: pc computer problems



MrSmith
07-29-04, 04:06 PM
what does it mean to have a bunch of

Window XP Hotfix (SP2) in my control panel on my PC

my computer is acting real slow and I can barley get a sentence in before I have 3 popups. does these window xps have anything to do with a low computer.

I got about 19 or 20 Window XP Hotfix (SP2) with different 6 digit numbers behind them.

for example:
Window XP Hotfix (SP2)Q329170
Window XP Hotfix (SP2)Q810090
Window XP Hotfix (SP2)Q810833

Just bunches of them like that.

are they causing any problems?

caddyshack24
07-29-04, 04:38 PM
No, those are a good thing. Actual they are 'Service Packs' from Microsoft. It appears you have auto-update running (also good).. so, Those Service Packs keep your computer secured.. Somebody finds a bug in Windows, starts relasing virus's.. MS will patch the hole.

Chances are those popups are from Windows Messenging Service, Why this was enabled by default is beyond me. Very Dumb. It's things like "Increase penis size by 30%" and "Cheap medications" .. type windows? Give me a minute and i'll find a link to disable that for ya.

For the computer running slow, I recommend doing the following:
First, Clean out your History / Cache folder in Internet Explorer.
Tools -> Internet Options .. 'delete files', 'clear history'

Next, go ahead and un-install any pograms you don't need or want anymore.
Now, goto 'Start' -> 'Programs' -> 'accessories' -> 'System Tools' -> 'Disk cleanup' .. let it runs it's magic, then go back to 'System Tools' and run 'Disk Defragmenter' .. It will re-arrange your files so the are read off the Hard Drive faster.. *sigh, whew* alright Alright.. Noooow..
Head over to http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ for a free virus scan. That should get you up to speed.

caddyshack24
07-29-04, 04:52 PM
Here's a link on howto disable the Messenging Service:
http://www.uwm.edu/IMT/purchase/itpsfaqs/msgservice.html or, run this from an admin account. http://www.grc.com/files/shootthemessenger.exe

Some other programs I recommend are: (all are Free)
Adaware.. cleans out spyware, tracking cookies.. and other misc.
http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html?part=69274&subj=dlpage&tag=button

Zone alarm Personal Firewall: Keeps people from connecting in & out of your computer
http://download.zonelabs.com/bin/free/1012_zl/zlsSetup_51_011.exe

Registry Mechanic: Not Free, It's a trial Version.. will signifgantly improve computer speed.
http://www.winguides.com/software/download.php?id=42

To get a port scan (Open doors into your computer)
http://www.sygatetech.com/ (firewall will close them up)

Plenty more.. beh, I'm developing carpel tunnel over here.. :bighead:

rainingzigzags
07-30-04, 12:06 AM
also i would try to defrag the hd sometimes that helps

tru504187211
07-30-04, 12:43 AM
Registry Mechanic: Not Free, It's a trial Version.. will signifgantly improve computer speed.
http://www.winguides.com/software/download.php?id=42



Ordinary computer users using registry cleaners...frightens me! Hopefully thats not an easy program to mess anything up...

caddyshack24
07-30-04, 01:03 AM
loll yeah man, you know it.. pretty straight-forward though.. only a few buttons to press. gotta love MS Windows :bouncy:

Whats your major again tru? CS / EE ??

Ralph
07-30-04, 03:51 AM
Here's a link on howto disable the Messenging Service:
http://www.uwm.edu/IMT/purchase/itpsfaqs/msgservice.html or, run this from an admin account. http://www.grc.com/files/shootthemessenger.exe

Some other programs I recommend are: (all are Free)
Adaware.. cleans out spyware, tracking cookies.. and other misc.
http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html?part=69274&subj=dlpage&tag=button

Zone alarm Personal Firewall: Keeps people from connecting in & out of your computer
http://download.zonelabs.com/bin/free/1012_zl/zlsSetup_51_011.exe

Registry Mechanic: Not Free, It's a trial Version.. will signifgantly improve computer speed.
http://www.winguides.com/software/download.php?id=42

To get a port scan (Open doors into your computer)
http://www.sygatetech.com/ (firewall will close them up)

Plenty more.. beh, I'm developing carpel tunnel over here.. :bighead:
You seem to know your stuff, but how the hell do I get rid of the "Alexa tool bar." (spyware) It alwaysputs a bunch of casino stuff on my desktop, etc, and slows it up too much. Yes, I use trend micro AND Spybot which have always cleared up ANY spyware and even caught a virus or two. I've even tried Spyware Blaster versions 3.2 and 2.6.1, as well as Spy Hunter, Spy Doctor and one other that acts like a firewall, all from download.com. This has all been in the last few days. I'm supposed to get in touch with my computer guy tomorrow because he is fixing another with the same prob. Will update....

caddyshack24
07-30-04, 06:56 AM
"It alwaysputs a bunch of casino stuff on my desktop" <-- LOL
People will click anything to get into a porn site, just kidding.

