: Has anyone noticed GM's new interiors?



Lord Cadillac
12-19-08, 07:13 PM
From Chevy to Buick to Cadillac - they're beautiful. For the longest time I've been very unhappy with GM interiors - but they're finally where they need to be. The Malibu, while a little cheap and plasticky, is very nice looking. The new LaCrosse interior looks classy and expensive.. Obviously the new CTS and upcoming SRX interior is amazing.. Finally...

Has anyone else noticed?

tman2093
12-19-08, 07:43 PM
I think there have always been some good interiors in GM, especially in late model cars, but they were hard to find. One of the things that sold me on the STS was the electroluminescent IP and the layout of the radio and HVAC. I particularly liek the last gen Aurora intrerior, witht he center stack angled to the driver and that vent for the passenger built into it. It just feels like a drivers car. Buick, the suppossed bear luxury brand, has had horrid interiors for years. How can you consider what was in the Regal/century and the Park Aves and LeSabres luxurious? TH"ey look like something from a Oldsmobile, a suppesedly further downmarket brand.

Night Wolf
12-19-08, 08:16 PM
I think there have always been some good interiors in GM, especially in late model cars, but they were hard to find. One of the things that sold me on the STS was the electroluminescent IP and the layout of the radio and HVAC. I particularly liek the last gen Aurora intrerior, witht he center stack angled to the driver and that vent for the passenger built into it. It just feels like a drivers car. Buick, the suppossed bear luxury brand, has had horrid interiors for years. How can you consider what was in the Regal/century and the Park Aves and LeSabres luxurious? TH"ey look like something from a Oldsmobile, a suppesedly further downmarket brand.

The last gen Aurora was, IMO one of the best designed, laid out, and quality of any 90's era GM interior.

http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/ss/sshemi426/za9.JPG

http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/ss/sshemi426/za11.JPG

http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/ss/sshemi426/za24.JPG

But, yeah.... I was surprised at the Cobalt's interior... a far cry from the Cavi just a few years ago.

Blackout
12-19-08, 08:52 PM
The last gen Aurora was, IMO one of the best designed, laid out, and quality of any 90's era GM interior.
I wouldn't go that far. I'd say the Lincoln Mark VIII's was better quality (they use real wood) and is basically setup up the exact same way

http://www.iceposter.com/thumbs/A28167_b.jpg

Caddy Man
12-19-08, 09:05 PM
If that's real wood, it looks pretty cheap. The Aurora's interior I think is better because of the small details. The font in the gauges, the look of the buttons, the shifter is more high end in look and wrapped in leather instead of something that looks like it is out of a Ford Taurus of a similar year.

thebigjimsho
12-19-08, 09:20 PM
I wouldn't go that far. I'd say the Lincoln Mark VIII's was better quality (they use real wood) and is basically setup up the exact same way

http://www.iceposter.com/thumbs/A28167_b.jpgA hideous dashboard and gauges that fall away from you? Plus vents that are inefficient being that far away. No thanks...

eldorado99
12-19-08, 09:21 PM
GM buying out Ford now are they? :p


I wouldn't go that far. I'd say the Lincoln Mark VIII's was better quality (they use real wood) and is basically setup up the exact same way

http://www.iceposter.com/thumbs/A28167_b.jpg

Night Wolf
12-19-08, 10:35 PM
I wouldn't go that far. I'd say the Lincoln Mark VIII's was better quality (they use real wood) and is basically setup up the exact same way

http://www.iceposter.com/thumbs/A28167_b.jpg

IIRC, GM didn't build the Mark VIII :alchi:

I sat in a Mark VIII at a dealer the other day... I liked the setup and design, it does farily well to feel like a drivers personal luxury coupe... but I just had a hard time with the single, monotone grey all over the thing, and the materials... it looked/felt too much like a Ford then a Lincoln. I know material quality in my Town Car are not top notch, but it still seemed several levels above atleast the early gen Mark VIII, maybe my two-tone Ivory/charcoal adds to that feeling tho, but the Town Car uses more (fake) wood trim, more chrome, and also multiple types of materials on the door panels and dash which when all together, make it look, and feel more like a luxury car.

