View Full Version : 68 Coupe vs. a 93-96 Fleetwood: Which do I want? 68CoupeDeVille 08-11-04, 01:30 AM Just wanted to see what y'all think...
I have a 68 Coupe (not convertible) that's in good shape. I love driving it and enjoy the looks it draws almost everywhere. But it needs paint and a few other smaller things to be perfect. Rather than deal with the headaches that come with owning/driving an antique car I've been thinking of selling it off and looking for a good deal on a used last-generation Fleetwood instead, or whatever else y'all might suggest in the $5k-$9k range (I don't want to make payments).
My Deville has been very reliable so far. Nothing but the regular expendables have quit working. But I'm getting tired of buring gas faster than I can pour it out of a bucket and having to deal with pre-fuel injection tune ups. The brakes, while they are discs up front with a new master cylinder to boot, still feel inadequate. And the stereo (while a likely wonder compared to stereos in other, more proletariat '68s) sucks.
I love the Deville and it'll be a sweet car one day if I keep it and can ever afford to do it the way I want to. But perhaps something requiring a little less attention might be more appropriate for a 22 year old paying off student loans.
Lemme know what you think... AElayyat 08-11-04, 02:28 AM Just wanted to see what y'all think...
I have a 68 Coupe (not convertible) that's in good shape. I love driving it and enjoy the looks it draws almost everywhere. But it needs paint and a few other smaller things to be perfect. Rather than deal with the headaches that come with owning/driving an antique car I've been thinking of selling it off and looking for a good deal on a used last-generation Fleetwood instead, or whatever else y'all might suggest in the $5k-$9k range (I don't want to make payments).
My Deville has been very reliable so far. Nothing but the regular expendables have quit working. But I'm getting tired of buring gas faster than I can pour it out of a bucket and having to deal with pre-fuel injection tune ups. The brakes, while they are discs up front with a new master cylinder to boot, still feel inadequate. And the stereo (while a likely wonder compared to stereos in other, more proletariat '68s) sucks.
I love the Deville and it'll be a sweet car one day if I keep it and can ever afford to do it the way I want to. But perhaps something requiring a little less attention might be more appropriate for a 22 year old paying off student loans.
Lemme know what you think...
Me personally I would stick with the 68 Coupe deVille. I know its a pain in the ass to keep up a classic car as parts are harder to find, but how many 93-96 Fleetwood Broughams do you see and how many 68 Coupe deVilles do you see around???? BroughamOnChrome 08-11-04, 03:05 AM I was in the same perdicament. I have a 69 fleet brougham and my friend has a 95, and he wants to trade me. Which I always said I would even though I already had a 94 but I just put the 69 in the body shop the day he called me (which was yesterday). My 69 needed a little bit of body work and paint so now i cant wait till it gets out the shop. If you have a 68 coupe I would keep it if I were you. I know they go through gas but all used cars have problems and the older pre '74 is easier/cheaper to fix. Also like ^others said you dont see them everyday. barge master 08-11-04, 07:17 AM Man,that is a profound issue to ponder. I've got a 70 CDV in the back yard, and the only reason I don't drive it is the gas it would use. I guess in the normal thinking world the newer cars make more sense,but sense is so boring sometimes. I don't know your situation,but here is an alternative to consider. Keep the 68 and get a late 80s Caddy for your daily ride. I got my 89 for $500 and put another $500 into it and I was on the road. An older guy had health problems and couldn't drive it anymore,it sat for a year and his wife just wanted it gone. Those cars get about 18 MPG,so they don't cost a fortune to run. You just have to keep your eyes open,those cars can be had for dirt. Special insurance is available for old cars that don't get driven every day,and it isn't much money either. Good luck. hard decision :hmm: . i would keep the 68 but try to find a 93-96. i got a good deal on my 93, 3k. ya just cant beat a classic Caddy though. fix it up and then find you a newer Fleetwood. good luck. if anything else, flip a coin. :D 68CoupeDeVille 08-11-04, 10:29 AM Thanks for y'all's input. I drove the '68 to work today... Like you say, it's a strange predicament, and it's one I've faced since I got the car (about a year ago). When I sit at home or at work and surf the web, looking at all the other potential options I have I think, "You know...? It is really rather big... It burns WAY too much gas... It's a serious hassle when stuff stops working on it... Maybe I should sell it for something newer..." Then I go and drive it, leaning back into the cushy leather driver's seat, feeling it loaf at 80 on the freeway like it was only going 40... and I re-decide to keep it. I guess it's best to just not think about it.
