: 160* Thermostat?



AlanSr
01-01-10, 06:38 PM
I put 160* thermostats in my other cars with great results.
I've heard the N* is supposed to run hot. Would a 160 help my wife's 2001 Deville?
Or would the engine temps be too low?

Ranger
01-01-10, 07:19 PM
No. Use the stat that is spec'd. I believe it's a 190 or 200. Sub will probably know for sure. A 160 will run it way too cool.

Submariner409
01-02-10, 08:28 AM
Your OEM thermostat is set to begin opening at 188 and fully open at 206. The engine sensors are all calibrated to "assume" a running temperature of about 195-200 degrees. Your cooling fans run in slow whenever any A/C function is set, and if the A/C is turned OFF fans go to SLOW at 224 degrees and FAST at 236 degrees.

A 160 degree thermostat forces the sensors to compensate for a "low temperature" engine fault which gives longer cat lightoff times, slightly richer fuel mixtures and cool oil (which is detrimental to efficiency and oil cleansing through evaporation of contaminants/acids).

The Northstar does not run hot. It runs right in the design temperature band, and if we had better coolants, engines would benefit from running up in the 225-240 degree range due to higher efficiency.

Click the pic to enlarge and see where the engine is running with the gauge at 12:00, its normal reading. In heavy traffic a Northstar FWD will easily go to 225 and back down as the fans cycle.

AlanSr
01-03-10, 12:07 AM
Thanks guys!
I'm glad I asked first.