: pics of my new engine!



ctsv154
03-04-09, 09:32 PM
Well its finally here. Hopefully I'll get some free time and start getting this thing back together soon. Engine has stock polished crank, compstar rods with arp 2000 bolts, diamond dished pistons, arp main and head studs, supposedly a cloyes double roller timing set but doesn't appear to be, melling hv pump, lg g5x1 cam and supposedly ls7 lifters. I actually haven't had time to see if he sent the lifters or check to see if the pump and cam are correct either. Hopefully tomorrow.

I got my transmission back from the shop as well. Just had 3-4 synco and all the blockers and friction ring bull as well as bronze fork pads on all gears, billet keys, new 3rd and 4th gears, and new reverse lockout. Well enough talk, time for some car porn! Not the best pics, I didn't take them. I had my parents take pictures and send them to my phone since I was out of state when it came in! lol

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Cowan480
03-04-09, 09:38 PM
You are crazy!!! haha JK..

Doctornick
03-04-09, 09:41 PM
Shes pretty, what are you going for BHP wise?

ctsv154
03-04-09, 09:55 PM
Well I'm hoping to be north of an 09 V. I think with luna's maggie and the 8" crank pulley and a meth kit I should be somewhere in the 575 600 at the crank. This is my first blower motor so to be honest I really dont know were its going to end up. I left it stock displacement just so the 112 maggie didn't have to work so hard to build the same boost. If I had a 122 I would love to have made it a 383 but I think this is a better combination for the 112.

rlj5
03-04-09, 11:49 PM
Well I'm hoping to be north of an 09 V. I think with luna's maggie and the 8" crank pulley and a meth kit I should be somewhere in the 575 600 at the crank. This is my first blower motor so to be honest I really dont know were its going to end up. I left it stock displacement just so the 112 maggie didn't have to work so hard to build the same boost. If I had a 122 I would love to have made it a 383 but I think this is a better combination for the 112.

Sounds great,
I think staying with the stock cubes when using the 112 is wise idea.

:thumbsup:

heavymetals
03-04-09, 11:55 PM
Looks bitchin. :highfive:

With the lower end reworked it's not like you can't drop a 122 on it and have any worries (except maybe handling:histeric:).

ccextra1976
03-05-09, 12:04 AM
Sounds great,
I think staying with the stock cubes when using the 112 is wise idea.

:thumbsup:

ok I'm going for the n00b question here, but wouldn't a stroked 383 with a nice size cam/heads/injectors make about the same power as 112 bolted on?

heavymetals
03-05-09, 12:17 AM
ok I'm going for the n00b question here, but wouldn't a stroked 383 with a nice size cam/heads/injectors make about the same power as 112 bolted on?

I don't think as much HP as a maggie with a good tune, but you would be about 100 lbs lighter.

ctsv154
03-05-09, 12:18 AM
depends on how both were set up. Its always possible to make an N/A motor on par with a blower motor but it takes a lot more attention to detail as far as cam selection, head selection, header size, piston, headgasket thickness. Its easier to just push a bunch air in and add fuel to match than it is to properly spec an na motor that can keep up. That is kind of a crude comparison but its the truth. Plus with the smaller cam you dont work the valve train as hard. Less stress on the chain, valves, lifters, rockers. Basically if you drive the blower motor easy the valve train wont take a beatting. The na motor will always be fighting the big lobes and stiff springs no matter how easy you drive it.

You would also loose the wonderful drivability and crazy low end grunt of the blower motor.

rlj5
03-05-09, 12:23 AM
Well its finally here. Hopefully I'll get some free time and start getting this thing back together soon. Engine has stock polished crank, compstar rods with arp 2000 bolts, diamond dished pistons, arp main and head studs, supposedly a cloyes double roller timing set but doesn't appear to be, melling hv pump, lg g5x1 cam and supposedly ls7 lifters. I actually haven't had time to see if he sent the lifters or check to see if the pump and cam are correct either. Hopefully tomorrow.

I got my transmission back from the shop as well. Just had 3-4 synco and all the blockers and friction ring bull as well as bronze fork pads on all gears, billet keys, new 3rd and 4th gears, and new reverse lockout. Well enough talk, time for some car porn! Not the best pics, I didn't take them. I had my parents take pictures and send them to my phone since I was out of state when it came in! lol


What C/R you shootin for ?
Might determine your future boost levels , Just in case you decide on a different blower later.

ctsv154
03-05-09, 12:29 AM
with a 64cc chamber I was shooting for about 9.2 - 9.4 to 1. I really need to brush up on my formulas for all this crap. I've had mixed reaction on this cr. Some say it might be a tad low for the maggie, some so it will work perfect.

I plan on bolting on a set of trick flows in the future and can play with the cr a little if need be.

ccextra1976
03-05-09, 12:35 AM
depends on how both were set up. Its always possible to make an N/A motor on par with a blower motor but it takes a lot more attention to detail as far as cam selection, head selection, header size, piston, headgasket thickness. Its easier to just push a bunch air in and add fuel to match than it is to properly spec an na motor that can keep up. That is kind of a crude comparison but its the truth. Plus with the smaller cam you dont work the valve train as hard. Less stress on the chain, valves, lifters, rockers. Basically if you drive the blower motor easy the valve train wont take a beatting. The na motor will always be fighting the big lobes and stiff springs no matter how easy you drive it.

You would also loose the wonderful drivability and crazy low end grunt of the blower motor.

