: Bluetooth with Google HTC Dream G1?



K STS
05-14-09, 12:46 PM
Hi All,

When pairing the bluetooth feature of the nav system with my HTC Dream Google Android G1, whenever I make or receive calls, I hear the bluetooth in the car picking it up, but no sound is heard from the speakers. I checked on the phone to make sure Phone Audio was on, which it is. Any idea what I'm doing wrong? any one else get this to work?

K STS
05-14-09, 01:26 PM
Thats odd, I guess it appears to be the phone. When I make a call with bluetooth, it plays nothing over the bluetooth connection. Even if I stop bluetooth in call, I can hear nothing coming through the speaker, even if I select speakerphone during the call.

silverws6ta
05-14-09, 06:49 PM
Thats odd, I guess it appears to be the phone. When I make a call with bluetooth, it plays nothing over the bluetooth connection. Even if I stop bluetooth in call, I can hear nothing coming through the speaker, even if I select speakerphone during the call.

First I would advise making sure your HTC has the latest firmware update; then I would check the NAV headunit in your STS (nice color by the way -- identical combo to my mom's '05 1SG)

Follow ssstealth's post for the diagnostic mode entry, and drill down to the version screen. (I couldn't tell from your pics, but if your clock has 'AM' or 'PM' your are OLD SCHOOL firmware :) my moms was an October '04 build and had that until I had hers updated)

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-sts-v-series-forum/95755-nav-screen-diagnostic-mode-instructions.html

You can check against the TSB for versions that should be updated -- this corrects most Bluetooth and VR issues -- I had it performed on both STS-V and STS and was very satisfied with the results.

TSB = 05-08-126-001A
Doc = #1889058

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Subject:
Voice Recognition System Performs Poorly, Memory Seat Function Operation Complicated, Navigation Radio Screen Locks Up, Map DVD Message Displayed, Telephone Number Not Dialed via Bluetooth #05-08-126-001A - (01/18/2007)
Models: 2005-2007 Cadillac STS
Built Prior to December, 2006
with Navigation Radio (RPO YQ4)

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This bulletin is being revised to add additional conditions, update the service procedure and revise the part ordering information. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 05-08-126-001 (Section 08 -- Body & Accessories).
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Condition

Some customers may comment of any or all of the following conditions:
Poor performance of the voice recognition system.
The memory seat function operation is too complicated to set.
The navigation radio touch screen locks up.
The navigation radio displays "Disc Inserted is Not a Map DVD" even though a map DVD is installed.
A telephone number cannot be dialed via "Bluetooth". This occurs after the customer has added and/or deleted more than 50 inputs.
When using "Bluetooth", the outbound caller is very faint and cannot be heard well.

Cause

These conditions may be caused by the navigation system software.

Correction

Important: After the software updates are complete, the customer may notice that some functions have been moved to different screen locations. Some voice recognition commands that were used infrequently have been deleted. If a voice command is not recognized, the navigation radio will now prompt the user to speak the command up to three times.
Technicians are to perform a software update on the audio and navigation systems using the following procedure:
1. Record the customer's radio station presets.
2. Connect a Tech 2 to the vehicle and cycle the ignition to ON with the engine off. This mode can be reached by depressing the lower part of the ignition switch for about 5 or 6 seconds. The upper button, with a circle on it, will illuminate.
3. Wait until the audio or map screen is displayed after the Cadillac logo screen.
Important: If the navigation system software is the same or higher than version 0FC, the software update will not start and the navigation software update is not necessary. DO NOT insert disc 2 into the radio.
4. Eject the map DVD, if loaded. Load the navigation system software update CD, disc 1, into the map DVD loading slot.
5. The statement "Preparing to load system software" will appear on the screen along with a progress bar. When the green progress bar reaches the end, the navigation software update using disc 1 is complete and the system will automatically restart.
6. Eject software update disc 1 from the map DVD slot.
7. Load the audio system software update, disc 2, into the map DVD slot.
8. A progress bar will be displayed on the lower left side of the screen. Japanese text will appear above the progress bar. When the yellow progress bar reaches the end, the audio system software update using disc 2 is complete and the system automatically restarts.
9. Eject the audio system update CD, disc 2, from the map DVD slot.
10. Use the Tech 2 to complete the following steps to initialize the audio and navigation software:
10.1. Select: Diagnostics
10.2. Select: Model year
10.3. Select: Vehicle type
10.4. Select: Product make
10.5. Select: Product line
10.6. Select: Product series
10.7. Select: F7 Body & Accessory
10.8. Select: Entertainment
10.9. Select: F5 Module Set-up
10.10. Select: F2 Navigation Radio
10.11. Select: F0 Audio Update Initialize (takes approximately 30 seconds)
10.12. Select: "Next". Note: A loss of communication will be experienced, power the Tech 2 off and then back on and follow steps 10.1 through 10.9, then proceed to step 10.13 to continue initializing the Navigation system.
10.13. Select: F1 Navigation Update Initialize (takes approximately 30 seconds)
10.14. Select: "On". The "Commanded State" will switch from "none" to "on" and the screen will flash and come up to the radio display.
10.15. Exit back to the "Body/Accessory" screen then select F7: Body/Accessory
10.16. Select: Entertainment
10.17. Select: F4 Module information
10.18. Select: F1 Navigation radio. Verify that the software versions are:
- Navigation system software version = 0FC1
- Audio system software version = 010C
30. Cycle the ignition to OFF.
31. Open and close the driver's door and wait for 60 seconds.
32. Cycle the ignition to ON.
33. Load the customer's map DVD into the lower slot located below the navigation system screen.
34. After inserting the map DVD, touch the "I agree" screen button. If the "I agree" screen does not come up, select the "globe"/map key to access the navigation screen.
35. Reset the radio presets to the customer's preferences.
36. Verify that the navigation system reflects the correct location of the vehicle. If necessary, recalibrate the navigation system. Refer to the STS Owner Navigation Manual supplement (pages 2-59 and 2-60) for more information.
37. Cycle the ignition to OFF. The software update is now complete.