(bad quality pics taken with my old camera as it was dying)

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/Lincoln/4-14-07/PDR_1003.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/Lincoln/4-14-07/PDR_1012.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/Lincoln/PDR_0921.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/Lincoln/4-14-07/PDR_0998.jpg

That interior actually isn't on my list of "best" of anything... but as a whole, it is very good, to me. I like the layout alot, the "organic" design, the flow. Things are placed well, and it is very easy, and pleasing to the eye. It is then supported by the superb digital dash and two-tone ivory/charcol that I now really apperciate (at one time I thought about switch to the grey that all cars now have) It's just a design that works really well, especilly in such a car.

It's all personal preference in the end... for me, the last gen Aurora interior is superior to that Mark VIII interior.

After the last gen Aurora interior, my favorite 90's anything interior would have to be the 90's Cadillac tear-drop dash, my favorite is the ~1995 ETC/STS:

http://i23.ebayimg.com/07/i/001/23/2f/182e_3.JPG

http://i19.ebayimg.com/08/i/001/23/2f/2302_3.JPG

One of my favorite parts of this layout is very similar to what I liked about my '93 Coupe DeVille dash, the FDC and ECC are right next to the gauges, only for the driver to use, leaving a very clean, simple head unit on the center stack. I like how both the FDC and ECC display 2 sets of information, the full analog gauges as well as the extensive message center. Some may not like this interior, but for me it was, and still is one of the best overall interior designs... there are just so many little things I particularly like, all in it, probably one of the only things I'd change would be to paint the tach and speedo needles red to break up the white/black (just like the E30).

http://i2.ebayimg.com/03/i/001/23/2f/68c4_3.JPG

http://i11.ebayimg.com/02/i/001/23/2f/15c4_3.JPG

A 1995 Eldorado ETC is still a car I'd like to have one day.

LS1Mike
12-19-08, 10:37 PM
Guages and vents look straight out of my 85 Lebaron in the Lincoln.

LS1Mike
12-19-08, 10:44 PM
That 93 Caddy looks like very similar to a 97 and up Regal.
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/autoreview/400x266/1997-2004-Buick-Regal-97121321991208.jpg
http://www.fabini.com/images/slp/2003GSX3interior.jpg

tman2093
12-20-08, 12:18 AM
I hate the Mark VIII. I just do. It looks goofy from any angle, the proportions are off to me, and that dash is horrible. I hate straight across dashes ala 91-96 Buick Park Avenue. I feel like the IP or the center stack needs to protrude a little to break that line.

Cousin has a Regal, I bet he'd like a wood shifter for Christmas. Off to ebay!!!!!

Po Pimp
12-20-08, 12:28 AM
I thought it was illegal for US manufactures to use real wood in cars?

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-20-08, 12:55 AM
Yeah, but that Regal's interior is sooooooooooooo friggin' cheap. Huge panel gaps, lots of hard, shiny plastics, and wasn't it only available in grey, atleast in the GS?

My favorite modern (post 1980) GM interiors are as follows:

Buick:

1991-96 Park Avenue. I love how it uses that good looking (fake) wood trim in such liberal amounts, and it's got full instrumentation, along with deep, plush seats. They look like pillows.
http://i14.ebayimg.com/07/i/001/24/09/22e4_1.JPG

Cadillac:

1990-92 Brougham. Like the Park Avenue mentioned above, I love the usage of liberal amounts of fake wood, chrome, deep cut pile carpets and leather (or velour in that case). Definitely the last of a dead breed. I prefer the digital dash and digital fuel gauge, as opposed to the tiny horizontal speedometer and tiny horizontal fuel gauge in the 1977-89 models. With the d'Elegance package, it really works well.
http://i14.ebayimg.com/05/i/001/24/e5/4f02_12.JPG

1996-97 STS/ 1996-02 ETC/ 97-99 Deville Concours. Like Rick, I love Cadillac's "teardrop" dash design that debuted in '92, but I prefer the more modern, rounded look that debuted in '96. It was modern, clean, warm and it aged very well.
http://i17.ebayimg.com/01/i/001/25/50/c2d5_12.JPG

1998-04 Seville. I like these for the same reasons I like the 96+'s, but these feel more modern, look more European, due mainly to the sculpted surfaces in the door panels, but for whatever reason, they feel colder and more airy than the 96+'s.
http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/imageserver.x/00000000/suz109/A.814N1.JPG

