: Pics of Avic F90BT and theft deterrent



mtflight
03-27-09, 07:34 PM
Any ideas on how to avoid theft on these things?

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h267/mtflight/dhs/IMG_0563.jpg

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h267/mtflight/dhs/IMG_0578.jpg

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Here's the theft deterrent...
:histeric:

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h267/mtflight/dhs/IMG_0538.jpg

I'd like an alarm with some kind of motion sensor, but I do not want to be one of those people who wake up the entire neighborhood because their alarm is hypersensitive.

Is there any way to include something that detects motion in addition to the factory alarm? I'd hate to wake up to a broken window and torn up dash.

mtflight
03-27-09, 10:58 PM
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h267/mtflight/dhs/mail.jpg

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smooth black knob coming soon.


This is what was a month or so ago:

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h267/mtflight/dhs/photo.jpg

and about a month before that:

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h267/mtflight/dhs/IMG_0272.jpg
(yup column shifter and Harman Kardon Drive + Play plus HD radio by overhead console).

That's a Beltronics Vector 955, hardwired (yet removable from windshield)

timothyr
03-28-09, 12:28 AM
wait till you get the thomknob....make all the difference, I was about to tell you to buy it.
As far as the alarm, any dei brand is worthwhile, and you may be able to add their motion sensor to your existing. Personally I am running an older valet with full motion, in 4 year it has falsed twice, once because the garbage truck almost hit it, the second because the bastard did. if you stand right next to the car (within about 6in) for more than 35 seconds it will give a warn away signal (4 quick honks), stay there (again within 6 in) and it goes off. If I leave the windows down, as soon as you stick your hand where the window would be goes off instantly and attempts to put the windows up. took me about 2 days to tune the whole thing properly, but like I said, it has falsed twice (this includes its internal recording), both times with cause; and the car has never lost as much as a hood ord. or center cap (and its been left in some pretty sketchy areas of LA.

I am sure part of it is also luck, but the way the car acts definattly makes someone think before they hit it. Keep in mind the main goal in security is just to get them to move on to the next car.

timothyr
03-28-09, 12:33 AM
BTW, install looks great, the only thing I cant stand about my unit (other than the was it sorts MP3's) is the start-up time....I have mine start loading when I unlock the car, and when listening to SD it still takes awhile.

mtflight
03-28-09, 01:03 AM
BTW, install looks great, the only thing I cant stand about my unit (other than the was it sorts MP3's) is the start-up time....I have mine start loading when I unlock the car, and when listening to SD it still takes awhile.

I'm sure you have the firmware update. As soon as I plug in my iphone it starts the music although the unit is not ready for use right away. Or if I leave it on HD radio or FM same thing. If I left it off, then I'm stuck with silence until it finishes loading. The reverse cam works even while it's still loading.

It helps to turn off the voice recognition catalog, but using an SD card may not utilize that (ipod/iphone does). You probably knew that already (since u know about the Thomknob).

So I'm interested in that alarm system, did you install it yourself? How much would I expect to spend? I probably would attempt the install myself. The complicated part seems to bypass the passkey system, or whatever, and a lot of these alarms have no specific instructions for our cars (I don't like being in the dark).

Thanks for the input! Any pics of your install?

timothyr
03-28-09, 02:04 AM
I kinda went over the top on my alarm, i have full window automation, remote start, temp control, paging, etc, and I did the install myself (so I could add things like starting the damn avic on disarm). all in all I am probably into the alarm for about $950; part of it is for the convience of not having to get into a car that is 180 degrees during the phoenix summers, and making sure that if someone who is not supposed to be in the car is there they are in pain...you can do a very nice system for about $300 if you do it yourself; just stick to dei's products, they make some of the best stuff, and the easiest to work with.

dealing with the passkey is easy, dei has a direct interface that is very much plug and play.

when you decide you want to do it PM me and I'll send you my phone number, both for advice, and because there is an awesome wholesale place out here that carries DEI's full line, I used to be a DEI dealer, and this place is selling at around 5% over cost.

