: september 2004 motor trend

Caddy Man
08-04-04, 01:37 PM
i just read the new MT, and they do a comparo btwn a few large luxury sedans, the bmw 745i, MB S430, Jaguar Vanden Plas, Audi A8L, Lexus LS430 and the VW Phateon. Now my question is this, to all those that b*tch about the price of the upcoming STS, how come no one ever complains about a 75,000 VW!?!?! when the h*ll did VW become a luxury brand? Cadillac is way more presitious than a VW yet so many people find it hard to make a higher priced Cadillac sedan. The loaded Phaton goes for 100,000 with the v12, i dont care how nice that car is, I am one of those people that is somewhat name sensative (face it, most of the world is) and would never shell out that kinda cash for a VW. I saw they were makin a comparo of a VW with all these big name luxury sedans, it made me upset with cadillac in a way. cadillac needs to stop making the DTS and STS side by side like they have been, same engine, same suspension, same price, just DTS is a little longer. The category the STS fits in is filled, there dont have to be 2 VERY similiar cars in the same category, now cadillac needs to leave it alone and focus on the top models. They need to redesign the DTS to take on 7 series, S class, lexus LS, that way, all the models are filled, CTS for entry, STS for mid size, and then DTS would fill in large luxury sedan. I know cadillac can do it, if VW can do it, surely cadillac can!!! They need to make the DTS more advnaced than the new STS, and price it more also, around 70,000 range. sure many of you might compain that price is too high, but how is cadillac ever supposed to compete with big name models when price wise nothing comes close to the same category. These are just some of my thoughts, any opinions?

08-04-04, 06:11 PM
I too hope for the 08' DTS to be Cadillacs top car...........the STS does not cut it for a top car.....I think the DTS will go above that.....and maybe offer a V12.

08-04-04, 06:27 PM
Whatever happened to the V-12? I thought it was supposed to be used in the Escalade and STS.

08-05-04, 01:02 AM
...These are just some of my thoughts, any opinions?

alota ppl just dont like cadillacs. and their "image"...and are to ignorant to actually look into them + and believe anything overseas is far better

oh yea...the new sts is looking TOO nice :worship:

08-05-04, 07:55 AM
i don't complain about a 100 grand vw because i would never own it and would make fun of anyone who did. so i don't care how much it costs.

John Caddy
08-05-04, 08:25 AM
$100K at a VW dealer should sounds like a good deal for about 9 GTI's, nothing else. But since those socialist b#st#rds took Saddam's side in the war it doesn't matter since I won't be looking at VW (or BMW, Daimler-Chrysler or Audi), screw them!