: V2 Tranny fluid check?



chopmeat
09-17-09, 08:50 PM
How? where? Who? Huh???
Lol.
What do you do to check it???

chopmeat
09-19-09, 07:50 PM
Geez, over 110 views and not 1 comment???
No dipstick?
Check from the transmission underneath?

nradcad
09-19-09, 07:53 PM
have you searched yet?

SlvrBullIT
09-19-09, 07:57 PM
Most likely temp will be the best indicator with no dipstick available....... I also looked at the plug on the fill hole to the pan to see what level it was at.

chopmeat
09-19-09, 08:37 PM
Yeah, I did many searches and I see in the CTS V Book that it is very difficult to check and can only be done from the bottom at the tranny I assume.

tedcmiller
09-19-09, 08:51 PM
According to the owner's manual, there is no need to check the automatic transmission fluid level if there is no loss of fluid. This information can be found on page 5-29 of the owner's manual. Unlike previous automatic transmissions, there is no dip stick provided on the automatic transmission of the 2009 CTS-V. As a result, checking the fluid level and/or condition envolves having the transmission in a specific temperature range, the car running and in Park, raising the car and then removing a plug from the bottom of the transmission case.. As a result, the owner's manual suggest that the automatic transmission fluid level be checked only by the dealer. For those who can do everything for themselves, the following is extracted from the factory service manual.

The car must be raised and the fluid level/condition checked by removing the plug from the bottom of the transmission pan. In theory, if the fluid level is correct, only a few drops of fluid will come out of the plug hole. If too much fluid is present, let is run out until the flow stops. If too little fluid, add appropriate fluid until it starts to overflow. In any case, the fluid must be in the designated temperature range, the car running, and the transmission in Park. Doing this check while not meeting these conditions will result in an incorrect check. Replacing the fluid is even more complex and is not discussed here.

nynd
09-19-09, 08:57 PM
Easiest thing is measure what comes out at a stable temp and then refill with the same amount. The new tranny fluids seem to have a property of expanding with increasing temperature.

chopmeat
09-19-09, 09:48 PM
Yeah I saw that in the manual before.
Sounds crazy.
I'm going to the Vette Doctors and they'll check and change everything.
I bought that donut that W4me sells that goes behind the SC pulley to stop the noise and the stock spring damaging the pulley stalk.

musclesbmf
09-21-09, 11:23 AM
tedcmiller:

Would you mind posting up the service procedure for replacing the auto tranny fluid for us DIY guys, since it is said to be a "complex" procedure?

thanks,
Mark

tedcmiller
09-21-09, 12:12 PM
Sorry, it is several pages in the factory service manual and envolves removing a fitting from the top of the transmission, installing a hose and pump to remove the old fluid, etc. If you are really into "doing it yourself," I would suggest that you invest in the factory service manual offered by Helm.

musclesbmf
09-21-09, 12:50 PM
ok... thanks.

musclesbmf
09-21-09, 01:02 PM
As posted on corvette forum (I love that place).

Transmission Fluid Fill Procedure
Notice: Use Dexron VI transmission fluid only. Failure to use the proper fluid may result in transmission internal damage.

Perform this procedure for vehicles with transmissions that are not equipped with a fill tube and dipstick. Based on accessibility, transmission fluid may be added through the fluid fill tube plug assembly (1) hole or through the oil level check plug (2) hole in the bottom of the transmission fluid pan.

Tools Required
• DT 47784 Transmission Fluid Fill Pan Adapter

• J 45096 Transmission Oil Cooling System Flush and Flow Test Tool

• J 45096-30 Transmission Cooler Flush Adapters

• J 45096-40 Transflow Oil Fill Adapter

Fill Tube Plug Method




Notice: Before removing the transmission fluid fill tube plug assembly, thoroughly clean around the plug to prevent dirt or contaminants from entering the transmission during plug removal. Use compressed air to dislodge any caked dirt that may be stuck on and around the plug area. Use a mirror to confirm the area is free of dirt before removing the plug. Failure to clean around the plug may result in transmission contamination.

Clean around the fluid fill tube plug.



Important: It may be necessary to use a long pair of 90 degree needle nose pliers to lift the plunger and remove the plug assembly.

