: Candid pictures of our cars.



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I~LUV~Caddys8792
11-24-08, 11:12 PM
I thought it would be cool to have a thread where we show our cars as they sit right now...without being cleaned and prepped at all.

Here's mine as of this morning. It snowed last Friday night, and I hadn't washed it yet....so it's caked in salt. But I washed it this afternoon, so it's clean now.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j313/Chadillac8705/Bianca/November20080191.jpg

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
11-25-08, 01:23 AM
I'll take a picture of mine for you. Its in storage and covered by a giant silver cover so it looks like a UFO.

DopeStar 156
11-25-08, 12:46 PM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y250/DopeStar156/downsized_1125081249b.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y250/DopeStar156/downsized_1125081249.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y250/DopeStar156/downsized_1125081249a.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y250/DopeStar156/downsized_1125081229.jpg

As usual my Fleetwood is my most visually appealing car, a little dirty, white walls aren't exactly white with some brake dust but still the eye candy of my driveway.....

My DeVille is partially bondoed with a buncha pieces of trim missing from the hood and pretty filthy, I gotta clean it soon, just got it started the other day......

My Taurus is its usual filthy self but is riding on still new Bridgestones and just had the whole front end done so it rides very well. That car just hit around 140k and is in the neighborhood for a tune up pretty soon. It rained last night, still no serious snow here! *furuoisly knocks on wood*

96Fleetwood
11-25-08, 12:56 PM
Being as OCD as I am... they never get "candid."

This is how the Tahoe looked after the 1,500 mile drive from FL to IL.

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j69/leloz/IMG_0278.jpg

CBVLS6
11-25-08, 01:50 PM
Being as OCD as I am... they never get "candid."

This is how the Tahoe looked after the 1,500 mile drive from FL to IL.

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j69/leloz/IMG_0278.jpg

That Tahoe probably gets about the same mpg as my V.. lol

Coma
11-25-08, 03:33 PM
I like this thread. Here is my car with snow wheels on, covered in a salty salt residue, sitting at work. You can compare it to my sig.

http://i34.tinypic.com/20fdk4l.jpg

gary88
11-25-08, 05:00 PM
Here's where the lade sitting right now. Needs a good wash. No major snow here so they haven't thrown any major salt on the roads yet.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/gheb88/IMG_5948.jpg

Night Wolf
11-25-08, 09:02 PM
Went out and took some pictures....

I uncovered the Town Car the other day to drive it, as it has been parked and covered since I bought the BMW, but tonight I broke it, so now it is stuck in the driveway until I fix it... tomorrow I'll remove all the leaves from it and throw the cover back on it to let it sit more...

Worked 75hrs last week, 11/12/13 hr days, still on 9/10 hr days, so free time and desire to do much of anything, like fire up the leaf blower to clear the driveway really isn't there right now. Heh, combined total I spent between the 3 cars is $7,800, less then what most people pay for one used car, so I really can't complain.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/BMW/misc/11-25-08/11-25-08014.jpg

last night it started to rain, so I went out and covered up the BMW.... top leaks... alot... (dosen't seal to the windsheild frame correctly) gotta fix that, but until then, the cover keeps it dry.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/BMW/misc/11-25-08/11-25-08015.jpg

arrrghhh the daily work warrior.... was really muddy from a mini off-road trip, but then it rained hard last week and it was like a free car wash... I'll actually wash it sometime...

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/BMW/misc/11-25-08/11-25-08016.jpg

The little bundle of joy all uncovered.... this would be the bad side with the messed up fender. Besides the various dents, the right fender has been repainted in the past as the color is off, the car may have been in a slight fender bender at the right front corner... no biggie, but also all the clear coat on the fender is peeling.... apparenlty BMW did not use base coat/clear coat paint in 1990 as since I've clay barred it, then used my electric buffer with polishing compound, then Meguires colorX, then ICE, I have worn down thru the paint in a few spots and there is no clear coat. Ah well, the car is loaded with various small dents and dings... kinda adds character, I'd like to take it to a PDR person, but ultimately some day she'll get the needed body work and a new paint job... for now, it dosen't matter, I just really enjoy driving the car. Anyway.... something is missing from the car in this picture....

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/BMW/misc/11-25-08/11-25-08017.jpg

No more nasty broken pinstripe! Took 3 days in total working about 1.5-2hrs/day, but all the old pinstripe is off... was a real pain to do. The car looks cleaner without it, but I think it's because the old stuff was so bad. I have new pinstripe tape (black) that I am going to put on... I thought about leaving it off, but I think I like it better on.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/BMW/misc/11-25-08/11-25-08018.jpg

Finished it up today, all that was left was the whole drive side.... looks alot better.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/BMW/misc/11-25-08/11-25-08019.jpg

Next thing I get for the car will be a new set of tires in a few months... these are older, seem cheap (Peerless... never heard of them) and are just about worn out... the fact that the car has limited slid diff and I drive it like I just got my license at times means the tires don't have much life left.... after that it really needs spring/shock replacement, and a list of other stuff.... none of that takes away from the sheer joy of driving the car tho.

ryannel2003
11-26-08, 05:15 PM
Here she is sitting on the street. She wasn't too dirty, but a good wash wouldn't hurt.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/ryannel2003/Cadillac%20Seville%20STS/IMG_0477.jpg

Then, I got bored today and decided to wash it. Just got finished after an hour and a half of going over it.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/ryannel2003/Cadillac%20Seville%20STS/IMG_0480.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/ryannel2003/Cadillac%20Seville%20STS/IMG_0482.jpg

ted tcb
11-26-08, 06:32 PM
She looks good, Ryan, but that LH headlight still needs to be cleaned up.
I tinted my 01 silver STS ... the dark tint really sets off the silver paint nicely.
I like to bitch about them, but those cars still turn my head when I see them on the street.

ryannel2003
11-26-08, 06:44 PM
Thanks!

I tried one of those bullshit headlight kids from Advanced Auto and it ended up looking worse than before. There is a guy that will do headlights for $50 at my dealership, and his work is amazing. I'm not gonna to attempt it because I don't want to mess it up anymore than it is.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
11-26-08, 06:49 PM
Ryan, what do you do at your dealer?

ryannel2003
11-26-08, 06:56 PM
Right now work in the detail area washing cars; taking out the garbage in the shop. Not a glamorous job, but something that I love doing. I get to clean the cars and find out something new about each car.

My dealer really wants me to be a salesman soon. They know I have great potential at it, and the owner of the dealership knows how much I love Cadillac's. Hell, he trusts me enough to let me drive his DTS and XLR-V so I know he would give me the job. But right now, I'm happy washing them :)

I~LUV~Caddys8792
11-26-08, 06:58 PM
I've got two friends that do detail/lot work in a Nissan/Kia dealer near me. They like the job too.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
11-29-08, 04:50 PM
Interior shots!

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j313/Chadillac8705/Bianca/November2008020.jpg

Check out the DVD on the pass side floor! :cool2:

gary88
11-29-08, 05:02 PM
Gotta love the germans and their cup holder engineering.

ryannel2003
11-29-08, 05:10 PM
I'm completely OCD about my car. I tell everyone to make sure their shoes are clean before getting in (though I have rubber floormats) and if it has a little bit of dirt on the floor, I kinda spray it off. Only person allowed to drink in my car is me. NO SMOKING!

Yes, I have problems. I know.

Sandy
11-29-08, 05:52 PM
Each can be enlarged, by clicking on it.

http://www.smatarese.com/forum/sandy/ :caddy:

I~LUV~Caddys8792
11-29-08, 07:48 PM
Gotta love the germans and their cup holder engineering.'


They can engineer everything else so damn well....why not a cupholder?


I'm completely OCD about my car. I tell everyone to make sure their shoes are clean before getting in (though I have rubber floormats) and if it has a little bit of dirt on the floor, I kinda spray it off. Only person allowed to drink in my car is me. NO SMOKING!

Yes, I have problems. I know.

I hear ya...NO smoking in my car...others can drink, but not eat, and I do use rubber floor mats, but I do have a set of carpeted ones too. I bought those first, but fell in love with the rubbers.

93DevilleUSMC
11-29-08, 08:05 PM
Each can be enlarged, by clicking on it.

http://www.smatarese.com/forum/sandy/ :caddy:

Sandy's candid pictures look better than my after-hours-of-detailing pictures. :cool:

ted tcb
11-29-08, 09:19 PM
Chad, I love the wood detailing around the power seat controls. Very unique.
Is that silver button a lock, the button around the cup holder?
Two center console bins ... gotta love it.
From the angle of the photo, it looks like the driver's seat is pretty much under the steering wheel.
Are you 4ft tall, or is it an optical thing? (sorry, couldn't resist).
What do you run for winter shoes in Minnesota ... something stronger than RWD and all seasons?

Whew ... too many questions.

gdwriter
11-29-08, 09:34 PM
Had to pull both Betty and Cruella out of the garage to get to the attic and the Christmas decorations. Betty hasn't been out in the rain since I last washed her several weeks ago, so she's still pretty clean. I've taken Cruella through the automatic car wash a couple of times in between rainy days; good enough for this time of year:

http://www.gdwriter.q45.org/PB290034.jpg

blue07cts
11-29-08, 11:59 PM
Here she is, all parked in the dirt!

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c206/bcbba/002.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c206/bcbba/123456789a010.jpg

and my last CTS, LOVE my current one but still miss the 07!

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c206/bcbba/l_8fc122b0352ac189b5242dca0a88f497.jpg


OOO btw on a side note, i saw a bently flying spur get CREAMED on my way home from tonight but no pix!

Sandy
11-30-08, 12:53 AM
House looking great, gdwriter !

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
11-30-08, 01:30 AM
Interior shots!

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j313/Chadillac8705/Bianca/November2008020.jpg

Check out the DVD on the pass side floor! :cool2:

Vanilla coke FTW! I love that stuff am am so glad they brought it back. I would snap pictures of my truck right now but our camera just broke and won't turn on. Its filthy inside because I went muddin and we decided to get out a walk around a bit so now there is a nice layer of mud inside. I'm not gonna clean it out as it gives it class. :cool2:

Aron9000
11-30-08, 02:57 AM
^ That's probably one of the first Mercedes with a cupholder. Those squirrely Germans refused to put cup holders in their cars for a long time. Something about it being dangerous to drink vanilla coke on the autobahn at 150mph.

Jesda
11-30-08, 03:36 AM
http://www.gdwriter.q45.org/PB290034.jpg

With the way the lights glow on your glossy cars, it kind of looks like a drive-in!

Vesicant
11-30-08, 10:31 AM
Dreary day in FL today:

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4995/audinatyj2.jpg

ryannel2003
11-30-08, 11:18 AM
Ooh I like that Vesicant! A4?

Vesicant
11-30-08, 11:54 AM
Yessir, its a 1998 A4 2.8 Quattro. Picked it up recently to replace my daily-ricer Integra.

