2006 Deville spyshots (http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=7350&sid=178&n=156)

Looks pretty sweet, very Sixteen-ish. Interior is nice looking too.

hehehe...that is what im talking about. although the FWD is something that needs to change.

hehehe...that is what im talking about. although the FWD is something that needs to change.

Exactly, not so much for the improved driving dynamics, but so they can kick up the horsepower. I think 300hp is about the limit for FWD. Can't wait to see it without the camo.

Exactly, not so much for the improved driving dynamics, but so they can kick up the horsepower. I think 300hp is about the limit for FWD. Can't wait to see it without the camo.

they can make a front driver handle more power i think, but it will be expensive and a little impracticle to do so at this point, therefore, it is not worth the effort, time and money as of yet. what with the other cars cadillac has devoted their time and money to thus far.

OMG I can finally tell the interior is much better.....and it looks like the Deville will get its own steering wheel.....wow....no more cheap plastic/rubber doors. I like what I see

Cant wait to see it with Vogues....Vinyl top and chrome fender flares.....oh yea gold trim too :)
http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/8191_image.jpg

The body outline looks very simmular to the current DTS/DHS

From the interior, i think we can tell what Cadillac is going to try and compete with ... :d Price wise too...


Lets hope the new design turns out well... :hide:

i can tell that the head light treatment has the sixteen look to it, which i think is cool as hell. the rest does look like the current model, but i think it will turn out to be a nice ride altogether. (exept for the FWD).

Does anyone notice that red champaigne bottle...LOL....feeding into the dash.

It adds an extra touch of sophistication. LOL

Looks like a fire extinguisher to me...

whats the point of the laptop and fire extinguisher? if we assume that the mechanicals are the same, what would they need that for? in case the new dash catches on fire i guess...

would not the laptop be there to link with caddy to download information, or maybe it there to play games

i just wonder what they need to monitor, if thats the same N* they have had in the car for the last ~10 years

i just wonder what they need to monitor, if thats the same N* they have had in the car for the last ~10 years

They are recording the amount of radiation the new dash emits......haha....on a serious note...maybe sound levels????

I dont know if thats a fire extingusire or not?????? Maybe the General cant trust himself anymore???

Or its the first car to come standard with one.....just incase.......In car extinguise system......I like the idea of Halon better.haha

It may just be part of their Standard Operating Procedures to equip new test cars like that. Gotta make sure you meet the ISO guidelines ya know... :)

Does anyone notice that red champaigne bottle...LOL....feeding into the dash.

I think they accidentally left it in my neigborhood and someone has already put NOS on it.

Steve B.

That laptop is there to read emission levels, gauge engine hp and tq output, and make any fine tuning tweaks to the engine management system (including transmission shift points).

In today's day and age, it's actually no big deal to see a laptop with a prototype or pre-production vehicle from any manufacturer. They've been doing that for probably 5 years at least.

If it has computer controlled engine management (or by now the entire vehicle is computer controlled), the engineers will use a laptop for on the test runs.

Very accurate way to engineer a car.

I don't see a place for vertical taillights. For shame.

Other than that I guess it will look good. I guess. Can't really tell.

Thanks for posting the link! Great! It's nice to get some idea of what the new DeVille is going to look like...

That laptop is there to read emission levels, gauge engine hp and tq output, and make any fine tuning tweaks to the engine management system (including transmission shift points).

In today's day and age, it's actually no big deal to see a laptop with a prototype or pre-production vehicle from any manufacturer. They've been doing that for probably 5 years at least.

If it has computer controlled engine management (or by now the entire vehicle is computer controlled), the engineers will use a laptop for on the test runs.

Very accurate way to engineer a car.
I completely understand that on any "NEW" car but on a car that is having stricktly appearence mods done to it?????? Whats the need for tuning...maybe all models are getting the 300HP model with the 275 models gearing.....that would be great.

