: Learn to merge . . . .



Aron9000
05-21-09, 02:51 AM
Just something that really pisses me off. My number one pet peeve while driving is people who try to merge at 45mph.

THAT ****ING RAMP IS 1/4 OF A MILE LONG FOR ****S SAKE!!!!!!!!!!!

This happened to me twice yesterday. The first one was downtown on a very short ramp. Some jackass in an Explorer is just dwadling along at 40mph when he reaches the merge point on the ramp. I am one car behind him.

The guy in front of me sees that there is no way we are going to beat this 60 mph semi-truck, so he just rides this guy's ass and merges about 2' from the end of the truck. I don't give him an inch of space and the guy behind me doesn't either. This idiot is now on the brakes and stops in the shoulder. I'm laying on the horn the whole time. The seven or eight cars behind him would've been screwed, but there was a huge opening behind this semi. This jackass almost caused a wreck.

The next time is in the suburbs on a very long ramp. When I had my Z28 Camaro, I could reach 110mph at the end of this ramp. Its a two lane ramp, and this jackass in a minivan is going so damn slow a big Uhaul-type box truck passes him on the right, along with 3 or 4 other cars. He's going maybe 50mph at the end of the ramp, traffic is going 75-80 I'm one car behind him again just laying on the horn again:bomb:

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
05-21-09, 03:38 AM
Time to install some train horns.

I have had this happen to me several times and have just learned to go around. If I have to cross the white line and merge a hundred feet or so before where I am supposed to so I can avoid being sandwiched between a retard and a semi, I will do it. Around me most of the on ramps have shoulders and I have passed people several times on the shoulder because they were attempting to merge onto the highway at 40 mph when cars are whizzing past at 70.

eXile
05-21-09, 07:54 AM
chicago driving is one of a kind eh dirt?

EcSTSatic
05-21-09, 09:40 AM
Kansas passed a law this year to restrict driving in the left lane outside of city limits. It means more traffic for the merging lane.

Aurora5000
05-21-09, 09:40 AM
The person in the continuing lane has the right of way. The person whose lane is merging with said lane must yield until they have a clear and safe path to enter that lane.

Most of the time when you see actions like this, someone is not paying full attention to driving...Usually on the cell phone.

EcSTSatic
05-21-09, 09:51 AM
That sounds good in theory but I find that traffic moves smoother if I move over and let the merging car have a clear lane. Traffic conditions don't always allow it which is why drivers should stay off the phone and stay aware of what is going on around them.

Submariner409
05-21-09, 10:35 AM
The real eye-opener is when you're looking over your left shoulder as you turn into the merge lane, assessing the traffic for a spot to get in, and the dork in front of you STOPS IN THE MERGE LANE !!!

Ranger
05-21-09, 11:08 AM
Some people just should not be allowed behind the wheel. Unfortunately, you cannot legislate stupidity.

EcSTSatic
05-21-09, 11:12 AM
The real eye-opener is when you're looking over your left shoulder as you turn into the merge lane, assessing the traffic for a spot to get in, and the dork in front of you STOPS IN THE MERGE LANE !!!

That happened to me once. It caused a chain reaction and my 280Z was totaled. The person that caused it wasn't touched and kept going. :nono:

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
05-21-09, 12:05 PM
chicago driving is one of a kind eh dirt?

I cannot stand idiots. I have to deal with them all day at work so I want nothing to do with them during my free time.

jey
05-21-09, 12:10 PM
The real eye-opener is when you're looking over your left shoulder as you turn into the merge lane, assessing the traffic for a spot to get in, and the dork in front of you STOPS IN THE MERGE LANE !!!

That reason alone is why I never look over my shoulder when there's a car in front of me anymore. First thing I do when I get it a car to drive it is adjust the driver's side mirror so I can see any traffic in the lane I'm about to merge into without having to look over.

Good thing too. Just this morning getting onto the Interstate, everyone's going 50 mph and all of a sudden someone at the front of the long line of cars merging STOPS. A tinted HHR was in front of me so I had no warning and all of a sudden HHR goes into full brakes hauling down to almost a stop. What's even dumber is this onramp gets its own lane when it merges with the Interstate, so merging was not even necessary! Just drive straight!

DopeStar 156
05-21-09, 12:37 PM
NJ doesn't let people cruise in the far left lane either. Sometimes the state police will roll through the left lane at like 85 MPH and tailgate just to clear it out. The worst is when someone on your right going 10 MPH slower than you decides to pull into your lane AND DOESN'T ACCELERATE!!! Usually this little lane jump is done right when my front bumper is like a foot behind their rear.....

I dunno when looking went outta style.....

C0RSA1R
05-21-09, 08:33 PM
chicago driving is one of a kind eh dirt?

I guess I'll have some learning to do when I first move out there. I only got to drive the rental car twice on my business trip to Lisle last week, both short trips. My company wouldn't let me rent one - some 'under 25' policy they have. I think it's a company policy, could be the rental company though. Either way, both times I saw a few eye-opening traffic maneuvers - and the Friday was rainy as hell, so visibility was poor.
:crowded:

Ranger
05-21-09, 09:12 PM
I guess I'll have some learning to do when I first move out there. I only got to drive the rental car twice on my business trip to Lisle last week, both short trips. My company wouldn't let me rent one - some 'under 25' policy they have. I think it's a company policy, could be the rental company though. Either way, both times I saw a few eye-opening traffic maneuvers - and the Friday was rainy as hell, so visibility was poor.
:crowded:

It's no different here than anywhere else. Perhaps a bit more congested than some places.