2008+ CTS/ 2009+ CTS-V. It lifted the bar once again for the world. Need I say more? Except I wish that that V came with a wood trim in the interior, atleast as a package.
http://images2.auction123.com/sizequalitypredef/e72e7081-4b2d-42e9-9d7c-5c15afaeeb38/1G6DJ577780162950/22.jpg?webimage001l

Oldsmobile:

1995-99 Aurora. It was a very modern design for it's time, especially from Oldsmobile. The materials used were of a quality comparable to Cadillac, it was an ergonomic success, with the way it wrapped around the driver and put everything within arm's reach.
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/autoreview/400x266/1995-99-Oldsmobile-Aurora-95128281990315.jpg



But yeah, the design quality and build quality of GM's interiors is MUCH better than it was in recent history, even five years ago. The CTS is the best example of that.

Ranger
12-20-08, 12:57 AM
I thought it was illegal for US manufactures to use real wood in cars?

Illegal? Why? Never heard that before.

Lord Cadillac
12-20-08, 01:27 AM
I don't often disagree with you, Blackout - but to me, the Mark VIII interior was nothing compared to the Aurora's.. The Lincoln had nicer leather - but (for me) that's as far as it went. The Aurora should have been saved. It was an excellent car that with just a little refinement could have been a Lexus LS competitor...

Aron9000
12-20-08, 01:51 AM
Nobody has mentioned the Escalade interior. I think its really well done
http://image.motortrend.com/f/8512099/112_0603fs_03z+2007_cadillac_escalade+interior_vie w.jpg

Same thing goes for the Yukon, Tahoe, Suburban and truck interiors. They all kind of look the same, so I'll post just one pic. Very clean, uncluttered look
http://www.hispanianews.com/archive/2006/01/13/tahoe_interior.jpg

Also can't forget the Pontiac GTO, definetly my favorite GM interior ever with the red leather.
http://www.racerchicks.com/images/auto_IM/PontiacINT.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/9248771/112_0512_08z+Pontiac_GTO+Interior_Front_Cabin_View .jpg

Cliff8928
12-20-08, 03:01 AM
The GTO seats are nice too! The only thing is that the GTO had quirks about it that definitely suggested that the steering wheel was meant to be on the other side. (for one, the volume knob is on the right side of the radio!!)

Even when the rest of the interiors from GM were garbage, IMHO, the Olds ones were better than their counterparts.

hueterm
12-20-08, 03:23 AM
I LOVED the gear shift in the original Aurora -- nothing else like it!

CadillacSTS42005
12-20-08, 09:36 AM
If that's real wood, it looks pretty cheap. The Aurora's interior I think is better because of the small details. The font in the gauges, the look of the buttons, the shifter is more high end in look and wrapped in leather instead of something that looks like it is out of a Ford Taurus of a similar year.

shifter is the exact same as from its sister car, the Seville....

MauiV
12-20-08, 10:53 AM
The Aurora interior would be MUCH nicer if not for the Fischer Price plastic that all the HVAC/radio controls are embedded in.

I LOVED the interior of my Lincoln LS. My only gripe with the V is the interior. I like the seats and instrument panel but I HATE the dash. It looks like a damn ATM sitting in the middle of my car.

The Enclave is actually my favorite GM interior right up there with the 09 V.

Blackout
12-20-08, 10:56 AM
GM buying out Ford now are they? :p

drunken posting FTW

Jesda
12-20-08, 12:02 PM
Yeah, the Aurora was definitely nice inside, not just for GM for its class and its time. The current Cobalt LT interior is on the cheap side but at least it looks nice and has solid switchgear. Remember GM's wobbly turn signal stalk that lasted through the early 90s?

billc83
12-20-08, 12:39 PM
My Allante has mentioned wobbly turn signal stalk - definently not in place on a car that cost the price of a small house new.

GM has really stepped up its interiors. The new CTS's interior is leaps and bounds ahead of the old CTS's interior. There's no comparison. The DTS is much better than the old Devilles. The new Malibu is really upscale. From what I've heard, the Buick Lucerne and Enclave have some awesome interiors.

There's still trouble spots. Sitting in an Aveo remains the worst automotive experience I've ever had. The Cobalt's interior is very plasticy. As for Cadillac, the STS needs some work - the interior is uncompetitive and downscale for its market.

GM has come a long way, but there's still room for improvement!