Jesda
11-30-08, 04:37 PM
Sharp looking Audi. Does it cost a lot to maintain?

Vesicant
11-30-08, 05:16 PM
Sharp looking Audi. Does it cost a lot to maintain?

Actually its not that bad- seals, suspension parts, etc. can be found discounted on numerous VW/Audi parts sites. You can fix and diagnose anything on the car with "V-A-G Com." software and Torx bits.

Kinda like the japanese import community though there are enough write ups available on the internets to work on stuff yourself.

However it does get expensive when its something "rare" that only the Audi/VW Dealer can fix- like alignment... :crying:. But thats why they're called stealerships.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
11-30-08, 08:17 PM
Chad, I love the wood detailing around the power seat controls. Very unique.
Is that silver button a lock, the button around the cup holder?
Two center console bins ... gotta love it.
From the angle of the photo, it looks like the driver's seat is pretty much under the steering wheel.
Are you 4ft tall, or is it an optical thing? (sorry, couldn't resist).
What do you run for winter shoes in Minnesota ... something stronger than RWD and all seasons?

Whew ... too many questions.

That silver part isn't a button or lock...I just push down on that to close the cupholders up...that's the sturdiest point on the assembly. And under the center console bins you see, there is another storage compartment that is air conditioned in summer, and it's got a roll-top drawer..on the older W140s, it was made of solid Burl Walnut, but this is leather covered.

And I'm 5'6"...I bought new all seasons last month and they seem to do pretty well in the white stuff.


^ That's probably one of the first Mercedes with a cupholder. Those squirrely Germans refused to put cup holders in their cars for a long time. Something about it being dangerous to drink vanilla coke on the autobahn at 150mph.

Or 127mph on I-371.... :shhh::shhh:


Dreary day in FL today:

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4995/audinatyj2.jpg


Nice! I'm starting to really like those 1st gen A4's....a friend in high school had a '98 1.8T with the 5 speed...definitely a nice car, and amazingly solid for a compact at speeds way above the legal limit...

Submariner409
11-30-08, 10:06 PM
Just finished a weekend of work, using the STS as part of a holiday decoration.

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
11-30-08, 11:00 PM
^ That's probably one of the first Mercedes with a cupholder. Those squirrely Germans refused to put cup holders in their cars for a long time. Something about it being dangerous to drink vanilla coke on the autobahn at 150mph.

Yeah. They considered driving an activity in itself and you should not be distracted by eating/drinking while driving, unlike us fat-ass Americans who need to do 8 things at once.

mythy
11-30-08, 11:13 PM
I think I'm going to cry but here goes it.. My baby may you RIP :(

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/2807/080608203329lt9.jpg

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/1136/1002500cb1.jpg

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/6131/1002550en1.jpg


a (good time) this is the price I paid...

LS1Mike
11-30-08, 11:36 PM
http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/23601202180.jpg?1224552882
http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/23601202179.jpg?1224552880
You have seen my other 4 cars. This is the winter beater 24 years old this year. 14 LBS of boost.
You can just catch my 1 ton pickup in the background.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-01-08, 10:11 AM
I like that two-tone paint scheme on that 3500...very '80s. :thumbsup:

LS1Mike
12-01-08, 07:49 PM
Hell yeah! The interior on it is like tweed and in perfect condition...
Might as well whore it out.
http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/484140166.jpg?1178415625
It matched the 5th wheel the original owner (who I got it from) towed.
Those are brand new take off GMC rims and tires I picked up for 350 bucks.

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
12-02-08, 02:06 PM
Thats a beauty of a truck Mike. Second best body style behind the 80's white trash lookin ones. Your winter car is also in very good shape for a "beater." My winter truck is all holey (not Jesus Holy).

Kick94sts
12-02-08, 09:12 PM
Hell yeah! The interior on it is like tweed and in perfect condition...
Might as well whore it out.
http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/484140166.jpg?1178415625
It matched the 5th wheel the original owner (who I got it from) towed.
Those are brand new take off GMC rims and tires I picked up for 350 bucks.



nice to see a FSC brother over here!

LS1Mike
12-02-08, 09:39 PM
I am on FSC. Great Site.

Kick94sts
12-02-08, 09:41 PM
I am on FSC. Great Site.



yea im KickAss89chev, lol

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-04-08, 12:14 AM
Hell yeah! The interior on it is like tweed and in perfect condition...
Might as well whore it out.
http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/484140166.jpg?1178415625
It matched the 5th wheel the original owner (who I got it from) towed.
Those are brand new take off GMC rims and tires I picked up for 350 bucks.


I bet that thing can lay a mean burnout. :drool: :drool:

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
12-04-08, 03:35 PM
Okay, I know I'm a little late here but it took me a while to borrow a camera that works. It snowed here the past few days and IL is the king of the salt spreaders so its pretty nasty. Here are the pics of my truck since the Caddy is in storage. I have also recently added 8 ft. of stainless steel wonder to the back of it. :) I have a confirmed range of 9 miles in the city but have yet to see what it will do on the open highway.


http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1992%20Rodeo/100_5969.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1992%20Rodeo/100_5970.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1992%20Rodeo/100_5971.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1992%20Rodeo/100_5973.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1992%20Rodeo/100_5975.jpg


Some pretty bad ass icicles that have been on there for about 2 days.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1992%20Rodeo/100_5972.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1992%20Rodeo/100_5976.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1992%20Rodeo/100_5977.jpg


The back is easily the messiest part because that is where I throw all my school stuff.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1992%20Rodeo/100_5974.jpg



And here is what the Caddy looks like right now.


http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/100_5980.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/100_5978.jpg


And this is the only thing that reminds me of what awaits come spring time. :)

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/100_5979.jpg

Po Pimp
12-05-08, 02:03 AM
No pictures of the uncovered Eldorado?

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
12-05-08, 10:38 PM
No pictures of the uncovered Eldorado?

Its actually a Fleetwood, but all small body caddies from the late 80's (DeVille, FWD Fleetwood, Eldos and to an extent even the Sevilles) look the same when they are under a car cover.


http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1988%20Fleetwood/100_5724.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1988%20Fleetwood/100_5731.jpg

96Fleetwood
12-06-08, 10:08 AM
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa306/96fleetwood/IMG_0316.jpg

93DevilleUSMC
12-07-08, 05:26 AM
September 2008, freshly cleaned:
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/dark_knight_flynn/Picture001.jpg

Friday of last week after being in a lot of rain and heavy traffic:
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/dark_knight_flynn/DSCN0491.jpg

Same day, new rear struts and springs installed:
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/dark_knight_flynn/DSCN0490.jpg

New exhaust tip:
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u219/dark_knight_flynn/DSCN0492.jpg

Aron9000
12-07-08, 10:50 PM
I usually wash it once or twice a week:

http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/25595216454.jpg?1228700721
http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/25595216457.jpg?1228700756
http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/25595216456.jpg?1228700744
http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/25595216455.jpg?1228700733
http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/25595216453.jpg?1228700709
http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/25595216452.jpg?1228700696

EDIT: Those pictures make it look black, but its really a dark navy blue.

ryannel2003
12-07-08, 10:57 PM
:drool:

I want.

93DevilleUSMC
12-08-08, 02:11 AM
Aaron, that car is NICE! What wash soap and wax do you use? Also, is that the original paint?

Aron9000
12-08-08, 02:25 AM
Aaron, that car is NICE! What wash soap and wax do you use? Also, is that the original paint?

Orginal paint. I use blue coral wash that you can get at autozone, etc. I really need to put a coat of wax on it, polish the stainless trim, and polish the chrome plated trim. To be truthful, the paint really needs a good polish with an expert detailer and a buffer. The wheels are pretty damn gross as well, I need to take them off and really clean in there with a toothbrush.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-08-08, 12:46 PM
OH MY GOD!! That car is AMAZING!

Night Wolf
12-18-08, 04:23 PM
Not so much "candid" but the Lincoln has felt left out since the purchase of the BMW and all... I just fixed it from the broken thermostat water outlet bolt and have been driving it around the past few days... it's been a couple months since I really drove it much, it's like a whole different driving experience. So, today after work I decided to wash it (not a full detail) and go down the road into the small "downtown" area of my small town for a few quick pics...

That caboose is part of the small depot/history museum of this little town, that railway is an active freight line.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/Lincoln/12-18-08/12-18-08005.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/Lincoln/12-18-08/12-18-08006.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/Lincoln/12-18-08/12-18-08007.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/Lincoln/12-18-08/12-18-08008.jpg

I am not going to sell it like I thought I may... it is just hardly getting used much, mostly in the colder months and when I need to drive more then 2 people (rare) as I prefer to take the BMW on roadtrips... still, the Lincoln is a nice car, and will get it's share of use, otherwise it stays parked in the driveway under it's own cover, just like the BMW. Heh, it feels nearly brand new and very refined when compared to the BMW, but thats also why I like the old BMW, it's a drivers car and it tells you how it feels :-)

gary88
12-19-08, 06:54 PM
Ice storm last night. The Seville is surprisingly clean for not being washed in about three weeks. They haven't been salting the roads as much this year.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3295/3120810581_ebe2de4800_o.jpg

Night Wolf
12-19-08, 07:05 PM
Ice storm last night. The Seville is surprisingly clean for not being washed in about three weeks. They haven't been salting the roads as much this year.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3295/3120810581_ebe2de4800_o.jpg

Did you just rotate your tires?

Either way, something is defintily wrong with the alignment, the car most likely gets a 4-wheel alignment... also are those supposed to be directional tires?

GizmoQ
12-20-08, 04:43 AM
I know the title of this thread is "Candid" but since there was no calendar this year and I went to all this trouble I wanted to share some of pics/photoshops from this past year.

http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/imagehosting/1310749075aff1c643.jpg

http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/imagehosting/13107493da92a3caf6.jpg

http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/imagehosting/131074908f29bb9703.jpg

http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/imagehosting/131074908f29b78066.jpg

http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/imagehosting/131074908f29b34e65.jpg

http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/imagehosting/131074908f29ae33b5.jpg

93DevilleUSMC
12-20-08, 05:03 AM
I know the title of this thread is "Candid" but since there was no calendar this year and I went to all this trouble I wanted to share some of pics/photoshops from this past year.

http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/imagehosting/1310749075aff1c643.jpg

http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/imagehosting/13107493da92a3caf6.jpg

http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/imagehosting/131074908f29bb9703.jpg

http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/imagehosting/131074908f29b78066.jpg

http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/imagehosting/131074908f29b34e65.jpg

http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/imagehosting/131074908f29ae33b5.jpg

^^ THAT is no mere car, sir. THAT is a technical wonder.

billc83
12-20-08, 09:50 AM
The '99 Deville in the middle of Blizzard '08.

