: GM sells HUMMER brand- brings more production back to US



The Tony Show
06-02-09, 10:04 AM
GM announced it has reached a deal to sell HUMMER to a (currently) undisclosed buyer.

The deal reportedly will keep the ~150 HUMMER Dealers in the US open for business while the new owner develops additional vehicles to be sold under the HUMMER brand name. GM will continue producing the H3 at its plant in Shreveport and supplying them to the new owner until at least 2010, and also plans to bring the production of additional H3s in Africa back to Shreveport.

Full story here. (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/03/business/03auto.html?ref=business)

gary88
06-02-09, 11:21 AM
Good riddance!

Jesda
06-02-09, 11:24 AM
Probably sold to an arab casino owner in exchange for a 7-11 gift card.

hueterm
06-02-09, 11:25 AM
While they weren't necessarily my cup of tea -- losing that brand is a loss to GM as a whole. Maybe the new owner will develop a competitor to the Wrangler, and GM will regret selling it.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
06-02-09, 12:20 PM
Chevy (or GMC) could make/sell whatever Hummer did.

hueterm
06-02-09, 12:23 PM
Chevy can also make whatever GMC does (and in fact, does -- except for the Denalis)...

To make a Chevy w/a pseudo military look would probably not be the best idea -- it's too niche.

I wish the new owners luck.

hueterm
06-02-09, 12:40 PM
HA HA HA -- if not for irony -- apparently the Chi-Coms are the ones to buy Hummer. This ought to be interesting...

dkozloski
06-02-09, 12:52 PM
We need to start producing IEDs now to be ready for them when they take over the country in Hummers.

RightTurn
06-02-09, 01:16 PM
发嗡嗡声的东西

hueterm
06-02-09, 01:22 PM
Don't cuss me ;-)

RightTurn
06-02-09, 01:25 PM
That's Chinese for "Hummer." :coffee:

The Tony Show
06-02-09, 01:33 PM
I thought it was pronounced "figh dollah"? No wait- that's Vietnamese.

Sandy
06-02-09, 01:39 PM
You can go into most all jewerly stores and ask to see an OPAL

Playdrv4me
06-02-09, 01:58 PM
You can go into most all jewerly stores and ask to see an OPAL

Indian villagers marry frogs to appease rain Gods. Story at 11.

Jesda
06-02-09, 01:58 PM
https://www.kranichs.com/product_images/Verragio@3641_M_VE-ins-7003_M.jpg
Opal Insignia

The Tony Show
06-02-09, 03:33 PM
Opal? Aren't they the ones that make the Camero?

dkozloski
06-02-09, 04:57 PM
Opal? Aren't they the ones that make the Camero?
Opal is almost like cameo.

77CDV
06-02-09, 06:39 PM
Thank God. Hummer was probably the dumbest thing GM's done in modern times. All short-term gain with no long-term potential. Good riddance to bad rubbish, I say.

Rodya234
06-02-09, 06:51 PM
an Opal Camero? Isn't that the car with all the wheel waytes?

Jesda
06-02-09, 07:49 PM
Hummer was a great idea, ruined. Failure to develop and mature the brand.

RightTurn
06-02-09, 09:50 PM
http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/political-pictures-arnold-scharzenegger-cow-tipping.jpg

I~LUV~Caddys8792
06-02-09, 10:05 PM
Hummer should have been more like Jeep...good 4x4's priced for regular people. Instead, they became a specialty/vanity brand and became obscure, especially in today's economy.

Destroyer
06-03-09, 01:45 PM
I always like the Tonka toy looks of Hummers. There are people that like Chevy Tahoes but hate Hummers even though they are the same basic vehicle. What is it about Hummer that is offensive to most?.

dkozloski
06-03-09, 01:59 PM
The format was actually brought forward by Lamborghini with the famous Rambo's Lambo.
http://jalopnik.com/cars/jalopnik-fantasy-garage/rambos-lambo-the-lamborghini-lm002-279128.php

gary88
06-03-09, 02:07 PM
mmm, lm002

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/gheb88/lm002.jpg

I got to ride in an H1 once in New York and it was just awesome. I hated the H2 the day it came out, and wanted to tear my hair out the one day I had an H3 rental.

thebigjimsho
06-03-09, 02:19 PM
I drove an H1 for a client who needed it brought in for service. It is military grade to the core. A nice toy, for sure, but not practical for anything close to daily living.

orconn
06-03-09, 02:52 PM
There are a few civilians for whom a Hummer makes sense. For the vast majority of Hummer buyers they are just "pimpmobiles" for outdoorsy type wannabees.

Jesda
06-03-09, 03:58 PM
I love the outdoors. Its a long walk from the parking space to the Wal-Mart entrance.

Playdrv4me
06-03-09, 04:04 PM
Hummer was stifled by a lack of product offering and the attempt to market-position itself as some kind of upscale brand. As much as I ***HATE*** the Jeep Patriot and Jeep Compass (a step TOO far in my opinion) it is Jeep's "4x4 for the every-man" attitude and wide breadth of product offerings that include everything from front wheel drive (GAAAH!) people movers to an AWD land-rocket (SRT8) and EVEN Diesels that keep that brand alive and kicking no matter what parent its saddled with.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
06-03-09, 09:38 PM
Hummer was stifled by a lack of product offering and the attempt to market-position itself as some kind of upscale brand. As much as I ***HATE*** the Jeep Patriot and Jeep Compass (a step TOO far in my opinion) it is Jeep's "4x4 for the every-man" attitude and wide breadth of product offerings that include everything from front wheel drive (GAAAH!) people movers to an AWD land-rocket (SRT8) and EVEN Diesels that keep that brand alive and kicking no matter what parent its saddled with.

