View Full Version : The SHO is back! Official Details! http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/11/officially-official-2010-ford-taurus-sho/
The highlights: Turbocharged ECOboost engine (duh) with 365hp. ALL WHEEL DRIVE, 6 speed auto. Starts around $38k.
:worship: Would make a great DD :D I had heard mention of a hopped up version of the MKS getting this engine. thebigjimsho 02-11-09, 02:18 AM Not anything like the original SHO, but a lot of SHO guys will be happy. Get that drivetrain in a Fusion and I'll get my pants wet... Red_October_7000 02-11-09, 03:22 AM Meh. I would still want a stick. If I buy a car like that it will be a CTS or a G8 because of the availability of the stick. I like a stick. thebigjimsho 02-11-09, 04:22 AM that too. JonCR96Z 02-11-09, 04:22 AM It's shotime. thebigjimsho 02-11-09, 04:22 AM sho.com tman2093 02-11-09, 04:44 AM thats the best looking Ford I've seen this decade... Meh. I would still want a stick. If I buy a car like that it will be a CTS or a G8 because of the availability of the stick. I like a stick.
+1000
I wonder how much that thing is gona weigh? That would be my first question. I'm guessing 4000+ :mad:
I'm with Jim though, a fusion SHO, would be much more intersting.
-Chris I'm not really a ford fan and this still doesn't make me want to be one. They need to make the car a little more sporty. Looks like a toyota or something from the back. The lines down the side arent very good. I like the inside that about all Florian 02-11-09, 12:09 PM zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Yet another fugly Ford......too bad.
F dkozloski 02-11-09, 02:01 PM Looks like a Mustang. http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/autoshows/chicago/2009/2010fordtaurusshonews.10fordtaurussho1.img.jpg firstimecaddi 02-11-09, 03:42 PM what doea SHO stand for? Blackout 02-11-09, 03:45 PM what doea SHO stand for?
Super High Output Ford SHOULD import the Falcon and drop a 400+hp (but they cant get a motor over 303 without FI) motor in it..........................
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w52/jdinmaui/ford_falcon_02.jpg Blackout 02-11-09, 04:18 PM Ford SHOULD import the Falcon and drop a 400+hp (but they cant get a motor over 303 without FI) motor in it..........................
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w52/jdinmaui/ford_falcon_02.jpgI'd love to get a Falcon. 5 cylinder turbo that whoops up on a LS2 powered Holden = ftw! Florian 02-11-09, 05:34 PM Ford ought to fire every one of its designers....what are they thinking with these designs????? Just awful....
F Blackout 02-11-09, 06:24 PM Holy crap! Look at this things torque curve!
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/jalopnik/2009/02/2010_Ford_Taurus_SHO_EcoBoost_Power-Curve.jpg dirt_cheap_fleetwood 02-11-09, 06:46 PM Damn the Falcon looks amazing. NEWSFLASH ! Ford soon to release new updated SHO ! ! !
Oh and the Hyundai Genesis has more horsepower.
(Sucking Hyundai's Output) Blackout 02-11-09, 07:19 PM NEWSFLASH ! Ford soon to release new updated SHO ! ! !
Oh and the Hyundai Genesis has more horsepower.
(Sucking Hyundai's Output)
10 hp is nothing. A CAI will fix that but with the SHO being turbo charged tuning is going to be a breeze and unlike the old SHO's mechanics won't have nightmares trying to work on a SHO's engine anymore thebigjimsho 02-11-09, 07:26 PM NEWSFLASH ! Ford soon to release new updated SHO ! ! !
Oh and the Hyundai Genesis has more horsepower.
(Sucking Hyundai's Output)The proof is in the mpg pudding. As for hp, look at when the 1st gen SHO was released and then how many years it took any 6 cylinder not in an NSX or M5/6 to trump it. Blackout 02-11-09, 07:28 PM The proof is in the mpg pudding. As for hp, look at when the 1st gen SHO was released and then how many years it took any 6 cylinder not in an NSX or M5/6 to trump it.
Me and jim don't see eye to eye much but in this case I feel like I'm in his head with this statement thebigjimsho 02-11-09, 07:31 PM Me and jim don't see eye to eye much but in this case I feel like I'm in his head with this statement
Like I tell the SHO guys, I was never a Ford guy but the best thing Ford ever did was send those little 6 cyl to Yamaha. Blackout 02-11-09, 07:32 PM Like I tell the SHO guys, I was never a Ford guy but the best thing Ford ever did was send those little 6 cyl to Yamaha.
QFT! The 3.0 Vulcan V6 in my Taurus GL was anything but SHOesque How long before Sal has a SHO forum? thebigjimsho 02-11-09, 09:56 PM How long before Sal has a SHO forum?
with well established SHO forums, I think it would be an exercise at futility. But I could steer him to the forum owner if he ever wanted to buy it... with well established SHO forums, I think it would be an exercise at futility. But I could steer him to the forum owner if he ever wanted to buy it...
