: A good idea for the forum.....MOD STICKIES



AlmostAV
03-11-09, 04:11 PM
Just thought it would be nice since we are probably going to be getting a large amount of new 1st gen V owners who are looking for information. Thought it would be nice if we had a MOD STICKY.

An example of what I see in this "MOD STICKY" thread....each subject would be a link or have a dedicated post

Intakes
Exhaust
Headers
----------->Kooks
-------------------->dyno charts, performance info,
--------------------> personal experience (member from forum commenting on how he likes the product on his V)
--------------------> supporting mods
-------------------->install guide
--------------------> links to vendor/best price available
---------->TPIS
---------->BB
---------->Katech
Cams
Wheels

etc

I feel like this would benefit us all, provide a nice easy to find, easy to navigate database about modding the V, and it will minimize the amount of repeated questions being posted daily on the forum.

Let me know if you guys think this is a good idea. Hopefully someone (forum admin?) will be interested in compiling it.

:bouncy:

Thanks

stuckey
03-11-09, 05:02 PM
Sounds like a great idea. Now get to work gathering all the "good" information and send it to an admin

814V
03-11-09, 05:07 PM
:yeah:

heavymetals
03-11-09, 05:26 PM
It would be easier if people would use search instead of creating new threads about the same thing.

To group and sort all the posts into their respective catagory is a venture I don't want to work on.

Lord Cadillac
03-11-09, 05:28 PM
It does sound rough - but if the information is provided to me, I will link it all into a sticky - or even an HTML page.. Keep me posted...

Thank you...

AlmostAV
03-11-09, 05:30 PM
agreed, a lot of the stuff can be taken off the cadillacfaq, it just needs to be formatted and organized. I guess it would take more time than I thought......I just thought itd be nice to have it compiled nicely in this forum

heavymetals
03-11-09, 05:34 PM
The Cadillac FAQ is a seperate site.

It is owned and operated by Reed.

CadiBlk
03-11-09, 05:39 PM
There should be a sticky stating that the FAQ exists and new members should have to take a quiz from information on the FAQ before they can post.

Lord Cadillac
03-11-09, 06:14 PM
Since I don't believe Reed has much time to run the FAQ anymore, it wouldn't be a bad idea to get something similar going here... Like mentioned, keep me in the loop if anyone intends on putting together a list of threads/discussions...

AlmostAV
03-11-09, 06:15 PM
alright thanks sal....maybe we could split up the work....ie someone takes charge and creates the intake section, someone else the headers...etc, we would just have to format it afterwords so its in the same format

CadiBlk
03-11-09, 06:19 PM
I nominate TBJS to head up the Words of Wisdom section.

stuckey
03-11-09, 06:22 PM
ok...I'll take...the.........ummm.........i think ill just wait till we see if anyone else takes everything there has to be people here more knowledgeable than me. if not I'll be more than happy to pick something and research this place and put some great info together.

TaVern
03-11-09, 06:26 PM
What if something changes or someone wants to add something (i.e. new install advice or new products)?

JonCR96Z
03-11-09, 06:34 PM
What if something changes or someone wants to add something (i.e. new install advice or new products)?
Instead of just questioning everything and trying your best to get a closer look at Heavy's colon, why not just try to come up with a solution to the problems that you think will be created by such a venture? That not on your agenda?

TaVern
03-11-09, 06:42 PM
Instead of just questioning everything and trying your best to get a closer look at Heavy's colon, why not just try to come up with a solution to the problems that you think will be created by such a venture? That not on your agenda?

What the hell is your problem? I asked a question, which I guess I'm not allowed to do here. Sorry everyone.

Lord Cadillac
03-11-09, 06:50 PM
Instead of just questioning everything and trying your best to get a closer look at Heavy's colon, why not just try to come up with a solution to the problems that you think will be created by such a venture? That not on your agenda?
I don't think Tavern was trying to be negative there..