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/47/l_68e10a0069bc4ed5be96dde765ad8f85.jpg

http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/53/l_3a4acc4fc0f1453895b006debd5f1d36.jpg

I was effectively snowed in for a day!

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-20-08, 11:58 AM
Gizmo, your car NEVER fails to amaze. :thumbsup:

Night Wolf
12-20-08, 05:09 PM
Just took this.... in a world of blah there sits a lone BMW...

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/BMW/misc/12-20-08001.jpg

It was 76* today, it's only been a few weeks, but I forgot how awesome top-down driving is.... it went down to 71* now :-( I may go drive around some more.

arnauts
12-20-08, 08:25 PM
Crap, looks like I'm not going anywhere..
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e84/Lithaine/17-12-08_1108.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e84/Lithaine/17-12-08_1109.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e84/Lithaine/17-12-08_1110.jpg
These are NOT xenons..
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e84/Lithaine/13-12-08_2134.jpg
I have snow soooooo much..

gary88
12-20-08, 08:55 PM
Did you just rotate your tires?

Either way, something is defintily wrong with the alignment, the car most likely gets a 4-wheel alignment... also are those supposed to be directional tires?

The last rotation was done at the dealer a loooong time ago, that's out of my jurisdiction. The right rear tire has an air leak though (was at 12psi at the time of that pic), so I'll have the alignment checked when I take it to the tire shop soon. Might get the tires filled with nitrogen at the dealer too.


Gizmo, your car NEVER fails to amaze. :thumbsup:

:yeah:

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-20-08, 10:22 PM
Crap, looks like I'm not going anywhere..

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e84/Lithaine/17-12-08_1109.jpg



I want that Mark V.

Night Wolf
12-20-08, 11:54 PM
The last rotation was done at the dealer a loooong time ago, that's out of my jurisdiction. The right rear tire has an air leak though (was at 12psi at the time of that pic), so I'll have the alignment checked when I take it to the tire shop soon. Might get the tires filled with nitrogen at the dealer too.



:yeah:

The inside of the left rear tire appears to be worn past the tread... usually camber out of limits would cause that.

Also, if those tires are in fact directional, then one of the rear ones is on the wrong side, which would mean one of the front ones is too... the center tread pattern is not in the same direction between the two tires in that picture.

arnauts
12-21-08, 12:36 AM
I want that Mark V.
You mean that 1978 Continental Mark V Diamond Jubilee w/ factory moonroof and CB?

ted tcb
12-21-08, 01:14 AM
Too damn cold up here.
Cars are covered in salt, winter steelies and snow all around.

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n243/tedtcb/Max.jpg

Just a few months ago, same car, same location.


http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n243/tedtcb/max2.jpg

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-21-08, 11:34 AM
You mean that 1978 Continental Mark V Diamond Jubilee w/ factory moonroof and CB?


Ohhh man! A Diamond Jubilee???? :drool: :drool:

Tell me that bad boy has the 460, not the 400.

Night Wolf
12-21-08, 11:52 AM
Man, all those pictures of snow-covered, salt-eaten cars.....

thats the biggest thing I enjoy about not being in NY, none of those winters, a cars age is not determined by how much rust it has down here.

arnauts
12-21-08, 04:56 PM
Ohhh man! A Diamond Jubilee???? :drool: :drool:

Tell me that bad boy has the 460, not the 400.

Yes, It's the 460. It's got some surprising features for a car of that age.
Factory dual exhaust
factory 4 wheel disc brakes
factory power lumbar support
factory umbrealla
factory tool kit
factory space saver spare w/ original Ford aerosol can
digital 'miles to empty' digital readout. can't believe how fast this thing falls.

I was using this as a daily driver for a couple of weeks while my Brougham was in for repairs, and it ended up costing me over $150/week in gas.
Sorry I don't have any other pictures of it, I just put it into storage for the winter last night.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-21-08, 06:36 PM
The Mark IV and V Lincolns are some of my favorite luxury cars of all time. I will own one at some point. I'd love a D.J. Edition '78, because it was the most well equipped Lincoln built up to that point, and they were extremely rare, and still had the 460. The Collector's Edition '79 Mark V had a better color scheme IMO (triple navy blue, velour interior), and has most of the features of the Diamond Jubilee Edition, but in 1979, Lincoln only had the 400, and they were S-L-O-W. So yeah, I'd take the Diamond Jubilee Edition....but would I go with the Jubilee Gold or Diamond (real light grey/blue) Blue?

Although I also really like the color scheme on the '79 Bill Blass Edition (two tone navy blue & white exterior, white full cloth top with white leather seats). Too bad they only had the 400. Although the 1977 Bill Blass edition might have the best color combo out of any of the "special edition" Mark V's (Navy blue with a dark tan top, dark tan leather interior and dark tan side accent stripe), it lacks the over the top amenities of the Diamond Jubilee and Collector's Editions, so I still think I like the DJ edition the most.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-21-08, 06:57 PM
I feel bad. The car deserves better. I need a garage.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j313/Chadillac8705/Bianca/12-21-08001.jpg

Night Wolf
12-21-08, 08:45 PM
I feel bad. The car deserves better. I need a garage.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j313/Chadillac8705/Bianca/12-21-08001.jpg

The blind spot mirrors would be more effective if placed at the outter ends of the mirrors, also allowing you to see the lines on the ground and where your tires are as you back into a spot.

ryannel2003
12-21-08, 08:56 PM
I'm so glad it only snows here once every 5 years.

arnauts
12-21-08, 09:34 PM
Haha, I will sell it to you. I can't afford to keep it around. It seems like every time I want to take it for a pleasure cruise, my bank account hemorrhages into a deficit.

ted tcb
12-22-08, 03:22 PM
Don't forget to advertise the V as "Never seen snow"!

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-22-08, 03:33 PM
Hey, if I bought that, I'd have a "V Series" too. :lildevil: :sneaky:


And it would have the biggest motor of any V series! :cool2:

(and the worst fuel economy.....)

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
12-23-08, 06:17 PM
Too damn cold up here.
Cars are covered in salt, winter steelies and snow all around.

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n243/tedtcb/Max.jpg

Just a few months ago, same car, same location.

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n243/tedtcb/max2.jpg

Where did the house go?

ted tcb
12-23-08, 07:01 PM
Now, that's funny.
I stopped and wondered for a moment. Where's the house?
We have a very long driveway for an urban property.
The summer pic was taken at a different position on the driveway ... making it look like
the neighbour's house went missing.
Now, it's time to go out and shovel the driveway ... 2nd time today.

FrankT
12-25-08, 09:15 AM
Michigan-Winter-Water-Wonderland. OK, I'm ready for spring now. Merry Christmas to all!

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-25-08, 10:30 AM
So I went to wash my car yesterday, it was the first clear, sunny day in weeks. So regardless of the fact the high was only 11* I had to get it cleaned up. So I paid the $8 for the top of the line car wash from the local joint, and before I parked to dry it off with my towel, all the water froze on it, so now instead of having salt caked to the body, I've got ice.

GizmoQ
12-25-08, 12:15 PM
Shoulda paid the 15 like I did and get them to hand wash and dry it!

ted tcb
12-25-08, 09:55 PM
Michigan-Winter-Water-Wonderland. OK, I'm ready for spring now. Merry Christmas to all!

Hi, Frank.
Is that a Sebring convertible in the background?
I almost bought a 2003 Limited this summer with low klm, but we couldn't
agree on the price.
What's it like driving a convertible in Michigan's weather ... heated seats
and lined top, right?
What's the Chrysler like for reliability and general driving impressions?

Thanks,
Ted.

Talamant3z
12-25-08, 10:05 PM
got to love 76 degree weather on christmas

http://i40.tinypic.com/2la4hv9.jpg

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
12-25-08, 11:22 PM
So I went to wash my car yesterday, it was the first clear, sunny day in weeks. So regardless of the fact the high was only 11* I had to get it cleaned up. So I paid the $8 for the top of the line car wash from the local joint, and before I parked to dry it off with my towel, all the water froze on it, so now instead of having salt caked to the body, I've got ice.

Haha. I know some people who work at a local car wash (Delta Sonic, which is very popular for teens to work at) and all through winter they get complaints that people's doors freeze shut. One kid I know replied, "Well, its not like we have magic f***ing water that doesn't freeze! What did you expect to happen?!"

The best part was he never even got in trouble for saying that to a customer.

96Fleetwood
12-26-08, 08:42 AM
Haha. I know some people who work at a local car wash (Delta Sonic, which is very popular for teens to work at) and all through winter they get complaints that people's doors freeze shut. One kid I know replied, "Well, its not like we have magic f***ing water that doesn't freeze! What did you expect to happen?!"

The best part was he never even got in trouble for saying that to a customer.

They still use brushes, I do not go there at all. I take our cars to Sudsational on Ogden. It is pricey but it is all indoor and they blow all the water from every crevice before they let your car out the door. It is all done by hand too.. cost $27 for the Tahoe in and out.

FrankT
12-26-08, 09:46 AM
Hi, Frank.
Is that a Sebring convertible in the background?
I almost bought a 2003 Limited this summer with low klm, but we couldn't
agree on the price.
What's it like driving a convertible in Michigan's weather ... heated seats
and lined top, right?
What's the Chrysler like for reliability and general driving impressions?

Thanks,
Ted.
Ted,

Yes that's my wife's 2005 Sebering Convertible, 60K miles and Zero problems. We'll one very strange electrical glich, but, all that was required was a battery disconnect for a few minutes to reset the BCM.

This is is our second one, the fist one was a 2002 Inferno Red it was also very reliable, but the wife hydro-planed and spun out and totaled it. It was such a good car that we went out an got another. As far as the R&H goes, it's has a lot more road noise than my caddy and makes it through the snow just fine. This has been our 3rd snow strom and the wife hasn't got stuck yet. I give it a solid 7.5 if 10 was the best.

Lined Top, no heated seats, leater seats and simulated wood grain on dash and doors. All around nice car for the money.
Here's another pic

billc83
12-26-08, 11:37 AM
Yeah, those last-gen Sebrings were alright cars. Pretty good looking, IMO. Too bad the new Sebring looks like it fell from the ugly tree, and hit every branch on the way down.

I went through a cab-forward phase a while back, but snapped out of it. Still like this and the Dodge Intrepid's looks though.

FrankT
12-26-08, 12:49 PM
Yeah, those last-gen Sebrings were alright cars. Pretty good looking, IMO. Too bad the new Sebring looks like it fell from the ugly tree, and hit every branch on the way down.

I went through a cab-forward phase a while back, but snapped out of it. Still like this and the Dodge Intrepid's looks though.

I agree, the wife and I don't care much for the new gen Sebring either. I've seen this happen before, the car manufactures take a nice looking reliable car/truck and turn into a p.o.s.

