: TCBTED Buys a Chick Car



ted tcb
12-15-09, 05:04 PM
Well, I've always wanted a Miata to play around with.
I ordered one in 1989, but had to give it up due to a change in jobs.
20 yrs later, I decided to get one as a really cheap toy.

Pardon the large pics ... Jesda, Ian, and Rick do these road trips so much better than I.

I drove down to Toronto on Sat. to see a 1991 BRG Special Edition, or Limited Edition in Canada.
The car was owned by an investment banker, and he basically had outgrown his hobby ... good for me.
As soon as I saw the car, I knew it was going to be mine.
A true survivor, with only 60,000 miles and really good condition for the age. Best part, due to the time of year, I bought it for about $5kUSD.



Driving down to get it would be an adventure ... the weather has been really unpredictable up here, and you cannot trust any forecast.
I'm 90 minutes north of Toronto .... just north of me, they closed 2 towns on Friday, labelling them snow emergency zones.

My 05 Civic EX was the car I'd take down today, with my daughter as copilot.

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Trunk loaded with cat litter and windex and a shovel for the way home ... I didn't know if the Miata's wiper system even worked ... never driven in rain or snow ... until today, that is.

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Up here in Canada, it's a national requirement to start every drive with a cup of Tim Horton's coffee, or Timmy's as we call it.
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Yep, this could be interesting in a 2000lb car, summer tires, rwd.
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My daughter insisted on stopping at Starbuck's ... that was her only demand, so what the heck.
These lovely gents behind the counter wished me good luck, but never asked what type of car I was buying!! I guess they aren't gearheads, but I suspect they would've approved of a Miata.
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ted tcb
12-15-09, 05:15 PM
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The Miata owner live in a very nice part of Toronto.
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Here is the ceremonial handing off of the keys.

I'm the happy one on the right, Gerry on the left, he kept saying "I shouldn't have sold it, I hope it doesn't start".
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And, here is the garage queen, about to head up north through snow and slush to her new home in Orillia.

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ted tcb
12-15-09, 05:31 PM
First thing I did was load up the sand in the trunk, check all fluids, add air to the tires, and hit Hwy 400 North.
The car drove like a dream. She tracked like a dream, straight and true.
The clutch pickup was perfect, no strange noises or smells, and everything works ... even the 20yr old factory cd player .... my favourite feature, the speaker built into the seat headrest. You can adjust the fader from door speakers to seat speakers.
I drove the entire way at about 75mph/4000 rpm.
We hit snow coming out of Toronto, and it never slowed down.
I was pretty careful, as the car hasn't been appraised ... that's happening tonight, so I can get cheap collector's insurance.
I crawled under the car as best I could and removed all traces of snow ... 1st good day, she gets an underside spray, and oiling in the spring.
After a 3 hour cleanup, all I could find were a few very small stonechips.
She cleaned up nicely for a snowy wash in my driveway.


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ted tcb
12-15-09, 05:37 PM
Last couple of pics, then she goes away for a few months.

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The trunk is immaculate, as is the interior.
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Her winter home, just before the car cover goes on.

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Thanks for reading.

This car should provide some cheap thrills next summer at close to legal speeds, which is what owning a Miata is all about.

gary88
12-15-09, 05:37 PM
Congrats! Very nice color combo.

orconn
12-15-09, 05:49 PM
Ted's comment is very true, the Miata provides a lot of fun at "legal" speeds. Best of luck with your new toy! Enjoy it for mnay years to come.

Jesda
12-15-09, 05:59 PM
This is an example of my "dream" Miata, in the exact color that I've wanted since I was in middle school. The 96 M-edition and possibly some other years had a weird feature where a motor under the seat vibrated in conjunction with the bass to simulate the thumping of a subwoofer as part of a Panasonic sound system.

How was long-distance comfort? A lot of guys with non-M roadsters complain that the seats can be painful after a few hours.