What if something changes or someone wants to add something (i.e. new install advice or new products)?
We can do this one of two ways. I could create subforums for specific mods (intake, exhaust, suspension, etcetera). We certainly have enough topics to fill out a few new forums. Or, if we need to edit the stickies - I'd have to do that - but that wouldn't be difficult to make happen..

trukk
03-11-09, 07:07 PM
How about one sticky, that is a search guide.

It could be for those too lazy to create a proper search.

I don't think it's too much to ask to have people use the search function.

One big thing to mention to folks would be how to use tag search, how searches require at least 4 characters to get any hits, etc.

That would cut down on a lot of clutter, and not reinvent the wheel or the FAQ, or create a subset of forums or threads that need constant attention.

-Chris

JonCR96Z
03-11-09, 07:10 PM
I don't think Tavern was trying to be negative there..He always is.



We can do this one of two ways. I could create subforums for specific mods (intake, exhaust, suspension, etcetera). We certainly have enough topics to fill out a few new forums. Or, if we need to edit the stickies - I'd have to do that - but that wouldn't be difficult to make happen..
I think just a Mod sticky, locked of course. First post containing an index of the following post. Which are broken down as post #1 intakes, post #2 exhuast, etc..

Then in the posts maybe brief descriptions, generic summaries, and links to posts than have been made on this board containing the specific information about such mods.

New posts can still be made with reviews or installation procedures, then added to their appropriate post inside the sticky.

AlmostAV
03-11-09, 07:13 PM
the problem with search is you get 1000 threads, and you have to dig through them for the info your looking for. I use search and have no problem with it. This idea would just make things easier and more readily available IMO

JonCR96Z
03-11-09, 07:15 PM
How about one sticky, that is a search guide.

It could be for those too lazy to create a proper search.

I don't think it's too much to ask to have people use the search function.

One big thing to mention to folks would be how to use tag search, how searches require at least 4 characters to get any hits, etc.

That would cut down on a lot of clutter, and not reinvent the wheel or the FAQ, or create a subset of forums or threads that need constant attention.

-Chris

Searching is too easy, but like you said some things aren't easy to search for. Just because the word is the the thread somewhere doesn't mean that all information is relevant. Not everyone is gonna look through every thread in a search to find there answer and most don't.

General consensus seems to be, search it then if it's not on the first page just post it. Someone else will then search and find it for you.

There will always be someone who doesn't search, this will eliminate some of those posts.

JonCR96Z
03-11-09, 07:17 PM
Less repetitive threads means more room for nonsense threads.

JonCR96Z
03-11-09, 07:18 PM
Ya dig?

atdeneve
03-11-09, 07:22 PM
Isn't this what Wikis are for?

TaVern
03-11-09, 07:26 PM
He always is.

I wasn't being "negative". It was a question. No reason to be a dick about it.

JonCR96Z
03-11-09, 07:26 PM
Isn't this what Wikis are for?
What's Star Wars got to do with this?

JonCR96Z
03-11-09, 07:30 PM
I wasn't being "negative". It was a question. No reason to be a dick about it.
:hijacked: :wambulance:

Alright back on topic.

atdeneve
03-11-09, 07:51 PM
What's Star Wars got to do with this?

Who said anything about Star Wars?
suQNNY1ocoY

Lord Cadillac
03-11-09, 08:09 PM
:hijacked: :wambulance:

Alright back on topic.
If you have an issue with Tavern, it would be a better idea to talk about it with me in a PM rather than let your emotions run wild in public. You may very well have a good reason for your discontent with him - but I'd like to keep that tucked away from the rest of the forum.

I would normally PM this message - but I want everyone to know that it's important to me that this place remain friendly.. We're not all going to get along but we can certainly attempt to give it our best shot..

JonCR96Z
03-11-09, 08:38 PM
If you have an issue with Tavern, it would be a better idea to talk about it with me in a PM rather than let your emotions run wild in public. You may very well have a good reason for your discontent with him - but I'd like to keep that tucked away from the rest of the forum.