I remember how angry I was when Mercury took the Cougar/XR7 mid size car and turned into a little p.o.s in the 99MY. I owned two Cougar's XR7's, one with the 4cy turbo and the other with a 302cid, both nice cars. Then it turned into a...well you know what I mean.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-26-08, 03:11 PM
Shoulda paid the 15 like I did and get them to hand wash and dry it!

I suppose, but I have a hard time shelling out more than $8 for a car wash, especially in winter time, when I know it's just gonna be dirty in a day or two again.

What I should do next time is just pay like $3.00 so I can hose it off with the high pressure sprayer and hand dry it in the warm wash bay.

gary88
12-26-08, 11:19 PM
Look at this crap, I've never seen this much ice outside in my life. Now I always park my car perfectly parallel to the shrubs next to the house. Tonight I parked in the normal spot (on ice), went inside for a shower and dinner, then came back outside to put my car in the garage and found it crooked like this from the ice melting.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/gheb88/IMG_6704.jpg

And just an idea of what it's like out there right now with copious amounts of ice and fog.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/gheb88/IMG_6736.jpg

eyekandyboats.inc
12-26-08, 11:29 PM
the bottom half of the bottom picture looks like very rough ocean water with two small icebergs

I~LUV~Caddys8792
12-27-08, 01:35 PM
It rained yesterday, dropped below 32* and froze. I fell on my ass (half drunk mind you) in my friend's driveway and hurt the hell out of my right hand. It still hurts goddamnit.

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
12-27-08, 10:09 PM
Thats' a sweet picture Gary. That fog last night was intense. I was stuck doing 25-30 all the way home because you couldn't see more than 30 feet in front of you.

Jesda
12-30-08, 05:29 AM
http://www.q45.org/gallery2/d/45557-2/DCP_3279.JPG

Jesda
12-30-08, 05:30 AM
http://www.q45.org/gallery2/d/42613-3/SSPX0680.jpg

Night Wolf
12-30-08, 03:37 PM
http://www.q45.org/gallery2/d/45557-2/DCP_3279.JPG

LOL

It's 70* out.... I can get some topless pics of the BMW with the new tires...

STSj90
12-30-08, 10:26 PM
Here she is, all parked in the dirt!

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c206/bcbba/002.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c206/bcbba/123456789a010.jpg

and my last CTS, LOVE my current one but still miss the 07!


OOO btw on a side note, i saw a bently flying spur get CREAMED on my way home from tonight but no pix!


Did i see this caddy riding around marrianna FL one day? I swear i seen it..Awhile back tho.

blue07cts
12-30-08, 10:55 PM
you very well could have, i go so many places for work i don't remember half the towns i go 2. in the last 2 months i have been as far south as miami and as far north as gainesbille georgia north of atlanta)

STSj90
12-30-08, 11:03 PM
Well, did you ever see a STS get beside you. Cause i was beside the car that looked like yours. My car is A dark red STS(maroon color)..... I think you would remember.

blue07cts
12-31-08, 06:29 PM
Well, did you ever see a STS get beside you. Cause i was beside the car that looked like yours. My car is A dark red STS(maroon color)..... I think you would remember.


lol don't count on me remembering as i have the memorie of a goldfish (swim around the bowl, forget where you are swim around again to investigate your "new surroundings) and i see a LOT of caddy's so i mean i do remember seeing a red STS before but damn if i can remember where i was at the time. lol what time frame was this? also could you see the driver? i'm a 21 yearold guy so if the driver was an old lady we know it wasn't me. haha

gary88
02-21-09, 05:46 PM
Checked the tire pressure and added a quart of oil to the SLS today.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/gheb88/IMG_8734.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/gheb88/IMG_8735.jpg

gary88
03-06-09, 09:55 PM
The Seville is so dirty. Not worth washing because it's raining all day tomorrow.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/gheb88/IMG_8864.jpg

CadillacGurl
03-06-09, 10:54 PM
I love the DePaul University sticker :thumbsup:

ryannel2003
03-06-09, 11:16 PM
Dark Bronzemist is so much more attractive than the standard Bronzemist is. Car looks great, as usual.

01devilledts
03-07-09, 05:55 PM
Heres how my 68 sits as of today (3-07-09)

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b153/Camneedsfoodyo/68%20Cadi/IMG_0066.jpg

and on the 5th

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b153/Camneedsfoodyo/68%20Cadi/IMG_5683.jpg

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
03-08-09, 12:23 AM
^ With it riding that low I hope you plan on painting it flat black and polish the hell out of those bumpers.

01devilledts
03-08-09, 07:06 PM
well the flat black part is done....

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b153/Camneedsfoodyo/68%20Cadi/IMG_5697.jpg

but the bumpers and trim will be going out to be powder-coated black as well...

iowasevillests
03-08-09, 09:05 PM
Thats going to be one mean 68! Do you have an air/hydraulic lift in that car or is that a fixed drop?

And in the spirit of candid photo's, below is a very candid one of mine....so candid its not completely clothed...damn nails.

http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/ww59/logantheoriginal/f75ed479.jpg

And yes though it doesn't look like it, there is a jackstand under the car just in front of the cheap Craftsman jack that is getting replaced very very soon.

01devilledts
03-08-09, 10:26 PM
Thats going to be one mean 68! Do you have an air/hydraulic lift in that car or is that a fixed drop?


There is a full digital air suspension on it. I just finished it last week

ryannel2003
03-08-09, 10:53 PM
Thats going to be one mean 68! Do you have an air/hydraulic lift in that car or is that a fixed drop?

And in the spirit of candid photo's, below is a very candid one of mine....so candid its not completely clothed...damn nails.

http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/ww59/logantheoriginal/f75ed479.jpg

And yes though it doesn't look like it, there is a jackstand under the car just in front of the cheap Craftsman jack that is getting replaced very very soon.

Haha my car is in the same position at this current moment in the driveway. I'm using the jack the car came with. Surprisingly it works pretty well.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-08-09, 11:19 PM
My car, Ruthie's '93 Sedan deVille and Brian's dad's '93 LS400, which he is temporarily using, now that he has no vehicle of his own.
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs038.snc1/2669_551865496952_199104188_33621422_521918_n.jpg
We're a classy bunch. :cool2:

iowasevillests
03-08-09, 11:21 PM
There is a full digital air suspension on it. I just finished it last week

Thats going to be a sweet ride, I'd love to have something like that in the future, though my classic ride would more likely be a late 60's Chevy powered muscle car.

ryannel2003-Yeah I was kinda surprised at the jack as well....but my crappy floor jack is still a bit easier to use, plus I've got enough stuff neatly packed around the spare tire and on top of the jack that I don't want to pull the scissor jack out unless I have to.

Night Wolf
03-08-09, 11:41 PM
Candid:

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/Jeep/CB%20install/3-8-09007.jpg

With the trailer still connected to the Jeep, I'll be taking the BMW to work (training class) tomorrow - coolant leak has been fixed :)

As for the Jeep.... what could Rick possibly be doing now?!?

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/Jeep/CB%20install/3-8-09001.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/Jeep/CB%20install/3-8-09004.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/Jeep/CB%20install/3-8-09008.jpg

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
03-09-09, 12:50 AM
As for the Jeep.... what could Rick possibly be doing now?!?

Why is Rick talking in third person?

Night Wolf
03-09-09, 01:17 AM
Why is Rick talking in third person?

cause he's cool like dat.

Jesda
03-09-09, 03:00 AM
Rick ... its time to name your alter ego. :)

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
03-09-09, 03:42 PM
Rick ... its time to name your alter ego. :)

I vote for either Kirk or Kurt.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-10-09, 01:12 AM
Geoffrey, Ted or Ed.

eldorado99
03-10-09, 01:18 AM
Bob, Bill, or Ed.

Night Wolf
03-10-09, 03:10 PM
Right, Said, Fred.

q75gREOjyFI&feature=related

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
03-10-09, 03:21 PM
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/IMG_0154.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/IMG_0155.jpg

Night Wolf
03-10-09, 10:47 PM
I used to think it was funny to do that with my '79 DeVille too.

It was at the vo-tech that I sometimes drove to (went every morning of high school for last 2yrs) a girl that liked me was in criminal justice or something similar and part of their day was to go out and write parking tickets (sorta like points against school permit) for the parked cars... walked out to the car one day to see a note that said "This is not a compact car! but your side [opra] lights are cool! I'm letting you go, Have fun! *heart* [her name]

Jon
03-11-09, 08:40 AM
Last night:
http://www.jon04ctsv.com/images/IMG_3518.jpg

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
03-11-09, 10:21 AM
^ Ford = fail.

iowasevillests
03-11-09, 01:06 PM
^ Ford = fail.

Agreed, Jon you've got 2 CTS's listed in the profile and you load a pic of a Ford SUV.....even a filthy CTS is greater than a spotless Ford SUV.

Jon
03-11-09, 01:36 PM
Agreed, Jon you've got 2 CTS's listed in the profile and you load a pic of a Ford SUV.....even a filthy CTS is greater than a spotless Ford SUV.
Haven't driven my CTS-V since last October. If I posted a pic it would be of it under the car cover. It does not move in the winter.

The CTS is my dad's daily driver. The Explorer is my daily driver.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-11-09, 06:33 PM
You sold the Windstar and bought the Explorer??

Jon
03-11-09, 06:39 PM
You sold the Windstar and bought the Explorer??
My beautiful Windstar doesn't pass emissions and I don't feel like spending $450 every 2 years just to get a "conditional pass". There have been minor things breaking and I keep fixing it but it's just not worth it anymore... I'm looking at about a grand to get it to pass emissions and to spend that $$ on an older car like that didn't make sense. I loved it and still do, but having to worry about it all the time was driving me nuts. When shit breaks it usually breaks in the winter too; too cold to fix it myself. Just last month the power steering pump went. My father and I replaced it, then the week after the power steering return hose went. Couldn't do that ourselves in this weather and had to spend $200 for that.

It's sitting on my lawn right now. It'll be retired soon. I wish I had somewhere to park it so I could fix it when I have the time.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-11-09, 06:47 PM
Well that sucks but your new Ford is infinitely better.

iowasevillests
03-11-09, 07:02 PM
Haven't driven my CTS-V since last October. If I posted a pic it would be of it under the car cover. It does not move in the winter.

The CTS is my dad's daily driver. The Explorer is my daily driver.

Well in that case its completely understandable.....if I had a V that far north I would do the most to not bring it out in crappy weather also. Plus the SUV does look spiffy with the extra bling on the wheels :)

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
03-12-09, 12:32 AM
Ford is infinitely better.

Oxymoron.

Jesda
03-12-09, 01:21 AM
I'll vouch for the Explorer. Not exciting, but completely dependable.

CadillacGurl
03-12-09, 05:01 AM
My Dad had an Explorer as a rental car about 6 month back. Too plastic-y for my liking (then again I'm used to a Mercedes and an upscale Toyota, oxymoron??) . Plus the shifter was directly behind the center counsel so I wacked my elbow a good number of times driving that thing. I can imagine it's a good DD though, good luck Jon!