If I do decide to keep it, I'm swapping the points and condensor for a Pertronix Ignitor II and a Flame Thrower II coil. Yay!! No more points!!
I guess I'll fix it up then get whatever's hot from Caddy (a -V series) when I've got more money on down the road. 68, I Am Damn Sorry Now That I Got Rid Of My '79 Coup De Ville. Damn Sorry.
Run The '68 As Long As You Can Because It Will Always Retain Its Value.
In 4-5 Years, When You Are Settled With A Job And Moolah Rolling In, Pick Up A Used '04 Or '05 Cadillac Sts( The New Rwd Replacement For The Seville That Is Coming Out In Sept.)
If Your Ride Is Running As You Say, Keep It! Put A New Stereo In It And Rock On Me Boy!!! DaveSmed 08-11-04, 05:40 PM I hear ya on the gas issues, as well as parts availability. The first thing i did was ditch the points, and I never regret it at all. The Pertronix unit worked out nicely, I put it on without pulling the distributor, and it was right in spec. This as well as other little modernizations have made it better equipped to be a daily. It still drinks gas though, but it's worth keeping for the driving experience. People stop me on the street and ask me about it too. No one stops and asks about a newer car. As far as the size goes, it's big, but its easy to drive, and a manegable design. It's easy to tell where all of the car is. Dspite that, as a joke, when my friend inspects my car, i'm going to pull out the amber bulbs from the front parking lights, and put a red (port) and a green (starboard) one in. Hes a boat guy, so i'm sure he'll get a chuckle out of it. :cool: Out of curiousity, what has your mileage been? and what octane do you use? And do you use any lead additive? 68CoupeDeVille 08-11-04, 07:26 PM I've been getting around 10mpg. Did the Pertronix help boost mileage like they advertise it to do? I don't use a lead additive but I do use premium (93 octane) with an octane booster. It's cheaper than the lead additive. If I burn the valve seals up I'll just have to get 'em fixed or do a head swap.
Dave, you also put an Edelbrock 750cfm on yours, right? I've been thinking of doing the same but planning on tackling the ignition first. What other "modernizations" have you done?
Oh, and (random) how hard does your climate control blow? My a/c blows pretty cold but doesn't move that much air volume. It's a big, hot cab with the black top and black leather interior and the a/c never can seem to catch up on a hot day. And I'm worried about winter... my heater core was disconnected when I got it. I haven't reattached it for fear that it leaks. :(
Maybe someday I'll have the money to turn a '96 Fleet or Buick Roadmaster (shorter wheelbase) into a BMW-eating sleeper in addition to fixing up my '68, but for now I think I'll stick with what I've got. (Besides, the girlfriend loathes the Fleetwoods and adores my '68. She's always begging to drive it.)
Dave, any good threads for swapping info on '68s you recommend? Night Wolf 08-11-04, 11:55 PM I was kinda in a similar situation... but with me it is a 1979 Sedan DeVille, a 1993 Coupe DeVille and a 1989 Oldsmobile Eighty Eight Royale.
it all started with the '93 being my only car, but becuase it was a FL. car, no rust at all, I couldn't bear to drive it in the winter, so I went on a hunt for a winter car... I wanted an 80's GM big body RWD car (Caprice, Delta 88 etc..) but got a good deal on a '89 Eighty Eight (first gen FWD)... I was really glad to see it had a 3800 V6, so that made me feel much better from the start....