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-20-08, 12:48 PM
There's still trouble spots. Sitting in an Aveo remains the worst automotive experience I've ever had. The Cobalt's interior is very plasticy.


The Aveo is pathetic. I'm surprised they can move as many as they do with an interior that's that horrid. The Cobalt's interior, while MILES ahead of the Cavaliers, is still not comparable to it's current competition. All of the other cars in that class, aside from the Caliber, have interiors with much better build quality (smaller panel gaps), higher quality materials, and a more contemporary design. If you were to turn back the clocks about five years, then the Cobalt would have had a very competitive interior, but things moved ahead before the Cobalt was unveiled in '05, and now it's behind the times. Hopefully the Cruze will be able to fix that. It looks promising....very promising.

orconn
12-20-08, 01:35 PM
My "alltime" favorite interior design was the '92 t0 '97 Seville STS, a simple but rich design with the driver's information and accesasory control needs well taken care of in an uncluttered environment with the right amount of "real wood" embellishment. Living with both the earlier design and the post -98 design, I much prefer the earlier (which,by the way, won prizes and kudos from the international automotive designcommunity) one an easier to usevisually more pleasant environment than the slave to "Euro" tech excess of the later models. All the molded features of the later design made for a visually busy design that was hard to execute, with uneven gaps and reqiring cheap looking molded plastic components. Aside from the placement of the HVAC on the center stack (functionally inferior to it's position in front of the driver as on the older design) just to mimic the inferior designs of German rivals, and the totally "Nippon" kiddycar backlit speedometer and tack (tastelessly flashy while functionally inadequate in certain light conditions) the interior just gives the feel of a lower market car.

I personally liked the interior design of the '97 Regal, but I agree it was executed with lousy materials and truly poor assembly standards. To say it was junk was an understatement! It was ashame that for a car that did its' job so well it was such a poster child for American car crummy build quality. The totally infuriating center armrest cupholder which would never stay shut ( I had 4 of them replaced under warranty) was enough to send the most "diehard" American car supporter off to their import dealer.

Personally, while they seem better put together with better materials, the newer designs look contrived and visually crowd the inner space of the newer cars.The bias of "mass" over function of these new designs leaves me yearning for the elegant simplicity of the 1960's Italian dash designs!

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-20-08, 01:59 PM
I actually prefer the 1997-03 Grand Prix interiors over the Regal's. Neither of them have decent build quality, but the GP's flows better IMO, and seems much more performance oriented than the Regal's, which like every other Buick from that time, had acres of monotone plastic, big round knobs and huge displays. You feel sixty years older in a Buick, unless maybe the Riviera, but in the Grand Prix, I'll atleast feel 21. What I really like about the GP interiors, especially the GTP's, is the way they did the pleating on the vinyl trim on the doors. It matches the pleating on the seats, so it looks much sportier than a lot of flat vinyl as in the Regal. But I will say that the Regal has better seats...the ones in the Grand Prixs are flat, lacking in much support and very firm. The Regal has very soft, supple, deep seats. And in the Regals, you can get it so both front seats are power and heated. In the GTP's, only the driver's seat has the option of being powered or heated.

http://image3.autorevo.com/584/pics/317133_e57f4477-e900-4af8-9446-b6a0feb06ac7.jpg

http://i9.ebayimg.com/01/i/001/24/eb/4b51_1.JPG

Lord Cadillac
12-20-08, 02:20 PM
The new Escalade was a VERY nice first shot - but the bland black slab of a center console seemed cheap to me - something Lincoln "still" hasn't figured out.


Nobody has mentioned the Escalade interior. I think its really well done

hueterm
12-20-08, 03:41 PM
My '99 GP GTP had a great interior for the day. No, it wasn't as good as Cadillac's, and it wasn't an MB, BMW, or Lexus -- but it was just as good as Ford, Honda, Toyota, etc. It was durable, it didn't rattle, and it was one of the last cars for a long time to offer camel leather :-)

Po Pimp
12-20-08, 04:17 PM
Illegal? Why? Never heard that before.

I heard (and we all know how much that is worth sometimes) that it was made illegal to stop manufactures from using it for body construction because of safety reasons but cover the use of all wood in automobiles (US made).

Cars like the Citi Car/Commuta Car came out in the 70s with wooden bumpers. Not the safest car to wreck in to begin with add on the wood bumpers and you have mess. Not to mention how hard it is to find one that has bumpers at all because they rot off pretty fast.

