: B-Pillar lights on 89 Brougham D'elegance



Hydro626
04-27-09, 12:22 AM
are the B-pillar lights on an 89 brougham d'elegance supposed to light up, or would i have to modify them to do so?

Aron9000
04-27-09, 02:25 AM
Yes they light up, and yes they tend to break when they get older. I think the part that most often fails is the transformer, someone else can chime in on this though.

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
04-28-09, 09:01 AM
As far as I am aware the transformer is actually the more reliable part. The electroluminescent paper that was used is easily destroyed by UV rays and because GM was retarded in the 80's they never put a UV coating on them.

Hydro626
04-28-09, 10:07 AM
so then how can i fix it?

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
04-28-09, 12:00 PM
Try and find good ones. These things were not designed to be fixed, they are sealed shut. You can buy EL tape on the internet in several places now but you will have to cut open the lights somehow to replace it.

Hydro626
04-28-09, 04:22 PM
i also found on an older thread that they sometimes go out because of an inverter in the trunk that fails. does that sound about right? id rather just replace that than have to find other lights that worked since ive never seen any that did.

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
04-29-09, 12:51 AM
Test it. Take a voltmeter and measure the power coming out of the inverter. It should be around 110V AC. The inverters do go bad but the lights themselves are most likely toast as well, especially if the car sat outside for any length of time. I have working lights on my '88 but the inverter went out a few months ago and I have yet to find a good one. The inverter is just as hard to find as the lights themselves (took me almost a year to find working lights for it).

sven914
04-29-09, 07:18 PM
Has anyone ever tried to replace the electroluminescent paper with a strip of LED's?

Before I found out that the lights were supposed to function, I was going to replace what ever was inside with LED's and wire them to turn signals. I never got the lights out because the screws holding the padding to the B-pillar are stripped (half of them, the heads turn but the screws won't come out.)

Brother_B
04-29-09, 09:26 PM
I don't know why, but I downloaded this a while back. I don't know if it's good or what.

http://www.bilzweb.com/roadmaster/Roadmaster%20Opera%20Light%20Retrofit.doc

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
04-30-09, 02:57 AM
LEDs may be hard to fit in there. The distance between the lens of the light and the housing is only like a 10th of an inch, which is what makes them flush to the body and why they used the paper in the first place. Also, the paper produces a very pleasing light that does not violate any state codes. It is very soft, soothing, and evenly spread light.

On the other hand, LEDs produce a rather harsh and bright light. They can be dimmed but it is unlikly that you will get as even of a light pattern as what you get with the paper. Here are pictures of both my '88 and my '90. Unfortunately the inverter on my '88 took a dump at the end of last year so if anybody can get me a working one I would pay you handsomely.


http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1988%20Fleetwood/100_5280.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1988%20Fleetwood/100_5278.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/IMG_0135.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/IMG_0136.jpg

MaineWater
04-30-09, 09:31 AM
What is a good web site that sells the cut outs? I looked, but did not really find any in small amounts.

brougham
04-30-09, 06:12 PM
Everyone says its the transformer that dies and makes them stop working but its always the lights I see that are dead and the rest is fine.