: Z06 FRCs Install on My V - Pix Inside!



StealthV
07-19-04, 11:29 PM
Was poking around under the hood tonight and realized I hadn't shared photos of the Z06 fuel rail covers on my V.

Original, boring, ugly, heat trapping Caddy cover...
http://www.nitro-nights.com/2005v/stealthv_z06frc_000a.jpg


Naked LS6...
http://www.nitro-nights.com/2005v/stealthv_z06frc_000b.jpg


Weapon of choice...
http://www.nitro-nights.com/2005v/stealthv_z06frc_000c.jpg


Let beauty speak for itself...
http://www.nitro-nights.com/2005v/stealthv_z06frc_001.jpg

http://www.nitro-nights.com/2005v/stealthv_z06frc_002.jpg

http://www.nitro-nights.com/2005v/stealthv_z06frc_003.jpg

http://www.nitro-nights.com/2005v/stealthv_z06frc_004.jpg

http://www.nitro-nights.com/2005v/stealthv_z06frc_005.jpg

Dreamin
07-20-04, 12:06 AM
Ohhhh.... that's what you mean by "FRC"... I see it in your sig on other boards... and i've been confused for weeks.

The Corvette guys use FRC to mean "Fixed Roof Coupe"... meaning the Z06 body style (vs. the std. corvette with the long rear glass). Too many TLAs to keep track of...

Anyway... very cool pics! :D

benjet
07-20-04, 12:16 AM
I agree with Dreamin (caught me off guard for a bit there), however just before someone else does - to clarify I don't think Z06's can be FRCs I think Z06 only is available as a solid roof. The regular (C5) Vette is availble in FRC, 'Vert and of course traditional, think of the FRC as the modern version of a T-top (remove-able roof panel). Anyway great pics and someone correct me if I'm wrong on the Z06 never being available in FRC (which I think means Fixed Roof Convertable - not coupe).

alexWS6
07-20-04, 12:17 AM
Cool!

Silver Baron
07-20-04, 12:24 AM
I love that look. I always thought the CTS-V deserves better.
StealthV, I hope you removed your wrench before closing the hood ;)

StealthV
07-20-04, 12:24 AM
Sorry about the FRC confusion guys. That acronym comes from my Camaro days where the covers are called that on the forums.

The FRC Vette was the predecessor to the Z06. It stands for Fixed Roof Coupe as Dreamin mentioned. No convertible, no t-top, no targa, but one big "traditional" solid roof for structural rigidity. :cheers:

thebigjimsho
07-20-04, 12:24 AM
Oh God No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please, Oh, Please Do Not Let Shinkaze See This Thread!!!!!!!!

No More "rice" Definitions!!!!!!!!!

Shinkaze
07-20-04, 12:29 AM
Oh God No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please, Oh, Please Do Not Let Shinkaze See This Thread!!!!!!!!

No More "rice" Definitions!!!!!!!!!:D
This mod doesn't bother me, it *is* an LS6 afterall, so I think it's fine putting LS6 Fuel Rail Covers on an LS6.

FWIW All Z06 Corvettes are FRC's but not all FRC's are Z06s. FWIW though the FRC Vette Did not have Red Fuel Rail covers, that was only on the Z06 (Which is an FRC). The 1999-2000 FRC Vettes recieved the LS1 and the standard Gray Fuel Rail covers that come on the LS1.

StealthV
07-20-04, 12:29 AM
I love that look. I always thought the CTS-V deserves better.
StealthV, I hope you removed your wrench before closing the hood ;)

Good eyes! Yes, I did remove the ratchet. The ratchet was in the picture on purpose for the possible future write-up on how to do the entire install and modification of the Z06 covers to get them to fit.

It took a couple of hours to get the covers to fit correctly due to the differences in fuel lines, A/C switch and dipstick location. Not a plug and play mod like I had hoped when I ordered those covers two months before I had the car!

benjet
07-20-04, 12:35 AM
I am standing corrected (on FRCs).
-Ben

Silver Baron
07-20-04, 12:54 AM
The rachet was in the picture on purpose for the possible future write-up on how to do the entire install and modification of the Z06 covers to get them to fit.
Will we see this soon?
I would like to do this too. Where did you get your covers from?
Is anybody making covers that say LS6 rather tha Corvette? Maybe Carbon Fiber?

Slick V
07-20-04, 12:56 AM
That looks great, just like your other mods, the red really compliments the black. Is there much difference inside of the car, Idle or WOT?

Shinkaze
07-20-04, 01:01 AM
That looks great, just like your other mods, the red really compliments the black. Is there much difference inside of the car, Idle or WOT?
Doesn't Caddy call the big plastic thing a "sound deadener" or something? Not sure I buy that.....

