: CTS-V or CLK 55 AMG?



ghost02
07-26-09, 08:30 PM
Hello all, long time listener first time caller.

I am in the position to get a CTS-V or a CLK 55 AMG. Which would you get? You have no other cars, and can not look at any other cars. Money is NOT an issue.
Your opinions are not the only deciding factor, I myself like the styling of the CTS as the MB looks to feminine.

commander112
07-26-09, 08:42 PM
Umm, ya, you are asking this question on the CTS-V forum. What kind of answer do you expect to get here?

whisler151
07-26-09, 08:49 PM
CLK55? :histeric:

Gary Wells
07-26-09, 09:17 PM
CTS-V, natch.

ghost02
07-26-09, 09:20 PM
I expect an honest answer. New player in the lot, BMW 750Li.

So

CTS-V CLK55 AMG or 750Li.

Honest opinions if you can, less bias the better.

SlvrBullIT
07-26-09, 09:26 PM
While AMG's and BMW 7 series are beautiful cars and have the typical European refinements the CTS-V has raw guttural brawn and the sleeper effect, that's just the surface quick and dirty answer I can give you.

vperl
07-26-09, 09:40 PM
you want to show off those cars badges, or have a better, sneaker car that delivers in every
category or a"euro snob " car. The V2 does not carry all the baggage of the " snob" cars, the cops for most part do not have a clue. Want to have great time get the V2.

neuronbob
07-26-09, 10:28 PM
The 750 is too big. Out for me. The CTS is a perfect-sized sedan for my needs.

For you, though, the decision depends on whether you want two doors or four. If you want to do in-law transport duty occasionally, as I did today (tight fit with the little guy's car seat, but MIL wanted to ride in the V), you need four doors. If you want to avoid this duty and leave that to the spouse, get the CLK55. :)

marktanner
07-26-09, 11:56 PM
The Caddy handles way better than the other two. It's faster,too, but the Merc can be easily modded to match it. But the Caddy can easily be modified, too. The Caddy does pretty much everything well, and will be more useful to more people, while being obscenely fast when you want it to be. Plus, you get a full warranty.

62Jeff
07-27-09, 12:05 AM
What do you want out of the car? That should guide your path.

Do you feel the CTS-V is the prettiest car on the road? How about the Mercedes? Would owning either of them, make you want to go out into the garage at night just to stare at it some more? Does either one of them make you eager to go in to work in the morning, just to have an excuse to drive it?

At the risk of getting flamed on a Caddy board, my feeling is that many of the cars in the same class targeted by the CTS-V, are excellent cars in their own right. While the low end torque and scorching acceleration of the CTS-V is easy to feel, statistically the 1/4 mile performance (for example) is still so close to that of the 7 series that either one would win the drag race depending on the caliber of the driver. Many of us would not exercise the cars to the limits required to expose obvious performance differences. But we all know how a car feels on our skin as it serves daily transportation duties.

I'd urge you to look deep into why you are wanting to buy, and follow your gut.

In 2000 I bought a 97 XK8. All of those things I described above, were true about that car for me. I created excuses to drive it, I thought it was the prettiest car on the road, I'd go out to the garage some times just to see if I really owned that car.

Don't let the members of a Caddy, Mercedes or BMW board convince you to buy what they are passionate about. Follow your passion.

Jeff

vperl
07-27-09, 12:15 AM
Easy, buy American Steel....

SlvrBullIT
07-27-09, 12:19 AM
^
Nice I like the way you put it.....

If it weren't for the hold on shipping the 2010 Shelby GT 500 I'd be driving a Kona blue with white racing stripped one right now!!!!
MB and BMW are nice but everyone I know with a MB and BMW hate going to the dealer for this or that. Truth be told I've taken mine in once for the mounting bracket since I got a ticket for not having a front plate, I had them check out the "Shift to park" and possible half shaft loose bolt.... The dealer didn't see anything and the DIC cleared that morning so its a half trouble issue, but I did get a car wash.
I have 2500 miles on it and it still rocks and still getting use to when the rear gives way to torque on a hard acceleration. So much fun launching hard and watching peoples jaw drop. Or taking a turn at x2 the speed recommended for the turn and sticking the turn like a fly on fly paper around the corner.

Visited Harris Hill and can't wait to take those corners.

Caroutisine
07-27-09, 06:10 AM
I would not get a 2 door car unless it only has 2 seats. Doors are too long and back seats are a pain to get in and out of. Between the BMW and the Cadillac CTS-V there is a considerable size differance between these 2 cars, so price not being an issue, it depends on how large of a car you want to drive.

Gotham CTS-V
07-27-09, 08:40 AM
CLK55 is a dated car. It's bodystyle has been replaced by the E coupe. It's motor has been replaced by the 6.2liter AMG V8.

