nynd
08-03-09, 09:01 PM
Anyone purchase a set? I've see some pics from previous posts that said they were for the Escalade as well and stuck out longer than the normal lugs.
| View Full Version : Wheel Locks nynd 08-03-09, 09:01 PM Anyone purchase a set? I've see some pics from previous posts that said they were for the Escalade as well and stuck out longer than the normal lugs. Gary Wells 08-03-09, 09:14 PM I've seen those same pictures, and those locks were butt ugly. I don't remember seeing pics of a good proper fitting set yet, so I will bet that those are the only available from GM for our cars. nynd 08-03-09, 10:05 PM LOL - thanks again Gary! Butt ugly is correct. Thats why I was seeing if there was anything else out there. I came across some Mcguard and some no names on Ebay - seaching wheel locks for Cts-v and the ones on ebay seem alright. Link below: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LOCKING-LUG-NUTS-WHEEL-LOCKS-CADILLAC-CTS-V-ESCALADE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em1 4QQhashZitem19b2bfbaefQQitemZ110373092079QQptZMoto rsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_5722wt_9 68 wait4me 08-03-09, 10:08 PM If someone wants your rims, no lock is going to save them. Napa sells kits that are as cheap as the sockets themselves that will just pull off any lock... That is what insurance is for. Besides.. If a set comes up missing, im sure we all would be able to track them down when someone goes to sell them..... chopmeat 08-03-09, 10:08 PM That was me! I gave those back and never got anything else.... tedcmiller 08-03-09, 11:53 PM The issue of wheel locks for the 2009 CTS-V has been discussed in many previous threads on this forum. I purchased a set of Gorilla wheel locks P/N 61641 because they are almost the same length as the stock lug nuts and incorporate a rotating sleeve that prevents using channel locks or oversized sockets to remove the wheel locks. They are the correct thread and diameter (which changed in 2009 when the CTS-V went to five lug nuts instead of six). These wheel lock can be seen on the Gorilla web site. All previous wheel locks provided by GM have been either Gorilla or McGard. Right now, all available McGard wheel locks of the correct thread and diameter are are too long. The correct lug nut size is 14x1.5 mm (a metric, not SAE size) with a conical seat. thatcoder 08-08-09, 11:12 PM The issue of wheel locks for the 2009 CTS-V has been discussed in many previous threads on this forum. I purchased a set of Gorilla wheel locks P/N 61641 because they are almost the same length as the stock lug nuts and incorporate a rotating sleeve that prevents using channel locks or oversized sockets to remove the wheel locks. They are the correct thread and diameter (which changed in 2009 when the CTS-V went to five lug nuts instead of six). These wheel lock can be seen on the Gorilla web site. All previous wheel locks provided by GM have been either Gorilla or McGard. Right now, all available McGard wheel locks of the correct thread and diameter are are too long. The correct lug nut size is 14x1.5 mm (a metric, not SAE size) with a conical seat. thanks for the info... ordered a set, and installed them. they work nice. MReiland 08-09-09, 08:24 AM I have had a variety of lock nuts on my rims before and finally gave up on that idea for similar reasons to WFM. (These weren't on a V but they were the lock nuts that have the random flower pattern key that fits into a mating pattern from I believe McGuard) In 2 different cases when I actually needed to get the rims off, the key broke. Now in the past I may not have been as careful as you all here and actually checked the torque at regular intervals, and stood by the guy when the tires were getting rotated and balanced to make sure he didn't use an air wrench and did it all by hand like I told him.... You get the point, all it takes is someone tightening then too tight and kiss the key good by, 1 I had to wait for a new key from FedEx, the other they had to, gulp, air-chissel off the get the wheel off. If you are going to use lock nuts of this type be aware of the drawbacks, and NEVER use a air wrench on them. If someone really wants anything they eventually are going to get them, or screw up your rim trying to get around the lock. If you park somewhere where rims are getting taken off your car on a semi-regular basis you may want a second car to go where ever that is with some nice steel rims and hub-caps IMHO..... Gary Wells 08-09-09, 09:52 AM I thought that the new TSB for torquing the wheel lug nuts down to 158 LBS was the new GM Sponsored & Approved wheel lock security system. zr1vet 08-09-09, 10:34 AM ^ lol tedcmiller 08-10-09, 01:08 AM Threre are no GM sponsored and approved wheel locks for the 2009 CTS-V. I hope Gary Wells was joking when he made his post. Gary Wells 08-10-09, 05:36 AM Threre are no GM sponsored and approved wheel locks for the 2009 CTS-V. I hope Gary Wells was joking when he made his post. I thought that it was funny, but then again I have a weird sense of humor. I