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
03-12-09, 11:42 AM
upscale Toyota, oxymoron??

Yes, also an oxymoron. :)

In all reality though I do like the Avalons. They are comfortable and spacious for a decent price. Kind of the cheap luxury predecessor of the Genesis.

gary88
03-12-09, 12:09 PM
One of my friends used to have a 2000 explorer. Not terribly exciting, but it was reliable.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-12-09, 08:18 PM
I have a friend who's nuts about Explorers. In the ~8 months I've known him, he's had two. A 2001 XLT that was rear ended at 55 (he did pretty good in the accident) and an '04 Eddie Bauer with the 4.0L V6....pretty slick truck if I say so myself.

Aron9000
03-14-09, 02:22 AM
Yes, also an oxymoron. :)

In all reality though I do like the Avalons. They are comfortable and spacious for a decent price. Kind of the cheap luxury predecessor of the Genesis.

My mom has a 2000 Avalon, pretty base with cloth seats. Its a pretty nice car, very comfortable, quiet, great seats, huge trunk and back seat. Awesome road trip car. Its pretty slow, but gas mileage is awesome, 21-24 in town, 30mpg highway. Its pretty well made, but doesn't have that sort of luxury swagger you get with a Lexus or Caddy.

It is a 100x better car than your standard issue Accord or Camry IMO.

gdwriter
03-21-09, 08:06 PM
Pulled Sabrina out of the garage today to get out the lawn mower that's parked between the cars. Took a few very candid shots of the two Cadillacs. Poor Cruella is very dirty; she really does have whitewalls up front, I swear. Sabrina doesn't look too bad even after a couple days of rain.

http://www.q45.org/gdwriter/P3210002.jpg

http://www.q45.org/gdwriter/P3210003.jpg

http://www.q45.org/gdwriter/P3210005.jpg

http://www.q45.org/gdwriter/P3210007.jpg

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-21-09, 08:11 PM
Man, Cruella looks long compared to Sabrina, even though she's only 3-4 inches longer...

Jesda
03-22-09, 12:25 AM
Man, Cruella looks long compared to Sabrina, even though she's only 3-4 inches longer...

Girth > Length

gary88
03-22-09, 01:01 AM
Girth > Length

sounds like an XM commercial I keep hearing

I~LUV~Caddys8792
03-22-09, 08:44 AM
Girth > Length


That's what she said.

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
04-06-09, 12:00 AM
Took these just now. Its April and of course it decided to snow. I was mostly out there because I was bored and I felt like playing with different shutter speeds and lighting and stuff. I was surprised at how good the night pictures are for a $165 Canon camera. It is an A2000 that I got my Mom for Christmas. The first few pictures I took with the front lights on which helped greatly. I also have a tripod.


http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/IMG_0235.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/IMG_0240.jpg


Its some nasty sticky stuff too.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/IMG_0241.jpg


There is something awesome under there.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/IMG_0242.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/IMG_0244.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/IMG_0245.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/IMG_0250.jpg

eXile
04-06-09, 12:07 AM
I hear ya man, here in Barrington they're calling for 4+ inches. Is this April or Feb.?

Either way awesome looking caddy, gotta get it cleaned up for parking it in compact car spots tomorrow bro!

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
05-12-09, 12:20 AM
I spent about 6 hours cleaning the outside of my car today. I washed it, clay bared it and then waxed it and polished up the chrome. Its blinding now. I took these when the tire shine was still wet so it looks kinda blotchy. Tomorrow and Wednesday I need to work on the interior.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/IMG_0312.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/IMG_0313.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/IMG_0315.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/IMG_0317.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/IMG_0318.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/IMG_0314.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/IMG_0319.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/IMG_0321.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/IMG_0322.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/IMG_0323.jpg

Aron9000
05-12-09, 12:33 AM
WOW! Wish the paint and chrome was that nice on my car.

I'll give you another tip, replace those faded ornaments. I bought all of mine off of ebay, brand new, for pretty reasonable prices. The c-pillar wreaths have pegs on the back, so make sure you get ones with pegs, they come without pegs as well. Replacing them really makes the car just pop and look brand new.

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
05-12-09, 12:45 AM
WOW! Wish the paint and chrome was that nice on my car.

I'll give you another tip, replace those faded ornaments. I bought all of mine off of ebay, brand new, for pretty reasonable prices. The c-pillar wreaths have pegs on the back, so make sure you get ones with pegs, they come without pegs as well. Replacing them really makes the car just pop and look brand new.

Yeah, its on my to do list. The ornamentation on my '88 looks brand spankin' new and it is nice. The other ornaments (C-pillar and trunk) on my '90 are in pretty nice shape but the hood ornament is long gone. The cheapest one I can find on Ebay is like $45 though. :(

Haha, I just noticed you can see my Wal-Mart Pharmacy sign in the fourth picture. We had to replace the signs on the cart corrals at work so I took three of them home to be used to shooting targets. They are surprisingly think so hopefully the .22 won't ricochet on me.

ryannel2003
05-12-09, 12:59 AM
That is an absolutely stunning Brougham! I need to get off my ass and clay bar my STS one day.

gdwriter
05-12-09, 01:55 AM
Very nice work there, John. You'd never know this was a nearly 20-year-old car. Love how the emblems reflect off the bumper. What did you use for the chrome? I need to detail Betty for car show season, and I'd love to have bumpers that shined like yours.

As for the hood ornament, just be patient and keep looking every so often. You could easily find one that's mint for cheap. I did, and I even managed to sell the faded one for more than I paid for the new one!

http://www.gdwriter.com/cruella/P2120002.jpg

Is the hood ornament different on the RWD models vs. FWD? You could always just swap it with the Fleetwood.

Aron9000
05-12-09, 02:26 AM
Is the hood ornament different on the RWD models vs. FWD? You could always just swap it with the Fleetwood.

The RWD ones were bigger. Its the same from 86-92, and I'm 98.4% certain a 80-84 Fleetwood is the same(Fleetwoods had the wreath and crest, Devilles just had the crest).

As for chrome polish, Turtle wax chrome polish is great stuff. You can find it at any O'Riley's, Pep-Boys, etc.

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
05-12-09, 11:21 AM
Very nice work there, John. You'd never know this was a nearly 20-year-old car. Love how the emblems reflect off the bumper. What did you use for the chrome? I need to detail Betty for car show season, and I'd love to have bumpers that shined like yours.

Is the hood ornament different on the RWD models vs. FWD? You could always just swap it with the Fleetwood.

I used some stuff I got a Wal-Mart. It is Eagle One Never Dull Wadding Polish. It comes in a little can. Its great because it is just wadding soaked in chrome polish so it is not messy. Apply it, let it dry and buff away.

The RWD emblems are HUGE compared to the FWD ones, but then again everything on the RWD cars is large and in charge.

The pictures look a lot better than it does in person. It is one of those cars that looks great from about 5 feet back but when you get close you start to see all the imperfections. I recently had a chip of paint come off near my rear door (I cut myself trying to find a dime) and I found several scratches while waxing it. The car was repainted and they did a shitty job and the person who had it repainted was a retard for accepting such poor work. Here you can also see my nasty headlight from when the bulb exploded inside it. I bought a new pair off Ebay for $99 and they should be arriving soon. It looks awful at night because it scatters the light and makes it look all yellowy.


http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/IMG_0329.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/IMG_0328.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/IMG_0330.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/IMG_0332.jpg

gdwriter
05-12-09, 03:45 PM
Even so, for a nearly 20-year-old car, it looks good. Cruella has a number of nicks and scratches, plus the hood has a lot of chips in it. I think the DS quarter panel may have been repainted at some point because it's a bit faded, while the rest of the paint is still pretty shiny.

Thanks for the tip on the Never Dull. Besides the bumpers, I'll bet they'll do a great job on Betty's hubcaps. Those spinners will really gleam.

I looked up on the Eagle One site and saw they now have a wheel coating to prevent brake dust, which drives me nuts. Will have to swing by NAPA this week.

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
05-12-09, 08:16 PM
spinners

:nono:

ga_etc
05-12-09, 08:40 PM
The Eldorado hanging out the the Prelude. They both need to be cleaned up but it won't stop raining around here it seems like.
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=365&pictureid=3561
Here's one where I was just out riding around and just happened to have my camera with me. Came out pretty good I thought.
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=365&pictureid=3559

I~LUV~Caddys8792
05-12-09, 09:28 PM
John, your Brougham is magnificent. I love those 90-92's. They perfected one of their best designs.

Night Wolf
05-12-09, 10:28 PM
I spent about 6 hours cleaning the outside of my car today. I washed it, clay bared it and then waxed it and polished up the chrome. Its blinding now. I took these when the tire shine was still wet so it looks kinda blotchy. Tomorrow and Wednesday I need to work on the interior.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/IMG_0312.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/IMG_0313.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/IMG_0315.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/IMG_0317.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/IMG_0318.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/IMG_0314.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/IMG_0319.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/IMG_0321.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/IMG_0322.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/IMG_0323.jpg

Beautiful car! I'd reccomend a set of wire wheels... heck even the factory wire spoked hub caps looked really good, I think it'd really make the car stand out. That is unless you really like the dog dish caps.

I know on my past Cadillacs and my Lincoln, buying a new/NOS hood ornament made it feel like driving a whole new car.... odd how that played with the mind I guess.

BTW, FWD and RWD hood ornaments are NOT interchangable. Besides the size, they use an entirely different base setup.

SMILE! Candid:

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/BMW2/4-30-09/4-30-09004.jpg

The 20-yr update continues.... may as well be a brand new car by the time I'm done with it...

gdwriter
05-13-09, 12:04 AM
:nono:I'm not talking about those ghetto bling spinners. These are factory.

http://www.gdwriter.com/graphics/hubcap.jpg

http://www.q45.org/gdwriter/wou_show/images/WOU%20Show%202006%20-%2004.jpg

Spinner hubcaps were very popular from the mid 50s until Ralph Nader got them banned after 1966. Yet another reason to hate him.

Aron9000
05-13-09, 01:09 AM
I'm not talking about those ghetto bling spinners. These are factory.

http://www.gdwriter.com/graphics/hubcap.jpg

http://www.q45.org/gdwriter/wou_show/images/WOU%20Show%202006%20-%2004.jpg

Spinner hubcaps were very popular from the mid 50s until Ralph Nader got them banned after 1966. Yet another reason to hate him.

Why were they banned? I could see knock off wire wheels being dangerous, but its a freaking hubcap!

