: SEMA or 2010 Camaro parts show



Albertan
11-03-09, 08:42 PM
Walked the SEMA show in general today. Pretty much every booth had some flavor of 2010 Camero. I'm sure there must have been 500 of them. I even saw one with Lambo doors at the vertical door company. Also saw one with magnacharger and two yes TWO turbos.
I was looking for any Cadillacs but not a one to be seen. Not to say there wasn't a V there but I didn't see it.
Lots of people and a lot of parts for the LSX engine.

ga_etc
11-03-09, 09:07 PM
Please do me a favor, learn to spell the word CAMARO.

LS1Mike
11-03-09, 10:09 PM
The Camaro is pretty hot right now. Not to mention it is on a very good platform. In addition to that the LSX is probablly one of the best engine lines ever made.
Twin Turbo LS3? That would be yummy!

The Tony Show
11-03-09, 10:23 PM
http://static.reelmovienews.com/images/gallery/mugatu.jpg

The Camero is so hot right now.

Albertan
11-04-09, 03:10 PM
ga
Thanks for the valuable info! I've never owned or wanted to own a CamAro
so I didn't pay a lot of attention.

ga_etc
11-04-09, 03:46 PM
You should test drive one. They're good cars and a lot of fun.

Albertan
11-04-09, 05:06 PM
ga
I just can't get by the front end and the little windows on the sides. On the other hand, there is lots of room in front of the engine for whatever you want to do. ie supercharger etc. Edelbrock has a new supercharger for the Vette that is the same as on the ZR1 and I think it bolts to the CamAro. Many of the superchargers now drive from the front along with the air intake so no jack shafts. Unfortunately for our V's Magnacharger unit still uses the jack shaft.
If you want to see a crowded engine compartment, the twin procharged M5 only has room for water to run down. I can't see how they managed to get it all in there and still close the hood. (Kinda like when you are packing a suitcase for a 2 week vacation-jam everything in and force the zipper closed)

V-Eight
11-04-09, 05:59 PM
^ Really? I love the front end, in fact I find it to be the best part.

ga_etc
11-04-09, 06:03 PM
I wasn't just talking about the new one. I owned a '98 V6 model before the ETC. Mine just had the 3800 V6 and automatic but was still entertaining to drive. It just wasn't the most civilized car. Mine had t-tops and a 1-in-2-out Flowmaster on it. The exhaust wasn't loud or obnoxious but Chevy didn't bother with much sound deadening in them. You could forget talking on the phone running down the interstate at 75 mph.

V-Eight
11-04-09, 06:19 PM
Oh the 4th gen front ends were terrible, I agree on that one

ga_etc
11-04-09, 06:23 PM
Albertan was talking about the front end on the new one. I liked my 4th Gen styling. Having the right color helped.

V-Eight
11-04-09, 06:50 PM
Yep, probably should have looked closer at who was posting lol. What colour was your Camaro, and at sound dampening.....lets be honest here....who wants a quiet Camaro :D

ga_etc
11-04-09, 06:56 PM
Mine was Cayenne Red. I posted some pics of it in the "post pics of your car" thread. Just might have to go back a page or two. The new one is surprising quiet inside. My great uncle bought one and I got to ride in it. Need to be able to hear the exhaust more... His is an automatic (I know, I know) but I read a review that said the 6 speed has more of a note to it.

V-Eight
11-04-09, 07:10 PM
Yeah, I test drove the new one, even from the outside its too quiet. Nothing wrong with an auto if its a daily driver, in fact I prefer an auto. The only exception to that is the 1st gen V, I don't care if its manual or not, when I buy one - it'll be the DD

V-Eight
11-04-09, 07:13 PM
Mine was Cayenne Red. I posted some pics of it in the "post pics of your car" thread. Just might have to go back a page or two. The new one is surprising quiet inside. My great uncle bought one and I got to ride in it. Need to be able to hear the exhaust more... His is an automatic (I know, I know) but I read a review that said the 6 speed has more of a note to it.