Caddy Man
12-20-08, 05:01 PM
I thought it was illegal for US manufactures to use real wood in cars?

That makes no sense...Cadillacs use real wood inside their cars.

Kick94sts
12-20-08, 06:16 PM
i love my interior compared to my 89 silverado, haha although chevy truck bucket seats are like driving on a couch.

MauiV
12-20-08, 07:19 PM
I still wish to whoever is listening that Pontiac would shed themselves of those God awful orange interior lights. I hate the HVAC and speedo?trip comp in the V because of the orange. I hated it 20 years ago in BMWs too.

I do LOVE the VW/Audi dash lights.

I also like GTOs with the Australian gauges.

Night Wolf
12-20-08, 07:45 PM
I still wish to whoever is listening that Pontiac would shed themselves of those God awful orange interior lights. I hate the HVAC and speedo?trip comp in the V because of the orange. I hated it 20 years ago in BMWs too.

I do LOVE the VW/Audi dash lights.

I also like GTOs with the Australian gauges.

I can't speak for new VW as I haven't seen them, but my friends '01 Jetta 1.8T that he once had, had awesome gauge lights, blue with red needles... probably my favorite part of the car.

I too used to not be fond of red interior lights, one of the reasons I never liked Pontiac interiors much... Pontiac uses a deeper red, Infinity uses orange, which I still do not like... BMW is sort of a mix between the two. Honestly I didn't like it at first, but now I have really grown to like it, especially how on the E30 the gauge lights are not backlit, but instead the light is lit, then reflected from the front of the gauges back, it is really neat and adds a cool sporty feel to the car at night, maybe thats why it works in such a car... as for luxury cruisers? I prefer something more calm and relaxing.

Personally, the interior of a car plays a huge role in if I like it or not, one of the most important parts of the interior is the gauges, and especially how they are lit at night.... I sat in alot of new Hyundais and they have awesome gauges at night, except for the Accent which uses a very cheap ucky green. I dunno, it's just one of the pet peeves of mine. Kinda like why I don't like many Ford's since the late 90's... they switched to that pure green interior lights, I just did not like it, I think they are starting to get away from it. I know on the Mustang you can get it with an option to set your own backlighting, somethign I think is very cool and should have been done a long time ago. Same with Lincoln, in 1998 they changed the Town Car to the Ford corporate green, when before it was, IMO a really nice "cool blue" (still a little green for me, but not too bad)

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tman2093
12-20-08, 08:03 PM
This is a Chrysler Town and Country's gauges, when lit for night driving.

http://l.yimg.com/img.autos.yahoo.com/i/articles/new_york_2007_photo_gallery/chrysler_town_country/chrysler_towncountry_1_x.jpg

Similar gauges are in other models, including the Dakota's sister Mistubishi Raider. Hade one as a rental last year, aside from the V6 feeling like a Go cart engine, the Timex Indiglo mimicking gauges were horrible.

orconn
12-20-08, 08:51 PM
Isn't the red lighting suppose to protect or at least not be detrimental to "night vision?" I have not really like the red/orange lighting since I first ecountered it on a 1980 Nissan Z car.

To me the interior of a car is very important and either carries through the desigm and image of the car or undermines the integrity of the whole package. For many years I chose to drive European cars because the interiors, particualrly the seats were of much higher quality than they put in US cars ...... includng Cadillac! While many o9f these cars couldn't hold a candle to the luxury standards of today, they at least gave one the feeling that quality was at least on the maker's list of priorities.

LS1Mike
12-20-08, 10:32 PM
I still wish to whoever is listening that Pontiac would shed themselves of those God awful orange interior lights. I hate the HVAC and speedo?trip comp in the V because of the orange. I hated it 20 years ago in BMWs too.

I do LOVE the VW/Audi dash lights.



I love the orange lights.
I hated my my wife's Jetta TDI's dash lights.
To each their own though.

LS1Mike
12-20-08, 11:01 PM
Isn't the red lighting suppose to protect or at least not be detrimental to "night vision?" .

Your statment is correct.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-20-08, 11:21 PM
Both the '92 deVille, and the '99 S320 have a great color scheme to the gauges. Black backround, white dials and orange needles. That Roadmaster I had had blue/green gauges, hvac display and the radio display also. I hated it.