Voice Recognition Commands

Please provide an updated list of the voice recognition commands that are currently available to your customers. Customers with a 2005 model year vehicle may not have had some of these commands available to them with their old navigation system software. Refer to the latest list that is a part of the Owner Manual Supplement on the Navigation System that is available in SI. Information about voice recognition is available in SI. Refer to Voice Recognition.

Parts Information

Obtain a software upgrade disc set by contacting the GM Navigation Disc Center at 1-877-628-3472 per Corporate Bulletin Number 06-08-44-012A (DVD Navigation Update Program, AVN Software Update Discs and Ordering Information). The center will require your BAC code, dealer code and shipping address. Advanced Vehicle Navigation (AVN) software discs are for the dealer to update the navigation radio software only. They DO NOT update or replace the navigation map disc that is supplied with the vehicle. Please order these parts only as needed. There is a limited supply of these discs available. Do not order these discs for stock. The AVN software update discs can be used to reprogram more than one vehicle. The first update disc for each part number is free. Subsequent copies of the same part number for the same dealer will cost $50.
Part Number Description Qty
15943724 Disc - Navigation Data (Software Update Disc Set) 1

Warranty Information

For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:
Labor Operation Description Labor Time
R9707* Radio/Navigation Reprogram 0.7 hr
*This labor operation is for bulletin use only. It will not be published in the Labor Time Guide.

GM bulletins are intended for use by professional technicians, NOT a "do-it-yourselfer". They are written to inform these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or to provide information that could assist in the proper service of a vehicle. Properly trained technicians have the equipment, tools, safety instructions, and know-how to do a job properly and safely. If a condition is described, DO NOT assume that the bulletin applies to your vehicle, or that your vehicle will have that condition. See your GM dealer for information on whether your vehicle may benefit from the information.
WE SUPPORT VOLUNTARY TECHNICIAN CERTIFICATION
Copyright General Motors Corporation. All Rights Reserved.
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Document ID# 1889058

EChas3
05-14-09, 10:13 PM
Have you ever paired a different phone under this driver profile? Could the phone volume just be turned down all theway?

K STS
05-14-09, 10:56 PM
I got it working by updating the baseband on my cell phone to the newest radio. But what would be the best way going about getting the nav updated?

Thanks

Jay

EChas3
05-15-09, 12:20 AM
It's a dealer thing. Requires a Tech 2 tool and a disk set that GM only provides to dealers once before charging big $. There are some threads with the detail, but that's my summary. There is a way to check your level, but even my wife's 2007 is an old level.

This firmware upgrade is worthwhile. It impoved my Bluetooth, VR & ease of setting options. If not under warranty, they ought to quote you a firm price.

silverws6ta
05-15-09, 10:18 AM
It's a dealer thing. Requires a Tech 2 tool and a disk set that GM only provides to dealers once before charging big $. There are some threads with the detail, but that's my summary. There is a way to check your level, but even my wife's 2007 is an old level.

This firmware upgrade is worthwhile. It impoved my Bluetooth, VR & ease of setting options. If not under warranty, they ought to quote you a firm price.

The link I posted above will guide you step by step through the diagnostic screens if you are interested in checking --

This is the most current, and where you will be after the upgrade:
- Navigation system software version = 0FC1
- Audio system software version = 010C

Dealers are supplied with one two disc set (my service manager keeps them in his drawer) and subsequent copies are $50/ea; My STS-V was the first one that had been done at my dealership so they had to order them. After mine was deemed a success I had mother's done as well.

