: Nobel Prize for



firstimecaddi
10-09-09, 11:30 AM
POTUS (http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/10/09/obama.nobel.international.reaction/)

Submariner409
10-09-09, 11:58 AM
If you can't fill 'em with facts, baffle 'em with bullshit.

Our Pitchman-in-Chief in action.

orconn
10-09-09, 12:42 PM
Well, his history is one of "affimative action" from Punahou to the White House. While his status as the first affirmative action president of the United States is remarkable it hardly qualifies him for the Nobel Peace Prize. I am amazed at the Nobel committee's willingness to dilute the prestige and honor of this award in this fashion. However, it isn't the first time it has been awarded to the undeserving.

C&C
10-09-09, 12:42 PM
Don't you have to do something before you get a Nobel Prize (apparently not).

Maybe he got it for apologizing for all the things America has done. (in the world/to the world) I know two of my favorites is saving humanity (from the Germans) twice.

I thought it was just the American public he 'pulled the wool over our eyes'; apparently he's done the same to the World (unless there's something we don't know that's going on behind the scenes, and I mean clandestine things.

Sorry, I usually don't spew politics on forums (especially car forums) but damn, this one has gotten my goat.

orconn
10-09-09, 12:50 PM
Personnaly, I think the award was a petty European attempt to show just how much they hated George Bush. And once again Obama benefitted, not from achievement, but from a circumstance beyond his control. Let's hope that Obama's "good luck" benefits our country as a whole and not just a few Chicago cronies of the "affirmative action " President!

dkozloski
10-09-09, 01:26 PM
The nominations for this years Nobel prizes were closed on February 1st so whatever it was based on occurred in the first twelve days of Obama's term in office. This award is preposterous.

RightTurn
10-09-09, 01:37 PM
Exactly.

orconn
10-09-09, 01:41 PM
Judging from the comments of world figures concerning Obama's winning the Nobel Peace Prize on the 12 o'clock news, I would say those of us who are amazed at his choice for the award are not in the minority. Though diplomatically phrased, and reading between the lines, the consensus seems to be "he didn't deserve it," not yet at anyrate! Even George Bush detractors are embarassed!

EcSTSatic
10-09-09, 01:57 PM
I lost all respect for the program when they gave it to Gore in '07

c5 rv
10-09-09, 02:12 PM
I think it is a Eurotrash effort to boost Obama's world stature in his efforts to advance their socialist causes of anti-capitalism, global warming, disarmament, and accommodation of terrorists and dictators.

Submariner409
10-09-09, 02:45 PM
I'll bet the rest of the Euro governments are politicking for part of an Obama TARP.........

"No, you can't have the Summer Olympics, but we'll trade that for a Nobel - Good boy." Now take care of your "friends".

Bat Crap !!!

Gristle Boy
10-09-09, 03:08 PM
Did Barry do something besides just be Barry to win this? Most peculiar. :hmm:

Also, death to Al Gore.
:mob:

Florian
10-09-09, 06:44 PM
He isnt GWB, thats why he won.

Oh, if they didnt vote for him, theyd be racist, thats how it works now.

With what the Anointed One did in 12 days, I hope next year Im nominated, as we both deserve it the same amount.


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Ranger
10-09-09, 07:00 PM
And apparently the slobbering love affair continues. Absolutely amazing. :helpless:

DILLIGAF
10-09-09, 07:48 PM
What a galactic joke!As was Carter,as is Gore,any other undeserving democrats i'm forgetting?The tool should have turned it down.I wonder who got shafted out of this lifetime achievment award?

Destroyer
10-09-09, 09:50 PM
Don't you have to do something before you get a Nobel Prize (apparently not).


My sentiments exactly when the story broke out. Now, I voted for Obama but a Nobel peace prize?............:wtf:. I could understand if he ended the war in Iraq or Afghanistan but so far we really haven't seen much on the peace front or any front actually. I'm watching the news channels tonight and it is being said that it may have been given to Obama on the premise of expectations. Expectations? I thought you got the Nobel peace prize AFTER you did something for peace. I don't get it. :banghead::whatever:

orconn
10-10-09, 12:03 AM
Now I could understand if he had been given an award from the nation's big bankers for the total free hand he has given them to continue to rape the public and the banks' shareholders. Or maybe an award from the nation's educators for having gone the furthest while putting out the least effort! That I would understand .... but a Nobel Peace Prize, shame on the Nobel Committee and shame on Obama for accepting the award when he knows he doesn't deserve it. However, this does continue his streak of luck, rather than accomplishment, based attainments.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
10-10-09, 12:13 AM
I'd like to know the reasoning behind this...