I would normally PM this message - but I want everyone to know that it's important to me that this place remain friendly.. We're not all going to get along but we can certainly attempt to give it our best shot..
You should just make him a moderator so he doesn't have to kiss ass and tattle on everyone. He can just do it himself. :xlol:

Otherwise, I hear you. It's all good. Just giving him a hard time. I'll calm down.

CadzillaTN
03-11-09, 08:52 PM
This forum could benefit from subject specific stickies with all BS posts simply deleted. Would it be fair to say you shouldn't be able to post unless you are a supporting member? This would eliminate alot of garbage.

One rub I have is when a search times out. Does this happen to everyone? You get to page 3 of 50 and have to start over. This leads to redundant posts.

Reed's site would be nice if it were wiki style. Is he accepting new write ups?

RightTurn
03-11-09, 08:57 PM
If the "only supporting members can post" rule was in effect, newbies would just surf on by the site. Most come here to ask a question after all, then get hooked by the awesomeness. :D

NormV
03-11-09, 09:14 PM
How about one sticky, that is a search guide.

It could be for those too lazy to create a proper search.

I don't think it's too much to ask to have people use the search function.

One big thing to mention to folks would be how to use tag search, how searches require at least 4 characters to get any hits, etc.

That would cut down on a lot of clutter, and not reinvent the wheel or the FAQ, or create a subset of forums or threads that need constant attention.

-Chris

Good idea. Make someone in charge of filter out BJSHO! :)

Better than using ads as stickies. You guys are paying for it! :)

Norm

acowherd
03-11-09, 09:20 PM
How about a image search?

JonCR96Z
03-11-09, 09:28 PM
Good idea. Make someone in charge of filter out BJSHO! :)

Better than using ads as stickies. You guys are paying for it! :)

Norm
That should be a step above Platinum Supporter. Everyone would pay big money for that.

Jon
03-11-09, 09:32 PM
What's the point? There will still be stupid posts.

thebigjimsho
03-11-09, 10:28 PM
I nominate TBJS to head up the Words of Wisdom section.
awww, I'm fattered, I mean, flattered...

trukk
03-11-09, 10:30 PM
the problem with search is you get 1000 threads, and you have to dig through them for the info your looking for. I use search and have no problem with it. This idea would just make things easier and more readily available IMO

:effort:

Let stop the socalism of america. HOW ****ING HARD IS IT TO TAKE 30 SECONDS TO SEARCH FOR SOMETHING?

Give them food and they eat for a night, teach them how to farm and they eat for a lifetime. THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.


This forum could benefit from subject specific stickies with all BS posts simply deleted. Would it be fair to say you shouldn't be able to post unless you are a supporting member? This would eliminate alot of garbage.

One rub I have is when a search times out. Does this happen to everyone? You get to page 3 of 50 and have to start over. This leads to redundant posts.

Reed's site would be nice if it were wiki style. Is he accepting new write ups?


Subject specific stickies would make half the main page in the form of stickies. I still think the best bet would be a thread that teaches basic search techiques, and give examples for typical searches (i.e. how to look up diif whine, how to search for the best exhaust threads, how to look for the best wood grained dash :doh:)

-Chris

thebigjimsho
03-11-09, 10:31 PM
What's the point? There will still be stupid posts.
Well that was a backhanded compliment if I ever heard one...

rjoffe
03-11-09, 10:43 PM
I could create subforums for specific mods (intake, exhaust, suspension, etcetera). We certainly have enough topics to fill out a few new forums.

I'm all for this idea. We need to minimize the effort of maintaining, and searching the site as much as feasible. If the subforums were detailed enough, not only would searching the site become much simpler, the information would be stored and displayed in a much more logical fashion, and the only additional effort required by moderators would be to move a thread to a correct subforum.

The system's search function isn't the greatest, I routinely use google to search the forums with search string like "site:cadillacforums.com cts-v trans fluid" to look for fluid recommendation. However if we had a subforum for transmission, there might not be all that many threads there where the system search would work nicely.

