: Kobe Bryant is charged!!!



Infamous Lac
07-18-03, 07:15 PM
Well I don't if you have heard or not but Kobe has been charge with felony sexual assault read up a little here on it http://www.msnbc.com/news/939560.asp if found guilty he can be charge from 4 years to life in prision or probation for 20 years to life. They say penetration is envolved so it basically a rape case. I believe he is innocent, but we will have to wait and see.Me being from the LA area and a Laker fan this is a serious matter, what are you guys feeling to this subject?

kcnewell
07-18-03, 08:09 PM
First....Who cares? It's his problem! If he's guilty he should get the max. If not....I personally think that most of these sports types are tryin' a little to hard to be badasses and then snivel and whine when they get caught that they're special and should be treated differently than you or I would. Let's see what happens.

lux hauler
07-18-03, 08:30 PM
First....Who cares? It's his problem! If he's guilty he should get the max. If not....I personally think that most of these sports types are tryin' a little to hard to be badasses and then snivel and whine when they get caught that they're special and should be treated differently than you or I would. Let's see what happens.

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HotRodSaint
07-18-03, 08:59 PM
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Hmmm...I wonder what you edited out? :shhh:

JerseyGirl
07-18-03, 09:39 PM
Mee tooooooooo!!!!!!!!! I agree..who cares? :rolleyes:

lev
07-18-03, 10:14 PM
My,..... or, rather, Neil Boortz, $0.02ON KOBE BRYANT

Los Angeles Laker basketball player Kobe Bryant has been charged felony sexual assault. This could be the end of his professional basketball career. It will almost certainly mean great monetary damage .. the loss of endorsements, etc.

I will draw on my experiences representing athletes as an attorney to share some thoughts with you. Kobe Bryant is an athlete. This means that he is a target. After virtually every NBA basketball game you will find women hovering around arena exits who are willing to throw themselves into bed with almost any athlete that walks out of that door. Some of these women just want another notch on their garter belt. Some of them are looking for something more; they're looking for money. Lots of money. Their intention is to lie about birth control and have unprotected sex with the hope of getting pregnant. They know that having the child of a wealthy athlete is a guarantee of easy street for at least 18 years. No work, nice house, nice cars .. the works. Sound harsh? Trust me, these women are out there. The large brain of every athlete is aware of this fact. Disaster happens when they let the small head do the thinking for the large head. They've been warned, but the testosterone level is almost as high as that hoop. Go have yourself a good time, then get out your checkbook.

The women who are merely looking for bragging rights of sex with a top athlete present another danger. That danger comes from the possibility of feelings of regret and humiliation, even fear. The danger is prison.

We have a case in Georgia right now where a high school athlete has been sentenced to 15 years in prison for the rape of a classmate. I've studied the case, and I believe him to be innocent. The athlete is black, his victim was a white girl. I believe that somehow the girl's parents found out about an episode of consensual sex between the two, or at least the girl worried that this was about to happen. She was scared to death that her parents were going to find that she had been dating a young black man. Her solution? Claim she was raped. This black kid raped her. She then, in my opinion, stood back and watched this kid go off to 15 years in prison because she didn't want her parents and friends to find out the truth.

Kobe Bryant is accused of rape in Eagle County, Colorado. Eagle County is not exactly a black Mecca. I don't know if it has been stated one way or the other, but I suspect Kobe Bryant's alleged rape victim is white. My gut feeling is that the sex was consensual, regret and fear set in, and she made the allegation of rape. As events proceeded she because frightened ... too frightened to step forward and put a halt to this disaster by telling the truth.

If Kobe Bryant forcibly raped this girl, send him to jail ... for a long time. If he is being put on trial because some young girl regrets a romp in the sack with an athlete and is afraid for her reputation, then the wrong person is going to trail.

In the meantime .. we have a good lesson for other athletes out there, especially the younger ones who are loaded with athletic talent but not too burdened with judgment and common sense. Those women fawning over you can well be dangerous. You would be better off sticking your love commando into a cage full of scorpions.

I think he has a point, whether you care for this case or not.