-Adam

StealthV
07-20-04, 01:19 AM
Bought my covers used on eBay for ~$50. Dealer price new is in the $80-100 ballpark for the pair. Part numbers for the Z06 covers are 12564257 and 12564258.

For the cover modification, the descriptive version is this -

1. Remove the four strut tower brace bolts with an 18 mm socket.

2. Remove strut tower brace.

3. Remove the oil filler cap.

4. Gently lift up on the Cadillac cover at the corner by the oil fill neck - the cover will easily pop right off.

5. Slightly bend the oil dipstick towards the outside of the car approximately half an inch.

6. For the right hand Z06 cover, cut across the inside rear of the cover to clear the fuel lines. For all the cuts, I used a nice $150 DeWalt jig-saw with a fine tooth metal blade and set the saw at its lowest RPM. Be careful not to hurt yourself, there is no good way to hold the covers and cut on them with a power tool! For minor clean ups or trims, I used a X-acto knife and cleaned up the edges with 400 grit sandpaper.
http://www.nitro-nights.com/2005v/stealthv_z06frc_003i1.jpg

7. For the left hand Z06 cover, three cuts are required.

8. First cut is a sort of a c-shaped notch at the rear to clear the fuel line. One could just cut off that entire corner like the right hand side, but I chose to keep as much intact as possible.

9. The second trim is to clear the fuel pressure regulator in the center of the cover
http://www.nitro-nights.com/2005v/stealthv_z06frc_004i1.jpg

10. The third and final cut to the right hand cover is a d-shaped notch to give the A/C switch wires a little bit of clearance.
http://www.nitro-nights.com/2005v/stealthv_z06frc_003i2.jpg

11. The outside (exhaust manifold side) of the covers slide over the existing ignition coil studs. The left cover uses two studs. The right cover uses three studs due to the big factory notch. The inside (intake manifold side) of the covers snap onto the fuel injection rail in two locations each.

12. Install oil filler cap.

13. Place strut tower brace back over the engine. There are plastic locating dowels on either side.

14. Torque the four strut tower brace bolts to 83 ft-lb.

15. Take digital pictures to share on this forum!

16. Drink a beer.

Note, steps 15, 16 and mostly 16 can be interchanged at various steps in this process. ;)

To make it easier to replicate the covers, perhaps I could take the covers off and make up some templates?

StealthV
07-20-04, 01:57 AM
That looks great, just like your other mods, the red really compliments the black. Is there much difference inside of the car, Idle or WOT?

No, I haven't noticed a difference in the engine noise. Perhaps just a hair louder, but nothing worth noting good or bad.

The Caddy cover is entirely lined with about 1/2" think insulation on the underside. When I took the Caddy cover off, I was surprised by how much heat was trapped underneath it. After my 12 mile commute home from work, the underside of that cover was absolutely toasty.

The Z06 covers shouldn't trap has much heat as the Caddy version; however the performance increase due to the lower temperature is probably negligible.

For me, this was an appearance mod as the Cadillac cover looks like a giant soap bar carved out of gray plastic. The Z06 covers also have a little bit more jaw-dropping power for all those people who don't even know what a V is --- and then you pop the hood and they start to understand...sometimes. :coolgleam

StealthV
07-20-04, 02:17 AM
Will we see this soon?
I would like to do this too. Where did you get your covers from?
Is anybody making covers that say LS6 rather tha Corvette? Maybe Carbon Fiber?

There are several aftermarket companies making covers for the LS1 and LS6 engines. Here's a couple I found after a quick search

21st Century Muscle Cars (http://www.21stcenturymusclecars.com/coilcovers.asp)

F-Body Version **Note, the LS1's have two factory notches on LH cover** (http://www.f-bodyconcepts.com/_wsn/page2.html)

AutoBuffs (http://www.autobuffs.net/gallery.html)

Corvette Concepts (http://www.corvetteconcepts.com/Products/Appearance/engine/engine.htm)

Dreamin
07-20-04, 02:44 AM
Hate to break it to you Stealthy... but you have aftermarket covers there... the factory Z06 covers dont have those silver highlights (unless you did that...)

http://www.z06vette.com/gallery/data/500/5191DSCF0041.JPG
(Autograph by Andy Pilgrim not included)

StealthV
07-20-04, 02:50 AM
Yes, I added the silver highlights to the stock covers. ...and more.... ;)

Dreamin
07-20-04, 03:06 AM
...and painted it a brighter color...cool...

ctsvett
07-20-04, 03:28 AM
StealthV,
YOU ROCK!!

This has been added to the FAQ as well.