I completely understand that on any "NEW" car but on a car that is having stricktly appearence mods done to it?????? Whats the need for tuning...maybe all models are getting the 300HP model with the 275 models gearing.....that would be great.


The Northstar that is made today, while it may share the block, internals, and output is probably more finely tuned than one made just a couple years ago. Even if performance is the same, through fine tuning even the slightest aspects of an engine (say, stoiciometry of the oxygen on the compression cycle in cylinder 2), they can alter and improve fuel economy and emissions. Also, don't forget, the measurements for Stabilitrak are calculated based on the G-forces of what the car is doing, so maybe with the updated design the Stabilitrak system needs to be reprogramed.

There's just so many things a premium luxury car does these days that are computer controlled that any changes to the car needs updating in software.

Sort of the same thing as your anti-virus computer protection. When it reaches a certain age, it becomes obsolete to comply with the newest viruses. So you update your computer with the newest software. Same thing goes for cars in this class.

Maybe they are re-engineering and stuffing the new 320hp Northstar (used on the Sigma RWD cars) in there. That engine is much more advanced than the 300-275hp versions of the Northstar. Silky smooth VVT with that broad powerband... Mmm... :)
It would be a shame for them to saddle the DeVille with the old technology again. Sure, it's gauranteed to get it in 2008 when the DeVille is 'Sigma-ized', but why not give the old FWD platform a last hoorah on it's way out?

not real sure, but i would imagine cadillac using the standard 300 hp n* until the conversion to RWD. reason being that they have poured alot of cash into the sigma based cars as it is, and if they decided to make the 320 version n* in the FWD, they will have to invest that much more into a car that will be gone in 3 years anways. the cash would have to be on the tranny AND engine changes to accomidate the FWD setup. something i dont feel caddy could afford what with their new lineup just getting underway.

not real sure, but i would imagine cadillac using the standard 300 hp n* until the conversion to RWD. reason being that they have poured alot of cash into the sigma based cars as it is, and if they decided to make the 320 version n* in the FWD, they will have to invest that much more into a car that will be gone in 3 years anways. the cash would have to be on the tranny AND engine changes to accomidate the FWD setup. something i dont feel caddy could afford what with their new lineup just getting underway.

Thats how I feel.......I think they will drop the 275hp Version all together and just offer the 300hp on all models........I also think the Base Deville should be droped...leaving DHS and DTS...........that would be nice if the DTS gets the lower gears from the 275hp powerplant.

but why not give the old FWD platform a last hoorah on it's way out?

my thoughts exactly , but i wonder if the the tranny will handle it(ive been told the 4t8** series is maxed at 300hp 300lbft)

Im thinking it will be 300hp with VVT just to gain fuel mileage and smoothness

i would like to see AWD as a option useing the rear suspesion and diffs from the buick rendevous , but theyd need to rehash the 4t8** series to make awd so that wont happen . :crying2:

http://info.detnews.com/dn/pix/sneakpeek/cars/06cadillacdts.jpg

http://info.detnews.com/dn/pix/sneakpeek/cars/06cadillacdts.jpg
i hope to God they do not move the license plate down to the bumper...is it just me, or does this picture remind anyone of a Monte Carlo???? :rolleyes2

reminds me off... the current deville. i sure hope the new one gets more drastic bodywork changes and that this is just the old bodywork slapped on the new car.

The 06 DeVille isn't going to be anything revolutionary. It is a placeholder for the 2008 DTS. All that I expect Cadillac to do is crispen the angles and add the new vertical light sets from the Sigma cars so it will match the rest of the Caddy lineup. The interior is going to be the most exciting change for 06, I am afraid.

It is the current DeVille with a new skin and upscale interior. Nothing more, nothing less.

Do you think they are currently working on the 08' now or coming soon????

It is probably in paper stages now......I would assume.

Well it looks like they might bring back the classy slit vertical taillights? Am I the only one brave enough to admit I see the Lincoln TC dash? Especially the strip of wood that runs the horozontal length of it.