And the other thing about Jeep, like I said before, is they are much more attainable than a Hummer, when it comes to price. That's probably one of the reasons that Jeep always succeeded to sell in big amounts and Hummer didn't.

Wide model ranges and low prices.

AMGoff
06-03-09, 09:40 PM
I always like the Tonka toy looks of Hummers. There are people that like Chevy Tahoes but hate Hummers even though they are the same basic vehicle. What is it about Hummer that is offensive to most?.

Ohhhh tisk tisk :tisk:... Don't think of saying that to certain H2 owners or else you'll be subjected to an hour long rant on how they're *nothing* like a Tahoe.

Of course that still doesn't change the fact that most of us know that's nothing but a bunch of BS used by some to make themsevles feel better for plunking down the extra dough on what amounts to different sheetmetal and a slightly mangled chassis... As it's still nothing more than a GMT800 with a couple of doodads bolted on.

Still not quite sure why I would pay a premium on something with the front end of a 2500 and a rear of a 1500... If I needed something "heavy-duty," why wouldn't I just get a 2500 to begin with and save some scratch in the process :hmm:

Anyway... I'm in agreement with those who say good-riddance. It was a pretty poor idea from the get-go and nothing more than an additional outlet to milk the SUV craze for all it was worth. Who knew that once that bubble burst, so would the brand's entire business model... What a shocker!?!?

I~LUV~Caddys8792
06-03-09, 09:52 PM
Wasn't the Governator the guy that pushed for the Hummer to get made for the public?

RightTurn
06-03-09, 09:57 PM
Why would anyone care what the Governator thinks about vehicle production? :confused: He drove a "real" Humvee IIRC.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
06-03-09, 10:01 PM
Yeah, but he was the guy that convinced GM to buy the brand and sell it to the public.

gary88
06-03-09, 10:02 PM
He helped Hummer expand by giving them lots of cash in return for Humvees :lol:

RightTurn
06-03-09, 10:06 PM
Yeah, but he was the guy that convinced GM to buy the brand and sell it to the public.

The original High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle was made in Mishawaka Indiana by AM General, not GM. Anyhow, the Chinese are welcome to it. :alchi:

blue07cts
06-03-09, 10:17 PM
i for one LOVE hummer's, nothing to do with the vehicle itself either, it's just the ultimate "piss off the guy in the prius" vehicle, therefore it will always hold a special place in my heart, besides without them, u couldn't GET one IN one!

I~LUV~Caddys8792
06-03-09, 10:43 PM
The original High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle was made in Mishawaka Indiana by AM General, not GM.

Thanks, Sarahpedia. :) :lol:

AMGoff
06-03-09, 10:45 PM
The Governator did start a vocal campaign of sorts for the military Humvee to be released to the civilian market and did in fact, petition it's manufacturer, AM General to do so after Desert Storm. AM General was originally tied in with Jeep through it's various parent companies to produce heavy duty industrial and military vehicles... It remained so all the way through the AMC years until AMC sold a controlling interest to Renault, since federal law didn't allow for defense contractors being owned by a foreign government and Renault was then partially owned by the French... AM General was then sold to another private defense contractor and then spun off as a subsidiary.

After Desert Storm, the Governator finally got his wish and AM General finally started producing a civilian version of the Humvee, to be known as the "Hummer." Afterwards in '98, GM simply bought the "Hummer" name from AM General... However, AM General was contracted by GM to continue manufacturing the Hummer/H1 until it was discontinued. In fact, although it was designed by, based off the GMT800, and all of its components are supplied by GM, the H2 is actually put together under contract by AM General as well... Only the H3 is completely built by GM itself next to Colorados/Canyons.

Actually... Now that I think of it, since that federal statute still exists, I wonder how this pending sale to the Chinese will affect production of the H2...?

RightTurn
06-03-09, 10:45 PM
Thanks, Sarahpedia. :) :lol:
:highfive:

Playdrv4me
06-04-09, 02:46 AM
The Governator did start a vocal campaign of sorts for the military Humvee to be released to the civilian market and did in fact, petition it's manufacturer, AM General to do so after Desert Storm. AM General was originally tied in with Jeep through it's various parent companies to produce heavy duty industrial and military vehicles... It remained so all the way through the AMC years until AMC sold a controlling interest to Renault, since federal law didn't allow for defense contractors being owned by a foreign government and Renault was then partially owned by the French... AM General was then sold to another private defense contractor and then spun off as a subsidiary.

After Desert Storm, the Governator finally got his wish and AM General finally started producing a civilian version of the Humvee, to be known as the "Hummer." Afterwards in '98, GM simply bought the "Hummer" name from AM General... However, AM General was contracted by GM to continue manufacturing the Hummer/H1 until it was discontinued. In fact, although it was designed by, based off the GMT800, and all of its components are supplied by GM, the H2 is actually put together under contract by AM General as well... Only the H3 is completely built by GM itself next to Colorados/Canyons.

Actually... Now that I think of it, since that federal statute still exists, I wonder how this pending sale to the Chinese will affect production of the H2...?

I think the H2s future is fairly bleak at this point. Most of the articles I've read pertaining to this Hummer sale seem to place emphasis on GMs promise to continue building the H3, with the occasional mention of the H2 and the Mishawaka plant buried somewhere on the down the line.

Still... Were it not for the HORRENDOUS fuel economy of that white 2003 (I mean really, my Escalade gets nearly 15MPG with the HIGHER potency version of the same engine, 10-11 in the H2 is just downright ridiculous) I must say I actually thoroughly enjoyed that stupid thing and managed a great price on it when I bought it. It was for the record, much better than the 2003 7 Series I traded it in on.