: Life after people... Cockroaches and Wranglers.



Playdrv4me
06-03-09, 05:00 PM
The brand that can survive anything proves its viability again... Wranglers are apparently down to nearly a 30 day supply and the Toledo Ohio Jeep plant will be the first to come back online post-Chrysler disaster...

Story here: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=149646

Jesda
06-03-09, 05:14 PM
I want a Wrangler Unlimited. They're awesome. Anyone who disagrees is a ghay person.

Playdrv4me
06-03-09, 05:16 PM
I want a Wrangler Unlimited. They're awesome. Anyone who disagrees is a ghay person.

Never been a fan of the stretched wheelbase model. I like the compact rugged looks of the standard Wranlger and stretching it just looks odd to me.

Jesda
06-03-09, 05:20 PM
Never been a fan of the stretched wheelbase model. I like the compact rugged looks of the standard Wranlger and stretching it just looks odd to me.

You act like you've never seen a four-door SUV.

Playdrv4me
06-03-09, 05:36 PM
You act like you've never seen a four-door SUV.

Those are just tall four-door wagons.

Jesda
06-03-09, 05:37 PM
Those are just tall four-door wagons.

Take your Olds Custom Cruiser through some mud.

orconn
06-03-09, 05:42 PM
Believe it or not, back in 1967 in East Africa, we had long wheel base Jeeps (like Wranglers of today). They had cutouts for just two doors and had seats (benches) fixed lengthwise in the back. The one we had had a pipe frame over which could be fitted a canvas top and side curtains. While we also had Land Rovers (both long and short wheel base) we preferred the Jeeps because of the relatively narrower track. I still preferred the 1955 Saab 96 coupe to either of the utility off road vehicles. I don't know if the long wheelbase Jeeps were for export only and were maybe built overseas, but besides the one we had there were several others around in the city of Asmara.

Playdrv4me
06-03-09, 05:47 PM
Believe it or not, back in 1967 in East Africa, we had long wheel base Jeeps (like Wranglers of today). They had cutouts for just two doors and had seats (benches) fixed lengthwise in the back. The one we had had a pipe frame over which could be fitted a canvas top and side curtains. While we also had Land Rovers (both long and short wheel base) we preferred the Jeeps because of the relatively narrower track. I still preferred the 1955 Saab 96 coupe to either of the utility off road vehicles. I don't know if the long wheelbase Jeeps were for export only and were maybe built overseas, but besides the one we had there were several others around in the city of Asmara.

Oh there is no doubt there have been MANY longer-wheelbase Wranglers through the years in both consumer and commercial applications. Even CJ "truck" things that used the additional wheelbase for a cargo bed.

For me however, the purest expression of a Wrangler is the classic short-wheelbase, 2 doors (usually taken off) all purpose off-roader. The compact size just makes them extremely agile and just personal preference, they look better to me. Not to mention less weight is never a bad thing.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
06-03-09, 07:39 PM
There was a Wrangler Unlimited featured in Terminator Salvation. Kyle Reese and Marcus use it as a getaway vehicle. But then again, aren't Wranglers synonomous with Terminator? That's what Sarah Connor drives off into the Arizona Desert in when the first Terminator ends.

The Tony Show
06-03-09, 07:52 PM
I sense an incredibly long post coming in the near future......

Night Wolf
06-03-09, 07:55 PM
I want a Wrangler Unlimited. They're awesome. Anyone who disagrees is a ghay person.

The problem with the JK is that they grew.... alot. 5" wider then the TJ, longer and taller too.

32's come standard on the Rubicon models. On the 2-door, they look OK but still small, kinda like how 30's look on the TJ. 33's make a TJ look "not too big, not too small" On a JK, 35's look "right".... on the 4-door JK, 32's look small. 37's look like "big tire proportional"

A picture says 1,000 words, or so they say....

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/Wheelin/River%20Rock%205-09/5-30-09076.jpg

(37's^) That thing crawls over everything, it's rather amusing to watch it go, the owner is really cool and basically won't pass up the chance to try anything with it, riding along with him is like your own 3mph rollercoaster - yes, the thrill is there.

For comparison, my TJ is still on the factory 30's, the lifted TJ in the background is on 33's.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/Wheelin/River%20Rock%205-09/5-30-09077.jpg

The new JK is really growing on me..... mine would be 2-door, but I don't think it'll win me outta my TJ.