BTW, I saw a newer(2007ish) Mustang on the dealer lot with spinners instead of the regular center caps. It looked like this, but on a different set of wheels

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/attachments/2005-talk/9998d1123375595-2005-2006-spinner-kits-just-released-spinners-002.jpg

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
05-13-09, 01:37 AM
They were originally designed to hold the entire wheel on, not just the hubcap. Instead of torquing lug nuts you would take a brass or other soft faced hammer and smash those suckers on tight. The brass was softer than the spinning hubs so it didn't damage them (usually). You can buy spinner hubs again though as I have seen some 100 spoke aftermarket wheels with them.

gdwriter
05-13-09, 02:11 AM
They were originally designed to hold the entire wheel on, not just the hubcap. Instead of torquing lug nuts you would take a brass or other soft faced hammer and smash those suckers on tight. The brass was softer than the spinning hubs so it didn't damage them (usually). You can buy spinner hubs again though as I have seen some 100 spoke aftermarket wheels with them.I've inspected a couple of Jaguar XK-Es that had the knock-off wheels. Loved the ones used on the Corvette from 1963-66.

Normally, I hate wire wheel covers, but the spinners make the ones on Betty look cool.

BTW, I bought some of that Never Dull polish and the Eagle One Wheel Keep Clean. Now I just need to find time to wash and detail Betty before Saturday's show. I'll try to post some before and after pictures.

Night Wolf
05-13-09, 11:31 PM
How bout' some candid XXX pics of Noelle's undercarriage???

This is why her middle name is Pandora.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/BMW2/5-13-09/5-13-09002.jpg

Transmission was supported by a jackstand in that picture, no difference, as I could bench press the thing. Not seeing it? Here:

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/BMW2/5-13-09/5-13-09011.jpg

Both tranmissions mounts no longer.... mounted anything. They were simply now "supports" That above picture was just from supporting the weight of the trans with a jack stand and unbolting the crossmember from the car. It's not supposed to do that. That trans oil leak is also on the list of things to fix.

2-piece driveshaft w/ Center Support Bearing. The entire exhaust system had to be dropped to get to this.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/BMW2/5-13-09/5-13-09016.jpg

E30 playa!

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/BMW2/5-13-09/5-13-09017.jpg

Totally shot shifter linkage assembly that allowed un-BMW amounts of play in the shifter. I'm thinking between the extremely shot linkage assembly and the 2 transmission mounts that were.....shot... it may have had something to do with the trouble downshifting into 2nd... so maybe the synchros aren't as bad as I thought. We'll see.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/BMW2/5-13-09/5-13-09023.jpg

Cost to rebuild the entire shifter assembly replacing every single wear item? $350 in parts from the dealer. Heck I'm just happy BMW still (fully!) supports the E30, you can buy a whole factory dash from them (for $550!) that is even upgraded with the new BMW material. To heck with costs, I just applaud the fact that they still support their old stuff.... GM gives up on things after 7-10yrs.

With that said, $100 of that $350 went to my new short shifter - Z3 1.9, which most E30 fans consider to be just about the perfect blend and feel for a fun daily driver. Stock E30 325i on the left, Z3 1.9 on the right. Maybe now shifting gears in the BMW won't feel like the Jeep anymore.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/BMW2/5-13-09/5-13-09024.jpg

Once this is all back together, it'll be finished off with a nice, real BMW shift knob, as well as a nice new leather shifter and parking brake boot kit. Seeing as how the manual transmission, IMO is the entire central point of this whole car, this work alone is just huge, and I can't wait to see what it'll be like after words.

These are only a few of the issues/pictures. I never took pictures of the rear shock mounts that were literally not even holding the shocks to the chassis of the car anymore. In fact, I am rather amazed at how well the car, as a whole... still just.... worked. With a certain level of percision too. I mean, the suspension was shot, but she still handled. Every part in the shifter linkage that could wear out, is, and both transmisson mounts are split in half... the shifter had about a foot of play in gear, yet it still went into each gear, every time, I could shift aggressive and it still did it's thing. The distrubutor cap and rotor were original (date code stamped on them) and in turn, about as worn out as they could reasonably get.... yet the engine still ran, with some level of performance (it sounds and revs much better now tho!) Really, it is just amazing how well built this car is, for it to perform the way it was, in the condition it was in. To say it'll be like a whole new car to me once complete will be an understatement.

Ah well.... it's all in the fun. I'm sleepy now.

Aron9000
05-14-09, 12:08 AM
How many miles are on the BMW?

Night Wolf
05-14-09, 12:26 AM
Right around 140k

She's a 1990, with a build date of 7/89. Same month as my birthday, shes coming up on 20 yrs old. Good news on E30s, they don't have alot of rubber parts that fail over time. Bad news with E30s, the rubber parts they do have, are a bit more involved to replace then a comparable GM etc...

I don't blame any of the worn out stuff on the car at all, I mean it's a 20-yr old car with 140k miles, and who knows what kind of life it lived in the past.

IIRC, I am the 4th owner, and it was a leased vehicle when new, which could be a good or bad thing. Maybe some rich lawyer had it and took it to the dealer for everything (BMW was strict about that, especially their leases) but leased vehicles can sometimes be driven harder/abused.

In any case, my car definitly shows (many) signs of being driven hard in it's past. All wear items that would fail/wear/need to be replaced from hard driving, were shot on my car. It's really not a big deal, as I'm sure I drive it just as hard as anyone in the past... I guess it's some of the thrill with the old BMW's they were built well and cold hold up to alot. I'm going to enjoy the heck outta this thing, it's my favorite car I've owned to date. The plan is, if it breaks, I fix it. Keeps things simple that way :)

She'll be going up to NY with me later this year when I got back for a week, so I'm going to be doing even other preventative maintenace items sooner, rather then later as well.

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
05-14-09, 02:29 AM
My friend's Camaro had a broken trans mount. Every time you put it into reverse it would clunk and move around. One of my other friends had a crappy old Tempo with a broken motor mount. That thing was hilarious. Every time you put the car into drive the engine would smash up into the hood. It did it so many times and with so much force it dented the center of the hood out about 4 inches.

gdwriter
05-14-09, 03:11 AM
Betty had a broken motor mount when I first got her. If you gunned the engine, you'd hear a screeching sound. Turns out, it was the fan blade hitting the shroud from the engine twisting.

Night Wolf
05-14-09, 06:09 AM
That's the interesting thing, my 4.9 broke the front motor mount twice, and you knew it for sure.

I had no idea both trans mounts were bad. There was no violent jerks or clunks. Even when the drive shaft was connected, I could lift up the trans and it would rotate the entire engine and trans on the motor mounts. Only thing limiting the up motion was the tunnel in the floor.

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
05-14-09, 11:33 AM
Betty had a broken motor mount when I first got her. If you gunned the engine, you'd hear a screeching sound. Turns out, it was the fan blade hitting the shroud from the engine twisting.

My Brougham is too cool to just twist the engine. When you start it up the whole car torques to the side. Its bad ass. :D

Night Wolf
05-14-09, 05:31 PM
My Brougham is too cool to just twist the engine. When you start it up the whole car torques to the side. Its bad ass. :D

So does my Jeep.

Talamant3z
05-14-09, 11:31 PM
my eldo and used to be seville

http://www.hi-upload.com/upload/uploaded11/12312e132ed.JPG

http://www.hi-upload.com/upload/uploaded11/123212323.JPG

I~LUV~Caddys8792
05-15-09, 12:13 AM
My Brougham is too cool to just twist the engine. When you start it up the whole car torques to the side. Its bad ass. :D

My Roadmaster did that. I don't think the Astro does, but I KNOW the S Class doesn't. The engine is too small. :(

Aron9000
05-15-09, 01:20 AM
My Brougham is too cool to just twist the engine. When you start it up the whole car torques to the side. Its bad ass. :D

Mine does that too, and my old LS1 Camaro did the same thing. I love revving the engine in both of those cars while in park, it makes the whole car dance.

gdwriter
05-15-09, 02:26 AM
John, I owe you one for the tip on the Never Dull. After washing Betty and detailing Sabrina (ran her through the car was on the way home from work), I ran out of time to do much with it before dark. But I'm very happy with the results.

Did one hubcap and found the wadding could get behind the spokes and really clean up the chrome in the center.

Before:

http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs012.snc1/4198_81221583093_776743093_1643511_4828248_n.jpg

After:

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs012.snc1/4198_81221593093_776743093_1643512_3746138_n.jpg

Saturday's show doesn't start until 11, so I can shine up the rest of the hubcaps, the bumpers and the chrome that morning.

gdwriter
05-15-09, 02:34 AM
Inspired by some of Gary Hebding's photos, I took a couple of glamour shots of Sabrina this evening. I'm nowhere near the photographer he is, but I'm happy with how they turned out. The wheel shot would have been better if I had gotten it 10 minutes earlier before the sun went down behind the house across the street; the lighting was really nice. But the tire dressing hadn't fully dried yet.

http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs012.snc1/4198_81221073093_776743093_1643505_1753574_n.jpg

http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs012.snc1/4198_81221053093_776743093_1643503_756300_n.jpg

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs012.snc1/4198_81221058093_776743093_1643504_1694233_n.jpg

gdwriter
05-16-09, 09:05 PM
Finished detailing Betty this morning for today's car show; that Never Dull stuff does a really good job, and it didn't take too long, despite the amount of chrome I had to polish:

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs012.snc1/4198_81779268093_776743093_1650550_3343500_n.jpg

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs012.snc1/4198_81779258093_776743093_1650549_8035934_n.jpg

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs012.snc1/4198_81779238093_776743093_1650547_7537546_n.jpg

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs012.snc1/4198_81779233093_776743093_1650546_3274162_n.jpg

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs012.snc1/4198_81779218093_776743093_1650544_6649625_n.jpg

http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs012.snc1/4198_81779213093_776743093_1650543_7587863_n.jpg

http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs012.snc1/4198_81779228093_776743093_1650545_7948298_n.jpg

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs012.snc1/4198_81779183093_776743093_1650541_5463775_n.jpg
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs012.snc1/4198_81779178093_776743093_1650540_7962507_n.jpg

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs012.snc1/4198_81779168093_776743093_1650539_4968249_n.jpg

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs012.snc1/4198_81779163093_776743093_1650538_7778292_n.jpg

And yes, the air conditioning works. It damn well should for the money I've put into it.

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
05-16-09, 11:08 PM
Gary, damn you and your amazingly nice old car. [shakes angry fist] :)

I found out about the Never Dull from friend. He had some come with a car he got that had 20" rims on it (we quickly sold those for $600).

Jesda
05-16-09, 11:20 PM
http://www.q45.org/cpg/albums/wpw-20090516/normal_DCP_3945.JPG

Candid!

gdwriter
05-16-09, 11:23 PM
Gary, damn you and your amazingly nice old car. [shakes angry fist] :)Thanks. Betty means a lot to me; not only is she a beautiful classic and a kick to drive, she gave me back a connection to my past. My love for cars started with a '64 Impala.

It took 15 years between the time my Dad sold the Impala I grew up with and when I bought Betty. I looked off and on over those years (mostly off), but the right car came around at the right time. It was love at first sight, and every time I drive her, I'm reminded how lucky I am to have her.