I have not connected my back-up cam yet but its good to know I can use it before it gets to full load. From a cold start it takes me 48 seconds to get to the point of playing SD, for any other source it takes about 18 seconds. How do you like the HD? worth it?

mtflight
03-28-09, 01:19 PM
I kinda went over the top on my alarm, i have full window automation, remote start, temp control, paging, etc, and I did the install myself (so I could add things like starting the damn avic on disarm). all in all I am probably into the alarm for about $950; part of it is for the convience of not having to get into a car that is 180 degrees during the phoenix summers, and making sure that if someone who is not supposed to be in the car is there they are in pain...you can do a very nice system for about $300 if you do it yourself; just stick to dei's products, they make some of the best stuff, and the easiest to work with.

dealing with the passkey is easy, dei has a direct interface that is very much plug and play.

when you decide you want to do it PM me and I'll send you my phone number, both for advice, and because there is an awesome wholesale place out here that carries DEI's full line, I used to be a DEI dealer, and this place is selling at around 5% over cost.

I have not connected my back-up cam yet but its good to know I can use it before it gets to full load. From a cold start it takes me 48 seconds to get to the point of playing SD, for any other source it takes about 18 seconds. How do you like the HD? worth it?

Thanks for all your help. I'm definitely interested in something intimidating to would-be thieves... get too close, and know it's aware. Those talking alarms were pretty cool I thought "Please step away from the vehicle" but apparently they're just cheap things that have multiple false alarms.

I do like HD a lot. The unit was $50, shipped, on amazon (the HD component). I had HD before, and I like a few of the stations (HD2 stations, that aren't available over analog). It can get on your nerves if you're too close to the end of coverage area and it goes from analog to digital or plain cuts out in the case of HD2/3s, but u can always say "change source, FM" if that is the case.

Some stations compress more than they should, so it sounds lossy, but some are great.. apparently I read somewhere there is a higher kbps on HD radio than there is in XM/Sirius sometimes. In DFW there are a handful of HD stations that I listen to... not that many. Some of the HD2 stations have very few interruptions, and unique programming... the more generic ones have all the ads.

I'm wondering about a steering button interface... I don't have anything hooked up right now.

I have to fix a wheel hub and a tie rod end and get an alignment, this month which will set me back a way's but next month sounds good in terms of the alarm. It's under what my deductible would be if someone broke into it.

timothyr
03-28-09, 02:56 PM
The place I was speaking of out here has the PAC interface (for steering wheel) at $32, cheapest I could find anywhere else has been in the $50~55 range.
Gonna order the HD today, it makes me feel manly to have more sources than I could ever listen to, now I just neet to find two external sources so I can be totally full ;)

The biggest key to any system with a warn away or motion function is proper tuning; and dei does make an add on voice module. Personally I kept my system sounding stock for arm, disarm, and warn away (it will either run silent or quick horn chirps); however when it goes off there are 4 pain generators (137db) inside the cabin, and 3 additional cadillac multitone horns between under the hood and rear. Power to the external horns is suppled by the audio system battery in the trunk (as well as the alarm brain) with each seperatly fused, the internals are powered by seperate rechargaeble batteries with latching relays. I figure if someone knows exactly what they are doing they could probably get the whole thing quiet in about 30 mins, but honestly, trying to deal with the pain generators will drive you nuts after about 10. Its this sick mentality I have...it goes like this, if you want to work that hard to steal it, go for it, but I will make sure your hearing is gone so you cant enjoy it and you will need to learn sign language before you can pawn it

mtflight
03-29-09, 12:51 PM
The place I was speaking of out here has the PAC interface (for steering wheel) at $32, cheapest I could find anywhere else has been in the $50~55 range.
Gonna order the HD today, it makes me feel manly to have more sources than I could ever listen to, now I just neet to find two external sources so I can be totally full ;)

The biggest key to any system with a warn away or motion function is proper tuning; and dei does make an add on voice module. Personally I kept my system sounding stock for arm, disarm, and warn away (it will either run silent or quick horn chirps); however when it goes off there are 4 pain generators (137db) inside the cabin, and 3 additional cadillac multitone horns between under the hood and rear. Power to the external horns is suppled by the audio system battery in the trunk (as well as the alarm brain) with each seperatly fused, the internals are powered by seperate rechargaeble batteries with latching relays. I figure if someone knows exactly what they are doing they could probably get the whole thing quiet in about 30 mins, but honestly, trying to deal with the pain generators will drive you nuts after about 10. Its this sick mentality I have...it goes like this, if you want to work that hard to steal it, go for it, but I will make sure your hearing is gone so you cant enjoy it and you will need to learn sign language before you can pawn it

Wow what a cool system--complete with pain generation and hearing loss, lol. If money was no issue I'd go for the same. I'd throw in a camera with a flash to take a pic of the bastard too, and copy the police station and me on it.