I like the fact that it doesnt have a dopey looking steeringwheel, The current one looks like a fat slab of mortar with a smoothed top, like it was scraped from a trowel

I like the fact that it doesnt have a dopey looking steeringwheel, The current one looks like a fat slab of mortar with a smoothed top, like it was scraped from a trowel

Halarieas.....yet very true.

i hope to God they do not move the license plate down to the bumper...is it just me, or does this picture remind anyone of a Monte Carlo???? :rolleyes2

If it looks like a monte carlo, then the guys doing the camo are doing there jobs right.

If they do.....it will look like a Monte......the current one seems to have some cues from the rear end too......the taillights look similar..but not too close
http://members.shaw.ca/falconwhump/VacRep02/03-2003%20DE%20Signature%20Monte%20Carlo.jpg
http://billee007.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/03cad03d3bc.JPG

Courtosy of DetNews...
" While the cockpit is being updated and the sheet metal heavily revised, there will be few major changes under the skin because the current chassis and driveline are being carried over. An all-new Cadillac flagship sedan isn't expected until the end of the decade.
The 2006 DTS will maintain the same exterior dimensions and ample proportions of the current DeVille, but its nose and tail will get a significant makeover to bring the car in line stylistically with the rest of the Cadillac family.
That means the DTS will feature more angular lines and a prominent egg-crate grille to give it more of a family resemblance to the STS and CTS sedans."

i meant if they keep the vertical lights, move the lisnce plate to the bumper, and smooth out the trunk, then the back will be reminescnet of a monte carlo.

I'll be pretty pleased with the car I think, I hope they put headrests in the back seat.

whats the point of the laptop and fire extinguisher? if we assume that the mechanicals are the same, what would they need that for? in case the new dash catches on fire i guess...

You don't keep a laptop and fire extinguisher on your passenger seat?

I think the dash is moving in the right direction...

When is this thing getting reveiled? Same NY auto show as the STS? in March.

probably this month at detroit..

Well that could be but Cadillac has yet to post it on their website under "future models" :hmm:

It is not in the Detroit auto show http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?intAsvPageCurrent=1&section_id=31&article_id=8973

The '06 Deville is not listed as being unvieled at either LA or Detroit. Perhaps they'll show it at New York in April like they did the STS?

the other thing about that laptop ...

Remeber these cars controll everything from the computer and electronics rack ....with new bodys come new weights ,suspesion systems, gadgets ,new climte controll schemes for new features. More than anything i bet its in there to get the suspension dialed in for the cars new weight and to program the climate controll since the interior is diffrent ....and do it on the fly when they see a problem...The engine may need new programs for the new nose , the car may run hotter or colder with a new grille , so tuneing the engine around its new nose might be an idea. The airbox might be diffrent too. Then with new weight the tranny like one of us said will need its shift points redone...

Maybe this time theyll get it right as far as the life of the struts

Maybe this time theyll get it right as far as the life of the struts

:histeric: :histeric:

mine went 120,000 not to bad.:annoyed:

Stupid Question:

Did I read that Cadillac was reintroducing a rear-wheel drive Deville in '08? Does this mean Caddy wants to provide a vehicle easier to stretch into a limo? After they discontinued the Fleetwood in the 90's, Caddy lost a huge share of the limo market to Lincoln. I've seen a few stretch Devilles around, but I think I remember reading the FWD limits how far they can strech the axle.

-Patrick

I found another pic, I like the color

After reading an article 2 days ago it said that the middle box on the grill is there to stay??? WTF it looks horrible....that article had to be wrong unless caddy is copiing the maxima?

Maybe it's an ultra bling-bling television screen.

