: My New Model Airplane



CadillacCastle
12-17-09, 06:32 PM
My dad gave me this airplane he made. He built radio controlled airplanes since he was 15 and now 88 1/2 so he has 73 years of experience building and flying them. He doesn't fly them now because all of his friends that flew radio controled airplane moved away or died. He has built so many I don't know how many he has built. This is one of my favorite because the wings are transparent to see the inside of the wings and fuselage. It has an OS 4 cycle engine and all of the controls and 2 battery chargers, one charger for the batteries in the plane and one for the hand held radio control. I will hang it from the ceiling with clear fishing line like my dad did with one of his planes. He gave both of my brothers a plane also, one was a French airplane with the French insignia on it. My oldest brother got a plane but I don't know what kind it is. Dad said my plane is not a copy of a real plane but I like it. Here are some pictures of it. I have to resize the pictures first before I can send them.

eyekandyboats.inc
12-17-09, 09:45 PM
looking forward to see them!.
i run RC boats as well as planes. i have a couple planes ! and they are quite fun! show some pictures.
how are you learning to fly? or do you allready know how?

Stingroo
12-17-09, 09:50 PM
I used to race RC cars for awhile. They're excellent fun. I had this little 1/10th electric drifter, would still hit 50-60MPH if I pushed the hell out of it. Loved that car.

I would love to get into planes, but I can't afford it. I'm starting to get into 1/1 scale cars instead. :D

CadillacCastle
12-17-09, 11:05 PM
eyekandyboats.inc and stingroo, I am sorry but I am having trouble resizing the pictures. I did not have trouble when I had the XP operation system. I have Windows 7 now. If you want to send me your email I can send them to you. I have tried several resizing sites but can not mske them work. sorry about this. Jeff

CadillacCastle
12-17-09, 11:22 PM
looking forward to see them!.
i run RC boats as well as planes. i have a couple planes ! and they are quite fun! show some pictures.
how are you learning to fly? or do you allready know how? I don't fly them, it was dads hobby of his own. I think it was his way to have time alone with his friends his age that he grew up with. I may get a plane to fly that I won't be worried about crashing. My plane has a lot of sentimental value because dad built it. Dad has about 6 more, maybe I can get a trainer to learn to fly with. I am buying dad a helicopter to fly in his house for Christmas. He had one but when my stepmother died 6 months ago her kids stole his helicopter and a lot of things my mother left for me and my brothers. Dad forgot what antiques he already had when my mother died in 1982 27 years ago and what he and my stepmother acquired together. Her kids stole around $30,000 of our things. Dads momory is really bad. He gave me his coin collection and 2 German flags and arm band and his purple heart and good conduct medals and other medals. He still has the German helmet he brought back. I am still trying to find a resizing link for Windows 7 and will post the pictures then. thanks Jeff

Stingroo
12-17-09, 11:23 PM
Send them to me in a PM, I'll resize for you. :)

I love Windows 7. It's a bit weird if you transition directly from XP to 7, but if you have some Vista time in between there, it's bearable, and a welcome change. Best $29.99 I ever spent.

eyekandyboats.inc
12-17-09, 11:29 PM
not sure you can send them in a PM or not.
if not just email them to me and i can help you out. ( my email is in my profile for you.. choose what ever one you want to use)

windows 7.
i have vista and bought my computer recently. so i have a free windows 7 waiting for me.
i am going to update it just after christmas!

Stingroo
12-17-09, 11:43 PM
I promise, you will be much happier. I put Win7 on this laptop that already ran Vista quite well... it feels like a brand new machine now.

CadillacCastle
12-18-09, 12:20 AM
I promise, you will be much happier. I put Win7 on this laptop that already ran Vista quite well... it feels like a brand new machine now. I bought a new Dell Studio 17" laptop before Windows 7 came out and it had Vista on it. I got the discs and upgrade installed with help from Dell of India. Those Dell India technitions really were a lot of help. I wish I had waited and had Windows installed when I got it. I have a bug to work out with it. Sometimes if I have several pages going the words in my favorites will have missing segments in the words and the top of the icons will have segments missing. I like the facial recognition and backlit keyboard. I have the Studio 1737, 2.0 gig processor, 6 megs of memory and 500 GB hard drive and 3 year warrany with low jack if it gets stolen. The warranty even covers if it gets ran over by a truck or dropped in a lake.