Oh, you do have the updated 98 front end. Didn't catch that, I just really dislike the first half of the 4th gen.

ga_etc
11-04-09, 07:21 PM
Yeah. The only thing I didn't like on the styling of that car, '98-'02, was that from certain angles they looked a little like a fish.

V-Eight
11-04-09, 07:24 PM
...and the front end looked a little too much like this

http://www.theautochannel.com/media/photos/chrysler/1998/98_chrysler_concorde_lxi2.jpg

ga_etc
11-04-09, 07:30 PM
I meant to specify that it was the front end that looked fish-like. The Concord you have pictured is identical to my assistant mgr's car. They are UGLY, and VERY fish-like in the front.

V-Eight
11-04-09, 08:02 PM
Yeah, but I think the car in general looks a little close to the Condorde. Its just the dual lights and that 'mouth' at the bottom. I'd certainly take the Camaro lol

itschrome
11-04-09, 08:10 PM
not all camaro's, cant forget this..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTDNLUzjkpg
pretty sick i think.

Albertan
11-04-09, 09:02 PM
That STI and a "sleigh" are at the SEMA show. Those tracks (I think) are made in Canada for use in Northern oil exploration.
Only Camaro I really liked was the 1st gen. I had a friend with a SS COPO version.
I can remember him doing bleach burnouts on the street. Oh to be young and foolish again!

Stingroo
11-04-09, 10:20 PM
Bleach? What?

And hey.. I actually like the Concorde in black. A friend of mine has one and it looks really good I always thought.

Personally, I don't like the way the 4th Gen F bodies look at all. The 3rd gen Camaro is my favorite, and the 2nd gen Firebird.

However, the new Camaro is pretty much one of the closest things you can get to sex on wheels, other than.. well... sex on wheels.

V-Eight
11-04-09, 10:34 PM
Bleach? What?


Makes for a lot of extra smoke.....try it

LS1Mike
11-04-09, 10:38 PM
Bleach + burnout = Lots of smoke.

That STI is pretty cool and I bet it is a lot of fun!

If you didn't like the 4th gen Camaro there was always another choice...

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7752/bird1du8.jpg
:D

V-Eight
11-04-09, 10:40 PM
^That's my choice for 4th gen :D

ga_etc
11-04-09, 11:31 PM
I have always loved Camaros but the Firebirds were good looking cars too. Sometimes they got the better styling and were mostly overlooked. Nothing screams badass more than a Ram Air WS6.

ga_etc
11-04-09, 11:46 PM
While we are on the subject anyway... This is set to debut at SEMA...

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/4/203/4521/38007260101_large.jpg
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/4/203/4521/38007260096_large.jpg
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/4/203/4521/38007260100_large.jpg
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/4/203/4521/38007260098_large.jpg

V-Eight
11-04-09, 11:59 PM
Bruuuuuuuuuuutal

ga_etc
11-05-09, 12:29 AM
http://www.caranddriver.com/news/car/09q4/lingenfelter_455_t_a_concept-auto_shows

There's the link for the Car and Driver link but the needed info is:

"Given the company’s penchant for pumping up horsepower, of course Lingenfelter would rework the engine, too. Under the striped hood—there’s no huge screaming chicken as of now—sits an aluminum 455-cubic-inch (7.5-liter) V-8 block with a lofty 11.5:1 compression ratio, ported-and-polished Lingenfelter heads from the Corvette Z06’s LS7, a forged crankshaft, and high-flow intake. The custom stainless-steel exhaust comes courtesy of Corsa. Power output is quoted at 655 hp and 610 lb-ft of torque, up significantly from the 426 hp of a stock manual Camaro SS. Also present are a new twin-disc clutch and flywheel assembly and tougher rear half-shafts to withstand the extra grunt. Handling alterations are limited to the addition of Nitto tires."

Stingroo
11-05-09, 02:27 AM
Ew. It doesn't look anywhere near as cool as it could.

itschrome
11-05-09, 03:00 AM
Ew. It doesn't look anywhere near as cool as it could.