The car behind it in the picture looks like a Deville too and it doesn't seem to have that box. Maybe it's for some kind of adaptive cruise control developement and hopefully will be gone for production.

probabaly provisions for the night vision system hideing behind a black peice of material so no one can figure out how there going to get the system to work beatter

is that picture of your car at the navy collage( I go to the bar right by there)




2006 Deville spyshots (http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=7350&sid=178&n=156)

Looks pretty sweet, very Sixteen-ish. Interior is nice looking too.

is that picture of your car at the navy collage( I go to the bar right by there)

Yes it is Dan, it's the only spot in the neighborhood where you can get a good picture of the bridge.

my wife and I hang out their in the summer just a great place to relax. may be I'll see you their when it get nice out!

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Yes it is Dan, it's the only spot in the neighborhood where you can get a good picture of the bridge.

I found this on cheersandgears.com. Apparently it was captured by a webcam at the Chicago Auto Show. I still don't like it.

check out the current deville section , someone posted a link ...i take back everything i said about it ...it looks great ...they just did ALOT to make it into the "bushmobile "

I've already seen it up close and personal, I haven't driven it or got inside it yet but, I like it alot it looks better in person than in the pics.

I sure did!!!!!!Does anyone notice that red champaigne bottle...LOL....feeding into the dash.

Does anyone notice that red champaigne bottle...LOL....feeding into the dash.

I thought it was an oxygen tank, who ever heard of a RED champagne bottle ?

What the world is the purpose of putting this cover on the DeVille. Even if they didnt want you to know it was a DeVille you'd know it was a DeVille.

http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/8190_image.jpg


http://www.gminsidenews.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10284/normal_DTS2.jpg

http://www.gminsidenews.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10284/normal_DTS3.jpg

http://www.gminsidenews.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10284/normal_DTS4.jpg

http://www.gminsidenews.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10284/normal_DTS5.jpg

http://www.gminsidenews.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10284/normal_DTS6.jpg

http://www.gminsidenews.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10284/normal_DTS7.jpg

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_chicago/dts/images/X06CA_DT021.jpg

How long they been putting the gear on the floor?

What the world is the purpose of putting this cover on the DeVille. Even if they didnt want you to know it was a DeVille you'd know it was a DeVille.

http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/8190_image.jpg


http://www.gminsidenews.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10284/normal_DTS2.jpg

http://www.gminsidenews.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10284/normal_DTS3.jpg

http://www.gminsidenews.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10284/normal_DTS4.jpg

http://www.gminsidenews.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10284/normal_DTS5.jpg

http://www.gminsidenews.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10284/normal_DTS6.jpg

http://www.gminsidenews.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10284/normal_DTS7.jpg

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_chicago/dts/images/X06CA_DT021.jpg

How long they been putting the gear on the floor?
since the 97 concourse ...but bench seat was always standard and you hadto get the concourse or later the DTS to get floor shift.....i sure hope they will make a bench seat optional or standard...I like floor shift ...but in these cars they need to feel like what they are ...the last of the american luxobarges

.....i sure hope they will make a bench seat optional or standard...I like floor shift ...but in these cars they need to feel like what they are ...the last of the american luxobarges

This doesnt look like its gonna be an option, looks like a straight change

http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_chicago/dts/images/X06CA_DT021.jpg

I think it should lose the vertical bars on the grill..

I agree with Sal..

To be honest, I haven't liked the Deville body style since they rounded out the back. The late 90s models had that higher back and looked a little more like the seville style. I liked that a bit more.

The bench seat is optional. The buckets and floor console are standard now. To get the bench, it has to be added as an option. The nice thing is that you can get perforated leather on the bench seats now, where before it was only available on the buckets, in the DTS package.

I was told there would be no more Devilles. Just the DTS version to hold costs down. Does anyone know for sure on this?

Not that it matters now since we just bought a new DHS thinking this was the last of them. My problem was simple.... the wife and I do not like the floor shift and did not want to take a chance with a DTS.

Our first Cadillac ever and we love it just like it is.