CadillacCastle
12-18-09, 12:27 AM
not sure you can send them in a PM or not.
if not just email them to me and i can help you out. ( my email is in my profile for you.. choose what ever one you want to use)

windows 7.
i have vista and bought my computer recently. so i have a free windows 7 waiting for me.
i am going to update it just after christmas! I did not find your email in your profile so I sent my email address in a private message to you. If you email me I will have your email to send you the pictures. Jeff

Stingroo
12-18-09, 12:43 AM
I have a Studio 1536. I really HATE Dell's customer support. Over the phone they're absolutely worthless sometimes, I trust the chat support more.

I recommend calling them back and having them guide you through a clean install. It will erase any issues you were having, not to mention be MUCH faster than just the upgrade.

CadillacCastle
12-18-09, 01:36 AM
I have a Studio 1536. I really HATE Dell's customer support. Over the phone they're absolutely worthless sometimes, I trust the chat support more.

I recommend calling them back and having them guide you through a clean install. It will erase any issues you were having, not to mention be MUCH faster than just the upgrade. I think it was a clean install, I said it wrong when I said upgrade. The problem I had with talking to a few of the Dell technitions in India was understanding their accent. I bought the 3 year extra warranty on top of the one year warranty. Now they say it is only hardware warranty not software warranty. I understood it was both hardware and software warranty. I had some trouble with the facial recognition, I had to turn on another lamp to make it work. Now with some updates it is better. And I understood I had a 30 day return money back if I did not like it but when I called them back when I had trouble after 22 days Dell told me I had a 21 day return policy. I paid a lot extra for the warranty because my last three computers were struck by lightening. Now I have a wirelessmodem/router to avoid having a phone line hooked to it. I only have the battery charger hooked to it with a surge protector. The Dell warranty is supposed to cover lightening strikes and I just bought home insurance to cover everything. Farm Bureau is the lowest cost auto and home insurance I have ever found. A woman I know that works for Allstate insurance told me that Farm Bureau had the lowest cost. My full coverage insurance on my 1998 Deville is $260.00 for 6 months, $520 a year and my house is $407.00 a year, 20% off because I have a metal roof and 10% off because I have auto and home insurance with them. I even had a car totaled out 2 1/2 years ago and my insurance did not go up, the wreck was not my fault, they even gave my $500 deductable back. The only other cost is $40.00 Farm Bureau membership fee. The other insurance company was costing me $115.00 a month and going up to $125.00 when I changed to Farm Bureau. My brother went to Farm Bureau when I told him how much I saved. I have recommended it to everyone I know. Farm Bureau started out costing me $67.00 a month, $3.00 extra for paying by the month and then they lowered it because I have never been late with a payment, now I pay $260.00 every 6 months. Sorry to ramble on and get off topic but when I can recommend people how to save money I will. The only catch is that you have to have a good driving record and 6 months prior insurance without a lapse. Jeff

CadillacCastle
12-18-09, 01:49 AM
What program do others here use to resize pictures with Windows 7 or other operating systems? Jeff

Stingroo
12-18-09, 03:31 AM
Well, I have Adobe Photoshop, but that's immensely expensive unless you get it by uhh... not so legitimate means.

You can use something simple and free though, like GIMP, and it'd get the job done no problem.

CadillacCastle
12-18-09, 04:38 AM
Hi Stingroo, do you have a link to GIMP? Or can I email you the plane oictures to post? How much is Adobe and is it a lifetime subscription on a disc? thanks Jeff

eyekandyboats.inc
12-18-09, 07:34 AM
castle. photos are below.
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Stingroo
12-18-09, 09:08 AM
That thing is really sweet. :)

CIWS
12-18-09, 09:25 AM
What program do others here use to resize pictures with Windows 7 or other operating systems? Jeff

I've used Paint Shop Pro for years. But then I do not posses the skillz for Adobe Photoshop to justify its expense.

CadillacCastle
12-18-09, 09:41 AM
castle. photos are below.
feel free to use the links however you like
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WOW thanks eyekandyboats. thanks for posting the pictures for me. I am trying to learm how to resize pictures with Windows7

CadillacCastle
12-18-09, 10:07 AM
One good thing is dad said he is planning on building another airplane this winter. I need to find out what kind of plane he wants to build and buy the kit for him. He never builds jet type planes. He always builds cool looking vintage type planes. He told me the yellow plane is not a copy of a real plane but I like it because the wings are transparent. He said he has never crashed it but one time it ran off the runway landing and flipped over in a lake. When I was a kid he built a large plane for a rich man in town and I will never forgetwhen he cut the old 12 inch tall G I Joe Pilot in half and put the man in the plane as the pilot. He built several airplanes powered with converted weedeater engines.