It would be torture to buy something that immaculate and have to park it for so long. :(

V-Eight
12-15-09, 06:13 PM
Wow, that interior is just beautiful

Jon
12-15-09, 06:28 PM
Congrats! Now come join the autocrosses in Barrie held by TLMC :D

hueterm
12-15-09, 06:50 PM
British racing green and camel -- how FTW is that???

ted tcb
12-15-09, 07:03 PM
Jesda, the long term comfort was ok .... the previous owner gave me a small lumbar pillow that greatly helped.

I'm sure its all relative ... coming out of a Cadillac or Lexus, the ride would be barbaric.
Compared to my coworker's car with 17" tires, mine rides like a much larger car, due to the factory 14" wheels
and good shocks and bushings.

Having said that, the ride is so much nicer with the top down and sun shining upon you and your significant other.

tr's-cts
12-15-09, 07:15 PM
You'll need to bring it to the states and run the "Tail of the Dragon" www.tailofthedragon.com

billc83
12-15-09, 07:20 PM
Quite nice. That really is a fantastic color combo.

I think it was Hemmings Sports and Exotic that did a write up a few months back where the writer found the perfect British Racing Green on some vintage car and asked the owner of the car. He leaned over and whispered "Mazda Miata Special Edition."

Congrats on the purchase!

creeker
12-15-09, 07:21 PM
A trick I used to do when I lived in a snowy area was to use an
oscillating lawn sprinkler under my car once in awhile,
Have fun with your new toy.

Night Wolf
12-15-09, 07:29 PM
Wow! Very nice!

I imagine the 1st gen Miata to be in-demand in the future, at least nice examples such as yours!

I had a hard time deciding between the NA or the e30 when I was in the market, a good local friend has one that is prepped for auto-x, I've rode in it many times, I really like it. What is really neat is that the soft top can be raised/lowered without even getting out of the drivers seat.

The stock suspension is pretty neat too, the more body roll created when turning, the more camber added, thus improving overall handling.

eyekandyboats.inc
12-15-09, 07:30 PM
ted she looks great!. i havent seen many miatas In orillia when i am there cottage-in..lol if i see you i will say hi in the summer! :)
nice buy

The Tony Show
12-15-09, 07:48 PM
The BRGs are one of the most sought after special editions- right up there with the Sunburst Yellow. Congrats on a heckuva find.

Between my 90, 94 and 99 10th Anniversary Edition, I'v had quite the love affair with Mazda's little roadster over the years. I'll own at least one more at some point, as there really is no other car today that offers such a pure, unfiltered and fun driving experience as the Miata. Even Jeremy Clarkson lists it as one of his top 25 cars of all time.

Enjoy it.

Night Wolf
12-15-09, 07:58 PM
The BRGs are one of the most sought after special editions- right up there with the Sunburst Yellow. Congrats on a heckuva find.

Between my 90, 94 and 99 10th Anniversary Edition, I'v had quite the love affair with Mazda's little roadster over the years. I'll own at least one more at some point, as there really is no other car today that offers such a pure, unfiltered and fun driving experience as the Miata. Even Jeremy Clarkson lists it as one of his top 25 cars of all time.

Enjoy it.

Gah.... you have something in common with my friend who has a '90 Miata...

Making me want one, again.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-15-09, 08:11 PM
Very nice, I've always wanted to drive a Miata. That british racing green with the camel leather interior is very FTW, just like Hueterm said.

Night Wolf
12-15-09, 08:14 PM
Hey OP - is your name actually Ted?

That's interesting, as it is already an uncommon name, which also happens to be the name of my local friend with the Miata.... who is also like 6'4, and the Miata is lowered, yes - it is a site to see.

DILLIGAF
12-15-09, 09:02 PM
That car looks awesome!I have never heard anyone that has owned a Miata say the car sucked.They remind me of an MG with more refined creature comforts.It's an underpowered go cart!

Night Wolf
12-15-09, 09:07 PM
That's exactly what they are, a reliable and modern version of the old British roadsters.

