I have always found the CTS-V clock to be the cheapest part of the car. I really dont like the cheap plastic hands. I wish they had spend a few bucks more and put in a better clock.

Anyone know if the Bulova Clock in the Escalade is the same size as the CTS-Vs and if it can be installed?

Meh - clocks OK. I like the power, and the steering, and the brakes,.....

I prefer digital. Easier to read at high speeds!!!

it's just a clock...you didn't spend all that money just to complain about the clock?:cookoo:

Just use the one on the nav

I have always found the CTS-V clock to be the cheapest part of the car. I really dont like the cheap plastic hands. I wish they had spend a few bucks more and put in a better clock.

Anyone know if the Bulova Clock in the Escalade is the same size as the CTS-Vs and if it can be installed?


take the band off of a Rolex an affix it over the stock clock.

now you good-to-go.

done and done.

it's just a clock...you didn't spend all that money just to complain about the clock?:cookoo:

Just use the one on the nav

You can use the one on the Nav.:thumbsup:

Others might like a nicer alternative to the factory clock.

take the band off of a Rolex an affix it over the stock clock.

now you good-to-go.

done and done.
Hilarious - I was thinking the same thing. Quality clocks should be on your wrist.

A previous thread pointed out that the Nav unit on the 2009 CTS-V has no clock. In any case it is a trivial thing to get excited about.

You know it is hard to justify the clock when everything else around it looks so nice. I just dont get it. I love the drive, the handling, the interior but that clock is just NOT right.

I dont care about the name Bulova (or Rolex) on it. I am just hoping the Bulova has better looking parts. My clock's plastic hands are not even straight, they are a little bent.

On a side note, how do you get the digital clock up?

The analog clock on my car looks fine. How do you know that the hands of this clock are plastic? As I said before, there is no digital clock on the 2009 CTS-V. There is nothing to "bring up."

A Baby Ben might fit in there. You'll just have to come up with a means of winding it.

The analog clock on my car looks fine. How do you know that the hands of this clock are plastic? As I said before, there is no digital clock on the 2009 CTS-V. There is nothing to "bring up."

You can see that they are made out of plastic.... cheap plastic.

You might need to call in the expert on this matter...





































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Well abbas, I guess your powers of observation far exceed mine. You can not only spot plastic, you can tell that it is cheap just by looking at it. If I ever become concerned about the clock in my car, which is totally unlikely, I guess I'll call in the expert suggested by Nutz (pretty funny) and see what he has to say.

I think the clock is fine. Its not overly done for the simple point that your in a performance car - so eyes on the road! Does the vette have a clock? Probably a digital one in the nav.. not flattering at all.

A previous thread pointed out that the Nav unit on the 2009 CTS-V has no clock.

Just an FYI, my 2009 CTS-V does in fact have a digital clock on the Nav unit. Press the Config button to access it. It is the tab on the right that shows the time. However, it only seems to show in this menu though. It has the date and time as well as selecting wheather or not you want Auto GPS update and Daylight Savings time update and Area you are in.

I have always found the CTS-V clock to be the cheapest part of the car. I really dont like the cheap plastic hands. I wish they had spend a few bucks more and put in a better clock.

Anyone know if the Bulova Clock in the Escalade is the same size as the CTS-Vs and if it can be installed?

Geez ... the guy asks a legit question and almost everyone jumps all over him. :tisk:

I wish I had an answer for you abbas, but I don't. Does anyone?

:yawn:

The modular looking clock just does not do justice to the Cad CTS-V interior. I did notice the hands, but the oversize (for that size of clock) chrome ring is what 1st got to me. I won't default the Cad for it, but it does look out of place. A more refined, aerospace precision looking timepiece would be more appealing.

You might need to call in the expert on this matter...
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ROFLMAO!!!!!

The first time I noticed the clock was when I had to correct the time on it a few months ago. I thought it looked plain, but then again I didn't buy this car to look at a fancy clock, I wanted fancy roadwork. It is indeed one of a number of places that corners were cut in this car. Personally, I'd rather have this than to pay 70+k for an XF-R, or more for an M5. GM spent the money in this car on performance and a pretty decent interior, minus those few baubles missed.

Even so, I am also very curious about the OP's question as to whether the 'lade's Bulova piece fits. It might be a fitting upgrade for some and if it fits, it is certainly something I can do later in ownership to keep the car fresh to me. Awaiting a good answer to this question!

A nice precision Autometer 2 1/8" or 2 1/4" vacuum / boost gauge wouldn't look too bad in there.

4gear70,
You are correct in that pressing the Config button allows you to set the system clock. You are also correct when you say that this clock is only visible on the Config menu screen. I stand by original assertion that this clock cannot be seen when the Navigation unit or the radio is active. Since the clock cannot be displayed either on the Navigation screens or on the radio (AM, FM, XM, etc.) why does it need to be set? It must be set so that the Navigation unit, which operates on time differences from at least three different satellites, can know where on the globe you are when it tries to find the available satellites.

The clock is also necessary for time restricted roads. I checked mine out today, and though it was set for day-light savings time, the clock had not updated today. Has anyone else seen this issue? It could be because last year, DST came later in the year, and the car wasn't updated. Is there a TSB for this?

As of yesterday early morning, mine had not reset.

Neither the analog clock or the digital clock automatically adjusts for DST. The analog clock adjustment is obvious. To set the digital clock (which is not visible in either radio or GPS mode) you must press the Config button, select the Clock tab (which contains the time the digital clock is set to, and then turn off the DST setting. You can wait forever and this will not happen automatically.