Unlock the fill tube plug by lifting the plunger. Once the plunger is lifted, remove the entire plug assembly.
Determine the approximate amount of fluid needed to fill the transmission, based on the repair performed. Refer to Fluid Capacity Specifications . To avoid an under-fill condition, slightly overfill the transmission, and then allow the extra fluid to drain during the fluid checking procedure.



Important: The J 45096 is being utilized as a convenient method to pump the fluid into the bottom pan. A suitable hand pump may also be used instead. When using the J 45096 , monitor the display panel to determine the amount of fluid being pumped from the tool supply tank into the transmission.

Using the J 45096-40 (1) and the J 45096 (2), or a suitable hand pump, add transmission fluid through the fill tube plug opening. Refer to Transmission Fluid Cooler Flushing and Flow Test for complete J 45096 operating instructions. Use the FLOW position on the main function switch to pump the fluid.
Check the fluid level. Refer to Transmission Fluid Check .
Check Plug Method




Important: When the oil level check plug is removed with the engine OFF, transmission fluid may drain from the hole.

Remove the oil level check plug.



Install the DT 47784 (1) and, if necessary, one adapter from the J 45096-30 (2).
Determine the approximate amount of fluid needed to fill the transmission, based on the repair performed. Refer to Fluid Capacity Specifications . To avoid an under-fill condition, slightly overfill the transmission, and then allow the extra fluid to drain during the fluid checking procedure.
Important: The J 45096 is being utilized as a convenient method to pump the fluid into the bottom pan. A suitable hand pump may also be used instead. When using the J 45096 , monitor the display panel to determine the amount of fluid being pumped from the tool supply tank into the transmission.

Using the DT 47784 (1), J 45096-30 (2), and the J 45096 (3), add transmission fluid through the check plug hole. Refer to Transmission Fluid Cooler Flushing and Flow Test for complete J 45096 operating instructions. Use the FLOW position on the main function switch to pump the fluid.
Important: Failure to start the engine and move the shift lever through the gear ranges before removing the DT 47784 and J 45096-30 from the bottom pan will result in an excess amount of fluid draining from the check plug hole. This may lead to an under-fill condition.

Start the engine and move the shift lever through each gear range. Pause for at least 3 seconds in each gear range.
With the engine still running, remove the DT 47784 (1), J 45096-30 (2), and J 45096 (3) and then check the fluid level. Refer to Transmission Fluid Check .
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chopmeat
09-21-09, 08:54 PM
That is absolutely the funniest darn thing I ever read!
Lol
I think it's just easier to hold a hand saw at the back of my neck and proceed to cut until the "said" head drops off????
lol

Domsz06
12-08-10, 08:29 AM
so what is the capacity? anyone know that? When you google you get all kinds of differences since all the different cars use different convertors...

markrn
12-08-10, 06:44 PM
Try this :thumbsup: http://www.amsoil.com/mygarage/vehiclelookup.aspx?url2=2011+CADILLAC+CTS+W

Tim1313
07-18-12, 07:36 AM
Anyone know where and which plug is the check hole on our auto transmission?

dwbowen
01-17-13, 05:20 PM
Yep, the check stand pipe hole is towards the back of the pan and the fill is toward to front on the right side of the transmission about half way up.

cruiser68
01-17-13, 05:38 PM
Yep, the check stand pipe hole is towards the back of the pan and the fill is toward to front on the right side of the transmission about half way up.

+1 The overflow/check is the bolt in the back of the pan. The fill is tough to find but above the pan on the front pass side.

This is how I fill......on a lift :)

After draining and filter change, with fill bolt removed, pump fluid in until it overflows the check bolt hole. Start car and get trans temp up to 130-ish. I do this while leaving the check bolt and fill plug removed. Make sure you cycle through the gears while it is warming up. The with it running in park, proceed to burn the shit out of the back of your hand on the headers while filling the pan until it flows out the check bolt hole. Put the check bolt in and put the fill plug in and done.

Total PITA!!!!

LJMartin
01-17-13, 11:35 PM
My 94 BMW 740 il was like the above. You had to start the car and use a temp proble to determine the exact temp. When filling you had to add fluid while running the car and checking the temp of the fluid and running it through the gears. Think they shoud put back the dip sticks for the tranny and oil for those of us smart enough to use them, while maintaining the sensors for those that don't have a clue.

pat2t2f
01-18-13, 06:47 AM
My friend has a jaguar and the engine is totally sealed. You can not check the oil or tranny fluid. There are no dipsticks.