Blackout
07-18-03, 10:42 PM
You make a good point but to tell the truth, I couldn't care less about professional athletes. I am so disgusted by the entire professional sports scene and what it's done to our society as a whole, I could just SPIT!

kcnewell
07-19-03, 12:06 AM
You make a good point but to tell the truth, I couldn't care less about professional athletes. I am so disgusted by the entire professional sports scene and what it's done to our society as a whole, I could just SPIT!



I couldn't agree more!

elwesso
07-19-03, 12:24 AM
Basketball is about the sport I care about the least!! (dont start flamming me, you can talk sh** about golf all you want)...... So Kobe Bryant is definitely not someone I have concern for...... I do think that he will get some special treatment due to being famous and rich.... Maybe not from the legal system, but some money to the jury and to the defending lawyer sure would go a long way..... Not saying he would do that, but at least he could afford the best lawyer in the country!

kcnewell
07-19-03, 12:31 AM
I've pretty much lost interest in all professional sports anymore. The players are all a bunch of overpaid a$$holes and whiners with no loyalty and few morals. I'll not contribute one dollar to further the problem.

elwesso
07-19-03, 12:48 AM
Some of its fun to watch on TV, but id much rather be watching the tach on the Q......

I will NEVER pay money to go see professional sports, its the biggest waste of money i could think of.......

MMNineInchNails
07-19-03, 01:48 AM
sports are lame.

Infamous Lac
07-19-03, 06:56 AM
sports are lame.Sounds like someone was picked on in High School! I do agree professional athletes are over paid, but that constitutes to sports being lame? :cowboy:

HotRodSaint
07-19-03, 09:06 AM
I think Hemmingway said it best:

"There are two sports, mountain climbing and auto racing. Everything else is grown men playing kids games."

Elvis
07-19-03, 01:13 PM
What KC and Blackout said. Yeah!

I'm sick of entertainers and sports figures being deified and paid the exhorbitant amounts of money they get. They should be taxed triple for being able to make a living "playing" or play-acting like a child. Most of these people never did an honest day's work in their lives, and most never will have to.

On top of that, these people also have a limited education, yet we are supposed to stand up and take notice whenever they feel like letting us in on their political beliefs--as if they're qualified to comment or have an opinion on anything!

I hope all these teams go bankrupt on Kobe Bryants and LeBron Jameses. Honestly, giving $40 million to some high school kid who (in a lot of cases) can't even read is ridiculous.

bs4sho
07-19-03, 02:36 PM
Honestly, giving $40 million to some high school kid who (in a lot of cases) can't even read is ridiculous.



Lebron James made Straight A's his whole high school....but i dont think kobe did it anyways cuzz he can get any girl he wants he's rich why would he rape some 19 year old? have you seen his wife...she looks pretty good

AirJigga25
07-19-03, 04:26 PM
I think Hemmingway said it best:

"There are two sports, mountain climbing and auto racing. Everything else is grown men playing kids games."

gee I never knew hemingway was that stupid.

AirJigga25
07-19-03, 04:28 PM
Lebron James made Straight A's his whole high school....but i dont think kobe did it anyways cuzz he can get any girl he wants he's rich why would he rape some 19 year old? have you seen his wife...she looks pretty good

I'm going to see Lebron pla tomorrow at the Boston Pro summer league...yes!

It seems pretty fishy to me. I think Kobe is guilty of bad judgment, not rape.
But you never know, sometime athletes used to gettting there way push things a little too far and the cookie ends up crubling against them, the woman files charges even though she shouldn't have gotten herself into that situation anyway and she probably led him on.

MMNineInchNails
07-19-03, 04:28 PM
Sounds like someone was picked on in High School! I do agree professional athletes are over paid, but that constitutes to sports being lame? :cowboy:

Um, I'm still in High school, and No I'm not being picked on and never have been.....

AirJigga25
07-19-03, 04:37 PM
What KC and Blackout said. Yeah!

I'm sick of entertainers and sports figures being deified and paid the exhorbitant amounts of money they get. They should be taxed triple for being able to make a living "playing" or play-acting like a child. Most of these people never did an honest day's work in their lives, and most never will have to.

On top of that, these people also have a limited education, yet we are supposed to stand up and take notice whenever they feel like letting us in on their political beliefs--as if they're qualified to comment or have an opinion on anything!