Kev
06-03-09, 07:55 PM
I sense an incredibly long post coming in the near future......
Yes










































This is not it ....




:cool2:

Night Wolf
06-03-09, 07:56 PM
I sense an incredibly long post coming in the near future......

I may have let you down :(

Want me to try again? I think I could muster something up...

I~LUV~Caddys8792
06-03-09, 08:25 PM
Want me to try again? I think I could muster something up...

That's what she said.

93DevilleUSMC
06-03-09, 08:44 PM
Rick, will you be using one hand or two?

Night Wolf
06-03-09, 09:08 PM
Rick, will you be using one hand or two?

Gotta use two.... it's a stick!

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/Jeep/5-26-09/6-2-09013.jpg

gary88
06-03-09, 10:40 PM
Gotta use two.... it's a stick!


No comment :shifty

Night Wolf
06-03-09, 10:43 PM
No comment :shifty

Well, I have only used one hand... so long as you are off the curves...

AMGoff
06-03-09, 11:10 PM
Even CJ "truck" things that used the additional wheelbase for a cargo bed.

Lol... Are you talking about the CJ-8 Scrambler?

If so, I'm still in love with those things... It's been on my list of "to owns" for as long as I remember. I almost pulled the trigger on one several times... Most recently as of just a few years ago when I ended up getting the CJ5. There weren't that many Scramblers ever made to begin with and those that were tend to be held on to religiously... So they're really hard to come by, especially an example that's in decent shape and is close to original without have a bunch of ridiculous and needless modifications done to them. When one does, you can sure expect to pay a rather hefty premium compared to their CJ7 contemporaries.

I suppose I'll find one some day... Perhaps when I'm finished tinkering and all is said and done with the 5. Ahh.. A man can dream at least :cloud9:

I~LUV~Caddys8792
06-03-09, 11:40 PM
I saw a couple of nice Grand Wagoneers in western MN last week Adam. And a J-20 at that Mopar show last weekend.

Night Wolf
06-03-09, 11:46 PM
Lol... Are you talking about the CJ-8 Scrambler?

If so, I'm still in love with those things... It's been on my list of "to owns" for as long as I remember. I almost pulled the trigger on one several times... Most recently as of just a few years ago when I ended up getting the CJ5. There weren't that many Scramblers ever made to begin with and those that were tend to be held on to religiously... So they're really hard to come by, especially an example that's in decent shape and is close to original without have a bunch of ridiculous and needless modifications done to them. When one does, you can sure expect to pay a rather hefty premium compared to their CJ7 contemporaries.

I suppose I'll find one some day... Perhaps when I'm finished tinkering and all is said and done with the 5. Ahh.. A man can dream at least :cloud9:

When did you get a CJ5.... and why haven't I seen pics of it!?

Ever since it first came out, even when I didn't like them.... the LJ (TJ Unlimited) has closely reminded me of the CJ8 Scrambler.

http://www.thejeep.com/stc/images/CJ8_HALFlg.jpg

http://jeeplj.com/photos/LIFTKIT.jpg

Since I bought my TJ, I've actually thought about getting a CJ as a toy.... then I had to ask myself if I am truely crazy? One Jeep addiction is enough, if I had to empty my pockets on a CJ and TJ, I may have to put the house up for sale!

AMGoff
06-04-09, 12:32 AM
I saw a couple of nice Grand Wagoneers in western MN last week Adam. And a J-20 at that Mopar show last weekend.

Ohhhh.... :drool:

There's something else I must have before I kick the bucket... I'd love to get an old Gladiator or a late 70s J20!



When did you get a CJ5.... and why haven't I seen pics of it!?

Ever since it first came out, even when I didn't like them.... the LJ (TJ Unlimited) has closely reminded me of the CJ8 Scrambler.

Since I bought my TJ, I've actually thought about getting a CJ as a toy.... then I had to ask myself if I am truely crazy? One Jeep addiction is enough, if I had to empty my pockets on a CJ and TJ, I may have to put the house up for sale!

Oh lord... Where I have you been? I always knew the only long posts you'd ever read were your own! ;) J/K...