Flavor Flav! What a moron! I agree with and aftermarket gauge in place of the clock. Speedhut makes gauges to match factory gauges, I have them on my 03 Cobra and they are sweet.

I might add that as far as automatic DST updates are concerned, it will never happen on this car or any other car that is sold in the US and outside the US. The lack of automatic updates is not a design defect or an oversight by the programmers. There is no TSB and the programming will never change. CTSs are sold around the world. Many parts of the world do not use DST at all (particularly near the equator), and those that do, go on and off DST at different times. Also, some parts of the world actuallly have time that is offset from GMT by 1/2 hours rather than full hours (Venezuela and India being two examples). I have had Cadillacs with digital time settings since 2004 and none of them ever updated the DST setting automatically.

If that's the case, why is there a DST button in the menu? This is a Microsoft product, after all, and my computers and WinMo phones all automatically set the time correctly as long as the processor knows where it is and the DST setting is enabled. IMO, when this software was written the date of the change was different, and then the government changed it's mind but the software wasn't updated to reflect the change. My dealer is checking into this for me. It will be interesting to see if the NAV clock changes automatically in a week or two. The analog clock is not so connected, so it must be reset manually, of course.

Flavor Flav! What a moron! I agree with and aftermarket gauge in place of the clock. Speedhut makes gauges to match factory gauges, I have them on my 03 Cobra and they are sweet.

I thought I came across a thread on where Wait4Me had a guage display that replaces the clock and offers several different readout options.
I wonder if it is still available...

The DST button is for turning DST on or off. Having a button does not imply that anything happens automatically. How do you know this is a Microsoft product? Do you have some inside information that tells you GM hired Microsoft to the software or are you just guessing? Cell phones get their time from the cell phone system. Your opinion is wrong. As I said in my previous post, you can wait forever and DST will not turn off (or on) automatically. Your dealer is going to tell you the same thing I just told you.

The Nav/GPS/Audio system in my 2009 V2 claims it is running version is "Microsoft Auto 5.0", so I'm pretty sure Microsoft has a hand in the software. This information is available on the Info button.

Sorry, when I push the "Info" button on my 2009 CTS-V, there is nothing said about Microsoft or any software that it might be running. This sort of information is not provided when I push this button. How about a different button? Or some combination of buttons?

Microsoft has been mentioned in numerous threads. They do these systems for Ford, and even BMW with iDrive, too. The dealer has confirmed it. This is not an opinion. Further, Windows Mobile phones DO need to be set to change with DST, or they won't. Further, they then tell you that it happened. In fact, my HTC 6900 woke me up with an alert at 2:00 AM last Saturday night; thank you, Microsoft! With that logic in mind, it would be reasonable to think that DST would be an automatic function if so selected. The dealer is checking this out. One would also think that the system could sync with XM or the GPS satellite, but it clearly doesn't do that either. It's still possible that the timing of the change was different when originally programmed. There is a TSB for cars built before the end of March that may cover some of this.

This is not rocket science. The DST button is to turn it on or off. Why would you think it would do anything automatically? As mentioned before, some areas do not use DST at all, and as we know from the great idea the US had that it would be better to change the days the DST starts and ends, now different places are on DST than others. They also used to program VCR's with set dates to go on DST and off but now they are just wrong and you need to turn the DST feature off and change the clock manually to get it right. Sure the Nav system could automatically change it on a set date but it would not be correct for everyone as it is satellites that work the system. The reason your cell phone updates automatically (if you set the phone to update the date and time automatically) is it is getting the information from the system where you are currently are. That is also true for the cable converters that use the online guide system to set the time and it does not need you to manually change it. If you have a watch that updates itself you usually have to set the DST for it manually as well. I think it makes more sense to just set a DST to on or off than try to make it happen automatically and make it wrong for some areas (or when another Government decides it is "better" to change when DST starts and ends).

Everything that brianwetzel says is correct. He, unlike most of the other posters, knows what he is talking about. You will note that when I called marktanner on the Microsoft issue he reverted to assumptions since his infomation about what he saw when he pressed the "Info" button on his car was not correct. Another incorrect assumption he made was that this has something to do with the change that the US government made regarding the start and end of DST. It does not. There is no TSB and no changes to the DST progamming will ever be forthcoming from GM. There is a saying that goes "Anyone who represents themselves has a fool for a lawyer." A similar inference can be made for those who believe everthing a dealer tells them.

I might mention that all of the time information received by GPS units is UTC time, and Garmin GPS units do not update the DST setting automatically. Now, so-called some atomic watches and clocks will update DST automatically. I know this for a fact, actually have both, and have observed both do this automatically. But this works only because the RF signal that they receive is from WWVB in Colorado or one of the other transmitters in Europe or Japan. The system in the 2009 CTS-V does not receive these signals and will not update the DST setting automatically. I hope brianwetzel's and my comments end this ridiculous string of posts by people who think they they know what they are talking about, when, in fact, they don't. I, for one, do not intend to even look at these threads again.

Out of curiosity, I looked at the pertinent screen on the navi yesterday. The time was correct and the DST button was set to "off". When I pushed the "on" button, the time sprang forward an hour. I do believe this is really a manual change, as Ted states above. I certainly never look at the system clock as it is buried so deep in the menu system. Why automatic change was not programmed in is beyond my comprehension.