They dont detect or consider it spyware because it has an EULA and an opt-out option, or thats what im gathering. Here are some removal instructions:

All versions of the Alexa Toolbar have an uninstall feature. It will be located in different places, depending on which version you have installed. Follow these removal instructions to uninstall them:

To uninstall Alexa Toolbar 6, click on the small down arrow by the Alexa logo on the toolbar and select Uninstall Alexa from the drop down menu.

To uninstall Alexa Toolbar 5, click on the round "?" button on the Alexa toolbar and select Uninstall Alexa from the drop down menu.

To uninstall Alexa Toolbar 4, open the Alexa sidebar, click on Help, and select Uninstall Alexa.

Later, Eddie

tru504187211
07-30-04, 09:24 AM
Whats your major again tru? CS / EE ??

CS...but that alone cannot get one a job...so I am forced to get certifications.

Ralph
07-30-04, 01:23 PM
"It alwaysputs a bunch of casino stuff on my desktop" <-- LOL
People will click anything to get into a porn site, just kidding.

They dont detect or consider it spyware because it has an EULA and an opt-out option, or thats what im gathering. Here are some removal instructions:

All versions of the Alexa Toolbar have an uninstall feature. It will be located in different places, depending on which version you have installed. Follow these removal instructions to uninstall them:

To uninstall Alexa Toolbar 6, click on the small down arrow by the Alexa logo on the toolbar and select Uninstall Alexa from the drop down menu.

To uninstall Alexa Toolbar 5, click on the round "?" button on the Alexa toolbar and select Uninstall Alexa from the drop down menu.

To uninstall Alexa Toolbar 4, open the Alexa sidebar, click on Help, and select Uninstall Alexa.

Later, Eddie

It's the price I pay to get fresh Natty pics. :p I know a safe site now to get them, and I'll stick to it. ;)

I've tried manually de-instaling and the tool bar just asks you to enter a verification number that matches one they show to "verify that I am a human." At first this seemed dangerous to me and I didn't do it because I didn't trust it as it might crash everything or who knows what!? Yesterday I got fed up enough and thought I would try it but it wouldn't let me enter the number!! I think for some nasty things like this you have to take your harddrive into a technician. I should be able to get a hold of my tech today sometime hopefully, but thanks for your advice.

Is there any known program like Adaware, etc. that can kill this thing from hell!?

daacon
07-30-04, 03:58 PM
Is there any known program like Adaware, etc. that can kill this thing from hell!?

Just did some quick research - appears to be nasty and moslty harmless. (has like a full page of Registry Mods ....ahhhhhhhh)

Here are a couple links

http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/spyware.alexa.html

http://www.spyany.com/program/article_ad_rm_Alexa_ToolBar.html

http://www.2-spyware.com/parasite-alexa-toolbar.html (this one had a uninstall tool)

Good Luck ;-)

Ralph
07-30-04, 04:01 PM
Just did some quick research - appears to be nasty and moslty harmless. (has like a full page of Registry Mods ....ahhhhhhhh)

Here are a couple links

http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/spyware.alexa.html

http://www.spyany.com/program/article_ad_rm_Alexa_ToolBar.html

http://www.2-spyware.com/parasite-alexa-toolbar.html (this one had a uninstall tool)

Good Luck ;-)
Thanks!! If this works I'm sending you the cash I promised my computer friend!

maydog
07-30-04, 04:33 PM
Jus scan your computer with :

Ad-Aware from lavasoft.com
and Spybot Search and destroy.

That will clean up all that nagging stuff that gets installed with the help of IE.

daacon
07-30-04, 04:39 PM
Thanks!! If this works I'm sending you the cash I promised my computer friend!

If it works send the cash to Sal ...He'll put it to good use (not that a Corona wouldn't be good use hahahah)

caddyshack24
07-30-04, 05:33 PM
LMAO @ Ralph with the fresh Natty pics !

