Figured this question would spark some interesting discussion. Disregarding the Cimarron, what is your least favorite Cadillac of all time?

I don't care too much for the '85 - '88 Devilles, myself.

Probably the '86-'91 Eldorado and Seville. I'm also not a fan of the Deville's either.

'85-88 deVilles/Fleetwoods and of course, the Cimarron.

85-87 DeVille, Seville and Eldorado. By '88, Cadillac made some effort to fix the looks of the Eldorado, and the 4.5 was a significant improvement over the HT4100. The Seville and Eldorado were only marginal, however, until the superb 1992 redesign. The DeVilles got better with the 1989 restyling and even better from 1991-93 with the 4.9.

I would say the 80s were mostly a lost decade for Cadillac. It's taken a long time to restore their credibility, and they've sadly lost a generation of luxury car buyers in the process. They're building some excellent products today, but the disasters of the 80s still haunt them and keep many buyers from taking Cadillac seriously. Their loss, but Cadillacs, too.

the original 75-79 Seville. While in actuality it may be quite a bit different, it does just look like a chevy with more chrome.

The Catera, the Bustle-Back Seville and the 1959-1961 Flat Top (or as it was called Pancake top) Sedans.

Favorite? the 1989 - 1993 Fleetwoods/Fleetwood Sixty Specials.
and in 2nd place, the Allante and the current XLR

My least favorite Cadillacs were produced 1973 to 1976. Aside from those awful "tack on to comply" bumpers, they also didn't run well. While all cars of this period suffered from these traits, I think it most impacted Cadillac, which seemed to make an extraordinary effort to cheapen their cars. Thank God, 1977 brought a respite from GM's lousy cars of the previous few years. Having had relatively good handling, generally higher quality European cars during the late 60s and early '70s Iwas not in the slightest bit sad to see the last of the American behemoths depart the seen.

1999-2000 Escalade, rushed to the market and it more than shows

Cadillac board room in 1999:

-Sh*t, Lincoln just came out with the Navigator. We need to compete! Any ideas?
-Throw some Cadillac badges on that Denali and let's call it a day
-Great thinking Johnson, you get a raise

1999-2000 Escalade, rushed to the market and it more than shows

Cadillac board room in 1999:

-Sh*t, Lincoln just came out with the Navigator. We need to compete! Any ideas?
-Throw some Cadillac badges on that Denali and let's call it a day
-Great thinking Johnson, you get a raise
My God, you were there!

My least fav Caddy would have to be the 73/74 Eldorado. Front and back, they just look goofy.

Definite NO:

Any Catera or Cimarron (given)

'86-87 Eldo/Seville (I think the freshening was in '88...? However, loved the '91 STS/ETC w/4.9)



Not so much:

The Nova-based Seville (b/c it drove sideways down the road just like the Nova...looks wise it was OK)

'85-88 FWD Deville/FW (Still like these better than the next one...or the one before...)

Okay, I loved the 76-79 seville and I am glad to hear it was not just me about it driving sideways....we had 3 of them in our family, and after washing them i was always perplexed by the fact that there were always 4 tire tracks), and I love my 93 seville (to me the 93-97 have the low sexy look in spades)

Worst would be the cimmarron (caviler with leather), and the 85-93 devilles and 85-88 sevilles (they appeared to be a feaible attempt to gussy up a cheaper car), Oddly the 91-93 fleetwoods apeal to me due to the skirts, real wood interiors, etc. at least they seemed more special.

Definite NO:

Any Catera or Cimarron (given)

'86-87 Eldo/Seville (I think the freshening was in '88...? However, loved the '91 STS/ETC w/4.9)



Not so much:

The Nova-based Seville (b/c it drove sideways down the road just like the Nova...looks wise it was OK)

'85-88 FWD Deville/FW (Still like these better than the next one...or the one before...)


I need to read these before posting them in the middle of the night. I have no idea what my parentheses comments mean in the last sentence...

The 76-91 Seville, in its four different styles, just looked ugly to me. The bustle back was unique, but not my style. The other models looked like a chromed out, leather lined econo-car from that era. Plus the 4100 and olds diesel just plain sucked.

The Cimmaron and Catera. The Catera was actually a good idea just horribly executed from a styling/quality standpoint.

The 85-88 Deville/Fleetwood FWD. Looked like any other 1980's family sedan, complete with a horrible self destructing motor.

Except for the superb styling/design on the full-size RWD cars, the 1980's sucked ass for Cadillac.

The FWD Northstar powered 93-05 Deville, Eldorado, and Seville. Great looking cars, let down by low quality and motor prone to blowing headgaskets at low miles.

If anyone cares, the only reason I said "disregarding the Cimarron" in the original post is because I knew it would pop up for every single post.

Anyone? No. All right then, carry on.

86 Eldo. Nuff said.

A Cimarron with a fake convertible top; gold luggage rack on the trunk lid, gold emblems and aftermarket wire wheel discs..

A hunch-back of notre Dame Seville

A Cimarron with a fake convertible top; gold luggage rack on the trunk lid, fold emblems and aftermarket wire wheels.

A hunch-back of Notre Dame Seville

A Cimarron with a fake convertible top; gold luggage rack on the trunk lid, gold emblems and aftermarket wire wheel discs..



I just threw up in my mouth a little. Thanks a lot.