Submariner409
12-18-09, 10:42 AM
Ask your father if he remembers the old RC equipment developed by Walt Good and Jim Reed in the 50's. Tiny transmitter/receivers driving rubber band escapement controllers, all vacuum tube, lots of batteries. Also Silkspan, the long-fiber paper used for fuselage and wing covering. Cheap butyrate dope. Ambroid glue. Mixing your own nitromethane, methanol, and castor oil. Amyl acetate dope thinner.

I flew all control line, stunt and combat, but we also had a bunch of RC guys. My Dad built huge sailplane gliders. Does your Dad remember a "Condor" multi-dihedral kit sailplane? 5.5 foot wingspan - We launched them with a 30 foot rubber band.

OS - Japanese engines - both 2 and 4 cycle models - I used an OS MAX .35 two cycle for a while, then went back to Fox and K&B, primarily .35's, but a couple of .29's for smaller racers.

I like the old coal oil and kerosene lamps - reminds me of Grandma's home - and I have them all.........as well as her Western Electric crank wall telephone.

dkozloski
12-18-09, 11:41 AM
There were a whole series of "Condor" gliders in various sizes marketed by Berkeley Models. Berkeley also marketed the radio gear under the "Autotrol" trademark. It seems to me that it operated in a ham radio band and required a ham license to operate it legally. Nobody around here paid any attention to it. A favorite RC plane of the time was the "Rudderbug" which was a Walt Good design.

I had spark ignition Ohlsson and Rice engines in various sizes. McCoy and Dooling for speed racers. There must have been a dozen popular engine builders and dozens more not so popular; OK, Spitfire, Atwood, Forester, Drone Diesel. There were even pulse jets like the Dynajet that you could hear for miles.

Most of the model building and flying around here now is military guys stationed at Eielson AFB and Fort Wainwright. They used to do their flying at the spillway for the flood control project but they got chased from there for some reason. I don't know where they fly now.

Submariner409
12-18-09, 03:41 PM
Dave, remember starting a Dynajet with a bicycle tire pump ?? Keeerist those things were loud !!! Nothing more than a tiny gasoline version of the German V-1 buzz bomb pulse jet......

Dooling was the Rolex of model airplane engines.

McCoy made a neat little "Red Head" .049 c.i. diesel engine we used to use for small free flight stuff.

and, yes, early RC planes required a ham license.

dkozloski
12-18-09, 04:57 PM
Dave, remember starting a Dynajet with a bicycle tire pump ?? Keeerist those things were loud !!! Nothing more than a tiny gasoline version of the German V-1 buzz bomb pulse jet......

Dooling was the Rolex of model airplane engines.

McCoy made a neat little "Red Head" .049 c.i. diesel engine we used to use for small free flight stuff.

and, yes, early RC planes required a ham license.
I had a gold head McCoy 60 that made some power. Also a McCoy .049 diesel with the compression adjustment screw on top. To save the bicycle pump action starting the Dynajet we used a portable air bottle or a truck tire with a hose with a chuck on both ends. I had both a Dooling 29 and a 61. Even the rotary valves had ball bearings. Kids don't seem to be interested in model planes anymore and we used to live and breath them.

A couple of A&P mechanic students of mine that were US Army helicopter mechanics working to get their civilian licenses flew an RC helicopter from Fort Wainwright to Fort Richardson, Alaska using aerial refueling without landing it just for the hell of it. They did it all from the back of a pickup truck. This was a distance of 360 miles. They refueled and swapped radio batteries on the fly. I was impressed. It seems to me they won a bet with some Fort Richardson soldiers that were trying to do the same thing on the same day going the other way but crashed because they went under an overpass while the helicopter went over the top and they lost radio contact with it. All the young kids can do now days is get in some kind of trouble.

CadillacCastle
12-18-09, 11:44 PM
Ask your father if he remembers the old RC equipment developed by Walt Good and Jim Reed in the 50's. Tiny transmitter/receivers driving rubber band escapement controllers, all vacuum tube, lots of batteries. Also Silkspan, the long-fiber paper used for fuselage and wing covering. Cheap butyrate dope. Ambroid glue. Mixing your own nitromethane, methanol, and castor oil. Amyl acetate dope thinner.

I flew all control line, stunt and combat, but we also had a bunch of RC guys. My Dad built huge sailplane gliders. Does your Dad remember a "Condor" multi-dihedral kit sailplane? 5.5 foot wingspan - We launched them with a 30 foot rubber band.

OS - Japanese engines - both 2 and 4 cycle models - I used an OS MAX .35 two cycle for a while, then went back to Fox and K&B, primarily .35's, but a couple of .29's for smaller racers.