orconn
10-10-09, 01:34 AM
Barak Obama, by his own account, was a very mediocre student in high school. He was able to attend Punaho School in Honolulu, one of the finest college prep schools west of the Mississippi, as a token black on scholarship ..... neither his family's finances nor his academic achievements to that point would have made Punaho possible if he were white. His admission to Occidental College, given his mediocre high school performance, made possible again by "affirmative action" and again his academic performance was less than outstanding. Let's face it a mediocre white student from a minor California liberal arts college with only mediocre academic credentials wouldn't have been admitted as a transfer student to Columbia University (one of the most competitive academic institutions in the U.S.). We are told that his grades improved at Columbia, but with the two tier grading system at Ivy League schools, it's hard to know what he really accomplished academically there. It is well know that black and chicano applicants to Harvard Law School are given special consideration as to their academic grades and LSAT scores to allow them entrance when whites with similar scores would be denied acceptance. Apparently while receiving the honor of the editorship of the Harvard Law Review Obama never had an article published in the Review. Upon graduation from law school he chose to be a community organzer rather than spend the 60 to 80 hour work week required of young associates at top U.S. law firms. His "ad Hoc" professorship at University of Chicago was not a regular paid teaching position but rather voluntary part time position. Apparently Obama never attended faculty meetings while teaching at U. of Chicago. His election to the Illinois State House was again a bit of a fluck as was his election to the U.S. Senate. And let's face it without the meltdown in the U.S> economy in the months before election day, Obama most probably have not been elected .... inspite of the Bush's extreme unpopularity affecting Mc Cain's campaign. All of this is part of the public record; Obama's good luck is very obvious. I hope it continues to work for our national good in the years of his administration .... Lord knows we need it!

dkozloski
10-10-09, 01:44 AM
I read somewhere that since being awarded the Nobel prize his head has swelled up to where it now matches his ears.

Aron9000
10-10-09, 02:19 AM
What a galactic joke!As was Carter,as is Gore,any other undeserving democrats i'm forgetting?The tool should have turned it down.I wonder who got shafted out of this lifetime achievment award?

Somebody needs to read their history books. Carter brokered peace between Egypt and Israel, which still stands to this day.

Getting back on topic, Obama in no way deserves this award. Like somebody said earlier, I think giving it him was an extremely petty, politically motivated statement to show how much they hated George W.

gary88
10-10-09, 02:21 AM
I read somewhere that since being awarded the Nobel prize his head has swelled up to where it now matches his ears.

I heard that on Rush this morning.

osu411yamaha
10-10-09, 05:37 AM
Just sad. So many scientists work hard everyday trying to cure diseases such as cancer and aids. They dream of a Nobel in the back of their mind. Now the value of this great award has been diluted like this based on the expectation that he might do something for world peace. What is the world coming to. I'm starting to believe the stories. Maybe he is a tool for the worlds elite bankers.

tdyguy2k
10-10-09, 06:19 AM
He may yet acheive world peace. But will it be worth the cost of dividing his own country, and running it into the ground?

Ranger
10-10-09, 11:51 AM
NO ONE will ever achieve world piece. Least of all him.

orconn
10-10-09, 01:31 PM
If you are interested in finding out what has been done (or hasn't been done) about reforming the banking and financial laws in this country under the Obama administration Google the "Bill Moyers Journal" show for october 9, '09. His guest were highly creditable and gave good insight into what has been going on in Washington as it pertains to the reforms promised by Obama during his campaign and his appointees desire to change the system. Once again it confirms that Obama and his close advisors are too inexperienced and lacking in political savvy to have much impact. His appointing "foxes" to guard and reform the hen house is a fine example of this serious deficit in his ability to do what's right for the country. Until there are major reforms to the laws governing the practices of the banking and financial industries America will lead itself and the world to continuing economic chaos. Untile the mediacl services and healthcare industries are brought under control our medical cost will continue to spiral out of control and the American people's ability to afford good healthcare will continue to be eroded.

c5 rv
10-10-09, 08:47 PM
What, isn't the prize for whirled peas?

dkozloski
10-10-09, 08:53 PM
Somebody needs to read their history books. Carter brokered peace between Egypt and Israel, which still stands to this day.