It's been my little project for a few years now - since like '05. I've mentioned it from time to time... I even had it up in my header for the longest time until I ran out of room! I've never owned a Wrangler - Only CJs... I had a '79 CJ-7 back in high-school, but sold it when I went to college. Since then, it had only been Cherokees (and the Grand Wag, of course). I hadn't had a small Jeep since '02 and I really wanted another one, preferably a CJ and especially a CJ8... So in '05, I started looking for Scramblers when I pretty much stumbled across the 5, which was a friend's grandfather's who had recently passed away. It had sat in a barn for probably 10 years before I even looked at it for the first time.

So since I'm never allowed to take up more than one bay in the garage at any given time, needless to say the search for the Scrambler has been put on hold indefinitely.

Night Wolf
06-04-09, 12:03 PM
Very cool! Neat story too. Lol, I've read quite the messages here over the years, long and short.... And not just mine ;-), I just don't remember reading about it. How about some pics? Which engine?

93DevilleUSMC
06-04-09, 09:17 PM
Gotta use two.... it's a stick!

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/Jeep/5-26-09/6-2-09013.jpg

Yeah, but can you have both hands on it at the same time?

Playdrv4me
06-04-09, 09:46 PM
Oh dear.

Night Wolf
06-04-09, 09:49 PM
Yeah, but can you have both hands on it at the same time?

Of course!, one on the knob and the other on the shaft..... it's a really long stick! It dosen't take that much to get the job done tho..... 2 fingers is all you need - it's smooth shifting.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/Jeep/6-3-09%20discos/6-2-09016.jpg

*edit* I have the urge.... I think I'm gonna go out for a quickie. It's a fun vehicle to drive!

93DevilleUSMC
06-04-09, 10:01 PM
Of course!, one on the knob and the other on the shaft..... it's a really long stick! It dosen't take that much to get the job done tho..... 2 fingers is all you need - it's smooth shifting.

[*edit* I have the urge.... I think I'm gonna go out for a quickie.

Yeah but does it fit in the gearbox? All of that hand stuff doesn't count if it doesn't get in there and move around.

Quickie, huh? Make sure it doesn't have a manual tranny.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
06-04-09, 10:42 PM
So since I'm never allowed to take up more than one bay in the garage at any given time...

What, your wife doesn't want you to use any of the other 13 bays?


(no offense, I just always imagined you living in a very large house) :D


Here's some Jeep porn for you two.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j313/Chadillac8705/IMG_4133-1.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j313/Chadillac8705/IMG_4134.jpg

Night Wolf
06-04-09, 10:56 PM
Yeah but does it fit in the gearbox? All of that hand stuff doesn't count if it doesn't get in there and move around.

Quickie, huh? Make sure it doesn't have a manual tranny.

No slop at all! This one is tight! Then again, what else would one expect from a 4-yr old?

The manual tranny is what makes the quickies so fun! We have a storm coming in though and the wind started kicking up..... was blowing me pretty hard going down the road, side to side too - had to stay focused to keep it going stright.

Playdrv4me
06-04-09, 11:26 PM
This will not end well.

Night Wolf
06-04-09, 11:29 PM
This will not end well.

We can hope for a happy ending.

93DevilleUSMC
06-05-09, 01:10 AM
No slop at all! This one is tight! Then again, what else would one expect from a 14-yr old?



Fixed that for ya. :yup:

93DevilleUSMC
06-05-09, 01:11 AM
We can hope for a happy ending.

For an extra fifty dollars.

93DevilleUSMC
06-05-09, 01:13 AM
The manual tranny is what makes the quickies so fun! We have a storm coming in though and the wind started kicking up..... was blowing me pretty hard going down the road, side to side too - had to stay focused to keep it going stright.

Dang, how much did you have to pay her to do that?

Night Wolf
06-05-09, 07:04 AM
Fixed that for ya. :yup:

???

My Jeep is an '05, not a '95.

Jesda
06-05-09, 12:49 PM
???

My Jeep is an '05, not a '95.

:cool2:

93DevilleUSMC
06-05-09, 09:26 PM
???

My Jeep is an '05, not a '95.

I was making your post into a dirty joke.

Night Wolf
06-06-09, 12:11 AM
I was making your post into a dirty joke.

I was playing along.

C0RSA1R
06-06-09, 12:49 AM
Take your Olds Custom Cruiser through some mud.

I did that once. And only once.

Night Wolf
06-06-09, 02:19 AM
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