am sure that lug nots torqued to 158 Lbs has stopped at lease a few more puny thief's. mik2718 08-10-09, 08:20 AM I thought that the new TSB for torquing the wheel lug nuts down to 158 LBS was the new GM Sponsored & Approved wheel lock security system. Well, I for one found this observation entertaining and humorous! Thanks, Gary. Greg* 08-10-09, 02:58 PM Threre are no GM sponsored and approved wheel locks for the 2009 CTS-V. GM part#17801711 will fit the 09' V despite what the GM Direct parts web site list. I have confimed this by using a Vin# off a 09' V. The GM catalog list this kit to include 4 locks and 20 nuts that are all chrome and are M14 X 1.5. tedcmiller 08-10-09, 03:20 PM OK. These are new and were not available when I first started looking. However, I wanted a set of wheel locks only. This P/N includes the extra nuts for the other lugs and costs a minimum of $110 even through mail order ( I saw one price of $170). Also, none of these entries provide any descriptive information (McGard, Gorilla, etc. or other key). I paid about $50 for a set of four Gorilla wheel locks locally, and I knew exactly what I was getting. thatcoder 08-10-09, 03:41 PM my gorilla locks were 17bux from amazon. tedcmiller 08-10-09, 09:44 PM To thatcoder: Do your "17bux" Gorilla wheel locks have a rotating ring to defeat the schemes described below? Note that Gorilla wheel locks use a different approach than McGard to encoding the wheel locks. I think (this is only an opinion) that the Gorilla key is less likely to break than the McGard. However, without the rotating rings provided by the kind that I use, it would be possible to drive a socket on to the Gorilla locks and remove them. Any type of wheel lock that is too long (that is, it sticks out from the wheel too far) like McGard or Gorilla (without the Gorilla rotating ring) could be removed using large channel locks. thatcoder 08-11-09, 04:48 PM To thatcoder: Do your "17bux" Gorilla wheel locks have a rotating ring to defeat the schemes described below? Note that Gorilla wheel locks use a different approach than McGard to encoding the wheel locks. I think (this is only an opinion) that the Gorilla key is less likely to break than the McGard. However, without the rotating rings provided by the kind that I use, it would be possible to drive a socket on to the Gorilla locks and remove them. Any type of wheel lock that is too long (that is, it sticks out from the wheel too far) like McGard or Gorilla (without the Gorilla rotating ring) could be removed using large channel locks. yes, it has a rotating barrel. nynd 08-11-09, 04:52 PM thatcoder- do you have the part number for the ones ordered? And do they stick out? thatcoder 08-11-09, 04:58 PM Summit Racing GOR-61641 $18.39 or Amazon Gorilla 61641 $17.37 No, they don't stick out. http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs145.snc1/5400_114603921389_622176389_2165947_1661258_n.jpg nynd 08-11-09, 05:22 PM Awesome! nynd 08-11-09, 05:23 PM Also - anyone find a good rim polish to bring out the shine in the polished wheels? I've trying mothers mag rim polish but doesn't have the get up I'm looking for.. Gary Wells 08-11-09, 07:39 PM I am pretty sure that those polished rims are clear-coated after polishing, and if that's the case, you need to be careful what polish that you use. Mother's mag polish is designed for bare aluminum, I believe. If those are clear-coated, I would not use anything other than a good clean & polish type polish / wax. Just my $.02 worth. HTH nynd 08-12-09, 12:39 AM Good point and point well taken. Anyone else know where you can purchase these Gorilla Locks? I sent Gorilla-Auto an email only to have it bounce back. Amazon won't ship to Canada... so.. still searching. Does Pep Boys or Autozone carry them? Thinking of making a trip to the lovely USA. thatcoder 08-12-09, 07:24 AM SummitRacing ships to canada. tedcmiller 08-12-09, 02:31 PM thatcoder, those wheel locks look exactly like mine. I guess you got a much better deal dollar-wise. nynd, Gary Wells is correct. Be careful what you do. It should be noted that polished rims are just that - polished, not chrome plated. The lug nuts provided with the rims are polished also. As a result, the chrome plated wheel locks look a little more shiny than the lug nuts. Your can see this in the photo provided by thatcoder. I doubt that you will ever be able to make a polished finish look like chrome plating. Regarding souces for these wheel locks, I bought mine at the local Discount Tire store. I did this because I knew that Gorilla does not do mail order. They only sell through other distributors. thatcoder indicates that SummitRacing ships to Canada. As far as AutoZone and Pep Boys are concerned, I haven't looked at AutoZone recently and Pep Boys only carried McGard the last time I looked. anonfrank 08-12-09, 08:55 PM Thanks for the tip. I live about 15 minutes from Summit Racing's main store, so guess where I'm going this weekend? An aside: do those of you who have the Gorilla locks still have the low-speed front wheel clicking? | |