DILLIGAF
12-15-09, 09:16 PM
That's exactly what they are, a reliable and modern version of the old British roadsters.
I have fond memories riding in an old MGB GT, four wheel sliding around corners with my uncle.The first time I rode in a Miata,it instantly took me back to those exact moments in my life.Good times

c5 rv
12-15-09, 10:03 PM
My wife had a 92 (white w/ black cloth interior, 5-speed). It was a fun car and, with proper winter tires, weight in the trunk, and a hardtop, a tank in the winter.

ted tcb
12-15-09, 10:33 PM
Hey OP - is your name actually Ted?

That's interesting, as it is already an uncommon name, which also happens to be the name of my local friend with the Miata.... who is also like 6'4, and the Miata is lowered, yes - it is a site to see.

Yep, I'm Ted ... the TCB 71 on the plates of my Civic originated from my now late, 1971 Cutlass Convertible, hence Taking Care of Business, 1971.
I'm thinking new plates for the Miata should read "91 BRG".

Your friend is 6'4" ... I'm only 6'-1", but, standing beside the Civic or Miata, I must look taller. Truth be told, I'm probably shrinking as I age.:)

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-15-09, 11:12 PM
I remember going to a Mazda dealer with my dad when I was a kid (like 7 or 8) and standing next to a Miata and being about as tall as it was.

ted tcb
12-15-09, 11:17 PM
There's a great local Miata community in Toronto.
They have a website that I'm in the process of joining ... lots of knowledge to assist me in future mods, and they seem
to be a fun group.

One of their members took a shot of me heading north on Hwy 400, trying to beat the snow with my summer tires.
What a fluke, but its pretty cool that he came across my little road trip and had a camera ready.

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creeker
12-16-09, 12:41 AM
Yep, I'm Ted ... the TCB 71 on the plates of my Civic originated from my now late, 1971 Cutlass Convertible, hence Taking Care of Business, 1971.
I'm thinking new plates for the Miata should read "91 BRG".

Your friend is 6'4" ... I'm only 6'-1", but, standing beside the Civic or Miata, I must look taller. Truth be told, I'm probably shrinking as I age.:)

Isn't 1971 about when Randy Bachman had a hit song "taking care of business"?.

ted tcb
12-16-09, 01:21 AM
Yeah, as a Canadian, it's a catch phrase from BTO ... Bachman, Turner, Overdrive.
Also, it was Elvis' catch phrase, painted on the tail of his Corvair 880 jet, and adorning areas of Graceland.

Seemed to go with a 1971 car ... here's a pic of my Cutlass.

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RightTurn
12-16-09, 01:28 AM
Great find on a fun car, Ted. :highfive: Congrats.

gdwriter
12-16-09, 04:12 AM
Congrats on the Miata; you definitely got a mint one, and I too love the British racing green without the crappy British electrics. You will have a lot of fun with that car.

A friend of mine has a red '93 with the hardtop (he needs to replace the rear window in the convertible top; has only needed to do that for six years or so :rofl:). I call it the M&M because that's what it looks like with the hardtop (and a double meaning considering the car's initials). I've driven it several times, and it's a blast. Great shifter and go-kart handling. Not something I'd want to take on a long road trip, but a great car for driving just for the fun of it.

My only problem is getting in and out of them. I'm 6'0" and 210 lbs., and I always banged my knees on the steering column. Once in, I had enough room, but ingress/egress was awkward.

ted tcb
12-16-09, 10:37 AM
I agree that ingress/egress is somewhat of a challenge, especially with the top up.
To me, that's part of the fun. Its a sports car, and it is defiinitely a different experience than getting into a sedan or SUV.

For that very reason, I could never own a Miata as my principal driver.
When you're in the mood for an exhilarating rush, take the Miata and row through the short throw gearbox.
Driving in the rain to perform some mundane task ... take your daily driver.
I view the Miata as a motorcylce ... it reminds you that driving can be fun.