I think that DTS is the DeVille. They Just dropped the name DeVille to match all the other Cadillac cars. CTS, DTS, SRX, STS and XLR

You are correct in that the DTS is a Deville. I should have asked my question a little better or more clearly.

Are they going to make ONLY the DTS model or will they still offer the base model and the DHS model? I am a little confused on this point. :bonkers:

The DTS is not A Deville, it is THE Deville.

There will only be the DTS with options just like the CTS has levels and the STS. The reason for FWD is because, yes some, prefer it for winter driveing and such. Less wheel spin and better handling for it. Although with the new traction controls and such that isn't much of a problem. FWD is more predictable than RWD and I believe the new Caddys except for the DeVille/DTS have RWD/AWD. The Cadillac website has information about this car on there now.

I see the XV12 coming in the future soon, a 12 cylinder engine with the ability to accelerate like a beast when you want it or be as timid as a kitten when you want fuel economy of a 6 when half the cylinders shut down making it run like an inline 6.

The DTS is not A Deville, it is THE Deville.


My bad

The New 2006 DTS is a DeVille,It will be standard as a 5 passenger full-sized luxury Sedan with shifter in front center console,but can be optioned as a 6 passanger with shifter in steering colomn.for those that dont know DTS stands for (DeVille Touring Sedan) therefore it is technically a (DeVille) look it up and figure it out

I drove the 06 Deville on Friday, what a sweet ride. It handles great and looks great too.

I think 300hp is about the limit for FWD.

I got 400 on my front wheels in my 70 Eldo Hahahaha :cool:

http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/8191_image.jpg
That interior looks the same as my 2006 Impala rental car... :leaving:
http://www.chevrolet.com/i/06/pic/impala/photogallery/int_gallery01.jpg

That interior looks the same as my 2006 Impala rental car... :leaving:
http://www.chevrolet.com/i/06/pic/impala/photogallery/int_gallery01.jpg

That's because, despite better materials in the Caddy, things like the steering wheel, radio parts, etc. are shared--along with a design that also seems VERY much allike, between the two cars. Same with the new Buick Lucerne, which also looks like a fraternal twin.

Well, at least GM is finally trying with some high quality parts and fits--the overall styling still might have to wait a while.

Toyota and Lexus share bits and pieces of their interiors and no one ever complains.

Toyota and Lexus share bits and pieces of their interiors and no one ever complains.

Very true, but I think a few of the previous comments here just meant that the Caddy, for instance, seems to have a little too MANY parts and design details in common with the basic Chevy. None are bad, just maybe a little too "shared".

Toyota and Lexus share bits and pieces of their interiors and no one ever complains.

I've never bought a Toyota or Lexus, so I couldn't comment on that...

I just find it odd that GM is using the same parts on so many cars... I had an Impala for 2.5 months as a rental, and for the last month I've had a 2006 Monte Carlo... Same basic interior design again, layout of the vents, same shifter, same instrument panel, and same light switch... About the only way I can tell I'm not in the Impala anymore is that it says, "Monte Carlo" on the dash and the radio is different...

Having some cosmetic differences between cars is nice, it gives you more to choose from... Too similar though is a problem, why should I pay more for a vehicle when it's essentially the same thing as another???

Now some sharing is good, personally, I'm glad GM shares powertrains and other technology between the lines.... I just don't want to see the same interior in all the cars...

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Toyota and Lexus share bits and pieces of their interiors and no one ever complains.

But take a look at a Lexus interior...they are absolutely gorgeous with top notch materials and fit and finish. Anything in a Lexus that looks like wood, IS real wood. Anything that looks like leather IS fine grade leather. The toyota's do not use real wood, and they don't always use real leather.

I was disapointed in the interior quality of my CTS, especially after seeing a Lexus interior. I did drive an 06 DTS with the luxry III interior, and I thought GM did a fine job on that one. They used real wood trim, a very high quality leather, and things just looked like they were put together well. A big improvement over last years DeVille interior.