...I finally have enough money to put all 3 cars on the road... now that I am not under assigned risk anymore, I am thru State Farm, my insurance premiums are about $150/year cheaper, but I have 3 cars on the road (and a life insurance policy.... multi-line discount, so I actually save $110/year)
I got the '79 mega-cheap...bascially stole it, the previous owner thought the engine was blown, but it wasn't.... for one and a half weeks it was the only car I had on the road... 12mpg.... $50 fill ups, I put 1k miles on it durring that 1.5 weeks... lotta money on gas....
... I would keep the '93 on the road only, but I do gardening work on the side (well, 1 day a week for 1 person) make trips to the junkyard etc... and can't stand getting into that car when I am dirty... it killed me....
Then I looked at my Oldsmobile in a different way.... what was once only my winter car was now going to be my daily driver.... and the nice thing is, it can run on regular (I use mid-grade though... fuel filter is clogged) and gets, for what I am used to, amazing millage (21/34 as of the winter) the outside isn't pretty at all... paint on all horizontal surfaces are fading... but then I decided to spray paint it, but only did it half way, so it looks really bad... plus when I side-swiped the telephone poll (have door and fender from junkyard, gotta repaint it though)... plus various dings and dents.... some rust, mostly on the underbody, in door jambs from sitting 2 years before I bought it (I have most of the rust under conrtol though) but the engine and drivetrain is solid, the interrior is in nice shape, so I can drive it as a car... I don't have to worry abuot it when I go to the mall, door dings and dents only add more charator to it etc....
Basically, maybe you should consider another older car, like my 88, to drive as a daily driver... I have historic car insurance on my '79.... $90/year....whew gotta work over time to pay that... they say I can only drive the car 2 or 3k miles/year (I think 2k) and right now that dosn't bother me, as I have a daily driver, and gas is expensive.... but who is to say the speedometer dosn't happen to "break" or I happen to "find" one at the junk yard? :)
so maybe for you, you can get a daily driver, get historic insurance on the '68, so you can still drive it, but not have to worry.... honestly I will 100% back up the Oldsmobile Eighty Eight's... my generation was from 1985-1990... they are just amazing cars, have a personalyity that is really likable, very cheap to run, and parts are very cheap..... right now my car dosn't look pretty, and some things are starting to break which just don't bother me, but I will get fixed at one point in time or another.... but read reviews on them, they are great cars... plus for me, the local u-pull-it junk yard (they have great prices) has literally about 20 of these cars there.... more then any other, so parts for me is very easy to get at.
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pictures of mine... I have put over 5k miles on it, it did need work when I first got it, becuase it sat for so long.... rear brake lines, radiator, tranny fluid/filter change, tune up etc... I got the car for $500 w/ brand new battery.... has 121,210miles on it now... I am seriouslly going to drive it until it dies.... or I move, or something happens where it isn't practicle to keep it... when I got it on the road Monday and was driving around with my half-assed paint job, I didn't feel right, I was like, people are going to think I drive "this"? then it hit me... I don't care what other people think about me, or what I drive, "this" is a great car, and if I ever do need to look spiffy in a car, I have 2 Cadillac DeVille's for that :D (I do plan on finishing the paint job to make it look better though... maybe tormorrow) DaveSmed 08-12-04, 12:21 AM 10 is about what i'm getting too, but some say I tend to drive with a heavy foot. (Can you blame me? a 472 is a wonderful thing!) The Edelbrock made for a much nicer transition into the secondaries, doesn't leak down overnight, and looks much nicer to boot. The funny part is, out of the box, the carb was VERY close to optimum setting. I still might go one step richer on the secondaries, but it may not be necessary. My Automatic climate control has decided to act retarded as of late. I need a new relay for the blower motor as it will stay on all the time (key out!) until I smack it, or it will flutter. When it works, its OK, but nothing spectacular. (mine is R134a too) Heat is another story, that car turns into an oven. I replaced my heater core, and it is nothing to dread at all. Not like most Fords where you take the whole dash out. You replace it from the engine compartment, by removing the section that has the power servo, fan relay, and master switch mounted on it. Just unplug the power servo, unscrew the master switch, unplug the relay, and take six bolts out. the whole thing comes right out and you swap it outside the car. Much easier than I thought. Heh, turn the '68 into a BMW-eater. THAT will sure turn a few heads... :D As far as good threads for swapping info, what do you need to know? I have the original owners manual, warranty booklet (both in the original protective plastic cover) Factory service manual, and the Body service manual by Fisher. I have limited information on production, prices, and options. (if anyone has any decent info, let me know!) 68CoupeDeVille 08-12-04, 10:38 AM Eh, mostly just looking for any info, you know, to keep me up to date on problems other people are having so I can do preventitive stuff and whatnot. I think it's good to swap as much info as possible with cars like this as I'm no mechanic and didn't grow up working on it.