And if we add to that enabled RSS feeds people who were only interested in some topics could follow only those threads.

If you head down this path, may I suggest that we start at the top with a small set of categories like:

Performance Mods
Aesthetic Mods (Bling)
Maintenance
etc

Just my $0.02

Ron

trukk
03-11-09, 10:54 PM
I'm all for this idea. We need to minimize the effort of maintaining, and searching the site as much as feasible. If the subforums were detailed enough, not only would searching the site become much simpler, the information would be stored and displayed in a much more logical fashion, and the only additional effort required by moderators would be to move a thread to a correct subforum.

The system's search function isn't the greatest, I routinely use google to search the forums with search string like "site:cadillacforums.com cts-v trans fluid" to look for fluid recommendation. However if we had a subforum for transmission, there might not be all that many threads there where the system search would work nicely.

And if we add to that enabled RSS feeds people who were only interested in some topics could follow only those threads.

If you head down this path, may I suggest that we start at the top with a small set of categories like:

Performance Mods
Aesthetic Mods (Bling)
Maintenance
etc

Just my $0.02

Ron

Subforums will splinter the community...but by all means break out appearance mods :D

-Chris

rjoffe
03-11-09, 10:56 PM
Chris,

Not sure I understand, how subforums will splinter the community ?

Ron

CTSV_510
03-11-09, 10:58 PM
How about one sticky, that is a search guide.

It could be for those too lazy to create a proper search.

I don't think it's too much to ask to have people use the search function.

One big thing to mention to folks would be how to use tag search, how searches require at least 4 characters to get any hits, etc.

That would cut down on a lot of clutter, and not reinvent the wheel or the FAQ, or create a subset of forums or threads that need constant attention.

-Chris


Best idea yet ^^^^

trukk
03-11-09, 11:17 PM
Chris,

Not sure I understand, how subforums will splinter the community ?

Ron

It would be 6 top 8 extra tabs or windows you'd need to have opened to monitor the greater "CTS-V" arena. We tried it before, and it didn't really work.

-Chris

rjoffe
03-11-09, 11:35 PM
Chris,

Sorry, I'm just not following you at all. (not being negative, just don't understand :) )

Maybe it's just the way I use the forums ? I have RSS links to each forum that all feed into my Google Reader pager. That way I have one place to see any new threads, and if that thread has any interest to me, I subscribe to it, otherwise I ignore it. With my support of subforums, I would just subscribe to only those subforums I was interested in.

From a selfish point of view, I won't subscribe to all the appearance threads, and therefore have substantially less things to comb through on a daily basis.

The community is rather large, and growing larger by the day, I personally don't see an issue with fragmentation to keep the signal to noise ratio at an acceptable level. I don't have exact stats handy, but these forums generate a whole lot of new threads per day. With subforums, I believe not only will less repeat threads be started, but those of us how want to narrow of field of view can do so much more easily.

Ron

trukk
03-11-09, 11:40 PM
Chris,

Sorry, I'm just not following you at all. (not being negative, just don't understand :) )

Maybe it's just the way I use the forums ? I have RSS links to each forum that all feed into my Google Reader pager. That way I have one place to see any new threads, and if that thread has any interest to me, I subscribe to it, otherwise I ignore it. With my support of subforums, I would just subscribe to only those subforums I was interested in.

From a selfish point of view, I won't subscribe to all the appearance threads, and therefore have substantially less things to comb through on a daily basis.

The community is rather large, and growing larger by the day, I personally don't see an issue with fragmentation to keep the signal to noise ratio at an acceptable level. I don't have exact stats handy, but these forums generate a whole lot of new threads per day. With subforums, I believe not only will less repeat threads be started, but those of us how want to narrow of field of view can do so much more easily.

Ron

Ron,

I think the issue is that only .0001% of the people here read the forums via RSS. The rest read it the old fashioned way, and digging through a bunch of subforums, just makes them whither.