I agree, looks cheap and plasticy. Like a cheap toy from a dollar store. sad really.. could have been cool

ewill3rd
11-05-09, 06:28 AM
Amazing how a car started production in 1966 (that would be 43 years ago) and they didn't make them for a short 7 or 8 years out of that time, it was one of the most popular cars on the road and a huge number of people still can't spell the name right. Boggles the mind.

If you ask me they have only made about 6 years worth that were any good, at least in the looks department.
The '69 and '10 models are the hottest by far, closely followed by the '67-'68 and trailing on we have the early '70s split bumper which degraded later on into a pretty weak sportscar. I think we can just go into the record books and completely erase the 80's altogether. What a load of crap rolled out of every car plant in the world during that decade. Phenomenal.
The LS engine era brought the powertrain aspect back to life but the looks just weren't there, at least not for me.

I miss my '69 most of all even though it was pretty beat up I think it was one of the most beautiful cars I ever owned.
I want a '10 so bad I can taste it but I haven't got the cash right now :(
I asked for one for my birthday but with the adoption and the renovations in the house I am betting.... not.

Stingroo
11-05-09, 07:12 AM
Honestly, the 2010 Camaro is so nice, I would even "settle" for the V6 to save cash just to get one if I could.

It's gorgeous. I remember seeing it on the auto show circuit in 2007 and thinking "Holy crap, imagine the looks that thing would get."

It's weird, down where I live in FL, I never see them. I've seen two of them actually moving on the road. One black one that I occasionally would see going down the road sometimes, and a yellow one I saw in a CVS parking lot -- and I almost ran over some little old lady because I was gawking at it. lol

V-Eight
11-05-09, 11:11 AM
Amazing how a car started production in 1966 (that would be 43 years ago) and they didn't make them for a short 7 or 8 years out of that time, it was one of the most popular cars on the road and a huge number of people still can't spell the name right. Boggles the mind.

If you ask me they have only made about 6 years worth that were any good, at least in the looks department.
The '69 and '10 models are the hottest by far, closely followed by the '67-'68 and trailing on we have the early '70s split bumper which degraded later on into a pretty weak sportscar. I think we can just go into the record books and completely erase the 80's altogether. What a load of crap rolled out of every car plant in the world during that decade. Phenomenal.
The LS engine era brought the powertrain aspect back to life but the looks just weren't there, at least not for me.

I miss my '69 most of all even though it was pretty beat up I think it was one of the most beautiful cars I ever owned.
I want a '10 so bad I can taste it but I haven't got the cash right now :(
I asked for one for my birthday but with the adoption and the renovations in the house I am betting.... not.

The 80's Camaros LOOKED nice, they just weren't all that fast. I think the only nice car to come out of the 80s was the GN

Spitzbergen
11-05-09, 11:58 AM
I would love a 2010 V6. It would be a great platform for a turbo kit...

V-Eight
11-05-09, 12:00 PM
....so would the V8 :lildevil: I'm sure in the future there will be Camaros taking down the ZR1

concorso
11-05-09, 04:26 PM
I would love a 2010 V6. It would be a great platform for a V8 swap...Fixed. :)

V-Eight
11-05-09, 06:24 PM
My dad got a whole bunch on SEMA pics, I'll probably post them up at some point

Aron9000
11-07-09, 01:59 AM
...and the front end looked a little too much like this

http://www.theautochannel.com/media/photos/chrysler/1998/98_chrysler_concorde_lxi2.jpg

You could really fix the "catfish" and the "it looks like a Chrysler" problems by changing out the grill, like I did on my old 1999 Z28. I must say that the 4th gen LS1 was the ultimate "caveman's car". Loud, uncomfortable, cave like interior, ridiculuos styling, and faster than anything on the road. You had to be a real man to drive one, cause you'd put it in the ditch if you didn't know what the hell you were doing.

http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/22972182776.jpg (http://www.fquick.com/garages/viewgallery.php?action=viewimg&id=182776)
http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/22972182752.jpg (http://www.fquick.com/garages/viewgallery.php?action=viewimg&id=182752)

ga_etc
11-07-09, 05:26 AM
Beautiful Z Aron. I would still have my '98 if I hadn't stumbled across the Caddy.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
11-07-09, 09:03 AM
...and the front end looked a little too much like this

http://www.theautochannel.com/media/photos/chrysler/1998/98_chrysler_concorde_lxi2.jpg

I agree. It's funny, when those Concordes and LHS's were redesigned in like '98 or whenever, Car and Driver said they were the most beautiful cars on the market. :eek: If they could only take back those words now....