I like the old coal oil and kerosene lamps - reminds me of Grandma's home - and I have them all.........as well as her Western Electric crank wall telephone.

.... Hi submariner409, my dad has been making model airplanes since he was 15 starting about 1936. He can't remember a lot of things now at his age bue he probably has heard about most of this that youre asking about. I will write it down and ask him. His memory is one thing that is getting bad at age 88 1/2. I remember him making planes on the kitchen table and having to move them at 6 PM when supper was always ready. I remember the wing covering that he had to put on with a liguid from a square glass bottle that had DOPE written on it. It had the strongest smell and so strong I don't think it was healthy, I probably got a contact high from it and brain damage. LOL It was like using KILZ the house paint cover up. Now he uses a wing covering that requires a little hot iron to apply it. He has a shop to work in now. He had the planes with 2 wires and flew them in a field in circles. I remember boxes of Fox and OS MAX engines and other brands with a lot of wood propellers. He did build a large glider for a friend that got so high I think it got lost. He had a plane that was just a wing that was wire controlled, I thought is was cool because it did not have a fuselage. He has got 3 RC model magzines every month for ever since I can remember. He has built a plane with a 5 or 6 foot wingspan a long time ago. He has always been interested in planes, he even got his pilots license for a small Cessna I think it was called. He has been to the Smithsonian and a lot of museums and air shows to see planes. His best friend that died has a man flying a radio controlled plane in a circle engraved on his tomb stone. I found out not long ago his friend could not land or take off the planes and my dad would do it for him so his friend could fly them in the air. I thought his friend would have learned by the time he was 80 years old. I wish my dads friends that flew planes were still alive, he has one friend that still flys planes but moved to Oregon. He has a 10 foot long plane with 4 engines, it is a copy of a airliner his wife wanted him to make and it took years to make. When dad started the engines at first he used his finger not an electric motor like now and I remember mother getting him bandaids when his finger got nicked. He would not build boats or a helicopter just airplanes. I am buying him a small hlicopter to fly in the house from his recliner a E Flight Blade MCX for 89.00 it was 119.00 but the cost went down. I plan to get it tomorow. It is a toy compared to his radio controlled planes. It is battery powered. I wish he could talk to you and the others here that are interested in planes. Thanks for your interest is the hobby. He is in east Texas if you know anyone near here that is into this hobby. The Aladdin oil lamps are mine that I used to collect but I sold some of them. There are a few I still want to replace. My mother gave me an green Aladdin Washington Drape with a filigree stem that was lost in a house fire. There are so many new reproductions that have driven the value of the old ones down and fake ones glued together at the stem and the filler cap level and not tilted like the original lamps. Sometimes I am the only neighbor with lights when the electricity goes out because of my green Corinthian lamp. I wish I had a bue and a red tall Lincoln Drape lamps and some of the other glass Aladdin lamps. Jeff

CadillacCastle
12-19-09, 12:15 AM
I had a gold head McCoy 60 that made some power. Also a McCoy .049 diesel with the compression adjustment screw on top. To save the bicycle pump action starting the Dynajet we used a portable air bottle or a truck tire with a hose with a chuck on both ends. I had both a Dooling 29 and a 61. Even the rotary valves had ball bearings. Kids don't seem to be interested in model planes anymore and we used to live and breath them.

A couple of A&P mechanic students of mine that were US Army helicopter mechanics working to get their civilian licenses flew an RC helicopter from Fort Wainwright to Fort Richardson, Alaska using aerial refueling without landing it just for the hell of it. They did it all from the back of a pickup truck. This was a distance of 360 miles. They refueled and swapped radio batteries on the fly. I was impressed. It seems to me they won a bet with some Fort Richardson soldiers that were trying to do the same thing on the same day going the other way but crashed because they went under an overpass while the helicopter went over the top and they lost radio contact with it. All the young kids can do now days is get in some kind of trouble. Hi dkozloski, dad had some McCoy engines but I don't remember diesel engines, I'm sure he knew about them. He flew glow plug engines. I wish he could talk to some of you that have the same interest in planes. Dad built one plane and tied the rear wheel to a 100 pound anvil on the patio, he started the engine and reved it up and it tried it's best to take of but couldn't. I will never forget that, I was about 10 years old then. You say the kids are not interested in planes now, I think they could get interested in flying them but it takes a lot of experience to make them from a balsawood kit. I remember dad glueing a penny to the inside of a wing to balance it. Now they have ready to fly planes out of the box. My dad would buy an airplane kit in Dallas for 30 or 40 dollars and build it without an engine or controls and take it to Bernies Hobby shop in Dallas. The owner would hang it up for sale for 300.00 and dad would buy another kit and in 2 or 3 months take it to the hobby shop and collect 300 for the plane that got sold and drop off another plane and buy another kit to make. It was a way he made extra income in the 60s and 70s. thanks Jeff