The CLK55 has around 360hp, 5 speed AMG tuned tranny, same bodykit as a CLK500, and it was discontinued in....what 2007 I believe?

I don't really see the comparison between a CLK55 and CTS-V.

whisler151
07-27-09, 10:10 AM
CLK55? :histeric:

My apologies...I was thinking SLK55.

concorso
07-27-09, 10:14 AM
you want to show off those cars badges, or have a better, sneaker car that delivers in every
category or a"euro snob " car. The V2 does not carry all the baggage of the " snob" cars, the cops for most part do not have a clue. Want to have great time get the V2.YOU are one of the most snobish people thats ever been on this board.

The most obvious pro for the CLK63 would be the optional convertible. Both are powerful, but will brake well, but only the V will be a canyon carver when you really push it. Visually,theyre polar opposites, but I like them both. The interior is a toss up for me. The driving experience is quite different in these 2 cars... I suspect you might be happier with the CLK.

ghost02
07-27-09, 12:14 PM
Very interesting advice. Bit of background, I am 16 so this is my first car. I like sleepers a lot. For some reason the Cadillac seemed natural for me, I was pulled to it. It just feels right. My dad wants me to get the BMW, but I see so many of those, they just don't feel unique and rare. My mom wants the CLK, but it looks like a girls car and I find it difficult to drive. Do I like the BMW and MB? Well yes but only because of prestige. How fast the car is means nothing to me as I am not going to be going those speeds but I, unfortunatly, need a car with prestige otherwise I will get laughed off the face of the earth. The school lot is mostly BMW/MB so I think it is a sheeple car.

commander112
07-27-09, 12:22 PM
A member of the happy sperm club. I get it. Hense the money is no object comment. If is dad/mom's bucks I say get what they want you to get but you should guilt them into supporting an American company. By the way, I commend you for not wanting to join the sheep.

ghost02
07-27-09, 12:32 PM
I told them to get what they want and then they argue with each other and tell me to decide. When I say Cadillac then they say, "Why not try this amazing other car instead." Honestly, I am trying to save them money also.

Gotham CTS-V
07-27-09, 12:39 PM
I told them to get what they want and then they argue with each other and tell me to decide. When I say Cadillac then they say, "Why not try this amazing other car instead." Honestly, I am trying to save them money also.

Maybe convertible M6? Maserati Spyders are going pretty cheap now a days. That should go well in the HS parking lot. Try the new Mercedes E63 Coupe (or if speed isn't important, 550). For luxury sedan, nothing beats the Benz S600.

ghost02
07-27-09, 12:47 PM
Already have an S600. I am not to big a fan of convertables. Maserati? Ehh looks to sleek. I do like the E63 to be honest. Out of all of them I myself like the Caddy, it just pulls me.

Albertan
07-27-09, 01:23 PM
Probably means nothing to you but depreciation on the BMW 7 series is huge.
Seems no one wants a 6 year old big car.

CIWS
07-27-09, 01:24 PM
Out of all of them I myself like the Caddy, it just pulls me.


If you go and take it for a test drive, you'll discover how true this statement is. :yup:

ghost02
07-27-09, 01:32 PM
Deprecation may not matter to my parents but it matters to me, as I do not want to waste money. I have test driven it. I love it.

kimphamg
07-27-09, 02:34 PM
This kid has a S600 and is going to get a V2? I want to cry (and no, i'm not emo).

EDIT: At least I have more casino cash than him.. <Nelson> Ah Ha! </Nelson>

Z06ified
07-27-09, 02:39 PM
You're 16 and your parents are going to buy you a $70k car, and your HS parking lot is filled with other $70k+ cars? What planet do you live on? That's just wrong on so many levels. That's not the real world. Look, just don't kill yourself with this car, OK? It's easy to do BTW.

ghost02
07-27-09, 02:59 PM
It probably is easy to die in it, but I respect the power and understand that power = responsibility. Thats another discussion. The S600 is my mothers car.
What planet? Well I know I live on earth and in a place called LA. Forwarning, I am not spoiled. I mostly work for what I get, I have 2 jobs on top of school work. I work from 4Pm-9Pm and then on Sat and Sun I work 9Am - 3 Pm. Cars are my only joy, I don't go shopping or anything. I work hard and my parents think I deserve it. I probably not get another car for 8+ years, so I mine as well get a good one now. Cars and food and living in my parents house are the only things I don't work for to get. Its not so much a dream but working hard. I am not like Paris Hilton or the rest, those weekend jobs? Construction work. The weekday? Retail. I love cars, and so the gifts I recieve are for them. I won't get a birthday, christmas, or graduation present because all I want is a car. Is it the real world? No and I know it isn't, it is a gift from God that I have the things I have. The gifts stop and 18, after that, as my parents have said, I am on my own. I expect to be eating and sleeping in absolute crap all through college, but the reward is well worth it.