Http://www.cadillacfaq.com

Reed
http://www.cadillacfaq.com

2004ctsv
07-20-04, 03:06 PM
Yes, I added the silver highlights to the stock covers. ...and more.... ;)
But did it increase RWH?? :lildevil:

jdodman
07-21-04, 07:08 AM
If you want to take this type of mod to the exterior of your car, I replaced the V badges with silver / red Z06 badges all around my V. I personally did not car for the V badge design (like the engine cover) and decided to pick up some Z06 badges on Ebay. $40.00 for all 3, brand new..
Pictures are on another thread I ran last month under my name. Do a search if interested...

Easy modification if interested...Generates some puzzled looks when waiting at a red light, from Car enthusiasts that cannot figure out what is goin on.

Until the light turns green of course... :)

T_Dogg8
07-21-04, 08:43 AM
that is really cool. i really like what you did. very nice job.

T_Dogg8
07-21-04, 08:47 AM
I agree with Dreamin (caught me off guard for a bit there), however just before someone else does - to clarify I don't think Z06's can be FRCs I think Z06 only is available as a solid roof. The regular (C5) Vette is availble in FRC, 'Vert and of course traditional, think of the FRC as the modern version of a T-top (remove-able roof panel). Anyway great pics and someone correct me if I'm wrong on the Z06 never being available in FRC (which I think means Fixed Roof Convertable - not coupe).
ok, i wasn't going to do this, but as someone who grew up on corvettes, i have to. the traditional is a convertable, not a coupe :) sorry, i know it's picky, but in my mind, the only true corvette has no roof :)

Rob Ketcham
07-22-04, 10:57 AM
Stealth V
Your pictures of the Corvette covers complete with the steps you took are motivation enough to follow your lead. However, since I don't mind walking behind every now and then, I was thinking that if you did a template it would be just that much easier. If you do one please let me know.
The cover on the V engine just doesn't do it. Visuals are important, and your mod really focuses the eye on a great engine instead of hiding it underneath the stupid cover.
Way before your time in 1950 when Oldsmobile was first featuring the Rocket 88 Olds engine, they made up a bunch of hoods with large plastic inserts so that you didn't even have to open the hood to see the radical V8 with its gold valve covers that was outgunning anything else around at the time. My Dad had one, and your mod sort of made me think of it again.

c4ss
12-16-09, 09:38 PM
I hate to dig up this dinosaur, but does anyone have picture instructions on WHERE to cut the z06 fuel rail covers? Did StealthV ever make that template he talks about in this thread? I had no luck on search. I know the FAQ has this link (http://www.cadillacfaq.com/faq/answers/stealthv/z06covers/index.html) showing how to install these, but it says nothing about the modifications that need to be made, and specifically where. My fuel rail covers are not StealthV's cut ones...they are virgin z06 covers. Just don't want to screw them up. Any help would be appreciated. Here are mine.


http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo319/cass486/1216092004.jpg

thebigjimsho
12-16-09, 11:43 PM
Just put them on and see where they don't line up. Dremel that part out and refinish. All done...

vegasVowner
12-16-09, 11:57 PM
:yeah:

c4ss
12-17-09, 12:01 AM
Did you guys put clearcoat on yours too?

thebigjimsho
12-17-09, 01:47 PM
Did you guys put clearcoat on yours too?
I bought mine as they were...

JimmyH
12-17-09, 04:57 PM
For a second there, I though tbjs was on a bumping mission again.


I dont see why you would clearcoat them. They look fine the way they are.

A dremel is easiest to cut them. But if you don't have one, a really sharp utility knife (and an extreme amount of caution) should suffice.


http://www.cooleywire.com/jimmyh/pics/cars/frc.jpg

perfect
12-17-09, 05:31 PM
Dremel all the way

c4ss
12-17-09, 07:35 PM
I dont see why you would clearcoat them. They look fine the way they are.

A dremel is easiest to cut them. But if you don't have one, a really sharp utility knife (and an extreme amount of caution) should suffice.


Ok. I've just heard of guys clearcoating them...I don't know why either, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything.


Now I need to find a buddy that has a dremel tool. Or a Rent All Center :hmm:

thebigjimsho
12-17-09, 07:41 PM
For a second there, I though tbjs was on a bumping mission again.


I dont see why you would clearcoat them. They look fine the way they are.

A dremel is easiest to cut them. But if you don't have one, a really sharp utility knife (and an extreme amount of caution) should suffice.


http://www.cooleywire.com/jimmyh/pics/cars/frc.jpgBecause it's a Cadillac, you non-V drivin' fool...

JimmyH
12-17-09, 07:57 PM
Now I need to find a buddy that has a dremel tool. Or a Rent All Center :hmm:

Actually, Dremels are quite inexpensive. I use mine frequently. You would do well for yourself just to go out and buy one. They are quite handy to have around.