Resistance is futile, all will be assimilated. Their biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own.
You're probably right, nonetheless I would not be surprised if he added one anyway....Behold the list:
www.madisonross.com thebigjimsho 02-12-09, 01:35 AM Sal = Borg? I~LUV~Caddys8792 02-12-09, 01:36 AM Wow, a Ford sedan that doesn't bore me to tears! Nice! thebigjimsho 02-12-09, 01:37 AM Wow, a Ford sedan that doesn't bore me to tears! Nice!
Yeah, I guess you were just a little sperm cell when the first SHO rolled out of Atlanta... 10 hp is nothing. A CAI will fix that but with the SHO being turbo charged tuning is going to be a breeze and unlike the old SHO's mechanics won't have nightmares trying to work on a SHO's engine anymore
I grant you 10 fwhp is very minimal, but to the lay person walking in a dealership buying a car the printed numbers is what they see and remember, be they real or perceived. You would think Ford could have eeked that much more out if it was truly "nothing"
A CAI or for that matter any Mod can be placed on any/either car. To start saying what this car or that car will do once modified is humorous. One could just as easily speculate on what the Hyundai would be capable of with post stock modification. The proof is in the mpg pudding.
You're right Jim, I'm generally greatly concerned about my MPG rating when buying a "performance" vehicle.
:alchi: Id like to see some pictures in black, it looks to chryslery for my tastes in the pictures ive seen Id like to see some pictures in black, it looks to chryslery for my tastes in the pictures ive seen
Yeah it does in the pics. Something I would have to see in person. Blackout 02-12-09, 10:32 AM I grant you 10 fwhp is very minimal, but to the lay person walking in a dealership buying a car the printed numbers is what they see and remember, be they real or perceived. You would think Ford could have eeked that much more out if it was truly "nothing"They're geared towards two totally different demographics. The Genesis is going after BMW/Lexus/Benz buyers while the SHO is more along the lines of ummm.......maybe the G8? For whatever reason I'm drawing a blank of "performance oriented" sedans at the moment. But if anything it looks better for Ford then Hyundai. Ford needs 3.5 liters and 2 less cylinders to make just as much power as an engine that has 1.1 more liters and 2 more cylinders while the Ford gets better fuel mileage.
A CAI or for that matter any Mod can be placed on any/either car. To start saying what this car or that car will do once modified is humorous. One could just as easily speculate on what the Hyundai would be capable of with post stock modification.
Name me a F/I car that isn't easier to mod and get power out of then a N/A engine They're geared towards two totally different demographics. The Genesis is going after BMW/Lexus/Benz buyers while the SHO is more along the lines of ummm.......maybe the G8? For whatever reason I'm drawing a blank of "performance oriented" sedans at the moment. But if anything it looks better for Ford then Hyundai. Ford needs 3.5 liters and 2 less cylinders to make just as much power as an engine that has 1.1 more liters and 2 more cylinders while the Ford gets better fuel mileage.
I wasn't making demographic comparisons. Simply stating the fact that Hyundai is producing a sedan with more HP off the floor than Ford's new "performance" sedan even though it's not being marketed as one. But possible demographics aside the cars are in the same price point, "The 2010 Ford Taurus SHO will start at $37,995 when it goes on sale this summer." The Hyundai fully loaded tops out at 41K and comes not only with a nicer interior, but more amenities for the price.
Gas mileage again ? Although I don't think most "performance" car buyers are really concerned gas mileage, let's put you mileage proponents to the test. According to the press release from the current Chicago auto show.
"The SHO, which is being unveiled today at the Chicago Auto Show, will get 25 mpg on the highway, Farley said during a press preview earlier this month in Dearborn, Mich. A city gas mileage comparison was not offered."
http://www.autonews.com/article/20090211/ANA05/902109947/1156/RECHTIN
The Genesis is rated at 27 mpg on the highway and 18 in the city.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/25284.shtml
So in fact, contrary to your (and others) statements, Ford is producing a V6 car that's getting worse gas mileage than the V8 Hyundai and less power. However for the sake of argument let's say they're simply equal as a few MPG either way won't make a hell of a lot of difference depending upon how it's driven.
Name me a F/I car that isn't easier to mod and get power out of then a N/A engine
Here we are back to the potential Mod game again. Without seeing specific mods, their costs, and actual gains to say this route or that route is going to be cheaper or achieve more output is pure speculation. There is no way to even tell what either platform is ultimately capable of beyond stock. Blackout 02-12-09, 01:15 PM I wasn't making demographic comparisons. Simply stating the fact that Hyundai is producing a sedan with more HP off the floor than Ford's new "performance" sedan even though it's not being marketed as one. But possible demographics aside the cars are in the same price point, "The 2010 Ford Taurus SHO will start at $37,995 when it goes on sale this summer." The Hyundai fully loaded tops out at 41K and comes not only with a nicer interior, but more amenities for the price.