Getting back on topic, Obama in no way deserves this award. Like somebody said earlier, I think giving it him was an extremely petty, politically motivated statement to show how much they hated George W.
Carter initiated the piss process in the Middle East.

orconn
10-10-09, 09:25 PM
I think there are many ways in which the Carter and the Obama administrations are similar ....... naive and inexperience POTI whose regimes were taken over by incompetent and corrupt appointees. Both Presidents lack the will or the gumption .... or just the flat out ability to bring their minions in line. However, the Treaty brokered by Carter between Egypt and Israel was major accomplishment and has if nothing else prevented Egypt from being used as a pawn by other Middle East regimes in their war against Israel. And in my opinion was an accomplishment worthy of the Nobel Peace Prize.

Destroyer
10-10-09, 11:55 PM
Barak Obama, by his own account, was a very mediocre student in high school. He was able to attend Punaho School in Honolulu, one of the finest college prep schools west of the Mississippi, as a token black on scholarship ..... neither his family's finances nor his academic achievements to that point would have made Punaho possible if he were white. His admission to Occidental College, given his mediocre high school performance, made possible again by "affirmative action" and again his academic performance was less than outstanding. Let's face it a mediocre white student from a minor California liberal arts college with only mediocre academic credentials wouldn't have been admitted as a transfer student to Columbia University (one of the most competitive academic institutions in the U.S.). We are told that his grades improved at Columbia, but with the two tier grading system at Ivy League schools, it's hard to know what he really accomplished academically there. It is well know that black and chicano applicants to Harvard Law School are given special consideration as to their academic grades and LSAT scores to allow them entrance when whites with similar scores would be denied acceptance. Apparently while receiving the honor of the editorship of the Harvard Law Review Obama never had an article published in the Review. Upon graduation from law school he chose to be a community organzer rather than spend the 60 to 80 hour work week required of young associates at top U.S. law firms. His "ad Hoc" professorship at University of Chicago was not a regular paid teaching position but rather voluntary part time position. Apparently Obama never attended faculty meetings while teaching at U. of Chicago. His election to the Illinois State House was again a bit of a fluck as was his election to the U.S. Senate. And let's face it without the meltdown in the U.S> economy in the months before election day, Obama most probably have not been elected .... inspite of the Bush's extreme unpopularity affecting Mc Cain's campaign. All of this is part of the public record; Obama's good luck is very obvious. I hope it continues to work for our national good in the years of his administration .... Lord knows we need it!I pretty much agree with everything you have to say here. These are things that everybody knows but nobody wants to talk about.........but they should. Recently I went to see about getting a government contract and was told that as a white male I was last in line. If I was a minority I get preferential treatment, if I was female I'd get the same. If I was a minority woman............that would be the shit!. Not fair, I say. I'm all for being "politically incorrect" in here but fear of saying what everybody thinks and knows will prevent that. :want::canttalk:

dkozloski
10-11-09, 12:05 AM
I think there are many ways in which the Carter and the Obama administrations are similar ....... naive and inexperience POTI whose regimes were taken over by incompetent and corrupt appointees. Both Presidents lack the will or the gumption .... or just the flat out ability to bring their minions in line. However, the Treaty brokered by Carter between Egypt and Israel was major accomplishment and has if nothing else prevented Egypt from being used as a pawn by other Middle East regimes in their war against Israel. And in my opinion was an accomplishment worthy of the Nobel Peace Prize.
Anwar Sadat wound up dead over it and Egypt was expelled from the Arab Union. It's all in the eye of the beholder.

Aron9000
10-11-09, 12:30 AM
Anwar Sadat wound up dead over it and Egypt was expelled from the Arab Union. It's all in the eye of the beholder.

So what is your point exactly???? Sucks that Sadat got his brains blown out, but as the old saying goes "freedom is never free". Anyways, I think its pretty damn cool that there is a huge tourism industry in the Sianai pensulia. Guess what, most of the tourists are Jewish. Read this, its a really cool article about Egyptian and Israeli relations.

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/print/2009/03/sinai/teague-text

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dkozloski
10-11-09, 12:53 AM
So what is your point exactly???? Sucks that Sadat got his brains blown out, but as the old saying goes "freedom is never free". Anyways, I think its pretty damn cool that there is a huge tourism industry in the Sianai pensulia. Guess what, most of the tourists are Jewish. Read this, its a really cool article about Egyptian and Israeli relations.