Now, if I could just have the kind of luck with women that I've had with my cars, and I'd be in great shape. :rolleyes:

gdwriter
05-16-09, 11:27 PM
BTW, pictures from the show are here (http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=76736&id=776743093&l=c8ef03c159). It's a nice show, not too big, and there was some very nice cars there, including another '64 Impala that's practically brand new. All original with only 12,000 miles. A new Challenger R/T was there, too. I like it, especially the front, but it's just too damn big. It would look so much better if it were closer in size to the Mustang or Camaro.

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
05-16-09, 11:45 PM
Ugh, I HATE when people bring their brand new cars to CLASSIC car shows like that ahole with the Challenger. Now, if you were like my uncle and brought your '71 Challenger and had it sitting next to your new Challenger, that is a different story. However, the only things that belong in car shows are cars over 15 years old or cars they no longer make/are rare (like the Viper).

77CDV
05-16-09, 11:53 PM
That's one gorgeous Impala, Gary. Normally, green cars don't do it for me, but on Betty it somehow looks just right! :)

gdwriter
05-17-09, 12:04 AM
Ugh, I HATE when people bring their brand new cars to CLASSIC car shows like that ahole with the Challenger. Now, if you were like my uncle and brought your '71 Challenger and had it sitting next to your new Challenger, that is a different story. However, the only things that belong in car shows are cars over 15 years old or cars they no longer make/are rare (like the Viper).It's not specifically a classic car show; since it's at a university, there are usually student cars there, too, and most of them are fairly new ricers (although the best student car went to a guy with a '70 Chevy truck).

The guy with the Challenger was actually pretty cool. His Dad owns the '68 Camaro that was parked next to it.


That's one gorgeous Impala, Gary. Normally, green cars don't do it for me, but on Betty it somehow looks just right! :)Thanks, Craig. Close up, she has her flaws, but she's a driver and will never be a 100-point restoration; I enjoy driving her too much to put her under glass.

Green isn't a color I would normally choose for a car, but I just got lucky when I found Betty; she's the same color Meadow Green as the '64 Impala I grew up with.

77CDV
05-17-09, 02:20 PM
Thanks, Craig. Close up, she has her flaws, but she's a driver and will never be a 100-point restoration; I enjoy driving her too much to put her under glass.



Nice to know there's someone else out there who thinks the better part of classic car ownership is enjoying them as they were meant to be enjoyed...on the road! :thumbsup:

gdwriter
05-17-09, 06:10 PM
Nice to know there's someone else out there who thinks the better part of classic car ownership is enjoying them as they were meant to be enjoyed...on the road! :thumbsup:Exactly. As beautiful as these cars are, just looking at them is less than half of the pleasure of owning one.

It's easy to see why early Sixties Impalas were so popular when you drive one. Chevrolet's advertising promoting the Jet-Smooth Ride was, for once, not an exaggeration. And that smooth ride does not come at the expense of handling (unlike many of its contemporaries). Even though it's no sports car, there's no float or mushiness in the suspension. A 283 or 327 small-block has more than adequate power, is silky smooth and sounds so damn good. The power steering is pretty slow; you turn that big wheel a lot, but you can still feel the road (also in contrast to some of the competition). Even with the original drum brakes all around, I've never had a problem, even coming down the steep grade on my favorite twisty road.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
05-17-09, 11:27 PM
Gary, I saw a '64 Impala SS Coupe the other day at Hooked On Classics. It was black/black, and it had the 250hp 327 and the powerglide. An awful lot like your car. I have pics...

orconn
05-18-09, 12:33 AM
I couldn't agree more that collector cars should enjoyed for what are cars ........ and driven and enjoyed as the four dimensional machines that they are. As Chairman of the Jaguar Club of Virginia's annual Concours d'Elegance (a JCNA show for national points) for several years I saw many beautifully restored cars. These cars were not just restored but put into condition far better than they left the Jaguar factory. The cars arrived in enclosed trailers in lined car covers and then began the on site final cleaning. While these cars were beautiful to look at they in no way reflected the reality of what these cars were when they were new. Their condition and the requirements of Concours competition prohited the car from really being used and enjoyed.

Fortunately their were divisions in the show for "Driven" cars, and also for unrestored cars that had been well maintained throughout their lives. This last class was where I showed my '64 E-type Series I Coupe. By no means immaculate it was well cared for and original ......... I also drove it frequently until I sold it a year ago. To me the enjoyemnt of owning these old cars is in continued use of them for transportation and mobile recreation.

My 1995 Seville STS is used every day and kept in prime mechanical and cosmetic condition. Now that business considerations no longer require my driving "new" cars, I am thoroughly enjoying being able have as a daily driver a car I consider a real 1990's classic!

gdwriter
05-18-09, 02:11 AM
Gary, I saw a '64 Impala SS Coupe the other day at Hooked On Classics. It was black/black, and it had the 250hp 327 and the powerglide. An awful lot like your car. I have pics...Same powertrain as Betty. Yes, send the pictures please.


I couldn't agree more that collector cars should enjoyed for what are cars ........ and driven and enjoyed as the four dimensional machines that they are. As Chairman of the Jaguar Club of Virginia's annual Concours d'Elegance (a JCNA show for national points) for several years I saw many beautifully restored cars. These cars were not just restored but put into condition far better than they left the Jaguar factory. The cars arrived in enclosed trailers in lined car covers and then began the on site final cleaning. While these cars were beautiful to look at they in no way reflected the reality of what these cars were when they were new. Their condition and the requirements of Concours competition prohited the car from really being used and enjoyed.

Fortunately their were divisions in the show for "Driven" cars, and also for unrestored cars that had been well maintained throughout their lives. This last class was where I showed my '64 E-type Series I Coupe. By no means immaculate it was well cared for and original ......... I also drove it frequently until I sold it a year ago. To me the enjoyemnt of owning these old cars is in continued use of them for transportation and mobile recreation.The car shows I attend are definitely not in the league of a Concours d'Elegance, but cars that are so perfect they can't be driven and enjoyed don't interest me beyond appreciating their beauty. I will occasionally come across a trailer queen at one of the shows I attend, but I never vote for them.

I do classic car inspections whenever there's one in my area, and I've done two E-Types, a '67 and a '74 V-12. I didn't get to drive the V-12 that far, and it was just OK, but the '67 was one of my favorites. Took it out on the freeway, and the owner encouraged me to open it up. What a rush! Amazingly, all the original Lucas electrics worked, too.

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
05-18-09, 10:19 PM
It angers me that your 327 has more hp than my 350...

Aron9000
05-18-09, 10:24 PM
It angers me that your 327 has more hp than my 350...

Remember that the 327 was rated in gross hp, your 350 was rated in SAE net horsepower. Net is roughly 2/3 of gross, so it would've been around 167 hp, or just round up to 170.

gdwriter
05-19-09, 02:37 AM
It angers me that your 327 has more hp than my 350...


Remember that the 327 was rated in gross hp, your 350 was rated in SAE net horsepower. Net is roughly 2/3 of gross, so it would've been around 167 hp, or just round up to 170.Good point. On the other hand, my 327 doesn't have all that smog equipment choking it up.

What's surprising is that Betty only weighs about 3,700 lbs., roughly the same as Cruella and lighter than Sabrina, which is just under two tons. So even if the net hp is lower, Betty has a lot less mass to haul around than your Brougham.

Betty's no speed demon, but I've never been at a loss for power, passing on two-lane highways is a breeze, and I've even smoked the right rear tire doing a power brake.

Aron9000
05-19-09, 03:18 AM
The Brougham weighs about 4250lbs, so even for a big car its pretty light.

By comparison:
2009 Tahoe: 5581lbs
2009 Benz S-550: 4464lbs
2009 Chrysler 300c:4096lbs
2009 Dodge Challenger SRT-8: 4140lbs
2009 Chevy Z-71 1500 Extra cab: 5142lbs

As far as power, the 350 tbi is all torque. You really don't need to put the pedal down more than halfway driving normally or merging. Pushing it to the floor doesn't make it go any faster, since it pretty much falls on its face past 4000rpms.

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
05-19-09, 11:35 AM
As far as power, the 350 tbi is all torque. You really don't need to put the pedal down more than halfway driving normally or merging. Pushing it to the floor doesn't make it go any faster, since it pretty much falls on its face past 4000rpms.

Yeah it is. Sometimes it feels as though I can make it accelerate faster by only giving it 1/2 throttle and keeping the trans from down shifting. If it down shifts you get a whole lot of noise but not a lot of go. Up to about 25-30 the thing is a rocket. It falls on its face from 30-42 and then it shifts and takes off again but it takes FOREVER to get though that 30-42 range. I will have to make a video.

gdwriter
05-19-09, 03:12 PM
Yeah it is. Sometimes it feels as though I can make it accelerate faster by only giving it 1/2 throttle and keeping the trans from down shifting. If it down shifts you get a whole lot of noise but not a lot of go. Up to about 25-30 the thing is a rocket. It falls on its face from 30-42 and then it shifts and takes off again but it takes FOREVER to get though that 30-42 range. I will have to make a video.With a two-speed Powerglide, Betty only shifts once, usually at about 2,000 RPM (I have a tach installed under the dash, but I can flip it up to hide it if I want to) under normal acceleration. If I'm really stepping on the gas from a dead stop, the tranny will shift at about 3,000 RPM. The 327 has enough torque that power doesn't fall off after shifting out of first gear.

In 10 years of driving this car, I think it's kicked down for passing maybe once or twice, and that will fling you into the back seat if you're not belted in. I can just step on the gas not to the floor, mind you to pass on a two-lane highway, and Betty will accelerate quickly and smoothly.

Night Wolf
05-19-09, 08:42 PM
I much rather see classics getting driven and used as they were intended then trailered all over. I'd rather see an original survior with the scars over the years to prove it, then a fully restored car. In the past when I have been at classic car shows, I remember there were 2 '55 Coupe DeVille's next to each other (among my favorite years for Caddy) one was restored, one was original. The restored one looked..... well, restored. But the original one had the sun-cracked light lenses, slightly hazy chrome and some rock chips and a couple areas of lightly faded paint - and I just thought that was cool.

Kinda like those pictures of Gary's Impala (very nice, BTW) the little ding around the headlight trim, the faded black paint around the headlight grille etc...

Sorta like my BMW, while not a true classic (...yet ;-) ) shes got the battle scars from over the years. While there is more paint/body damage on her then would otherwise be acceptable for a car show, somehow it just really dosen't bother me, maybe because I bought her like that and just accepted that's the way it is, but I dunno. Seeing the various blemishes just adds to her character and is, overall what makes her *my* car. Maybe one day she'll get bodywork and a new paintjob done, but then I'd probably be worried about using her as a semi-daily driver.