Gas mileage again ? Although I don't think most "performance" car buyers are really concerned gas mileage, let's put you mileage proponents to the test. According to the press release from the current Chicago auto show.
"The SHO, which is being unveiled today at the Chicago Auto Show, will get 25 mpg on the highway, Farley said during a press preview earlier this month in Dearborn, Mich. A city gas mileage comparison was not offered."
http://www.autonews.com/article/20090211/ANA05/902109947/1156/RECHTIN
The Genesis is rated at 27 mpg on the highway and 18 in the city.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/25284.shtml
So in fact, contrary to your (and others) statements, Ford is producing a V6 car that's getting worse gas mileage than the V8 Hyundai and less power. However for the sake of argument let's say they're simply equal as a few MPG either way won't make a hell of a lot of difference depending upon how it's driven.So what you're saying is that the Genesis, which is marketed as a Lexus/Benz/BMW fighter, has more amenities then a performance sedan and that the Genesis has a better interior then a performance sedan so that means the SHO is a let down?
Here we are back to the potential Mod game again. Without seeing specific mods, their costs, and actual gains to say this route or that route is going to be cheaper or achieve more output is pure speculation. There is no way to even tell what either platform is ultimately capable of beyond stock.
It's not even a question one should have to think about. Do you honestly think Ford would be that stupid to have such a build up for the SHO to come back for almost 10 years and then release it with an engine that is already maxxed out on power from the factory? Do you realize the shit storm they would be setting themselves up for? So what you're saying is that the Genesis, which is marketed as a Lexus/Benz/BMW fighter, has more amenities then a performance sedan and that the Genesis has a better interior then a performance sedan so that means the SHO is a let down?
Whether or not is is a let down will vary from person to person. The only thing I mentioned was this is to be a performance sedan/car coming from Ford and carrying the SHO moniker, but Hyundai released a car, not in the performance category, actually a luxury car (sedan), that was rated at more HP and was the same price. I personally think Ford could have stepped up to the plate a little better, but oh well, the potential SHO owner will have to reckon that for themselves. I would feel a little funny if another model could produce more HP, better mileage, and have a better interior with more features for the same cash, and yet I'm supposed to be the "Super High Output"
It's not even a question one should have to think about. Do you honestly think Ford would be that stupid to have such a build up for the SHO to come back for almost 10 years and then release it with an engine that is already maxxed out on power from the factory? Do you realize the shit storm they would be setting themselves up for?
Ford holds no responsibility for what owners attempt to do to their car much beyond stock. But since you word the question that way it would appear they allowed the SHO to come back after 10 years and have less rated HP than a fracking Hyundai luxury car that costs the same. I don't necessarly categorize that as the smartest move. Rodya234 02-12-09, 06:44 PM I don't know why people compare every car to the Genesis just because it has "375 HORSEPOWEREZZZ!!!1!oneone!!"
The Audi A6 3.0T has 300hp and accelerates just as fast as the Genesis despite a 75hp "disadvantage". Which proves it's not how much power you have, its how you use it. The 375hp V8 Genesis with navigation costs more than a fully loaded, completely optioned AWD SHO. I~LUV~Caddys8792 02-12-09, 08:11 PM Yeah, I guess you were just a little sperm cell when the first SHO rolled out of Atlanta...
I was actually probably a year and a half old. They hit the market in the '89 model year right? So that would mean July/August of '88 right? The 375hp V8 Genesis with navigation costs more than a fully loaded, completely optioned AWD SHO.
Got links ? I wasn't aware that fully optioned pricing was out on the SHO yet. I don't know why people compare every car to the Genesis just because it has "375 HORSEPOWEREZZZ!!!1!oneone!!"
The Audi A6 3.0T has 300hp and accelerates just as fast as the Genesis despite a 75hp "disadvantage". Which proves it's not how much power you have, its how you use it.
Of course not, it's power vs weight. But an Audi is an Audi, not a Hyundai and the A6 costs about 10K more than either the SHO or Genesis. Playdrv4me 02-12-09, 09:00 PM Edmunds is stating that 37995 will include every option. Like the CTS-V. g8 gxp > * in this price point.
-Chris g8 gxp > * in this price point.
-Chris
Some people will like the AWD and the auto. Plus the interior. And features that the G8 doesn't have. JonCR96Z 02-12-09, 10:32 PM g8 gxp > * in this price point.
-Chris
Ooooh, That's what's up. Rodya234 02-12-09, 10:44 PM Of course not, it's power vs weight. But an Audi is an Audi, not a Hyundai and the A6 costs about 10K more than either the SHO or Genesis.'