The Tony Show
12-16-09, 12:44 PM
Head over to miata.net and make an account- it's an absolute treasure trove of great Miata info. If you come across any helpful DIYs by some guy named "Tony Orlando", that would be me. :D

This thread makes me miss my 10AE.....

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RightTurn
12-16-09, 12:49 PM
ahaha. "Tony Orlando." :rofl:

c5 rv
12-16-09, 12:57 PM
Congrats on the Miata ... Not something I'd want to take on a long road trip, but a great car for driving just for the fun of it.


My wife bought her Miata in Palm Springs, CA while we were visiting my dad one February. Our first trip was driving it home to Michigan. We cancelled our return airline tickets and left a couple days early. As we were leaving, my dad came out with bags of freshly picked citrus fruit we somehow managed to wedge into corners of the car - and take into motel rooms each night so it wouldn't freeze. We managed to travel between snowstorms so the drive was easy.

I remember sitting in the passenger seat while headed across New Mexico and commenting that I never before knew what the underside of a semi trailer looked like.

"G$"
12-16-09, 01:22 PM
The BRGs are one of the most sought after special editions- right up there with the Sunburst Yellow. Congrats on a heckuva find.

Between my 90, 94 and 99 10th Anniversary Edition, I'v had quite the love affair with Mazda's little roadster over the years. I'll own at least one more at some point, as there really is no other car today that offers such a pure, unfiltered and fun driving experience as the Miata. Even Jeremy Clarkson lists it as one of his top 25 cars of all time.

Enjoy it.

How tall is TCBTED?

The only problem is as they say "Miatas are for Midgets." Or for Lilliputians to put it more gently.

The Tony Show
12-16-09, 01:24 PM
If the top is up, they can be challenging for really tall people to enter. Once you're sitting in it though, they're surprisingly roomy.

gdwriter
12-16-09, 02:51 PM
For that very reason, I could never own a Miata as my principal driver.
When you're in the mood for an exhilarating rush, take the Miata and row through the short throw gearbox.
Driving in the rain to perform some mundane task ... take your daily driver.
I view the Miata as a motorcylce ... it reminds you that driving can be fun.Totally agree with you there.

gdwriter
12-16-09, 02:58 PM
I remember sitting in the passenger seat while headed across New Mexico and commenting that I never before knew what the underside of a semi trailer looked like.:histeric::histeric::histeric:

ted tcb
12-16-09, 05:59 PM
I agree with "The Tony Show" commenting on Miata.net ... they helped me with the search for this car.

I love your anniversary condition ... I want to install one of those "style bars" .... ie, non functioning roll bars.

Sweet car.

The Tony Show
12-16-09, 06:31 PM
Thanks man. I highly recommend Racing Beat for any mods you do, be it performance stuff like intake/exhaust/suspension, or style items like the rear hoops. They're a little spendy, but have fantastic customer service and extremely high quality stuff.

Those guys and RSpeed are probably the two best vendors for MX5 parts and accessories.

Jesda
12-17-09, 12:01 AM
I used to poke around Miata.net back in the 90s but stopped a couple years ago because they're a bit cranky and particular when it comes to general car talk. The meets are pretty amazing and the site is an incredible resource. You can find my old posts from high school way deep in the lost archives of the forum.

Aron9000
12-17-09, 01:16 AM
The thing I love about a Miata is you don't have to be going insanely fast to have fun. The last car I had(1999 Z28 Camaro) was fast as hell, but to really push the car's limits meant you were either doing 150mph or doing 20-30mph over the speed limit on a curvy road. It was a fun car, but it was a foolhardy endeavor to push its limits on a public road.

The engineering and build quality that went into this little car is simply astounding. There are about 4 cars that I can name off the top of my head that are as light and have a similar handling feel as the Miata, but they all cost stupid amounts of $$$.

