: Best service manual (rebuilding)



32vmonte
03-27-09, 09:40 PM
What service manual would you suggest I use to tear down and rebuild a 96 Northstar motor?

I will be able to manage tearing it down and putting it together, but I want the best detailed torque specs. and preferably something with a good description on how to time the cams. The cams are what have me worried, me and my dad can put a SBC or BBC together with just on camshaft no problem but when it comes to the N* I'm gonna need some guidance for sure to get everything lined back up and right.


Also what brand and which gasket kit should I use?


Is there a kit that I should look for that is a complete lower and upper gasket kit?


I am planning to give the head stud kit a try and hope that it holds these heads down. The timesert job was priced to me at $600 for the job and thats not including the new head bolts also vs. stud kit for $549 and its said and done.


Thanks

STSS
03-27-09, 09:55 PM
Buy a genuine FSM. If you spend a few weeks (or more) on ebay, you can get a cheap, nice set, I think mine cost me 50 or 60 bucks shipped.

Not sure on gaskets, ask 97Eldo, the guy who sells the stud kit, I think he can recommend what gaskets to use.

32vmonte
03-27-09, 10:17 PM
I asked 97eldo he told me use felpro I thought, but I tried to find a full kit or w/e on a site and all I found was all the individual gaskets and what not.

Also what would I search on ebay? Full service manual for 96 N*?

If I can't get a hold of a FSM will a haynes of chiltons do for cam alignment and torque spec wise?

Thanks alot

STSS
03-27-09, 11:35 PM
I wouldnt use a chilton to tell me how to change my oil.

here is a new FSM... $130
http://www.helminc.com/helm/product2.asp?class_2=CAD&mk=Cadillac&yr=1996&md=Seville&dt=&module=&from=result&Style=&Sku=GMP96EK&itemtype=N&mscsid=M0B69XM3C6298MVK3VEMMFT3BX0M47W9

ebay... not much right now in your year
http://shop.ebay.com/items/__seville-factory-service-manual_W0QQ_kwZsevilleQQ_kwZfactoryQQ_kwZserviceQQ _kwZmanualQQ_ckwZ96?_trksid=p3286.m104.l1199

Theres plenty of info out there about what seals to replace while the motor is out, youll have to search (search for seals and HGs).

32vmonte
03-27-09, 11:45 PM
I wouldnt use a chilton to tell me how to change my oil.

here is a new FSM... $130
http://www.helminc.com/helm/product2.asp?class_2=CAD&mk=Cadillac&yr=1996&md=Seville&dt=&module=&from=result&Style=&Sku=GMP96EK&itemtype=N&mscsid=M0B69XM3C6298MVK3VEMMFT3BX0M47W9

ebay... not much right now in your year
http://shop.ebay.com/items/__seville-factory-service-manual_W0QQ_kwZsevilleQQ_kwZfactoryQQ_kwZserviceQQ _kwZmanualQQ_ckwZ96?_trksid=p3286.m104.l1199

Theres plenty of info out there about what seals to replace while the motor is out, youll have to search (search for seals and HGs).


LOL at the haynes manual statement. I thought that anything that comes off the motor that has a seal needs a new one during reinstall.

The service manuals look good, I need one ASAP too which suck because I dont want to pay 130.....

Thanks for the help

Ranger
03-28-09, 12:12 AM
Even if you spend $130 for a new set of manuals from Helm it will be money well spent and pay for itself in the end. I could not agree with STSS more on the Chiltons & Haynes.

AJxtcman
03-28-09, 04:51 PM
I asked 97eldo he told me use felpro I thought, but I tried to find a full kit or w/e on a site and all I found was all the individual gaskets and what not.

Also what would I search on ebay? Full service manual for 96 N*?

If I can't get a hold of a FSM will a haynes of chiltons do for cam alignment and torque spec wise?

Thanks alot

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-tech-tips/111034-93-99-northstar-dis-assembly-inspection.html

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/northstar-performance-technical-discussion/111017-93-99-o-h-assembly.html

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-tech-tips/117232-case-halves-reseal-fwd-rtv-sealant.html

32vmonte
03-29-09, 03:26 AM
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-tech-tips/111034-93-99-northstar-dis-assembly-inspection.html

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/northstar-performance-technical-discussion/111017-93-99-o-h-assembly.html

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-tech-tips/117232-case-halves-reseal-fwd-rtv-sealant.html

That's alot of great info there, can I use this? Or should I still purchase the manual.

These links you posted look like it covers mostly everything, but where it says check service manual to see if certain bolts need thread locker? Whats that about.

Thanks alot :thumbsup::worship:

Submariner409
03-29-09, 11:02 AM
32v, Go ahead and get the manual.....there's a lot of info in there, in the engine maintenance and overhaul chapters, that you can't pick up anywhere else.

The insides of these Northstars bear absolutely no resemblance to any of our old SBC's, 302's, or my specialty, marine Olds 455's. Whole different breed of cat. You need the specs and procedures to begin work. (That Northstar half-case/crankcase is the biggest main bearing stud girdle you've ever seen - and it's stock production.)

32vmonte
03-29-09, 02:02 PM
Well I guess that sums up all my questions. For now...

Thanks guys

z06bigbird
03-29-09, 02:23 PM
Two other suggestions:

1. Maybe someone here will lend you an old Helms manual for a few weeks.
2. Go to a local Caddy dealer and talk with the mechanics and/or service mgr. I suspect that if you left them a $50 deposit, they might lend you one or even sell on to you for less than that. They have everything on computer today.

Might need to go to dealer with clean socks and clean underwear. LOL

32vmonte
03-29-09, 02:42 PM
Two other suggestions:

1. Maybe someone here will lend you an old Helms manual for a few weeks.
2. Go to a local Caddy dealer and talk with the mechanics and/or service mgr. I suspect that if you left them a $50 deposit, they might lend you one or even sell on to you for less than that. They have everything on computer today.

Might need to go to dealer with clean socks and clean underwear. LOL

I might try the dealer, then I don't have to wait for it to ship and all.