Don't assume.

kimphamg
07-27-09, 03:00 PM
Make sure you get a 2010 model. Like you said, the car speed limit might not be important to you, but trust me, you will need something quick for the 0-60. I'm sure a few of your school buddies will want to try your "muscle car" against their M3/M5.

EDIT: Don't worry about our comments, I guess we are simply jealous! I remember driving a Chrysler Reliant K at 16 years old...

ghost02
07-27-09, 03:03 PM
They aren't going to get a race from me ;D

Gotham CTS-V
07-27-09, 03:23 PM
Go for the V man! I'm a young man as well (not as young as you, but young nevertheless) and after having a few high performance/flashy cars, the V seems to be the best of everything.

Get it and enjoy. Go fully loaded though. The suede trim and polished wheels look great man. Have fun and of course, respect the power. Goodluck.

undertaker
07-27-09, 03:42 PM
the ticket to having something good is

A. you love it (which you admitted already)

B. and something different........if the lot is full of benzes and bmw's get something outside of the box...

and what the heck its far from cheap, but its less than they're willing to spend.......might earn some points for something not letting them spend as much as possible. (hell talk an all expenses road trip vacation out of them or something to bond with your new car)

commander112
07-27-09, 05:22 PM
Since you are being responsible, tell the 'rents that you want the V and they should spend a few of the dollars that they are saving in a performance driving school. Maybe dad will join in and you guys could have one of those father /som bonding days.

ghost02
07-27-09, 05:40 PM
Good idea. I'll look into it.

1BlinkGone
07-27-09, 06:16 PM
It probably is easy to die in it, but I respect the power and understand that power = responsibility. Thats another discussion. The S600 is my mothers car.
What planet? Well I know I live on earth and in a place called LA. Forwarning, I am not spoiled. I mostly work for what I get, I have 2 jobs on top of school work. I work from 4Pm-9Pm and then on Sat and Sun I work 9Am - 3 Pm. Cars are my only joy, I don't go shopping or anything. I work hard and my parents think I deserve it. I probably not get another car for 8+ years, so I mine as well get a good one now. Cars and food and living in my parents house are the only things I don't work for to get. Its not so much a dream but working hard. I am not like Paris Hilton or the rest, those weekend jobs? Construction work. The weekday? Retail. I love cars, and so the gifts I recieve are for them. I won't get a birthday, christmas, or graduation present because all I want is a car. Is it the real world? No and I know it isn't, it is a gift from God that I have the things I have. The gifts stop and 18, after that, as my parents have said, I am on my own. I expect to be eating and sleeping in absolute crap all through college, but the reward is well worth it.

Don't assume.

My GREAT God in heaven, there is HOPE for your generation! I don't know you personally, and please don't take this as condascending, but I'm very proud of you. I don't know how many of your generation & peers think as you do- but wow, I know guys my age that still have their heads anal-cranially cemented in spoiled youth mode. "Gimme this, gimme that; everybody owe's me something"... pfft.
You just made my day, young man. Truly. Your folks raised you right.

Now go get your V and enjoy it... and remember:
:postpics:

Razorecko
07-27-09, 06:26 PM
Hey Ghost - test drive a stickshift AND auto V and see which one you prefer....also tip of advice DO NOT take trac off unless its dry.....I downshifted last night on the highway to 4th gear and didn't notice that the ground was wet from a past sprinkle.....going sideways at 75mph on the highway at night..NOT FUN.

ghost02
07-27-09, 06:40 PM
I would never take trac control off anyway. Also, I have no clue how to drive stick. Blink, thank you for the nice words and I haven't seen another with my point of view. Also, no pics form me, even if I get the caddy.

Luna.
07-27-09, 09:34 PM
Very interesting advice. Bit of background, I am 16 so this is my first car. I like sleepers a lot. For some reason the Cadillac seemed natural for me, I was pulled to it. It just feels right. My dad wants me to get the BMW, but I see so many of those, they just don't feel unique and rare. My mom wants the CLK, but it looks like a girls car and I find it difficult to drive. Do I like the BMW and MB? Well yes but only because of prestige. How fast the car is means nothing to me as I am not going to be going those speeds but I, unfortunatly, need a car with prestige otherwise I will get laughed off the face of the earth. The school lot is mostly BMW/MB so I think it is a sheeple car.

You're 16? This is EASY--a no-brainer...get the CTS-V...seriously.

The V makes a statement that, "I've made it," but it doesn't make it nearly as loud as the M-series BMW or the AMG series Mercs.