So, fixing the heater core is that easy? I should do that before winter sets in. I've only had the car in Southern California before, this is my first winter in the Dallas area. It'll get much colder here and I have a feeling I'll wish the heater was working if it doesn't.
I'd love to rod my '68 but probably won't. It's just too heavy. A '90s Fleetwood isn't any lighter but everyone and their mother makes parts for the LT1. SBC performance is cheap to do.
I'll probably just stick to the basics (all eventually): new carb, electronic ignition, dual exhaust, new heads, etc. It was running really rich. A K&N helped with that but it still smells too rich. I'd LOVE to put a good OD transmission on it and swap the rear end for a posi w/lower gearing - make it accelerate quicker through the lower gears and use the OD for better highway mileage.
QUESTION: does your a/c create a serious power drain when you run it? I'm used to losing a little bit of power but this thing just gets weak. It starts to idle low enough that the idle gets rough and the mileage drops to what has to be somewhere in the 7-8 mpg range. Just curious. Night Wolf 08-12-04, 12:54 PM I don't know if it was mentioned already, but I would also switch the ignition to HEI.... much better....
...if you wanted some cheap ways to boost power... you could get the Edelbrock intake manifold, a mild cam, and a free flowing exhaust.... keep the Qudra-Jet... they are good carbs.
heh, about the weight, I first wanted a '75/'76 Fleetwood Coupe to hot rod.... but the fact is... it is very difficult to get a 5,500lbs car to move fast... even with a built up 500cid engine.... then when I got the crazy deal on my '79, perfect shape, still a classic, and already has a big block Cad engine, so it would be easy to do an engine swap (unlike the 80's models) but a full 1,000lbs lighter.... 4,212lbs is a more realistic weight to go hot-rodding in :D
I can't imagine the AC creating that much of a drain... if it was doing what you said, then there must be other problems... only engines I ever saw that the AC would put a strain on were small 4bangers... usually under 2.0L.... and at that, the engine would just have less power then normal... but when you floor it, I believe it automatically turns the AC compressor off.... even in my 15 year old Oldsmobile, the 3800 V6 has no problem running the AC... 68CoupeDeVille 08-12-04, 04:24 PM OK, guess what I found out today?
Took the '68 in to get aligned (this is the sort of thing that makes me want to get a different car :disappoin ) and, of course, they found something else wrong. The center/drag link is worn to the point that an alignment would do me no good. It's worn enough that you can move it around with your hand. And the cheapest replacement they could find was like $400!! So, I'm now on a search to find a new center/drag link that'll fit for as cheap as possible. (So much for a new/rebuild on the carb!) Then I'm off to Houston where my dad and bro live to do the swap and replace the tie rod ends.
GRRR!!! :banghead: If it's not one thing it's another!!!