I hope all these teams go bankrupt on Kobe Bryants and LeBron Jameses. Honestly, giving $40 million to some high school kid who (in a lot of cases) can't even read is ridiculous.

these players can all read, give me a break. Some might be dumb (see shawn kemp) but not that dumb. You might be smarter than them but do you have the athletic ability to get people to pay $65 bucks to watch you play? Everyone has their strengths and their weaknesses.

Don't tell me they aren't doing an honest days work. Look at major league baseball players. They play 162 games a year, are always under the microscope, and they get like 8 or 9 days off all summer and fall. Do you think thats hard work? I do.

myself Being a basketball player and having been offered to play in europe...I know that basketball is hard work. It is a job they get paid to do. They are under the microscope and while it is something they love, they take it seriously and they work there asses off on the court and in the weight room. Those players are the best in the world and they deserve to make a lot, but I wouldn't say they're worth millions. See Vin baker of the celtics, 14 million a year for being in alcohol treatment all year.

Have you guys ever run suicides or 17s? Your coach gets pissed at you and he makes you run sprints until you feel like you're going to collapse and die? You guys wouldn't know one bit about that would you.

I think Kobe Bryant is an idiot for getting himself in that situation... I never liked him anyway, he's a baby and should've been smarter than that.

Brett
07-19-03, 07:05 PM
I think Hemmingway said it best:

"There are two sports, mountain climbing and auto racing. Everything else is grown men playing kids games."


I'm pretty sure Hemingway threw bull fighting in there as well.

Mad'lac
07-19-03, 10:15 PM
Well Kobe was always crying about how everyone kept comparing him with MJ (Air Jordan himself) Well now it stops cause I don't ever remember anyone claiming Jordan raped them. Kobe is another baller who thinks that he can sleep with whoever he wants and that the public will always believe him. If found guilty send him to Pelican Bay!!!! If not then stop bugging me with this crap and report the real news. ( that last comment was aimed at the media and not to anyone here)

kcnewell
07-19-03, 10:16 PM
I'm pretty sure Hemingway threw bull fighting in there as well.


We must also remember.....Hemmingway was for the most part a drunken fool! Outside of being a good writer....He was pretty much an a$$hole!

Brett
07-19-03, 11:10 PM
No argument here, just correcting the quote

HotRodSaint
07-19-03, 11:49 PM
I'm pretty sure Hemingway threw bull fighting in there as well.

Sorry, I was going by memory.

"Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports ... all others are games." - Ernest Heminway


"What you are as a person is far more important that what you are as a basketball player." -John Wooden

shaggygrosser
07-21-03, 01:41 PM
It used to be where if a woman cried rape, that the public would almost unanimously side with her. In the past, ummm, 10-15 years, there's been enough wolf-cryers that I'm not so sure anymore.

I'll have to wait for more evidence, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it was another gold-digging skank.

lev
07-22-03, 10:58 PM
this is from boortz.com


Although I know her real name, weíll just refer to her as Kobeís Accuser on the show. Weíre now learning that Eagle, Colorado police were dispatched to the home of Kobeís Accuser two times in the year preceding her alleged rape. The local newspaper is asking the judge to unseal the police reports generated by those incidents.

This brings up a few questions, first of which is just why were those police reports sealed in the first place? As I understand it, there is an employee of the Eagle County, Colorado prosecutorís office with the same last name as that of Kobeís Accuser. Itís a usual name, and only one listing under this name can be found in the county. I it possible that something embarrassing happened at the home of Kobeís Accuser, and a powerful member of the family had police records sealed?

Stay tuned. Iím looking forward to the day when this girl steps forward and admits that the sex was consensual.

HotRodSaint
07-22-03, 11:15 PM
This brings up a few questions, first of which is just why were those police reports sealed in the first place?

Oh, I don't know. Maybe because she was a minor? And minors records are usually sealed?

I'm not saying thats the case. But it certainly was the first thought that crossed my mind. So rather than take sides and smear the reputation of a young girl, why doesn't he wait until some more facts come out.

lux hauler
07-22-03, 11:30 PM
I believe she's 19 years old......?

HotRodSaint
07-22-03, 11:37 PM
I believe she's 19 years old......?