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/print/2009/03/sinai/teague-text

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My point is that all is not sweetness and huggy buns between the Jews and the Egyptions. Sadat got shot and the Jewish tourists in the Sainai have been ongoing targets for terrorists.

orconn
10-11-09, 01:19 AM
Since when has a peace treaty or other cessation of armed conflict resulted in "sweetness and huggy buns." The best that can be hoped from peace treaties is that the belligerants cease armed agression against each other. The fact that Egypt and Israel have not been combatants during the years following the signing of the peace treaty, and have worked on grievances between the two countries via diplomatic channels speaks well for the desire on the part of the two countries to live in peace with each other. The assassination of Sadat and an Israeli prime minister merely show that there are extremist within the countries willing to commit terrorist acts. Unfortunately, most all countries today face this risk of violence.

Submariner409
10-11-09, 09:54 PM
This just in from CBS, NBC, ABC, and CNN..........







Obama wins Heisman Trophy after watching football game

orconn
10-11-09, 11:46 PM
Yes, it's true ...... and Obama has said "in all humbleness, I accept this honor not because I deserve it now but because I intend to play professional football when my terms as President are over and in all likelyhood I will deserve it then."

dkozloski
10-11-09, 11:51 PM
Yes, it's true ...... and Obama has said "in all humbleness, I accept this honor not because I deserve it now but because I intend to play professional football when my terms as President are over and in all likelyhood I will deserve it then."
The Heisman Trophy has nothing whatever to do with pro football. It's for college players.

RightTurn
10-11-09, 11:53 PM
^^ Buzzkill. :alchi:

orconn
10-12-09, 12:57 AM
^^^^ Well, now we know that Obama doesn't know much about football either!

dkozloski
10-12-09, 01:23 AM
^^^^ Well, now we know that Obama doesn't know much about football either!
He's one of those pansy hoops guys.

DILLIGAF
10-13-09, 08:18 PM
Point is still IMO,Carter was a tool too!Have some Billy beer if you disagree!Embarrasment of an administration just like this one.

Aron9000
10-13-09, 11:23 PM
Point is still IMO,Carter was a tool too!Have some Billy beer if you disagree!Embarrasment of an administration just like this one.


I will agree that his Presidency was pretty much a failure except for the Camp David Accords. Its still cool that he has kind of risen above that though, his failed presidency is part of his legacy, it doesn't define the man IMO.

dkozloski
10-13-09, 11:29 PM
I will agree that his Presidency was pretty much a failure except for the Camp David Accords. Its still cool that he has kind of risen above that though, his failed presidency is part of his legacy, it doesn't define the man IMO.
I agree. His legacy is more defined by him opening his big mouth and trying to undercut the sitting president. He has no respect for the office he held himself.

Ranger
10-13-09, 11:38 PM
I lost all respect for him when he granted draft dodgers amnesty.

skozzy
10-15-09, 02:49 PM
The assassination of Sadat and an Israeli prime minister merely show that there are extremist within the countries willing to commit terrorist acts. Unfortunately, most all countries today face this risk of violence.

Before I call you out. On this epic failure maybe you can clarify. That statement.

As it stands Sadat was killed after a Fatwa was issued to kill him. Last I checked that was issued by Omar Abdel-Rahman (not your typical Jewish guy)

But then again I could be reading your post wrong. Ok sorry I took a few more minutes to absorb your post. I see what your getting at. Ignore my post!

As for Carter...sorry guys that A**hole is bat shit crazy! Should do the world a favor and next time paling around with Hamas loose his passport and STAY THERE!

orconn
10-15-09, 03:54 PM
Anwar Sadat was assassinated by an Egyptian Muslim extremist. Yitzak Rabin was assassinated by a Jewish conservative radical. Both were assassinations were considered to be acts of radical groups opposing the peace initiative in the Middle East.

dkozloski
10-15-09, 08:30 PM
Anwar Sadat was assassinated by an Egyptian Muslim extremist. Yitzak Rabin was assassinated by a Jewish conservative radical. Both were assassinations were considered to be acts of radical groups opposing the peace initiative in the Middle East.
On that basis it's intuitively obvious to the most casual observer that it was all Carter's fault. If Carter had kept his nose out of other people's business it never would have happened.