Submariner409
12-19-09, 09:49 AM
The control line model of a flying wing was built from plans and was called a Half Fast. Later became a kit. Ran with a Fox or K&B .35, very touchy to fly, and could do a loop in less than 4 feet. Used mostly for combat - two guys, two planes, same circle. Each plane had a 3 foot string with an 8 foot crepe paper streamer - the object was to maneuver to chase each other and successively cut off the streamers with your prop. Needless to say, there were accidents.

Butyrate and Nitrate aircraft dope - stuff made you high as a kite, take a break, out in the back yard to straighten out on fresh air, back to finish covering the wings.

My right index fingernail is still sorta outta whack from prop hits..........

EcSTSatic
12-19-09, 06:04 PM
RC SR71 (http://www.fark.com/cgi/vidplayer.pl?IDLink=4464984) I don't think I would have worn those dorky pants for this!

CadillacCastle
12-20-09, 06:44 AM
Ask your father if he remembers the old RC equipment developed by Walt Good and Jim Reed in the 50's. Tiny transmitter/receivers driving rubber band escapement controllers, all vacuum tube, lots of batteries. Also Silkspan, the long-fiber paper used for fuselage and wing covering. Cheap butyrate dope. Ambroid glue. Mixing your own nitromethane, methanol, and castor oil. Amyl acetate dope thinner.

I flew all control line, stunt and combat, but we also had a bunch of RC guys. My Dad built huge sailplane gliders. Does your Dad remember a "Condor" multi-dihedral kit sailplane? 5.5 foot wingspan - We launched them with a 30 foot rubber band.

OS - Japanese engines - both 2 and 4 cycle models - I used an OS MAX .35 two cycle for a while, then went back to Fox and K&B, primarily .35's, but a couple of .29's for smaller racers.

I like the old coal oil and kerosene lamps - reminds me of Grandma's home - and I have them all.........as well as her Western Electric crank wall telephone.

Ask your father if he remembers the old RC equipment developed by Walt Good and Jim Reed in the 50's. Tiny transmitter/receivers driving rubber band escapement controllers, all vacuum tube, lots of batteries. I asked my dad today and he does remember that equipment. And he sais he remembers the diesel engines but he said they were too hard to start. Jeff

CadillacCastle
12-20-09, 07:42 AM
There were a whole series of "Condor" gliders in various sizes marketed by Berkeley Models. Berkeley also marketed the radio gear under the "Autotrol" trademark. It seems to me that it operated in a ham radio band and required a ham license to operate it legally. Nobody around here paid any attention to it. A favorite RC plane of the time was the "Rudderbug" which was a Walt Good design.

I had spark ignition Ohlsson and Rice engines in various sizes. McCoy and Dooling for speed racers. There must have been a dozen popular engine builders and dozens more not so popular; OK, Spitfire, Atwood, Forester, Drone Diesel. There were even pulse jets like the Dynajet that you could hear for miles.

Most of the model building and flying around here now is military guys stationed at Eielson AFB and Fort Wainwright. They used to do their flying at the spillway for the flood control project but they got chased from there for some reason. I don't know where they fly now. Dad remembers the Condor gliders but said he never built one. His memory is bad, I know he built some kind of very large wingspan glider because he built it for a wealthy man in town that liked to fly planes but coundn't build them and the plane was launched at the airport in this small town. I remember the glider got so high they lost sight of it and lost it. I don't know if it was ever found. I bought dad a small 100.00 electric helicopter today to fly around the livig room, he had one before but it was stolen by the stepkids. I went to Wings and Wheels RC discount hobby shop in Tyler Texas today and I was surprised at how low priced the hand built and factory built planes were for sale hanging from the ceiling. I have to find him a kit plane to build, that will keep him something to look forward to build every day and maybe he will start flying again. There were two WW2 military men in the hobby shop looking around. They had the VFW caps on. I wish I had got interested in flying planes when I was younger. I want to get a plane to fly now that I have the plane dad built. I am going to ask dad which plane would be good to learn with. I remember him recommending someone to buy a trainer plane to learn with. He only let my oldest brother fly a wire controlled plane once. My brother said he got dizzy going in circles. I think the planes he built were to expensive to crash. I don't remember ready to fly planes back then.