: End of the Line for GM Medium Duty



Playdrv4me
06-09-09, 11:40 AM
It appears GM was just out-gunned, out-classed and out-sold in this odd corner of the truck market by several competitors who offered far more flexible vehicle configurations. I actually didn't realize the Top Kick and Kodiak were made at the same GM truck plant alongside the Silverado and Sierra. Now that I look at the wheelbase and overall design though I suppose I can kind of see that.

Yet another small piece of the pie for Ford to take back.

Story Here: http://www.autoobserver.com/2009/06/gm-to-end-medium-duty-truck-production.html

http://www.autoobserver.com/2008%20GMC%20TopKick%20-%202.JPG

Aron9000
06-09-09, 05:55 PM
Ford isn't that big of a player in that market either. Navistar/International just about owns the market for big box trucks, electric company trucks, refridgerated box trucks, etc. Isuzu is another big player in this market with their cab over trucks.

Sucks for all those people in Flint out of work now.

Rodya234
06-09-09, 06:48 PM
We have an international (an old one). It suckzors, the only good thing about it is the engine, which was made by AMC.

LS1Mike
06-09-09, 07:57 PM
It is good that they do it to save money, but it made a bad ass class "C" motor home. It what I want to replace my Class A.
http://www.roamingtimes.com/rvreports/images/four-winds-kodiak-class-c-exterior.jpg

dkozloski
06-09-09, 09:24 PM
Ford isn't that big of a player in that market either. Navistar/International just about owns the market for big box trucks, electric company trucks, refridgerated box trucks, etc. Isuzu is another big player in this market with their cab over trucks.

Sucks for all those people in Flint out of work now.
Isuzu is GM. The engine is a 350 V8 and the transmission is GM as well. Box vans around here are KW, Freightliner, and Sterling.

LS1Mike
06-09-09, 09:24 PM
Ford isn't that big of a player in that market either. Navistar/International just about owns the market for big box trucks, electric company trucks, refridgerated box trucks, etc. Isuzu is another big player in this market with their cab over trucks.



The Isuzu NPR is the largest selling medium duty truck in the world. You can put almost anything on that chasis. Even a small cement mixer.

Aron9000
06-09-09, 10:07 PM
Isuzu is GM. The engine is a 350 V8 and the transmission is GM as well. Box vans around here are KW, Freightliner, and Sterling.

Not in the medium duty market. They use a diesel in the trucks I'm talking about, and the 350 V8 went out of production in new cars/trucks several years ago. GM used to own 49% of Isuzu, but sold most of its shares.

http://www.classytrucks.org/Isuzu/isuzu.2004.NPR-02.jpg

I~LUV~Caddys8792
06-09-09, 10:24 PM
I'd love to drive one of these for work.
http://i.oodleimg.com/item/1314970111_1x.jpg

dkozloski
06-09-09, 11:17 PM
Isuzu NPR HD gas=vortec motor and hydramatic trans. http://www.isuzucv.com/nseries/nprgasspecs.html

I~LUV~Caddys8792
06-09-09, 11:51 PM
I've seen a lot of the older NPRs with badges on them saying "EFI V8". I walk around and look at the engine and what do I see? A throttle body injected Chevy small block.

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
06-10-09, 12:01 AM
I'd love to drive one of these for work.
http://i.oodleimg.com/item/1314970111_1x.jpg

Haha. My friend got beat by one of those when he had his 1985 FWB. He was so pissed, but that's the HT-4100 for ya.

Aron9000
06-10-09, 12:12 AM
Isuzu NPR HD gas=vortec motor and hydramatic trans. http://www.isuzucv.com/nseries/nprgasspecs.html

Didn't know you could get them with a gas motor, interesting.