Where would I find information on the available DEI systems? I just did a search and found a lot of different stuff some of which is not DEI.

You will like the HD, hopefully there is programming in your area that is broadcast in HD, that you like.

http://www.hdradioalliance.com/station_guides/widget.php?id=15&utm_source=Station+Guide+Proper&utm_term=Phoenix,+AZ&utm_medium=Widget&utm_campaign=Station+Guides+on+hdradio.com


Regarding the steering wheel button interface--would I lose the temperature control?

I wish the voice command could be programmed, but that is one function that is not available on the remote, I believe.

timothyr
03-29-09, 02:13 PM
you get to keep the temp control, if just reroutes the audio stuff. check out directeded.com - that is there main site, they own several different trade names (clifford, ungo, viper, etc) but to be honest on the wholesale/installers circuit you can pick up the generic dei part and save a ton. ie a clifford two window automation system is about $149, the dei 530 (which is identical except the casing) can be had for $50.

It can be a little cryptic to figure out, but if you go through and find what systems/accessories you want I can match them with the dealer PN and tell you what DEI part you need (I still have my distributors cross reference). Part of the DEI sales agreement requires that you install all parts, so many places that sell them dont disclose it...it lets them keep the margins reasonable.

mtflight
03-29-09, 03:21 PM
I'd be happy with something that would beep or talk when someone stuck around too close (i.e. close enough to peek through the tinted window). Something that would let the thief know not to mess with my car.

I am new to the world of aftermarket security systems, so I appreciate your help and guidance. :thumbsup: my screename on here @gmail.com is my e-mail addy.

I heard they bump the car and if the car does nothing they can break a window and steal the stereo without the factory alarm going off--since the door is never opened. That would be a nightmare to wake up to!

What functions of the AVIC would I be able to control through the steering wheel buttons? I have 6 buttons: voice command/end, volume up down, seek up/down, temp up/down, and 2 cruise control buttons.


Again thanks :-)

timothyr
03-29-09, 07:52 PM
I know for fact the PAC unit will giive you the vol and seek/track control, I am about 90% sure that your voice command can also be made to work for both activating the avic VC and source change.

your remark about how a car is chosen is pretty close to correct. no security system will ever completely stop a thief, if they want it bad enough they will wait for the alarm to stop and then cut the battery cable from underneath. this happened to a afriend of mine, his system was similar to mine and we booth would have loved to have seen the bastards face when he cut the battery cable only to find there is now a cadillac horn blairing into his face...we both secretly hoped he jumped enough to rip his face open under the car. Properly tuned glass and motion, as well as a decent back-up battery, keep it parked in an area where it will get attention and you can get them to move on. along your thoughts, on the seville my front windows are at 15%, if you stand next to it took long it lets you know its paying attention, touch the glass and it will wake up the neighbors. The time delay on the warn away gives someone plenty of time to park next to you in a parking lot without getting blasted, but if they get too close, or stay too long GAME ON!!!

sorry; i do love my sound and alarm system....I will post pics soon.

mtflight
03-30-09, 02:06 AM
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h267/mtflight/IMG_0584.jpg

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h267/mtflight/dhs/IMG_0588.jpg

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timothyr
03-30-09, 03:13 AM
okay...now i gotta ask,
1. how much of the "bose" system still exists/
2. does it always say "driver 1" or did you find a way for it to read (and load the .bmp) for "driver 2"

I just gotta make sure your not showing my up =)

mtflight
03-30-09, 03:39 AM
okay...now i gotta ask,
1. how much of the "bose" system still exists/
2. does it always say "driver 1" or did you find a way for it to read (and load the .bmp) for "driver 2"

I just gotta make sure your not showing my up =)

1) The amp and speakers all factory BOSE (using AXXESS GMOS-06 interface)

2) Always says "Driver 1" because I'm the only driver :thumbsup:

mtflight
05-22-10, 01:01 AM
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h267/mtflight/photo-3.jpg I adapted a Double Din metra kit to better fit (the original and the GMOS-06 are now available for cheap if anyone is interested)

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h267/mtflight/photo2-2.jpg

d3adpool
05-30-10, 03:04 PM
how cheap?