I had a turbo car before the V, and for the V i'm on a N/A quest...I'm doing a cam rockers etc until something major happens to the motor then I will go all out. I know with a F/I it's less harsh on the motor and MPG than a big N/A motor, but I got my mind set for now. When I was a teen I got to drive a 500CI caddy motor shoved into an El Camino and it was pure violence and I loved every minute of it

rlj5
03-05-09, 12:35 AM
with a 64cc chamber I was shooting for about 9.2 - 9.4 to 1. I really need to brush up on my formulas for all this crap. I've had mixed reaction on this cr. Some say it might be a tad low for the maggie, some so it will work perfect.

I plan on bolting on a set of trick flows in the future and can play with the cr a little if need be.


9.2 to 9.5 is ideal as for as I'm concerned.

Luna.
03-05-09, 01:25 AM
OMG--that motor is gorgeous. :jawdrop:

Gratz.

I will be very eager to see what she finally puts down when you are finished.

Very, very cool

shadybx7
03-05-09, 02:07 AM
154
:drool: i cant wait to see the dyno graph, good work mad mod man

rand49er
03-05-09, 08:13 AM
Just some ramblings, here, but IMHO your guess at 575-600 chp might be a bit conservative. Compared to stock motor with a maggie, your CR would cause you to lose a little power, but the 8" crank pulley will more than compensate by getting you more boost so my guess is that you'll be a bit over 600 chp (assuming you've improved in the cam area, it's exhaling without constriction, the tune is good, etc). 'Course, guess we'll never know for certain. This will be fun to watch, though.

Man, at your age, what the heck are you gonna do for an encore?!!

ctsv154
03-05-09, 09:23 AM
I do have a cam. May not be ideal for a blower but its actually very similar to some popular fi cams I have seen. I need to run the grind number through lg and make sure its on 114lsa and not 112. She will be exhaling through kooks 1 7/8" headers and modified stock exhaust with no cats for now. I also traded out for lunas computer so I will have his tune to get me by until I get the engine broke in and to my tuner for the tweaks.

If I need more I can always add a 2.6 pulley on top of the 8" crank pulley. That may be over driving the maggie just a little! lol

Twitch
03-05-09, 09:25 AM
Damn, mow I'll never get my pod. Think imma demand my $$$ back :rant2:
J/K
Motor looks great. Nothing too crazy. Probably something I would do.
Soooo, what would something like that set someone back?

ctsv154
03-05-09, 09:33 AM
Man, at your age, what the heck are you gonna do for an encore?!!

Well with the way I drive this may be my encore! :histeric:

No I've got "other" projects if my dad doesn't sell his 74 Challenger. I'm trying my darnedest to get him to drop in a mean 440 with a weiand blower on it and a little mini tub out back but he seems to be stuck on the 340 stroker conversion. Which would still be bad ass. It would bump the 340 to a 416. With aluminum heads and the right intake and carb that little 416 would be a beast with half the weight of the big block! It would be a little more of a sleeper too without the weiand sticking out the hood. lol

But that is in the far future. Hopefully he wont sell it by then. I want that car!

ctsv154
03-05-09, 09:36 AM
Damn, mow I'll never get my pod. Think imma demand my $$$ back :rant2:
J/K
Motor looks great. Nothing too crazy. Probably something I would do.
Soooo, what would something like that set someone back?

I'm still working on the pod! Just working a few bugs out thats all. For this engine the way it sits completely assembled and shipped for $3500. I'm may have a guy check the rod and main journals just to be on the safe side. Its always a good idea just to make sure somebody else didn't have a brain fart.

814V
03-05-09, 01:17 PM
For this engine the way it sits completely assembled and shipped for $3500.

wow.. i was expecting a lot more

ctsv154
03-05-09, 01:34 PM
wow.. i was expecting a lot more

I looked around a long time to find this deal. A guy in florida built it and decided to sell it. It has no miles on it. Its a fresh build with 90% new parts. Its also been balanced. I dont think I did to bad. If I had to build this same short block it would have cost more.

814V
03-05-09, 05:09 PM
ya done good! i would like to do something like that with mine

Luna.
03-05-09, 07:16 PM
If I need more I can always add a 2.6 pulley on top of the 8" crank pulley. That may be over driving the maggie just a little! lol

I wouldn't, my good man. The 8" crankshaft balancer will be more than enough. Going to that extreme? You may see an increase in: belt-slip, thrown belt, or Maggie bearing issues. Stay with the 8" would by my recommendation. That motor should be one heck of a powerplant as is. :cool2:

ctsv154
03-05-09, 09:17 PM
I wouldn't, my good man. The 8" crankshaft balancer will be more than enough. Going to that extreme? You may see an increase in: belt-slip, thrown belt, or Maggie bearing issues. Stay with the 8" would by my recommendation. That motor should be one heck of a powerplant as is. :cool2:

Yeah I was just kidding. The maggie's aren't very efficient past were the 8" crank pulley will put me.

trukk
03-06-09, 11:09 AM
Love that engine pr0n. :fap:

-Chris

Slithering_Joe
03-06-09, 12:08 PM
Nice engine. Are there any issues running a high volume oil pump with a stock oil pan?

ctsv154
03-06-09, 02:12 PM
Stock pan is 6qts and there are a lot of f-body guys running the hv mellings with no problems. QTP actually sells a pump with a wider georotor for even more volume.

trukk
03-06-09, 05:34 PM
I'm running the high volume melling, with no issues so far. <knock on wood>

-Chris