-Chris

rjoffe
03-11-09, 11:55 PM
Ron,

I think the issue is that only .0001% of the people here read the forums via RSS. The rest read it the old fashioned way, and digging through a bunch of subforums, just makes them whither.

-Chris

Chris,

I follow you 100%, didn't realize I was in such a small minority, from my point of view RSS is just THE way to read forums.

And just my $0.02 worth, but reading appearance threads makes me whither :)

Ron

CadiBlk
03-12-09, 01:15 AM
Can we have post count back? I use it to tell my superiority over lesser members.

But no seriously, wut happened?

JonCR96Z
03-12-09, 01:29 AM
Can we have post count back? I use it to tell my superiority over lesser members.

But no seriously, wut happened?
You can tell superiority by casino cash.

thebigjimsho
03-12-09, 01:56 AM
RSS is weak...

CadiBlk
03-12-09, 01:58 AM
You can tell superiority by casino cash.

Imma talk to my bookie about a loan.

Soon CadiBlk > *

TaVern
03-12-09, 02:35 AM
I'm with Chris on this one. One sticky as a search guide for the entire forum would be a good first step of eliminating some of the shit threads/posts around here.

814V
03-12-09, 02:57 AM
I'm with Chris on this one. One sticky as a search guide for the entire forum would be a good first step of eliminating some of the shit threads/posts around here.

you mean like tiffany??? :thumbsup:

don't forget, this place would be pretty boring without some of the nonsense threads.. sometimes i don't care what exhaust makes more power or sounds better, maggie vs na, car motor vs truck motor blah blah blah.. i just wanna be entertained by reading through peoples stupid post's.. like miley vs megan.. just because the thread is there doesn't mean you have to go read through it

this is a car forum.. i can't sit out in my garage and talk about V's or other worthless info with my buddies because most of you are on the other side of the country. so i just do it on here..

i understand there are some people who are more sensitive then others.. maybe they should stay away from the "nonsense" instead of ruining it for the people who are having a good time

the lounge is just okay i guess.. just not the same..

just my $.02

TaVern
03-12-09, 03:11 AM
the lounge is just okay i guess.. just not the same..

just my $.02

I agree with you... the lounge sucks. that's why I don't hang out there. and that's why I hang out here in V-land. we need tiffany.

TaVern
03-12-09, 04:07 AM
BTW I love megan fox. create a subforum for her.

CIWS
03-12-09, 06:37 AM
Can we have post count back? I use it to tell my superiority over lesser members.

But no seriously, wut happened?

Your post count is in your profile.


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rand49er
03-12-09, 08:01 AM
Just wanna weigh in here ...

I'm 100% in agreement with trukk (Chris). If I'm envisioning this correctly, this might look more similar to, say, the ls1tech forum. I'm not a big fan of the way it's so broken up. In contrast, I love the way this forum and EVERYTHING related to my car is in one spot. If I want to find something, I use the Search function (even though I'm not the best at it).

BTW, I also believe this thread is a good, heatlhy process.

rand49er
03-12-09, 08:03 AM
And, just for the record, I'm in 100% agreement with having a Megan Fox subforum. :drool:

UnsafeAtAnySpd
03-12-09, 08:54 AM
A search sticky is a good idea. For one, it could be helpful to many. Also, it would cut down on excuses for not searching and therefor legitimize thread closings for repetive "we've seen these before" type posts. Otherwise, I don't think a ton of mod stickies will be that helpful. It seems that those type of people that don't even try to find their own answers, don't read stickies either.
Call me 'sensitive' but I find a lot of the 'nonsense' annoying. There's a whole section on this forum for that type of stuff. It seems kind of hypocritical to bash noobs for 'cluttering' up the forum when this type of stuff is accepted by veteran members. Just a thought.