Anybody know where I can get one of these??? AElayyat 08-12-04, 04:47 PM Try ALL of your local auto part stores, you have nothing to loose. Also ask the dealer if they know who may have it. 68CoupeDeVille 08-12-04, 06:09 PM AAAAH! Nobody's got one locally. Cheapest online is 170!! DaveSmed 08-13-04, 12:00 AM Moog stopped making the dam thing about 3 years ago. (ask me how I know... Could turn the wheel 1/8 turn, and it would have no effect on the front wheels at all) I got mine from a company called Rare Parts (website) (http://www.rareparts.com/) My auto parts store found them. Haven't had a problem since, and it fit perfectly. 68CoupeDeVille 08-13-04, 10:44 AM How much did you pay for it from Rare Parts, Dave (if you dont' mind me asking)? PST is advertising the piece for 175. I was thinking I'd get it from them along with their "Original Performance Front-End" rebuilt kit with all new ball joints, bushings, tie rod ends, upper inners, bumpers, etc. I know my bushings are in pretty bad shape and was thinking it'd be smart just to do it all at once and get it over with. If I can square away the money, PST has a performance sway bar kit to mount a 1" on the rear and replace the front 3/4" unit with a 1" unit. That'd be a nice addition. I can get a discount by ordering mulitple parts and they advertise free shipping so...
Yeah, fill me in. Oh, and are you really only 17?? luddyludwick 08-13-04, 12:34 PM Just to drop in my 2 cents.
I feel the pain of being 22 (although I'm 21) and having to decide. Here's what I'm doing: I drive a Hyundai (don't laugh...it's nice!) daily, but am fixing up the '85 Brougham. I WISH I had something more "classic" like a '68 to fix up, but I don't (I inherited the '85.) In any case, I keep it parked at my g-ma's home about 75 miles away from WVU where I go to school. Any possibility you could get a 93-96 and drive it daily and store the 68 and use it for weekends or something? I'd be worried about using a '68 for a daily driver, not because they are always falling apart or something, but just because I'd be scared of Joe Blow down the street hitting the quarter panel and totaling the car or something (it happened about 10 years ago to my dad's '70 Impala convertible that we used as a daily driver...talk about heartbreak!)
Really, your '68 sounds like a good deal...no major powertrain problems, good body, etc. Yes, the front end might need work, but hey when you've been running for 30+ years, it's understandable :) Whatever you do, I'm sure you'll be happy!
Bruce
PS-Yeah, what your g/f wants might figure in. The '68 has a much higher "chick quotient", at least until a 94-96 becomes a classic in 30 years! 68CoupeDeVille 08-13-04, 07:33 PM I use my motorcycle as much as possible and keep the Caddy in garage. But I do drive it a lot. I've put about 13k miles on it since I got it a year ago. Almost the national average for a new car.
Yeah, I'm just waiting the day that I can get it repainted. The original metallic green paint is ugly and faded. And I don't like the padded roof. I'm gonna have my bro (a body shop tech) peel it off, sand it down, and repaint it Redline red, same as the new Caddies. Then, when I get even more money, I'll trailer it to Wyoming to WyoTech (where my bro went) and have bucket seats from a late model GM truck upholstered to match the original leather and a custom console put in, grained to match the dash, with rosewood to match the door panels, and a hideable modern stereo pumping a nice, big system... Ahhh... the dreams. It wouldn't be a concours car or anything near all-original, but I don't care. I'm the one who drives it so I'll do it the way I want.
Anyways... Sorry to tangent. Night Wolf 08-14-04, 01:10 AM you know, thinking about it more... defintly keep the '68, and don't sell it.... even if it does need a new front end, that shoudln't be enough to sell it... that is a really cool car...
...it got me thinking, I wonder if my '79 DeVille will ever have the status of the more older DeVilles? in the late '60's they had that kinda muscle car, but very classy look to them.... basically, when you see a ~'68 DeVille... it turns heads, and lots of them.... when people see my '79, it just tends to get over looked... maybe the color? maybe in a few more years when people don't see them as much.... I think it is becuase they are exactly like the 80's Broughams, and people think of those as ghetto-cars, and my DeVille has a similar image?