The Audi is nearly 500lbs heavier then the Genesis. Being cheaper is pretty much the only advantage it has. Some people will like the AWD and the auto. Plus the interior. And features that the G8 doesn't have.
Ya but they are wrong. AWD and Auto are for those that proudly say gay
Ooooh, That's what's up.
werd. He has spoken:
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8653/boltonkingwt9.jpg
-Chris g8 gxp > * in this price point.
-Chris
Does anybody buy those?...Ive seen maybe 2
Edit: Ive seen maybe 2 G8's, Ive never seen a GXP Does anybody buy those?...Ive seen maybe 2
Edit: Ive seen maybe 2 G8's, Ive never seen a GXP
I've seena few G8's. The GXP's just came out.
Goes to show how stoopid americans are. That is ONE HELL of a performance bargain.
-Chris thebigjimsho 02-13-09, 04:59 AM Back off da SHO, mortarforkers! Blackout 02-13-09, 06:38 AM I've seena few G8's. The GXP's just came out.
Goes to show how stoopid americans are. That is ONE HELL of a performance bargain.
-Chris
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/11/rumormill-gm-slashing-pontiac-g8-production-by-97/ :bigroll: '
The Audi is nearly 500lbs heavier then the Genesis. Being cheaper is pretty much the only advantage it has.
But that is part of the overall equation, at least for some car buyers. Now if it was a couple of grand difference maybe not. But when you start talking 5000 or in this case 10,000 that's enough to affect a buying decision. Edmunds is stating that 37995 will include every option. Like the CTS-V.
The CTS-V starts at 59,995 and go go up to almost 70K.
I keep reading base price/starting at 37,995 ?
"The 2010 Ford Taurus SHO will start at $37,995 when it goes on sale this summer."
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/11/officially-official-2010-ford-taurus-sho/
"At a starting price of $37,995 the new Taurus SHO will give the Pontiac G8 GXP and Dodge Charger a good fight and maybe even slap a BMW around a bit."
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=10&article_id=7653
"Base Price: 2010 Ford Taurus SHO: $37,995"
http://www.rsportscars.com/ford/2010-ford-taurus-sho/
""Taurus SHO will be available this summer, starting at $37,995, including destination fees"
http://www.autonews24h.com/Auto-Industry/Ford-News/2906.html
"The 2010 Ford Taurus SHO will be built at Ford’s Chicago (Ill.) assembly plant and will be available in dealerships this summer, starting at a base price of $37,995, including destination."
http://www.zercustoms.com/news/2010-Ford-Taurus-SHO.html
Here Leftlane just says "will retail"
"The Taurus SHO will retail for $37,995 including destination when it goes on sale this summer. "
http://www.leftlanenews.com/ford-taurus-sho.html
Jalopnik is unclear also.
"and coming in at a reasonable $37,995 price"
http://jalopnik.com/5147709/2010-ford-taurus-sho-the-sleeper-awakens
Another note I did see in several articles is Ford is marketing this car against the 5 Series BMW ? One thing it will have in it's favor is it's producing more HP than the twin turbo'd 335i and starting at several thousand dollars less, so it might draw some of those potential customers, if they can deal with the differences in the dash. Even Hyundai markets itself against the 5 and 7 series, but only on certain features. Even Hyundai markets itself against the 5 and 7 series, but only on certain features.
I can certainly see Hyundai attempting to have the Genesis penetrate into some of those markets, it is after all supposed to be their high end luxury model. thebigjimsho 02-14-09, 12:52 AM compare this blah blah. Does it sell? That's the issue. There will be interest... This car falls into the "too many cars, too little time category". It would likely be fun to own, but its on a list of 10 or so other cars I wouldnt mind owning for a year or 2 and i just dont have the time....On my deathbed I will likely say that I wish I had owned more cars. Playdrv4me 02-14-09, 11:32 PM This car falls into the "too many cars, too little time category". It would likely be fun to own, but its on a list of 10 or so other cars I wouldnt mind owning for a year or 2 and i just dont have the time....On my deathbed I will likely say that I wish I had owned more cars.
I'd agree with that statement for the most part. Sadly, in my case it's more a situation of wishing I had hung on to some of the cars I DID have longer :( compare this blah blah. Does it sell? That's the issue. There will be interest...
There has to be enough interest to keep it in production. Whether or not there will be is something only time will tell. Not anything like the original SHO, but a lot of SHO guys will be happy. Get that drivetrain in a Fusion and I'll get my pants wet...
It scares me when tbjs makes a statement I agree with. thebigjimsho 02-17-09, 07:41 AM It scares me when tbjs makes a statement I agree with.women in stockings, hawt. oops, did it again... http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/16/hennessey-ready-to-tap-2010-ford-taurus-shos-potential/ thebigjimsho 02-17-09, 10:21 PM It's a turbo. everyone will have a hand on upping the hp... | |