"CS...but that alone cannot get one a job...so I am forced to get certifications."
Right Right, they want those certs! they demand those certs!
I was going to become a CS, about then i started noticing so was everybody else, that and all the outsourcing they do now-a-days. Decided, well.. decided nothing.. still not sure what i'm going to college for. Linux man, Linux will be the future in the IT field. http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ is pretty cool :D

Expect a PM from me in the week or so ;)

daacon
07-30-04, 05:56 PM
Linux man, Linux will be the future in the IT field. ...is pretty cool :D

Be good to know Linux. ( easy to tranfer Unix knowledge to most variants - Unix does nothing for typing skills hahah sar -d 2 10 , ls -rtal ) I have recently seen a slew of "Big Iron" (HP-UX, Sun Solaris, IBM-AIX, etc..database servers) Traded in for various flavors of Linux , just makes economic sense ......

Linux still has some quirks ( I got a reproducable one now where a rm command issued from a ssh telnet client on a cluster disk array causes the server to crash - but is it Linux or is the Hardware , the configuration ) IMHO not quite as stable as some of the big boys , but if you don't need 24/7/365 - a viable and growing alternative.

Still have issue with alot of third party apps (that use the big db back ends) - but that is changing, slowly....

I am a techie at heart - but if I were starting over in this buisness , I would consider Project Management. Very hard to find a good one , always in demand worth their weight in gold.

Good luck........dy

Ralph
07-31-04, 02:16 AM
Just did some quick research - appears to be nasty and moslty harmless. (has like a full page of Registry Mods ....ahhhhhhhh)

Here are a couple links

http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/spyware.alexa.html

http://www.spyany.com/program/article_ad_rm_Alexa_ToolBar.html

http://www.2-spyware.com/parasite-alexa-toolbar.html (this one had a uninstall tool)

Good Luck ;-)

Thanks for trying, but I still got it. I downloaded the second one called "No Adaware" and although they want $29.95 U.S. it told me that I had a worm and "W32/Noala" Apparently this software would kill it but I want my local computer friend to get more of a crack at it before I pay this. He is baffled and even has a friend at Microsoft he checked with! He said it should easily de-install when you right click it and enter the code (to verify I am a human :p ) At least it is not a serious thing to have.

What suprises me is that AdAware and Spybot don't recognize this thing so maybe it's time to call a Priest? ;) What I would really like is to know about another free program like the previously mentioned that would eliminate it on the computer w/o me having to take it in. I think I tried every one from download.com.

daacon
07-31-04, 09:00 AM
so maybe it's time to call a Priest? ;)

I would recommend a Old Priest and a Young Priest...the power of Windoze compells you !!!

On the first link I sent you there was another link to http://pages.alexa.com/exec/faqsidos/help/index.html?index=38

Did you try that one ? They also mention a program C:\Program Files\Alexa Toolbar\uninstall.exe. DId you try that ? After the de-install did you manually remove (or rename) the files
C:\WINNT\System32\AlxRes.dll
C:\WINNT\System32\AlxTB1.dll
And then reboot ?

Try Start / Run / msconfig and look in your startup tab (I am assuming you ware running XP Home or Pro) see if anything looks suspecious (if you don't know what the program is try a google search on the file name).

If that fails - and you are not catholic .....how much crap you got on that 'puter ? Another rule of thumb is back it up (at leat your important data) and rebuild the machine from scratch every 18 months to clear out all that "evil" stuff. This is not for the faint of heart and does indeed take time. (just make sure you backup whatever is important).

Ahhhhhh technology ......

Ralph
08-02-04, 03:19 PM
I would recommend a Old Priest and a Young Priest...the power of Windoze compells you !!!

On the first link I sent you there was another link to http://pages.alexa.com/exec/faqsidos/help/index.html?index=38

Did you try that one ? They also mention a program C:\Program Files\Alexa Toolbar\uninstall.exe. DId you try that ? After the de-install did you manually remove (or rename) the files
C:\WINNT\System32\AlxRes.dll
C:\WINNT\System32\AlxTB1.dll
And then reboot ?

Try Start / Run / msconfig and look in your startup tab (I am assuming you ware running XP Home or Pro) see if anything looks suspecious (if you don't know what the program is try a google search on the file name).

If that fails - and you are not catholic .....how much crap you got on that 'puter ? Another rule of thumb is back it up (at leat your important data) and rebuild the machine from scratch every 18 months to clear out all that "evil" stuff. This is not for the faint of heart and does indeed take time. (just make sure you backup whatever is important).

Ahhhhhh technology ......

I'm running windows 98, and I will advise when this thing is taken care of. Nothing shows up suspicious on the programs, which is frustrating. I'm starting to wonder if this thing is Alexa! It is taking too much from the resources, memory of this pc. My computer bud should call tomorrow, or when he knows what to do.