I hate Concordes (aside from that super cool franco-british Jet). A friend's dad has one similar to that and we always get seasick when we ride in it...it's too floaty and with the way the rear seat is shaped, you feel claustrophobic because you sit low and away from the windows.


Bleach + burnout = Lots of smoke.

That STI is pretty cool and I bet it is a lot of fun!

If you didn't like the 4th gen Camaro there was always another choice...

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7752/bird1du8.jpg
:D

For the LS1 cars, I think that the Firebird was the better looker, but for the LT1 models, I like the Camaros more. I love how they have those set-in headlights...it looks super edgy and aggressive. Kinda like a cheetah running with it's eyes squinted.


While we are on the subject anyway... This is set to debut at SEMA...

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/4/203/4521/38007260101_large.jpg
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/4/203/4521/38007260096_large.jpg
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/4/203/4521/38007260100_large.jpg
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/4/203/4521/38007260098_large.jpg

That doesn't look half bad, but I'm sorta confused as to why to recreate a 70.5 Firebird, when the Camaro's body is so low and flat, much more like a '67-'69 Firebird/Camaro. I guess it would have looked much more natural to me if they recreated the '69 Trans Am.


http://www.caranddriver.com/news/car/09q4/lingenfelter_455_t_a_concept-auto_shows

There's the link for the Car and Driver link but the needed info is:

"Given the company’s penchant for pumping up horsepower, of course Lingenfelter would rework the engine, too. Under the striped hood—there’s no huge screaming chicken as of now—sits an aluminum 455-cubic-inch (7.5-liter) V-8 block with a lofty 11.5:1 compression ratio, ported-and-polished Lingenfelter heads from the Corvette Z06’s LS7, a forged crankshaft, and high-flow intake. The custom stainless-steel exhaust comes courtesy of Corsa. Power output is quoted at 655 hp and 610 lb-ft of torque, up significantly from the 426 hp of a stock manual Camaro SS. Also present are a new twin-disc clutch and flywheel assembly and tougher rear half-shafts to withstand the extra grunt. Handling alterations are limited to the addition of Nitto tires."

I'm glad they made it 455 CID, as a nod to the old days. :yup:

Albertan
11-09-09, 02:49 AM
Speaking of reproduction bodies. There was a company producing 69 camaros, 66 Mustangs and 70? Chevelle bodies. For around $13,000 you get the complete body from firewall back including doors and trunk.
I would imagine a person could buy all other reproduction parts so someone can now make "new" old cars.

ewill3rd
11-09-09, 08:33 AM
I don't have the luxury of owning and old car just to own an old car.
For me, what I need is something that looks gorgeous but has all the modern conveniences and safety features that most production cars have.
My '69 Camaro was a great car but from a safety and comfort standpoint it was a turd.
My 2-60 air conditioner and make shift interior offered nothing as far as safety, comfort, or convenience.

I like the Retro thing if done right.
Oh don't get me wrong, if I had the scratch I'd drop tons of dough to have a '69 Yenko sitting in my garage for looking at, but I need something that I can drive that is more affordable.
The old ones cost more than the new ones these days anyway.

Albertan
11-10-09, 12:10 AM
Yes, I'd rather have the conveniences and comfort of new cars. A few years ago I visited a friend that had an original 68 Z28 and we went for a ride. I'd forgotten how loud and rough they were. Impressive for a ride around the block but I can't imagine driving 1000 miles in a day in one. Re doing one of these reproduction cars would be just a hobby and a challenge to do.