: Urgent please help... need engine serial number location



gornati
01-19-10, 07:40 AM
Hi all, i have a 1978 coupe deville with a 425 engine.

I need to know where is located the engine numbers (serial number).

I imported this car to Brasil, i posted in other posts the pictures and the novel that has been to bring this car over.

Now to get all documents done i need do get a picture or a decal of the engine serial number, if someone could point it for me, it would be deeply appreciated.

Thanks

Camillo

Stingroo
01-19-10, 08:12 AM
The block casting number is found at the rear of the engine, between the intake manifold and transmission bell housing, right next to the oil pressure sending unit. The casting number is the raised, cast in number on the passenger side.

Responded as quickly as I can. :) Hope you have good luck getting your magnificent car back on the road. :D

Here's a link if you need more information:

http://www.cad500parts.com/catalog/page2.htm

gornati
01-19-10, 08:16 AM
thanks man, really appreciated, will check it right now.

Stingroo
01-19-10, 08:18 AM
Not a problem at all. :) Good luck.

gornati
01-19-10, 08:24 AM
think i will be able to picture it with the engine on the car?

Stingroo
01-19-10, 08:55 AM
Possibly, but it might be a weird angle to get a camera down in there. Can you just write it down or do they demand a photo?

gornati
01-19-10, 09:04 AM
picture or decal..

Stingroo
01-19-10, 09:12 AM
Well, I can almost 99% guarantee that it isn't a decal, it's most likely etched into the block; so you're going to need a picture.

From reading the info again, it looks like the worst case scenario is you're going to have to take the intake off to get a clear shot of it. Look at the link and click the first picture; if you visualize it, that's the very top of the back of the engine block.

gornati
01-19-10, 09:14 AM
when i mean decal is like to put a piece of paper and scratch a crayon over it.
How to name this in english.

Stingroo
01-19-10, 09:16 AM
Oh, I get it. A picture would probably be easier; either way it looks like you're going to need to remove parts, so why add another step?

jayoldschool
01-19-10, 10:28 AM
What Sting is talking about is the casting number, not the serial number. The partial serial number should be stamped on a machined pad on the front of the block, in front of one of the heads. It may be blocked by accessories.

This will show casting numbers:

http://www.teufert.net/identify/identify_image003.jpg

This is what the serial number will look like:

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd259/dan1s/Chevy%20Motor/DSC09740A.jpg

These are general locations. I will check my FSM for the exact location for you tonight.

gornati
01-19-10, 10:45 AM
amazing, looking forward for the info.
Thanks

gornati
01-19-10, 10:46 AM
What Sting is talking about is the casting number, not the serial number. The partial serial number should be stamped on a machined pad on the front of the block, in front of one of the heads. It may be blocked by accessories.

This will show casting numbers:

http://www.teufert.net/identify/identify_image003.jpg

This is what the serial number will look like:

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd259/dan1s/Chevy%20Motor/DSC09740A.jpg

These are general locations. I will check my FSM for the exact location for you tonight.

What is FSM?

jayoldschool
01-19-10, 10:57 AM
Factory Service Manual.

Please, if anyone else knows where the VIN pad is on the big block Caddy engine, post up the location. It is LIKELY in front of the driver's side head (this is where it is on Chevrolet), but I don't know for sure.

Stingroo
01-19-10, 11:56 AM
Oh, see I never knew each engine had a serial number, I assumed he meant casting number.

My bad, no intent to mislead you. :)

gornati
01-19-10, 12:01 PM
Oh, see I never knew each engine had a serial number, I assumed he meant casting number.

My bad, no intent to mislead you. :)
i know you didnt... Thanks anyway

jayoldschool
01-19-10, 11:04 PM
Just looked at every page in the engine section of the FSM. No mention of the VIN location on the engine. I will stick with my prediction that it will be on the block, just in front of the driver's side head. You may have to unbolt accessories and clean that block surface with a scraper.

gornati
01-20-10, 06:59 AM
Just FYI i looked on a haynes manual, looks like it is behind the intake manifold in a small plate.
I will check and let you guys know.

77CDV
01-20-10, 07:43 PM
The 1977 and 1979 FSMs state that the VIN derivative matching the engine to the car is molded into the engine block behind the intake manifold. 1978 should be the same.

Bro-Ham
01-20-10, 08:17 PM
The 1978 Factory Service Manual is just a supplement to the 1977 manual so they should all be the same.

gornati
01-21-10, 09:25 AM
i found this on the internet:
http://www.rebuilt-auto-engines.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_prod.html?p_prodid=116&p_catid=109&sid=1AlF2z2SS2bs0UH-04110152113.9d

i contacted the guy, wich was very nice and prompt replied to me with this:

i asked him where is located the serial number of the engine

v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} In the front above the water pump.


Casey Fulks
S & J Engine Inc.
817 N. Lincoln
Spokane, WA 99201
Toll Free 1-800-942-7800 Ext # 302
Local 1-509-325-4558 Ext# 302
www.rebuilt-auto-engines.com




Now i am confused.

Anyone who have a 425, could please check if it is easy to "see" the engine serial number?

Thanks

csbuckn
01-21-10, 11:04 AM
How many digits is it? I saw two sets of numbers behind the intake in the rear. Nothing on the front.

gornati
01-21-10, 11:06 AM
How many digits is it? I saw two sets of numbers behind the intake in the rear. Nothing on the front.
but you can see them with the engine in the car?

csbuckn
01-21-10, 11:33 AM
No but you should be able to get to it in the car, I believe its gonna be the one on the left. In the back right on the flange that the tranny bolts to, driver side
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77CDV
01-22-10, 10:41 AM
I'm pulling my 77 out of storage for the weekend, so I'll take a look then.