To the OP, that is the cream of the crop for NA cars. Perfect color combo and it looks immaculate. I prefer the exposed headlights of the NB cars, but I can't decide if I'd want an NA or NB car. I've been thinking about buying one to complement my leviathan Cadillac in the garage.

Destroyer
12-17-09, 08:47 AM
Damn nice Miata! I had a '97 model and loved taking 90 degree turns that would make make most performance cars wind up in a tree. Too bad it didn't have back seats for the kids.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-17-09, 09:08 AM
Whats na and nb?

ted tcb
12-17-09, 09:44 AM
The NA series is the original Miata, from 1990 to 1997, or 1st generation car, hidden headlight, small motor, lightest car.
The NB came out in 1998, slightly heavier, fixed headlights, ran until 2004.
The current, or 3rd generation, is the NC, and its a bigger, faster, heavier, more refined car.

The Tony Show
12-17-09, 12:10 PM
Whats na and nb?

It's the VIN code. First gens vins start with JM1NA, second gens with JM1NB. It can get confusing on Miata forums, especially since NA usually means naturally aspirated.

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
12-17-09, 06:45 PM
The thing I love about a Miata is you don't have to be going insanely fast to have fun. The last car I had(1999 Z28 Camaro) was fast as hell, but to really push the car's limits meant you were either doing 150mph or doing 20-30mph over the speed limit on a curvy road. It was a fun car, but it was a foolhardy endeavor to push its limits on a public road.

:yeah: Even though my Lincoln is not a full blown sports car, it has handling and power that is better than 85% of the cars on the road. Pegging the speedo means you are doing around 110 and even then the engine is simply cruising at three grand. At that speed you still have about 2500 rpm to play with before you start redlining it.

Night Wolf
12-17-09, 07:27 PM
The thing I love about a Miata is you don't have to be going insanely fast to have fun. The last car I had(1999 Z28 Camaro) was fast as hell, but to really push the car's limits meant you were either doing 150mph or doing 20-30mph over the speed limit on a curvy road. It was a fun car, but it was a foolhardy endeavor to push its limits on a public road.

You just described the e30 too ;)


The engineering and build quality that went into this little car is simply astounding. There are about 4 cars that I can name off the top of my head that are as light and have a similar handling feel as the Miata, but they all cost stupid amounts of $$$.

ditto, except they are pretty darn cheap.


Damn nice Miata! I had a '97 model and loved taking 90 degree turns that would make make most performance cars wind up in a tree. Too bad it didn't have back seats for the kids.

.... it has a back seat too.

Not trying to bring another car into the thread, but the driving dynamics/experience between the two is rather similar, with the Miata having the edge.

I spent alot of time deciding between the two, alot of time researching and reading up on them. I am happy with my choice, but everytime I see a mint Miata, such as the OP's, it makes me really want to pick one up to play with.

"Performance" isn't all about 0-60 and 1/4mi :cool:

Jesda
12-17-09, 08:30 PM
One awesome thing about the Miata is that it has "sizzle". You can feel the road and engine in the shift knob, clutch pedal, and steering wheel. Its not crude, its ever-present communication that makes you fully aware of what you're doing, and therefore puts you in full control of the vehicle. This is a characteristic that trickles down to other Mazdas as well. One thing I dislike about older BMWs is that the recirculating ball steering isn't as communicative as a full rack and pinion, but thats how the Germans roll.

Night Wolf
12-17-09, 08:41 PM
One awesome thing about the Miata is that it has "sizzle". You can feel the road and engine in the shift knob, clutch pedal, and steering wheel. Its not crude, its ever-present communication that makes you fully aware of what you're doing, and therefore puts you in full control of the vehicle. This is a characteristic that trickles down to other Mazdas as well. One thing I dislike about older BMWs is that the recirculating ball steering isn't as communicative as a full rack and pinion, but thats how the Germans roll.

How old are you going back for BMW to have recirc ball steering?

I understand exactly what you mean about the "sizzle" tho, I guess I never quite put it into words like that...