JimmyH
12-17-09, 07:57 PM
Because it's a Cadillac, you non-V drivin' fool...

So is this going to be a regular thing now?

thebigjimsho
12-18-09, 01:06 AM
So is this going to be a regular thing now?
Depends on how saucy I feel...

Black Sunshine
12-18-09, 07:05 AM
I just mounted a set of long lost, new Stealth V covers on my car this week. (long story short, jerked the chain of a former forum member I bought the set from but who never sent them and he came thru one year to the day after I paid him. kinda amazing) Talk about revisiting ancient history.

As far as I can tell you need to do a small "adjustment" on the dip stick tube, I played around a little with the routing of the wiring harness at the fuel regulator and there was a small "chunk" of cover that V removed at the rear of the driver's side cover to accomadate the fuel line. No obvious cuts for the power steering resevior.

Dremel Tool Sale
http://www.tylertool.com/100n10.html
even cheaper
http://www.tylertool.com/drem750minco.html

BTW, c4ss, a tracing of the driver's side cover is in the mail to you now.

c4ss
12-27-09, 01:41 AM
I just mounted a set of long lost, new Stealth V covers on my car this week. (long story short, jerked the chain of a former forum member I bought the set from but who never sent them and he came thru one year to the day after I paid him. kinda amazing) Talk about revisiting ancient history.

As far as I can tell you need to do a small "adjustment" on the dip stick tube, I played around a little with the routing of the wiring harness at the fuel regulator and there was a small "chunk" of cover that V removed at the rear of the driver's side cover to accomadate the fuel line. No obvious cuts for the power steering resevior.

Dremel Tool Sale
http://www.tylertool.com/100n10.html
even cheaper
http://www.tylertool.com/drem750minco.html

BTW, c4ss, a tracing of the driver's side cover is in the mail to you now.


Thanks Gene! I got that the other day. Hadn't been on here for awhile and was pleasantly surprised when it came. That should really help me out. Probably going to buy one of those cheapo dremel tools again as well and get this knocked out. Got a shiny new set of Kooks in the garage now too :highfive:

JimmyH
12-27-09, 07:30 PM
I have been trying desperately to beat up my six or eight year old dremel, so I can justify buying a new one. But the thing just refuses to die. I would love to have a cordless, but then I am skeptical of all cordless tools. I have never had good luck with battery life on battery powered tools.

vegasVowner
12-28-09, 08:25 AM
DO NOT buy the cordless Dremel complete garbage from the get-go as far as battery life. Errrr I mean I'll trade ya for a corded one.....yeah thats it! But seriously, I just cleaned up a throttle body and polished it with the cordless and it took two days, both batteries take hours to charge and minutes to drain.

JimmyH
12-28-09, 12:49 PM
thanks for the tip. I had my doubts about the cordless dremel. Do they still sell a corded one? I like using it with the cutoff wheel, and that would drain the battery pretty fast.

c4ss
12-28-09, 11:20 PM
Since I dug this thread up from the grave, I guess the least I could do is post a pics of mine that I just did. Thanks to Gene (Black Sunshine) for the z06 fuel rail covers as well as the template. The template he gave me was for the driver's side which was nice to have, because it needed quite a bit of modification. The passenger side didn't need as much, but still some. As many have said, the dremel tool is your best weapon in this battle. It took me about 3 hours to get them to latch completely down, but I'm also VERY picky. Engine bay could use a little degreaser after that cover came off, so ignore the dirt. Here are the before and after pics.

BEFORE:

http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo319/cass486/DSC01175.jpg

AFTER:

http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo319/cass486/DSC01176.jpg

http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo319/cass486/DSC01179.jpg

All in all, a great mod in my opinion. Not only does it look much better than that "garbage can cover", but it also will likely retain much less heat as well. Patience is recommended for this mod, as I had to take the FRC's off and on probably about 10 times....but as I said I'm very picky. If you can buy the precut, StealthV versions of these, that is the best of both worlds. Hope this can take someone off the fence with this mod :thumbsup:

JimmyH
12-29-09, 01:52 PM
The best thing about this mod is that it lets you see the intake runners. Very cool.

c4ss
12-29-09, 07:29 PM
The best thing about this mod is that it lets you see the intake runners. Very cool.


Definitely :thumbsup:


I just noticed I need to get that Monsterwire for my subwoofer off the FRC though.

aideneverett
01-11-10, 12:06 PM
So, that's what that was.. Been wondering.. lol.. Very sharp looking engine bay with the fr covers, removed battery cover also, and kick arse chrome v oil cap.. Nicee..!