Well, I've searched and searched, but cannot find any instructions for pulling the service engine codes on my 06 STS4. I tried using my scan tool, but it keeps saying "communication error". Not sure if the fact that I cannot do like most cars with a key...."Turn Key on, but not start" (Key FOB only allows for Accessory, or Start. The "Service Engine" light stays on (does not blink/flash) so I believe it is emissions related, but would like to pull the codes and see what's up. Does anyone know how what steps to take to pull the codes?

Im pretty sure the code reader has to be compatible with a canbus system.

Not sure about the compatibility of my reader, so that's why I'm hoping someone can instruct me on the manual way to pull up the codes.

If you are refering to how you could pull codes on the DIC in the older Seville and Deville, you cannot do that on the STS. You need a code reader that is Canbus comatible. That is why even ith a $3000 Tech II you still need a $600 Candi module to use it on the STS.

Bummer!
Thanx for the info LAC STS, that was what I had hoped to do. No big deal, I will take it to the dealer next week. It may be related to the repair work they just performed last Thursday.....new water pump. I just wanted to see if I could figure it out before taking it back to the. I miss the good old days when a simple fella could trouble shoot pretty much all the problems with his car without constant trips to the dealer.

Me too. There is an online petition you can sign up for that is trying to get congress to make it where auto makers like GM can't hide information or require dealer only tools to fix cars. Try googleing "right to fix my own car" or something like that.

I doubt it will change anything but I signed up for it anyways. It sends a letter to your congresman asking them to support is and adds your name to list of thousands for when they go to congress with it.

You can buy a scan tool that is canbus enabled at many auto parts stores. They are not too expensive. All it will do is pull codes.

Thanx! I'll go look for that petition and sign up! Can't gripe about it, if I won't try to help change things too! I'll check on a new scanner too.

Push the blue OnStar button and ask them to read out the codes for you. You can also go to AutoZone or some other parts dealer and they'll read out the codes for you.

I didn't think On-Star would be available for that if I didn't pay for the service at this time.

It only costs $15/mo. I can't imagine a Cadillac owner that can't afford that.

Hello dkosloski, my name is Tightwad, pleased to meet you. Now I'm the 1st Cadillac owner you know who doesn't pay for On-Star :)

Hello dkosloski, my name is Tightwad, pleased to meet you. Now I'm the 1st Cadillac owner you know who doesn't pay for On-Star :)
Actually I know quite a few. It's still a mystery to me. Where I live OnStar will provide cell phone service when much less robust hand held devices won't. To me it's well worth the money for the protection it offers my family.

Have you ever read Onstars terms of use agreement? Some people, including me and the person who wrote the FAQ on caddyinfo.com about this subject, don't want Onstar reporting every where you go to whomever pays for the info. Some peoe don't care for another type of a big brother.

So just because someone doesn't have Onstar acivated doesn't make them cheap.

If I wanted it activated and it was $100 a month I would have it. But I don't want it, and I don't want it sending tracking info to whoever they want so not only do I have it not activated but I have it disconnected.

Have you ever read Onstars terms of use agreement? Some people, including me and the person who wrote the FAQ on caddyinfo.com about this subject, don't want Onstar reporting every where you go to whomever pays for the info. Some peoe don't care for another type of a big brother.

So just because someone doesn't have Onstar acivated doesn't make them cheap.

If I wanted it activated and it was $100 a month I would have it. But I don't want it, and I don't want it sending tracking info to whoever they want so not only do I have it not activated but I have it disconnected.
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they ain't after you.

LAC STS-

Customer Service vs. Privacy

Did you know your cellphone probably does the same thing? How else do advertisers in public places (airports, etc.) targit ads to buying patterns linked to your number. By default, most cell phones can broadcast while off!

Do you use grocery store member cards for discounts?

You're not paranoid when they really are out to get you (your $).

No I dont use member cards. I shop at so many places and so often I would have to have two extra wallets to carry all of the dumb cards.

And cell phones dont transmit anything when off. And anyone who really knows how to use they're cell phone knows how to turn the location services off.

I dont have anything against onstar. But when deciding if I wanted to activate it I weighted whether I would use it or not vs. cost vs. privacy. If I would use it I would not be worried about them tracking me everywhere I go and selling the information. But in my case I dont see myself ever using it, so since it is not activated I disconnected it.

In some European countries they have a federal registry of where everybody in a hotel/motel room is sleeping that's updated every evening. How long is it going to take Obama to implement this in the U S? The data is already out there. It just has to be collected and compiled.

Hmmm.......and to think I missed all these possibilities just because I was being a cheapskate :)

The only way to stop cell phones from linking with the nearest tower is to remove the battery. Wise up.

Lol

Why do you think that FAA regulations say to turn off your cell phone from take off to landing? Because they dont want your cell phone transmitting signals that might interfere with the aircraft. Meaning they dont when off. And even if they did if your location services are off your phone does not triangulate your position. Which is why even 911 cant locate your position unless your location services are off.

Ignorance is bliss. Be happy.

This site has everything sex, conspiracy thoery whats next, it is really not that deep when you are stuck on a backroad somewhere onstar won't seem so bad and remember big brother is watching.lol

Yes it is. Look around the internet you'll see.


Intersting how you can turn your phone off and leave the battery in and then turn it on a few days later and the battery is the same. Huh.... Interesting...


All you have to do is google. theres a lot about this subject. FBI Genovese crime family bust discussions are great.

... Not sure if the fact that I cannot do like most cars with a key...."Turn Key on, but not start" ...

You can do this on the STS. Press and hold the start button for about 10 seconds. All the dash lights/indicators should come on but without an engine crank.