I know that. But depending on when her b-day is and how long ago 'a year ago' actually turns out to be, she could have been 17 at the time.

All I'm saying is lets wait and see.

HotRodSaint
07-23-03, 02:03 PM
Kobe accuser's wounds 'shocking'

By DAN LUZADDER in Eagle, Colo.
and GREG GITTRICH in New York
DAILY NEWS WRITERS

The teenager who says she was raped by Kobe Bryant has "shocking" and still visible injuries from the alleged attack, a friend said yesterday.
"She covers them up with makeup - mostly, I think, to hide them from herself so she is not reminded" of the attack, said Starlene Bray, who has known the teen since grade school.

Three weeks after the 19-year-old woman emerged from the L.A. Lakers star's Colorado hotel room, the injuries are still "very visible," Bray said.

She refused to describe the injuries or say where on the woman's body they were. But she did say they were severe enough to be seen plainly despite the woman's attempts to hide them with makeup.

"They were shocking," said Bray, 19, who first saw her friend on Friday - the day Bryant was charged with one count of felony sexual assault. "I try not to ask her about the injuries, and I didn't even say I saw them the first time. She's very uncomfortable about that, and not comfortable talking about how it happened," Bray said.

Krista Flannigan, spokeswoman for the Eagle County, Colo., district attorney, declined to comment on the woman's injuries.

The woman, a student at the University of Northern Colorado, charges that Bryant raped her June 30 at the Lodge & Spa at Cordillera, near Vail, where she was working for the summer.

Bray said her friend told her the confrontation with Bryant was loud enough to have been heard by other guests on the same floor of the hotel. There have been published reports, unconfirmed by authorities, that guests complained about noise coming from Bryant's room.

The Daily News has learned that Bryant's bodyguards - who accompanied him to Vail for his knee surgery - did not stay on the same floor as the NBA star, which would be a typical security procedure.

"The bodyguards stayed on a separate floor," said Pete Webb, a Denver public relations consultant hired by the spa.

Bryant, 24, has admitted only to the "mistake of adultery" and insists the sex was consensual.

Meanwhile, rape counselors expressed outrage yesterday that a nationally syndicated radio host aired the name of Bryant's accuser.

Tom Leykis, whose Los Angeles-based show is aimed at young men, told Reuters it was unfair to publish Bryant's name and not his accuser's.

"That's like being raped again," said Dr. Patricia Saunders, director of Graham Windham Manhattan Medical Center in New York City. "It's a sadistic thing to do."

Originally published on July 23, 2003

AirJigga25
07-23-03, 02:09 PM
The girl is little white blonde girl, I saw a picture of her that my coworker showed me on the 350z forums. She's not that pretty...

Kobe is an idiotttttt

Mad'lac
07-23-03, 02:12 PM
A white woman? Kobe is soo screwed now! Like I said before....oh well. Now on to real news that affect the poor folks like me.

AirJigga25
07-23-03, 03:07 PM
http://www.webrats.com/kobewatch/

here it is...

There are so many conflicting stories, no one knows who's telling the truth...

also, www.binaryreport.com

MMNineInchNails
07-23-03, 03:23 PM
eh, she's alright.

lux hauler
07-23-03, 10:05 PM
I know that. But depending on when her b-day is and how long ago 'a year ago' actually turns out to be, she could have been 17 at the time.

All I'm saying is lets wait and see.
The "sexual assult" just happened.....less than a month ago.....June 30th I believe....?

Mad'lac
07-23-03, 10:19 PM
He is talking about the previous police reports. If they were written while she was a minor then they stay sealed.

lux hauler
07-23-03, 10:33 PM
He is talking about the previous police reports. If they were written while she was a minor then they stay sealed.
Oh.....Ok.....Sorry.
:banghead2

HotRodSaint
07-23-03, 11:03 PM
There are so many conflicting stories, no one knows who's telling the truth...

I agree with you there. I only posted a 'she said' article in response to Lev's post of what I beleived was irresponsible journalism.

I personally don't care about the lives of the rich and stupid.

Mad'lac
07-23-03, 11:05 PM
I personally don't care about the lives of the rich and stupid.



You and me both brother!

elwesso
07-24-03, 12:18 AM
Add me there too.... I only care about the rich people that like funding me!!!