I am holding onto my '79 because I want to do the enigne build up.... maybe in the future get a nice, black paint job... but having one of the truely big Caddy's must be sweet.... I know there is a really nice ~'67 at a local car shop (staked headlights) it is a Coupe... I think a drop top, dunno..... ever time I see that, it makes me want it.... but my '79 is a perfect canidate for the 500 build up.... it weighs 1,000lbs less then '76 and eailer models.... at that, for some reason, when I look at the side profile of my '79 form afar, it looks compact (where as my mothers '89 Brougham dosn't) but inside it is big, and is the only car (besides my mothers car) that I ever felt wasn't too "small" even the '93 Coupe is too small for my liking... but oh well.... davesdeville 08-14-04, 03:22 AM Keep the bench seat. Come on now, why would you want bucket seats, it's not like you need them to keep you in when doing high speed cornering... HotRodSaint 08-14-04, 06:06 PM I had a '67 Coupe Deville and I now own a '96 Fleetwood. They are two different car's. The '67 was a very cool weekend cruiser. When I owned it, it was my second car.
The '96 is definitely a better daily driver because of it's more modern mechanicals and safety features. Since the Impala is it's sister car, it has the support of a diehard Impala SS community that develops some really cool cross-fitting parts.
Neo-Classic styling with an LT1. That's what did it for me. 68CoupeDeVille 08-14-04, 08:43 PM I'm planning on retro-fitting modern buckets because the original bench has all the lumbar support of a living room couch. theGman 08-15-04, 10:47 AM I had a 69 Cad and while not being the same body as your 68, I agree that my 95 FWB is a much better all around daily driver than the 69, and gets much better mileage on regular gas also, for what that's worth. DaveSmed 08-17-04, 04:38 PM I'd be worried about using a '68 for a daily driver, not because they are always falling apart or something, but just because I'd be scared of Joe Blow down the street hitting the quarter panel and totaling the car or something (it happened about 10 years ago to my dad's '70 Impala convertible that we used as a daily driver...talk about heartbreak!)
I know this one alllll too well. I was T-boned in the drivers side in Feburary, and I got my car back just last month. My car is the non-hardtop sedan deville, and the doors (what makes the car rare, to the tune of 9000 produced) needed to be replaced. Finding solid doors proved to be a bit of a challenge. Yes, I am 17, and this is my first car. Couldn't be happier with my decision, despite the gas bills. :cool: I forget what the Rare parts piece cost, it was a while ago when I replaced it. I agree, do it the way you want it. I am. I drive it every day, so making sacrifices for the sake of originality wouldn't make sense. I am trying to keep it as original as possible, and as driveable as possible. I'm looking at Eaton Spring co for some "Resto-Mod" springs, which should improve handling a bit (even though I hate replacing springs). The paint sounds like an interesting project, let me know how it goes. There was a pretty nice red available on these cars, I think it was called San Mateo Red or something like that. RBraczyk 08-17-04, 05:23 PM I was going to get a 67 imperial, but now i've decided that its probably better if i just get my ducati insured and pop a new motor in my truck, and Probably advance the timing and put a cold air intake in, and who knows what else i can do. If anyone has any good suggestions on how to add power without lets say, new heads, do let me know. Thanks. Mystical_Ice 08-17-04, 07:00 PM QUESTION: does your a/c create a serious power drain when you run it? I'm used to losing a little bit of power but this thing just gets weak. It starts to idle low enough that the idle gets rough and the mileage drops to what has to be somewhere in the 7-8 mpg range. Just curious.
