: '01 vs '98 deck lid



Pega_de
12-16-09, 12:37 PM
Hi there,

I need to know a thing...., is a 01 Catera deck lid the same than a '98 Catera deck lid, or what is the different between this to lid?

Thanks a lot

Marco

CateraMV6
12-16-09, 05:07 PM
I always thought that the height of the actual lights was different so while the lids may be identical, when you install the 01 lid next to the 97-99 quarter pannel tail lights you will notice the difference... it will look out of shape.

Best bet is to ship a lid and lights form europe, or trade the US one with someone from over ther... it will cost over 100$ but it will make your catera very unique....

CateraMV6
12-16-09, 05:10 PM
http://www.allcarpictures.com/pictures/cadillac/catera-1996-1999/cadillac-catera-1996-1999006.jpg
http://www.canadiandriver.com/galleries/2008/images/cadillac/cadillac_catera__1997-2001/2001-cadillac-catera_2-9284.jpg

elvin315
12-16-09, 05:33 PM
I need to know a thing...., is a 01 Catera deck lid the same than a '98 Catera deck lid, or what is the different between this to lid?

I take it you're hoping to use it on an Omega B. Which model year Omega B? Both lids are interchangeable as far as fit. The main difference are the lights. The pre-facelift Catera ('97-'99) has a wide band of lights and reflectors across the lid. The facelift ('00-'01) has 2 separate sets at the left & right corners that match the ones on the fenders. Notice that the Facelift Catera has the red lenses at the top where the Pre-Facelift Catera has the red at the bottom. If you want to use the Pre-Lift Catera lid you can use it on both a Pre-Lift Omega B and a Facelift Omega B. To use a Facelift Catera lid on a Facelift Omega B you'll need the Catera's fender tail lights.

http://inlinethumb05.webshots.com/10180/2280854410048927869S425x425Q85.jpg('97-'99) http://inlinethumb19.webshots.com/3858/2316769350048927869S425x425Q85.jpg('00-'01)

PS: Remember, the pre-lift Catera and Omega share the same fender lights. Only the trunk/boot lights are different. I have pictures of a guy in Pittsburg that converted his pre-lift Catera into a Pre-Lift Omega using an Omega boot lid and lights. They match up perfectly. The Facelift Catera and Facelift Omega lights have the same shape but the lens colors are reversed.

Pega_de
12-17-09, 12:49 PM
my Omega is an '98. I have found a '00 Catera lid. But the seller means '98 and '00 lids are not interchangable. But I think that he don't really knows that ^^

A complete set of tail lights I ve got a few weeks ago on ebay (left/middle/right and brake light), but now I need the lid deck and a "C" of the Cadillac letters, anyone has stolen this letter on shipping to Germany :-/ .

Thanks to all of you for this informations about the drunk deck

CateraMV6
12-18-09, 09:38 AM
Also the Euro Trunk lid wont fit the US tail lights they are entirely different.

Swappign 97-99 lights on 00-01 wont work either, just trace that fender line to the rear of teh car and you will see that the pre 99 lights are shorter then the post 00 cars...

If you swap euro lid from the pre 99 everything should work out for you but making 00 lights fit on pre 99 will be a night mare.

Post some pics of your car when you get a chance.

Later.

elvin315
12-18-09, 02:15 PM
my Omega is an '98. I have found a '00 Catera lid. But the seller means '98 and '00 lids are not interchangable. But I think that he don't really knows that ^^

CateraMV6 is right. The '00-'01 Catera tail lights will not fit a '98 Omega fender. Not without major body work. Sorry. Yes the facelift lid will bolt on a prelift car with no trouble but the lights won't.

CateraMV6
12-18-09, 02:56 PM
I think for a US 97-99 Catera the best mod would be the Omega lid with the euro lights. That will set off the car from all the other cateras and make it that much more unique.

I sent a pair of the 00-01 lights to a friend in the UK who attempted to install them on his 01 Omega but he had a body shop do some major cutting on the lid to make them fit, he was happy but doubt he will ever go through the trouble again.

If you find a decent shipping deal with Omega lids please share with us, I would love to further upgrade my rear end...

elvin315
12-18-09, 03:36 PM
Seeing as he owns an Omega I think he already has an Omega lid. He's obviously going for a Catera conversion. I think he wants the '00-'01 Catera look on his '98 Omega hence the question regarding the '00-'01 Catera lid.

For the record, the '00-'01 Catera hood/bonnet will bolt onto your '98 Omega but the headlights and bumper cover won't clear it. (in case you were thinking about changing the front too)

Pega_de
12-20-09, 08:38 PM
Yes, I would replace my Omega lid with a Catera lid. The Catera tail lights are here ^^. I only would converse to Catera 98 look.

But on friday I have phone with our DMV, because before I order a lid in the usa for a lot of money, I need to know it is legal or not legal to use Catera tail lights here in Germany. The end of the story....., 3 different people says, it is 100% not legal, in Germany we do need a "E" sign on all parts, the Catera tail lights only have a "Dot" sign. :( German rulez sucks, but it's a daily driven car, and to much risk to use not allowed parts.

If anybody needs Omega parts, or whatever....., write me ;)

Kodan
12-27-09, 01:09 PM
For the record, the '00-'01 Catera hood/bonnet will bolt onto your '98 Omega but the headlights and bumper cover won't clear it. (in case you were thinking about changing the front too)

This mine conversion of my Pre Facelift Omega 1998 Caravan to a Facelift model (the short version)
Here you can see are all mine upgrades My Garage (its in Dutch only (http://forum.opelomegaportal.nl/viewforum.php?f=24)

Original 1998 Omega
http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq121/ptrkp/Omega/ombouw/2cc9fd93.jpg

http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq121/ptrkp/Omega/ombouw/b5ee14bf.jpg

Still with the old bonnet, with the Facelift bumper and headlights, the grill won't fit any more.
http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq121/ptrkp/Omega/ombouw/9930c111.jpg

New Facelift bonnet
http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq121/ptrkp/Omega/ombouw/0f22f0f7.jpg

Ready with Irmscher grill and Irmscher bumper lip.
The Irmscher grill is replaced for one with a chrome frame.
http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq121/ptrkp/Omega/ombouw/c5f228a6.jpg

Peter

Kodan
12-27-09, 01:12 PM
If you find a decent shipping deal with Omega lids please share with us, I would love to further upgrade my rear end...

There are a lot of sellers in Germany or The Netherlands who have Omega's lids Pre an Facelift for sale.

Peter

CateraMV6
12-28-09, 01:06 AM
Lovely looking Omega you got there... and I checked out that forum you posted, there is a ton of good info there, too bad I cant read any of it...

Wish there was an easier way for us to swap parts with you guys...

Kodan
12-28-09, 04:51 AM
Lovely looking Omega you got there...

Thanks :worship:
I am not finished, need to do some upgrades.
We are a group off Omega nuts :)


and I checked out that forum you posted, there is a ton of good info there, too bad I cant read any of it...

You can try the quick Google translation, or if you need some more info about a topic please let me know I will translate it for you.


Wish there was an easier way for us to swap parts with you guys...

I buy stuff in the US and let them send to me, I am sure it works the other way. If I can I will help you if you need something.

Peter