Don't hang me for this but I HATE the new DTS's. What are they? Devilles? Cadillac killed it by taking the name away and naming all of them DTS's with stupid trim levels. Gay. And I had an 06 Impala. The exact same steering wheel that was factory in my IMPALA was in those new 2006+ DTS's! WTF? GM, seriously? Couldn't give a Caddy it's own exclusive steering wheel? And if u look, all they did from 2000-2005 Devilles to change into 2006+ DTS's was the headlights and taillights. The doors are exactly the same. The windows are exactly the same. Door handles exactly the same. Winshield exactly the same. Front fenders, almost the same, except for headlight cutout. Quarter panel, same except for tail light cutout. Way to redesign GM. Couldn't just change the car completely? Too Expensive? GM gets cheaper every year and thats why they aren't sellin shit. Why would I pay $50,000+ for a car that has the same exact steering wheel as a $20,000 Impala? Why would I pay that much for a car in which the only difference between it and the previous 5 years worth of cars is some headlight and tail light change? They had 5 years to redesign the car and they took the cheap route. Ok I'm just ranting now. Sorry.

^^ They do look alike, but you are wrong. No body parts or significant interior parts are carryover. Engine, tranny - yes. I too was hoping for a more drastic visual exterior difference in 06. As between 00-05 and 06+, I still like the 00-05 models (particularly DTS' ) better.

At least the DTS still looks like a Cadillac. It has presence. The Lincoln MKS looks more like a Pontiac than a Lincoln. The Parisienne reborn?

^^ They do look alike, but you are wrong. No body parts or significant interior parts are carryover. Engine, tranny - yes. I too was hoping for a more drastic visual exterior difference in 06. As between 00-05 and 06+, I still like the 00-05 models (particularly DTS' ) better.


Next time if you ever see a 2000 -2005 Deville and a 2006+ DTS together, take a look at them. They are same parts. On the doors, the plastic trim in the middle of the door is different, but other than that, its the exact same. I took a 2007 DTS rear window trim off a junk car and put it on my 04 DTS rear window. Same fit. I had to cuz my wife in her infinite wisdom put some chrome strips pillar things there and then ripped it off and it pulled the original retainer for the rear window off. The 07's shit is the exact same. After that, I took my DTS to a Caddy dealer and parked next to a 06+ DTS. Oh man once you do that you will see how much all the shit is the same. Doors(except for plastic trim or molding or whatever), windows, even the creases on the doors are the same and since there is creases, they had to put the same creases onto the fender, which is the same, except for the headlight cutouts. And the steering wheels are exactly the same in a new DTS and a new Impala. Just instead of a chevy emblem, its a Cadillac emblem.

Compare. Even the gas filler is in the same exact place. All they did was give it new tail lights and headlights. I hope you don't try to argue against pics. Look at the rear passenger windows. You see the triangle piece? That trim piece is what I pulled off a 07 and put on my 04. Same exact fit. Look at the front fender. Only diff. is the headlight cutout. The crease near the top that runs the length of the car is exactly the same and runs from the front fender, past the door and to the rear quarter. Same exact crease. Pics don't do it justice. Better if u park them side by side. Your heart will def. sink when you realize Caddy and GM are really screwin people this hard.

A Cimarron with a fake convertible top; gold luggage rack on the trunk lid, gold emblems and aftermarket wire wheel discs.Any Cadillac with all the tacky crap on it has what I call the part-pimpwagon treatment. Add the continental kit and fake Rolls Royce grille, and you've got the full pimpwagon.

while I agree there is minimal differences between the deville and the newer dts, looking at them in anything other than a side profile (front/rear or above) they do look like very different cars, and while the steering wheel does lack individuality, there are very signifigant interior differences between the new car and the old one (dash layout, console, etc).
I think the biggest disappointment is the powertrain carryover....its a big car, do a redesign and make it RWD so they will at least have a full size platform that is not 3 steps below the eurpoeans. I really hate taking off on an uphill slope in the rain with a heavy FWD, especially without an LSD

An 00-05 Deville door, trunk, hood will not fit on an 06+ DTS. That is a fact. Regardless of how similar they may look or if certain small trim pieces are interchangable. We are only diagreeing on this. I agree with you on the striking similiarty, some interchangable trim parts, and some of the disappointments. I have no reason to "defend" the DTS, as I don't even have one. :)

Lol. I know the trunk and hood would never fit. The headlight and taillight cutouts are different. But I really think the doors will. If you look at the shape of the door and the handles. The handles are the same, but thats not the arguement. The shape of the doors is the same. As far as locking mechanisms or mounting hardware, I don't know, maybe it won't fit. I'm just saying the doors look exactly the same and have the same exact creases and handles. They never redesigned the look. They may have redesigned the locking mechanisms or mounts, but I wasn't arguing that. I just said they look exactly the same and that is piss poor coming from a luxury car company.

my first cadillac a 1982 Seville w/ 63k miles that i got in high school in 1991. It spent more time in the shop than on the road, hated that car. But the body/interior were perfect.

I did not like the looks for the 90s eldorado with the northstar at all.

My least favorite Cadillac of all time would have to be the 1959 four window, flat top, four door sedan. The 1970's pre-'77 Cadillacs didn't look so bad, but the assembly and materials hit a new low for the brand. Revell plastic wood trim sticks in my mind. Just horrible POS that made European makes so much mor appealing. The 1977 models and the '76-79 Seville were much better. However, Cadillac was not alone in producing real junk duringg the first half of the seventies. By the mid 1980'sI no longer paid any attention to Cadillacs or any other American car and owned and drove only European cars.

The second gen Sevilles. Pre 86 I believe... hate the slant-back look.

As a technician... In the following order....

Allante, Catera, Cimarron, and the older Sevilles with the tail lamp shaped water collectors in the back... :lol:

Everything else except the chopped trunk Sevilles from days gone by has some sort of redeeming quality.
Actually even the Cimmaron wasn't that bad it was just not really a Cadillac.