At your age, you WILL have many people thinking you're one spoiled rotten kid no matter what reality is. With that in mind, I'd certainly take the V for the statement made, as discussed above, isn't as strong.





My GREAT God in heaven, there is HOPE for your generation! I don't know you personally, and please don't take this as condascending, but I'm very proud of you. I don't know how many of your generation & peers think as you do- but wow, I know guys my age that still have their heads anal-cranially cemented in spoiled youth mode. "Gimme this, gimme that; everybody owe's me something"... pfft.
You just made my day, young man. Truly. Your folks raised you right.

Now go get your V and enjoy it... and remember:
:postpics:


Yeah, I agree. It's funny how so many people that I do NOT know continuously use the SAME/SIMILAR WORDS/PHRASES to describe the current, younger, generation...

"Entitled..." "Owe's me..." "gimme this/that..."

A-F!ING-MEN. It's PATHETIC...and it's EVERYWHERE, including this god-da*n music that is has been popular for the past 10-15 years which demonstrates this attitude near-perfectly...

What's this attitude? One that lacks the BIG-3, those being (1) humility, (2) respect, and (3) patience. Pathetic is really the only way to describe it.

Ghost---remember the Big-3; I salute you...

ghost02
07-27-09, 10:21 PM
That's what I see also.

Anyone have a real good guide for driving a manual? No-one I know will let me drive theirs to learn.

UnsafeAtAnySpd
07-28-09, 12:52 AM
Damn man, I'll admit, I'm jealous. My parents drive a 1990 F-150 and a 1992 Landcruiser. Same cars they had while I was in high school. No way I was getting a $60k+ car. :)

UnsafeAtAnySpd
07-28-09, 12:53 AM
That's what I see also.

Anyone have a real good guide for driving a manual? No-one I know will let me drive theirs to learn.

Go buy a POS $300 manual car and throw it away once you're done learning.

Caddyscat
07-28-09, 01:24 AM
I'd be perfectly willing to teach you. My rates are cheap!

Gotham CTS-V
07-28-09, 08:21 AM
You can learn stick if you wanted to. It really just takes a nice afternoon of driving. Within the week you will be very smooth. But there is NOTHING wrong with the automatic in this car. It is, afterall, a luxury car. You are getting it more for the road prescence and the grown up but aggressive attitude it projects.

Go for it my man. My parents got me a very nice car when I was 16. When I turned 18 it was time for me to be on my own, financially. That first car at 16 gave me the motivation and drive to want to exceed what my parents did for me and since then, I've had a few very nice, high performance vehicles and can drive around being proud and appreciative knowing how lucky I am and how hard work and sacrifice (instead of partyin on weekends, you need rest to go to work, etc) really do pay off! Goodluck and enjoy the car brother.

ghost02
07-31-09, 11:55 PM
Looks like a V may be coming my way soon, time to go and test it again. Hopefully for the final time.

Razorecko
08-01-09, 12:26 AM
dude...get one in stick and learn to drive on it :cool: - ....i have my 97 twin turbo supra w/ 37k miles on it in perfect minty shape sitting in my garage for the last 2 years because its auto....oh and b*tches llllllllllllllllllllllllllove when a man can drive stick

ghost02
08-01-09, 10:48 AM
Ahhhh. I now have a V. My mom was rather mad actually, she went and bought the CLK anyway. I had to get the V in auto though. Very very very nice car, everything is just perfect about it. I love the thing to death.

mik2718
08-01-09, 11:00 AM
Congratulations! The V will be fun to drive for years to come. What color/options did you get, besides auto?

CIWS
08-01-09, 11:28 AM
Ahhhh. I now have a V. My mom was rather mad actually, she went and bought the CLK anyway. I had to get the V in auto though. Very very very nice car, everything is just perfect about it. I love the thing to death.

Congrats on the acquisition, going to have to post of some pics now. :)

ghost02
08-01-09, 11:34 AM
No pics, privacy issues. Black/black. I didn't get any options, the recaro seats are not very comfortable!

CIWS
08-01-09, 11:49 AM
No pics, privacy issues. Black/black. I didn't get any options, the recaro seats are not very comfortable!

It's certainly your choice, but how can a picture of your car invade your privacy as long as you do not show the plate ? (which should be a temp dealer tag right now)

jwa999
08-01-09, 11:57 AM
the recaro seats are not very comfortable!

Congrats.
I found the best way to set the lumbar is to start with letting all the air out completely and then fill the lower lumbar to 75% or higher.
You will feel that lower lumbar pushing against you, but when you re-seat yourself, you no longer feel it. It took me months to get used to the recaros, but now I love them.

Hans.