I'm not in my car at the moment, and I honestly don't recall, but I believe you press down (accessory mode) for about 10 seconds to activate this mode.

I don't believe this will impact your ability to read codes.

Thanx MacMuse, I'll have to try your theory out. The dealer had a look at the car today and said they got a "Lean condition on Bank 2" message. They cleared the codes, hoping the problem stemmed from something that happened when they replaced the water pump last thursday. I'm not that lucky and now have to drop the car off tomorrow morning so they can spend some quality time trying to narrow down the problem. They said it could be as simple as an O2 sensor, or maybe even the catalytic converter? Really doesn't matter to me, as all the work is under warranty! Any parts replaced now should last just that much longer (I hope)

OP,

1. It sounds like your scanner cannot read a GMLAN data bus (CAN) Sometimes you can purchase updates for your scanner, sometimes you have to buy a new one.
2. Look at the back of the air duct, a common oversight when reinstalling the ducting is leaving the fresh air inlet tube for the PCV system off the nipple on the back of the duct.
I see it a lot. Make sure it is installed.

3. The so called "right to repair" act is a joke. I spoke in another thread about it. You can get your car fixed anywhere you want. The freedom of information act makes scan tools and service information available at a price from it's COPYRIGHTED CREATOR. GM spent a bit of cash doing R&D on your car and they have rights to that information. They are required to make it available and they do. You can purchase access to any and all of the information you could ever want and anyone can call SPX and order a shiny new Tech 2 with a CANdi module for about $3,000.... the same price we had to pay for each of the 6 we had to buy to service these vehicles. It is a scam by the aftermarket to keep them from having to pay for what they need to make a profit without them having to make an investment... AKA, a joke.

4. Let's loosen up the tin foil hats, I think some of you are suffering from a lack of circulation to the brain pan... :lol:

I agree that with the right amount of money you can get the information and such, and you can have your car repaired anywhere. And the act is probably bs and not ever going to change anything. But like you said in another post about the guy wanting diagnostic software or a Tech 2, even if you do buy a $3,000 Tech 2 you cant reflash or reprogram any of the modules unless you are connected to that GM network, right?

Can a local repair shop get access to that network?

And I thought (may be wrong) that the "right to repair" referring to being able to have your vehicle serviced anywhere was that even though all or most of the information or tools are available, that the average joe should be able to work on his own car or even take it to a local little guy repair shop. As of right now only some of the biggest repair shops have all of the equipment and Tech 2's and whatever else to rival the dealerships.

Just wanted to comment on the cellphone/aircraft issue. NO, NOT, NYET, NG, does NOT intefere with ANYTHING on an aircraft.
This is an old falicy used by the airlines to restrict the noise issue inside the cabin by rude patrons. But, once the aircraft has reached altitude you would be wise to turn it off because a cell phone searching for a signal will surely kill the battery after a few hours trip. Unless the airlines supplies cell service, guess what? NO cell towers at altitude. Just don't fall for that "danger" crap. Each cell site transmits 832 channels of signal much more powerful than your phone, and your aircraft, when in reach, is rolling or flying through many overlaping towers.
Not sure? Ask a pilot (one you have a relationship with).................... Joe P

I agree that with the right amount of money you can get the information and such, and you can have your car repaired anywhere. And the act is probably bs and not ever going to change anything. But like you said in another post about the guy wanting diagnostic software or a Tech 2, even if you do buy a $3,000 Tech 2 you cant reflash or reprogram any of the modules unless you are connected to that GM network, right?

Can a local repair shop get access to that network?

And I thought (may be wrong) that the "right to repair" referring to being able to have your vehicle serviced anywhere was that even though all or most of the information or tools are available, that the average joe should be able to work on his own car or even take it to a local little guy repair shop. As of right now only some of the biggest repair shops have all of the equipment and Tech 2's and whatever else to rival the dealerships.
Around here, all the independent shops, unless they are "dirt floor" operations, have appropriate electronic analysis tools to service almost any auto likely to drive in. If they don't, go somewhere else.

On the aircraft phone issue. I know it's bs I was just saying. If they did interfere they wouldn't if off. The shielding on aircraft wiring is good enough to block most strong interference let alone cell phones.

About local shops having equipment. I know of a few shops that are quite big and do alot of business that still send cars to the dealer for certain things. I was sent to Cadillac a few years back for somekind of power module replacement (PCM maybe) and that guy has a computer diagnotic rack that costs as much or more than a tech 2. Maybe like ewill3rd said about having to have access to a GM network to get the updates and whatever. But I know of a lot of decent size shops that still send peoe to the dealer for things

Thanx for the airbox tip ewill3rd. I'll look just to satisfy my curiosity. As for the cellphone use on airlines.......I have to agree that common sense would certainly come into play here. Airlines have to fly in, around, thru, constant radio waves, microwaves, EMF's, and who knows what other types of waves, without so much as a hiccup. So cellphone use couldn't possibly hinder the flight. I do appreciate the "no Cell Phone use" rule just for the quiet flights. Now if they would have a "No Sneezing or Coughing" rule........I'd cash in all my frequent flyer miles right now!!!

You can purchase access to TIS2WEB also to perform programming and other procedures.
Individuals can too, however it is cost prohibitive for an individual as it is designed for shop use.

I have left my cell phone on by accident on planes without any crashing or lost communication.
I don't care much about it, it isn't that hard to go without using my cell phone for the length of most flights I have been on.
I would like to have used it with the bluetooth headset I got when I flew to Russia (3 times in 2 months) but the in flight magazines said BT devices are not allowed so....
I don't plan on flying again for a long time so I really don't care.
I have already flown like 35,000 miles this year so no thanks!