merchandise. It was very cool and nobody else did anything like it.

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
03-09-10, 09:52 PM
When we go up there for the summer meet we have to spend some time at the Mall of America. I've been there once and it was very impressive.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-09-10, 10:03 PM
I go there atleast twice a month.

iametarq
03-09-10, 10:43 PM
My wife can give you a tour of Flint. She's from that area. It's a sad state, and I'm glad you were pleasantly surprised by Detroit. A lot of familiar images in your photos. If you want to see the really run down houses in Detroit, get off of 696 onto 8 Mile Rd. It is extremely depressing, those are the "$1000" homes you can buy in Michigan, and trust me, they aren't worth $1000. Only the dirt is worth money.

Jesda
03-10-10, 01:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGoTGBWFZmE

Video of the Prowler. Crap interior, cool car. [Video may still be "processing"]

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
03-10-10, 05:37 AM
One of my uncles owns a Prowler. And a 2009 SRT8 Challenger. And a 1971 Challenger. :(

tr's-cts
03-10-10, 06:53 PM
Very nice thread. Learned alot. Saw some familiar places that I haven't seen in years. Use to run sand into the Ford Company in River Rouge.