i have the same thing. engine runs perfect with the A/C off, but as soon as i put it on, i've got to almost floor the car to take off from traffic lights and stop signs. practically NO power. and with the A/C off, i burn out at every stop sign easily. the engine's full of power. i was wondering if that was normal or not, and if not, how do i fix it :-p 68CoupeDeVille 08-17-04, 09:46 PM i have the same thing. engine runs perfect with the A/C off, but as soon as i put it on, i've got to almost floor the car to take off from traffic lights and stop signs. practically NO power. and with the A/C off, i burn out at every stop sign easily. the engine's full of power. i was wondering if that was normal or not, and if not, how do i fix it :-p
I wish I knew how to fix it. I'd like my a/c blower motor to do a little more blowing too. It really sorta sucks... Heh, heh. Sorry, that was bad, I know. DaveSmed 08-18-04, 09:39 AM Interesting, I don't loose that much power. With the engine off, can you grab the front of the clutch assembly (the part that doesnt move on the pulley with the A/C off and engine running) and spin it freely? Mine turns pretty easily. The blower motor is still weak though, and if you ever take it out, you'll see why. That thing is tiny! 68CoupeDeVille 08-18-04, 10:25 AM Can you replace the blower motor with a more powerful unit? I'm gonna have to do the heater core eventually and might as well swap the motor for a bigger unit if I can while I'm in there. It's a big, black, cab with lots of space. I don't see why Cadillac would put such an anemic blower on such a large car. Were there limitations at the time? My girlfriend's Celica feels like an icy 777 engine at full-blast. Why's my luxury car so meek?
I'll have to check the clutch assembly on the a/c to see how it turns when I get home tonight. If it doesn't turn freely what's the remedy? Mystical_Ice 08-18-04, 11:15 AM it's weird because Cadillacs have always been known to blow freezing air from their vents, but yeah. both Cadillacs i've had blow cold, but not NEAR enough air. and with that black leather interior, you NEED a lot of air. i considered molding a mount for a more powerful blower, like, one from a Chevy 1500 truck or something, because those things blow like hell... probably more efficient too.
anyone ever tried something like this? the blower motor you can palm in your hand, it's a tiny little bastard. lacmang 08-21-04, 02:38 PM [/QUOTE]
PS-Yeah, what your g/f wants might figure in. The '68 has a much higher "chick quotient", at least until a 94-96 becomes a classic in 30 years![/QUOTE]
Actually the 93-96 Fleetwoods are already classic and definitley a chick magnet
Anyways what I would do is keep the 68, and get a daily driver for now that isn't so nice but can get you from A to B. luddyludwick 08-21-04, 05:25 PM Looking back,
Night Wolf, there was a discussion a while ago about how 77-79's don't get any respect. The '80-92 has a big "ghetto image" type thing going on (even the 93-96 does...it's in an ice cube movie...Next Friday, I think), but the 77-79 doesn't seem to have that. It's just probably a difficult time; I mean there wasn't a lot of confidence in American cars at the time, etc. I am sure in a number of years people will begin to appreciate the 77-79 more. I especially like the interior design a little better than the later model cars.
As for the a/c, do '68's have the GM Astro-whatever ventilation system? I just think that was the trade name for flow-through (rather than vent window) ventilation, but nonetheless, I thought maybe that you mean the a/c was better (I think '68 was the first year for Chevys with that...our '70 impala convertible blew a hell of a lot of cold air)
Bruce 68CoupeDeVille 08-23-04, 10:48 AM i don't know if it has the flow-through ventilation. i know, for example, that the camaro switched to such a setup in '68 but my '68 Coupe still has vent windows.
like i said, it'll blow cold, but it won't blow hard. i think all the other '68 Caddy owners that have commented regarding this have all said the same thing: cold air, but not much of it. DaveSmed 08-23-04, 12:09 PM The vent system on the climate control merely opens the fresh air door and turns the blower on fixed low speed. I'm still trying to figure out the power loos your experiencing with the air on. If I floor it from a standstill, a/c or no a/c, it usually results in a trip to the tire store a little sooner than I would like..... 68CoupeDeVille 08-23-04, 03:03 PM you're also using a new edelbrock 750. i've got the original q-jet, which i'm thinking needs to be either rebuilt or replaced soon. with the a/c on my idle drops approx. 150-250 rpm. a big enough drop that i've set the idle with a/c at about 700 rpm to keep the idle from getting too rough and to prevent a stall with the a/c on.
my steering has a tendency to groan when the wheels are turned at idle or at low speeds. do you think my ps pump is going bad or maybe there's just air in the lines. there's plenty of fluid in the pump. | |