814V
03-12-09, 11:45 AM
And, just for the record, I'm in 100% agreement with having a Megan Fox subforum. :drool:

:werd:

B-1 Buddha
03-12-09, 12:49 PM
I agree with the search sticky. Or, is there some way to improve the search funtion itself? Maybe I'm just a little :tard: but whenever I search, I get stuff from all the Caddy forums, not just the V. Which means it takes a while to filter through the shite.

However, like 814V, I find that filtering through the shite in the forums is good entertainment. The lounge is okay, but it has a different crowd. It's filled with other (non-V) Caddy people. It's kinda like going down to the VFW. Nice folks, but not necessarily your crowd. It's a bit uncomfortable to talk about tits and such there. Like a fart in church. Altough there is a nice thread going through there about dead hookers in the trunk, so maybe they're not as uptight as all that.

Is it so hard to hold your cursor over the thread title and preview to see if it's serious or not? I can tell the difference between "just installed XX and hit the dyno" and "OMG Megan Fox is the hottest babe ever" to see what kind of topic it will be. :hide:

My 2 shekels...

UnsafeAtAnySpd
03-12-09, 07:02 PM
Is it so hard to hold your cursor over the thread title and preview to see if it's serious or not? I can tell the difference between "just installed XX and hit the dyno" and "OMG Megan Fox is the hottest babe ever" to see what kind of topic it will be. :hide:

My 2 shekels...

That only shows you a preview of the first post, and with how many threads seem to get jacked around here lately, that doesn't help much.

JonCR96Z
03-12-09, 07:54 PM
That only shows you a preview of the first post, and with how many threads seem to get jacked around here lately, that doesn't help much.
They're not hijacked. They just weren't the correct topic to begin with.

CtsVrod
03-12-09, 08:29 PM
Good Thread - I've gone back and forth about sub-topics... But I think everything in one place is better in the end. The only way sub-topics would work out is if there was a Lounge in the V section as well. The Regular lounge just doesnt have any personality, and no one ever checks it out for that reason... Most of us on the V pages have similar interests (PERFORMANCE) so we can get along a little bit better!

trukk
03-12-09, 08:42 PM
Good Thread - I've gone back and forth about sub-topics... But I think everything in one place is better in the end. The only way sub-topics would work out is if there was a Lounge in the V section as well. The Regular lounge just doesnt have any personality, and no one ever checks it out for that reason... Most of us on the V pages have similar interests (PERFORMANCE) so we can get along a little bit better!


We tried sub forums before, and it just didn't work. Not sure what would happen if we tried again.

-Chris

darkman
03-13-09, 12:02 AM
The whole purpose of a search engine is to eliminate the continous need to pigeon hole information into separate categories and subcategories.

When I log in to this forum I like to see a shotgun view of "what's up" across all categories at a glance. I don't want to have to go behind a bunch of categories to find out what has come up since my last visit. My vote is against subdividing the forum content.

rjoffe
03-13-09, 12:18 AM
RSS is weak...

Well I tried going back to "the old fashioned way" for the day.

It reminded me of all the reasons I went to RSS in the first place. I really have no interest in going through all of the new posts on threads that I have no interest on, just to find the posts that I am interested in.

And the performance can't be beat!

Ron

UnsafeAtAnySpd
03-13-09, 04:52 AM
The only way subforums would be okay is if when you hit 'new posts' it only brought up results from the V forum. That's generally what I use on the other vehicle specific forums I'm on (Fiero/DSM).

thebigjimsho
03-14-09, 12:46 PM
Yeah, I think we tried subforums for maybe 1 day. It was so overwhelmingly poo pooed, we went back immediately...

AlmostAV
03-14-09, 02:20 PM
I was just referring to a small sticky thread which was entitled "Everything you want to know about the V and its mods" or something.....sticky it....then within that thread are categorized links....something like this.....

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-external-engine/520845-mod-guide-induction-exhuast-please-read-before-posting.html

JonCR96Z
03-14-09, 02:59 PM
Your stickies are best answered on LS1tech.