A friend of mine has a '93 Maxima SE, and the way that illuminates the gauges is quite interesting. During day, it's black dials on a white back round, but at night it reverses to white on black, and the needles are lit in such a way that they shine onto the back round. It's very cool. But I'd have to say that the modern era VW's all have the coolest illumination...blue with red needles.

VW also has the honor of building the prettiest interior ever IMO. Anyone remember the Phaeton?

http://i2.ebayimg.com/07/i/001/25/50/769b_12.JPG
http://i5.ebayimg.com/06/i/001/25/50/71de_12.JPG

Look at that detail!
http://images4.ecarlist.com/photos/1455_210707/640/30.jpg
http://images4.ecarlist.com/photos/1455_210707/640/31.jpg

I would rock the shit out of a Phaeton.

Blackout
12-20-08, 11:37 PM
Anyone remember the Phaeton?No. Who can remember all the way back to 2006?

Cliff8928
12-21-08, 12:19 AM
I absolutely can't stand the VW blue. Something about it is irritating. My chevy has amber digital gauges which are very easy on the eyes at night. My olds has the blue-green which is nice too. Of course they're good in the "V" too. Although the sharpness and clarity of the gauges in the R129 can't be beat.

Night Wolf
12-21-08, 01:05 AM
This is a Chrysler Town and Country's gauges, when lit for night driving.

http://l.yimg.com/img.autos.yahoo.com/i/articles/new_york_2007_photo_gallery/chrysler_town_country/chrysler_towncountry_1_x.jpg

Similar gauges are in other models, including the Dakota's sister Mistubishi Raider. Hade one as a rental last year, aside from the V6 feeling like a Go cart engine, the Timex Indiglo mimicking gauges were horrible.

Alot of Chrysler products use those gauges.... I sat in a 300C at night and when I saw the gauge design, those backlights and the overall sparse instrument cluster, I was throughly unimpressed.... especially because the 300M Special had such sweet gauges.

Night Wolf
12-21-08, 01:11 AM
I absolutely can't stand the VW blue. Something about it is irritating. My chevy has amber digital gauges which are very easy on the eyes at night. My olds has the blue-green which is nice too. Of course they're good in the "V" too. Although the sharpness and clarity of the gauges in the R129 can't be beat.

heh, it really just goes to show how much personal taste has a play in all this... for many of us ones likes are anothers dislikes.

Here are some pictures I took tonight, atleast this is what an 80's era BMW gauges looked like, I haven't really seen any nw ones yet.

It only uses 2 main back light bulbs, one on each side, and they are actually behind the cluster, but then it uses plastic, similar to fiber optic to then send the light under and to the front of the panel, it actually shines up from the base and is angled toward the gauges. Anything white, including the needles, the light is reflected off and shines back as appearing lit up, anything black, and the light dosen't reflect. The Isuzu actually uses a very similar setup, but with green, atleast before I repalced the gauges with the white face glow (wanted blue at night) I used a slower shutter speed to get the effect, but in person the redish orange actually tapers off dimmer towards the point of the needles. Of the problems with my cluster, the right bulb is not lighting, but it is not bad (I switched bulbs) I am thinking it is a cold solder joint somewhere, but the cluster needs a makeover anyway, I already ordered the new odometer gears as well as a few extras to spruce it up and make it look much more modern, then I'll fix the lighting problem too.

It's really grown on me since, as much as me not minding red/redish orange interior lights now... like Pontiac, I am starting to like more and more as well. When I first got the car I was going to get the white face gauge kit that glows blue at night... but I just had a hard time putting white faced gauges in an E30, so these will stay, but will be updated a bit :)

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/BMW/misc/12-30-08009.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/BMW/misc/12-30-08011.jpg

The HVAC lights... yeah the Pionner cdp is blue (which I used to really like, it just dosen't fit in this car) but you can change the background color on the display, which I did and it matches. Overall not a big deal, I am very happy with how that head unit looks and fits in with the car.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/BMW/misc/12-30-08017.jpg

The gauges, gauge color, and way the interior looks at night is probably one of the most appealing things to me about a car...

Red is easiest on the eyes and least strain at night without effecting your other vision, thats why airplanes all use red backlights.

MauiV
12-21-08, 12:41 PM
My favorite interior on any "reasonable" car is the new Jag XF. I LOVE the lighting and the pop up shift knob.