EChas3
05-15-09, 08:49 PM
Thanks Silverws6ta. I didn't read the details of your post as it looked like a shop manual excerpt. I recall an earlier thread that made me think GM was much more hard line about the disk set. At that price, some tuner shops may be able to do the upgrade cheaper than a dealer.

On the other hand, my dealer is working hard to survive this economic downturn. They swapped my wife's snow tires off, road-force balanced the Summer ones and even put it on the alignment machine for less than our local independent or Midas would just swap tires. Maybe your dealer is the best route.

silverws6ta
05-15-09, 10:25 PM
Thanks Silverws6ta. I didn't read the details of your post as it looked like a shop manual excerpt. I recall an earlier thread that made me think GM was much more hard line about the disk set. At that price, some tuner shops may be able to do the upgrade cheaper than a dealer.

On the other hand, my dealer is working hard to survive this economic downturn. They swapped my wife's snow tires off, road-force balanced the Summer ones and even put it on the alignment machine for less than our local independent or Midas would just swap tires. Maybe your dealer is the best route.


My dealer didn't get 'THE LETTER' today - service manager text me about 6PM EDT to let me know (this round anyway) but you are correct -- but the GM terms and Chrysler terms are two different worlds.. Roger Penske and Metrolina are both HUGE Chrysler dealerships here in the SE .. bankruptcy = no protection great or small for them unfortunately.

K STS
05-19-09, 08:26 PM
i go into the setup on the nav, but cannot find the exact screens to find digits related to:

- Navigation system software version = 0FC1
- Audio system software version = 010C

Where exactly are these found? All I find are dates, like 01/06

EChas3
05-19-09, 08:54 PM
There a post with pictures. I printed some of it and may have a link. I may take a bit. Anyone else...?

K STS
05-19-09, 09:54 PM
I saw the post with pictures of the link you provided, but I diddnt see pictures showing where the audio/nav version numbers were. Quit racing your STS4 and help me out!

EChas3
05-19-09, 11:18 PM
A member named Bill Sadler did a great write-up. I think he posted a link to download from his own site because my hard copy doesn't look like I printed it from here.

On the Software Information screen, my 2006 had the following before the upgrade:

COMP.ID: DQ
Broadcast Code: 3578
Supplier Code. : M
Trace No.: 051290790
BMP No.: 0015233578 OAA
BMP No.: 0015233578 OAA
SM No.1: 0015233579 OAA
SM No.2: 0015233580 OAA

<Next Page>
NAVI: 0F005
MAP DVD: V 03.07.1
DVD ID: DVS-300X
Soft Rel: 5-03/11(5070)
Audio: 01.06
DVDX Mech: 030410N1
HARD Rel: 5-05/09(5129)
Pro.day: 5-05/09(5129)

<Right Column>
DVDX CORE: 36.10
DVDX APL: 08.50
Vehicle: GMX295
DVD F/W: 2.90
BOOT: 2A06
SWITCH: 00.09


His upgraded unit (& write-up) had the following differences:

Broadcast Code: 3847
Trace No.: 053390233
BMP No.: 0015793847 OAA
BMP No.: 0015793847 OAA
SM No.1: 0015876179 OAA
SM No.2: 0015876178 OAA

<Next Page>
NAVI: 0F905
MAP DVD: V 02.080 (He has an old Map Disk) :)
Soft Rel: 5-10/14(5287)
Audio: 01.08
HARD Rel: 5-12/05(5339)
Pro.day: 5-12/05(5339)

<Right Column>
No differences.


I didn't write down my upgraded codes. The wife's 2007 is in between. She's back home & more fun than this post... Later.

EChas3
05-20-09, 08:05 PM
After my Navi upgrade in January, the following codes changed:

Navi: 0FC15
Soft Rel: 6-03/29(6088)
Audio: 01.0C


Here's the procedure:

1. From the Navigation screen, press Menu.
2. On the Nav. Menu that shows big Change Route & Memory Points soft keys, press & hold a 'hidden soft key' located above the Memory Points soft key but below the top line of the display. After 5 seconds or so, a keypad appears with a prompt to Enter Diag PIN...
3. Enter 9448 and press 'OK'.
4. A menu is displayed. Some options are really cool. Bill Sadler recommends being especially careful with 'Ship Mode' and 'Touch Screen' because you could corrupt something that requires a trained tech to fix.
5. Software Info leads to the information shown above.

6. NO - THERE IS NO PLACE TO UNLOCK THE 'INMOTION' LIMITATIONS OF THE SYSTEM. But it is way cool!

Have fun!

K STS
05-20-09, 08:27 PM
My car is at the dealership getting worked on. When I get it back, I will check this out. Thanks Echas homie3.

EChas3
05-20-09, 08:55 PM
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