V-Eight
05-21-09, 09:27 PM
I guess I'll have some learning to do when I first move out there. I only got to drive the rental car twice on my business trip to Lisle last week, both short trips. My company wouldn't let me rent one - some 'under 25' policy they have. I think it's a company policy, could be the rental company though. Either way, both times I saw a few eye-opening traffic maneuvers - and the Friday was rainy as hell, so visibility was poor.
:crowded:

Yeah, a lot of rental companies have that policy. Some won't let you, some will force you to pay a huge premium

the cadillac kid
05-21-09, 09:35 PM
Yeah, I hate that. What I would do in situations like that is look over and see if I can get over or not. However, I have not done that in one year and 5 months. Back in January of last year I was in a similar situation; getting on the highway with an SUV in front that could NOT have been going faster than 35 miles an hour while the merge lane was about to end.
There was about 1/8 of a mile of no cars on the highway, so I'm not sure why this person was yielding, but I merged.

...Well, 2 seconds later my radar goes off. Cop, he said he saw me cross the white line. :banghead: Issued me a ticket for Careless Driving--that's AFTER I gave him a PBA card :bigroll:

indeed, people need to learn to merge...

V-Eight
05-21-09, 09:45 PM
Yeah, I hate that. What I would do in situations like that is look over and see if I can get over or not. However, I have not done that in one year and 5 months. Back in January of last year I was in a similar situation; getting on the highway with an SUV in front that could NOT have been going faster than 35 miles an hour while the merge lane was about to end.
There was about 1/8 of a mile of no cars on the highway, so I'm not sure why this person was yielding, but I merged.

...Well, 2 seconds later my radar goes off. Cop, he said he saw me cross the white line. :banghead: Issued me a ticket for Careless Driving--that's AFTER I gave him a PBA card :bigroll:

indeed, people need to learn to merge...

Wait, if you merge before someone else you get in trouble?

Ranger
05-21-09, 10:13 PM
Here are some interesting stats.
http://autos.yahoo.com/articles/autos_content_landing_pages/993/where-the-worst-drivers-live/;_ylc=X3oDMTE5ZmdmcGVkBF9TAzI3MTYxNDkEc2VjA2ZwLXRv ZGF5BHNsawN3b3JzdC1kcml2ZXJz

orconn
05-22-09, 12:00 AM
Generalizing about a state's bad drivers is very subjective. From my experience, Wisconsin would be a strong contender for bad drivers. Not so much because they are rude, but rather because they are oblivious. I imagine this has been further aggravated by the introduction of the cell phone.

Virginia would fall somewhere in the middle of the pack; suffering from the same affliction as Wisconsin, but to lesser degree. However, if one is talking about Northern Virginia, the causes are totally different. You would have to go to Philadelphia, Boston and New York to experience the same level of rudeness and "me" entitlement driving .... however, given the relatively high level odf education Northern Virginian drivers probably test better.

lawfive
05-22-09, 12:57 PM
Wait, if you merge before someone else you get in trouble?
Not per se. At least not in California... there's no law preventing you from crossing the white lines at an on-ramp (or for that matter the white lines at an off-ramp that form what cops call the "gore point").

EcSTSatic
05-22-09, 01:09 PM
I think the most considerate drivers I have met are in Seattle. As opposed to New York where no one signals because it gives their intentions away :mad2:
Here in the Midwest, turn signals may as well be optional, especially in Oklahoma.

mighty_quad4
05-22-09, 02:48 PM
Yeah, a lot of rental companies have that policy. Some won't let you, some will force you to pay a huge premium

right because everyone over 25 magically knows how to drive and never wrecks or does anything stupid. this requirement only proves how inadaquate our nations' drivers training really is.

V-Eight
05-22-09, 04:40 PM
right because everyone over 25 magically knows how to drive and never wrecks or does anything stupid. this requirement only proves how inadaquate our nations' drivers training really is.

Yeah, they say that people under that age are more likely to be reckless drivers. From what I've heard, in my area they charge a premium on anyone with a high powered car if they're under 25.

Ranger
05-22-09, 09:26 PM
Did you read the link in post #18? It makes mention of age.

Submariner409
05-22-09, 11:47 PM
There is absolutely, categorically, no state in the Union with drivers worse than Maryland, especially on the Washington and Baltimore beltways.

(and, yes, I do use mirrors as well as eye contact, but most Seville drivers will tell you that the side view mirrors are essentially worthless.)

thebigjimsho
05-23-09, 03:43 PM
The person in the continuing lane has the right of way. The person whose lane is merging with said lane must yield until they have a clear and safe path to enter that lane.

Most of the time when you see actions like this, someone is not paying full attention to driving...Usually on the cell phone.


That sounds good in theory but I find that traffic moves smoother if I move over and let the merging car have a clear lane. Traffic conditions don't always allow it which is why drivers should stay off the phone and stay aware of what is going on around them.
They can't write laws for every possible scenario but common sense shouldn't be that difficult. I always get annoyed when I have to start adjusting my speed as I merge onto a 4 lane highway off of another major highway and a single car is plodding along, alone, in the slow lane. If the person moved over, a lot of cars can smoothly merge.