Night Wolf
05-19-09, 09:17 PM
I made some progress on Noelle after work today... decided to stop for a bit and get pictures for the overall project, just finished uploading. Several candid - it's now been almost about 6 weeks? since shes been driven, and washed.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/BMW2/5-19-09/5-19-09002.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/BMW2/5-19-09/5-19-09042.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/BMW2/5-19-09/5-19-09044.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/BMW2/5-19-09/5-19-09007.jpg

Degreased the trans/underbody a bit. Both the selector shaft seal and output shaft seal are leaking, which in turn ate up the 2 trans mounts, so it'll all get replaced.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/BMW2/5-19-09/5-19-09008.jpg

Almost ready to drop the rear subframe, just gotta disconnect the parking brake cables then remove a couple more nuts/bolts...

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/BMW2/5-19-09/5-19-09055.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/BMW2/5-19-09/5-19-09047.jpg

I thought this was interesting. Just realized it today as I disconnected the front calipers and disconnected the rear brake lines, thus drained the brake fluid out. This is a little float that also triggers the brake fluid light on the dash. It's neat, the canister first goes in the reservoir, then the cap w/float screws in. The canister has a small hole in the bottom to allow the fluid to enter/leave it, while at the same time preventing quick fluctuations due to bumps etc... I thought that was neat. This is also both the clutch, and brake fluid reservoir. There are 2 sub chambers tho, such as right now, the brake side is empty yet there is still fluid in the clutch side. Neat thing about this? As the clutch wears, fluid will generally go back into the reservoir. As the brakes wear, the fluid level in the reservoir will go down as the pistons now are pushed further out, thus more fluid is stored within the system, this setup helps to sort of even out the fluid exchange.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/BMW2/5-19-09/5-19-09035.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/BMW2/5-19-09/5-19-09070.jpg

Parts storage:

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/BMW2/5-19-09/5-19-09064.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/BMW2/5-19-09/5-19-09057.jpg

(Mostly) E30 parts. 8'x8' shed is currently a dry place for parts storage. A real garage would be nice someday.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/BMW2/5-19-09/5-19-09072.jpg

The other two were feeling left out of the love...

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/BMW2/5-19-09/5-19-09012.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/BMW2/5-19-09/5-19-09024.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/BMW2/5-19-09/5-19-09018.jpg

I'm getting an itch to drive the BMW again... the only cure for that is to get the work done faster. I still need to order another round of parts, this time ~$1.5k, if not more (painful to think about), but I've got enough stuff to hold me over for a while.

Crazy thing is.... I'm enjoying it. This car is just like a classic/toy/overall cool car to me. It's like in the new fast and furious, when the old Charger was halfway apart in the garage, and Dom's sister was saying how Letty would work on it just about every day. Yeah, it's just a movie, but it is still the same feeling. Like today, I didn't get a whole lot done, but it was progress, just something I can do to pass the time and if I get tired of it, then just step away. A garage would be nice as right now I'm limited to mostly daytime and overall nice weather.

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
05-26-09, 12:21 PM
Tints, 15% on the rear windows. It looks a little blotchy and uneven now but once it dries it should look much better. The car is also filthy because I went out to my grandma's farm and it rained just enough to pull the dirt out of the air and leave it all over my car.


http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/100_7679.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/100_7680.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/100_7684.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/100_7683.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/100_7682.jpg

gdwriter
05-26-09, 04:18 PM
I had Sabrina's windows tinted last week, but no pictures yet. I want with the lightest tint all the way around; I still want to be able to see out, especially at night. I can already tell a difference on the solar heat rejection since I have the sun on my side going to and from work. I also wanted to protect the top of the back seat since sloping roofline exposes the top of the seat, unlike the formal roofline on Cruella.

I think GM may have downgraded the glass on newer Cadillacs. Cruella has E-Z Kool glass (I think this was new for 1991), and I didn't feel the sun on my drive home like I did in Sabrina, so I never thought tint was needed. I always had my windows tinted when I lived in Arizona; it's an absolute necessity there.

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
05-26-09, 05:46 PM
Mine look a lot darker than they actually are. Apparently 15% is the factory tint on SUVs so that is what I went with. I tinted the windows to keep the car cooler since it is my summer car. I also had it done so I don't have to mess with the mirror at night and so people behind me can't see in.

This also happened to me the other day, it hit 70k. :(


http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/IMG_0427.jpg

96Fleetwood
05-26-09, 06:07 PM
This also happened to me the other day, it hit 70k. :(

That is only ~3,700 miles/year :thumbsup:

Aron9000
05-27-09, 12:58 AM
Tints, 15% on the rear windows. It looks a little blotchy and uneven now but once it dries it should look much better. The car is also filthy because I went out to my grandma's farm and it rained just enough to pull the dirt out of the air and leave it all over my car.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn17/Saber2580/My%20Cars/1990%20Brougham/100_7680.jpg



My car is getting a rust bubble under the padded top in almost the exact same place, pass side c pillar, near the top of the rear window.

Tint really helps in the summer time, plus it makes the car just look nicer/more formal like a limo

I~LUV~Caddys8792
05-27-09, 06:48 PM
It's getting close...
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j313/Chadillac8705/Bianca/IMG_0611.jpg

gdwriter
05-31-09, 12:33 AM
Got some pictures today of Sabrina's tint. I really like the look and can tell the difference with the heat rejection.

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs020.snc1/4244_86385958093_776743093_1717462_376336_n.jpg

http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs020.snc1/4244_86385973093_776743093_1717463_159616_n.jpg

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs020.snc1/4244_86385953093_776743093_1717461_116738_n.jpg

I also washed Sabrina and hosed the accumulated dust and bird poop off of Cruella. Got a few shots of the fleet:

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs020.snc1/4244_86385948093_776743093_1717460_6495144_n.jpg

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http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs020.snc1/4244_86385933093_776743093_1717458_6973436_n.jpg

http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs020.snc1/4244_86385923093_776743093_1717457_7264673_n.jpg

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
05-31-09, 12:39 AM
Its amazing, even after all those miles and years Cruella still looks amazing. I would NEVER be able to find one like her around here, even with less than half the miles.

gdwriter
05-31-09, 01:02 AM
Its amazing, even after all those miles and years Cruella still looks amazing. I would NEVER be able to find one like her around here, even with less than half the miles.Thanks, John. She's got a lot of chips on the hood and the left rear quarter panel is faded, but she still shines up real nice. If my niece ends up getting the car and they both stay in Oregon, I'll be able to keep the car nice. I enjoy washing and detailing my cars; the end results are always a pleasure to see.

V-Eight
05-31-09, 01:37 AM
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/InoventionsEast/BMW2/5-19-09/5-19-09044.jpg



Awesome picture, the car looks angry. lol

I~LUV~Caddys8792
05-31-09, 02:37 AM
The tint looks great Gary! Not too dark, but enough so you know it's not stock.


My automotive present collides with my automotive future...
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j313/Chadillac8705/Porkys/IMG_4024.jpg

gary88
05-31-09, 01:49 PM
My automotive present with automotive past. :nostalgia:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/gheb88/IMG_2674.jpg

Blackout
05-31-09, 03:03 PM
Here's some of the FTS. I took a bunch of pics the other day but I didn't realize that my gf turned the quality setting down to it's second to lowest setting. The pics I took would have been a whole lot better with it set on 10 megapixel.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/FastSpecV/DSCN0954.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/FastSpecV/DSCN0956.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/FastSpecV/DSCN0957.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/FastSpecV/DSCN0958.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/FastSpecV/DSCN0968.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/FastSpecV/DSCN0969.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/FastSpecV/DSCN0969.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/FastSpecV/DSCN0994.jpg

ryannel2003
05-31-09, 03:37 PM
Just took these today:

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/ryannel2003/Cadillac%20Seville%20STS/IMG_0802.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/ryannel2003/Cadillac%20Seville%20STS/IMG_0803.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/ryannel2003/Cadillac%20Seville%20STS/IMG_0806.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/ryannel2003/Cadillac%20Seville%20STS/IMG_0807.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/ryannel2003/Cadillac%20Seville%20STS/IMG_0808.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/ryannel2003/Cadillac%20Seville%20STS/IMG_0809.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/ryannel2003/Cadillac%20Seville%20STS/IMG_0811.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/ryannel2003/Cadillac%20Seville%20STS/IMG_0812.jpg

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
05-31-09, 10:09 PM
Gary, I take it you bought the Beamer. I haven't been reading your other thread.

Rodya234
05-31-09, 10:16 PM
My automotive present with automotive past. :nostalgia:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/gheb88/IMG_2674.jpg

you take some amazing pictures my friend. :thumbsup:

mtflight
06-01-09, 06:48 PM
Just took these today:


http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/ryannel2003/Cadillac%20Seville%20STS/IMG_0806.jpg

Professional driver, closed course?



Or... seconds later...... as the truck driver was reaching for his cell phone on the floorboard....




http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h267/mtflight/bs/ryanel.jpg

mtflight
06-01-09, 06:51 PM
without a fancy camera, or gary88's talent.. here's my iPhone's rendition of "white lightning"

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h267/mtflight/dhs/IMG_0794.jpg

ryannel2003
06-01-09, 07:44 PM
Haha yeah the whole time I was thinking "Damn it would suck if someone came around that corner". Good job with the truck though... looks realistic. It was a small unused backroad though so it wasn't as major of a concern as a major highway would be.

gary88
06-22-09, 01:01 PM
I washed/clayed/waxed the bimmer this weekend.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/gheb88/IMG_3458.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/gheb88/IMG_3460.jpg

ga_etc
06-22-09, 02:06 PM
What kind of camera do you have Gary? Those pictures are great.

gary88
06-22-09, 02:16 PM
Thanks, I use a Canon 50D and a couple L-series lenses.

gdwriter
06-22-09, 03:44 PM
Bimmer looks great, Gary. I bought supplies to do the same with Betty this weekend to get ready for two car shows next month. Sabrina will get the same treatment before Chicago.

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
06-22-09, 03:46 PM
^ You'll have to wash her again when you get here. You saw the pictures of what my Brougham looked like after only about 5 hours of being on the road. The bugs will flock to you.

mtflight
06-22-09, 04:06 PM
Hey Gary, how far from the car were you? From the low degree of distortion, I'd say you went a distance and zoomed in a significant bit.

Get a profile shot! You could trace it and make one of those manufacturer drawings.

gary88
06-22-09, 05:49 PM
The first shot was at 165mm and the second at 200mm, so I was pretty far back. A lot of car shots are super wide, but I prefer the compressed telephoto look.

gdwriter
06-22-09, 06:02 PM
^ You'll have to wash her again when you get here. You saw the pictures of what my Brougham looked like after only about 5 hours of being on the road. The bugs will flock to you.Oh, I know. When driving to Des Moines in 2007, I was cleaning off Cruella's windshield at every gas stop and had a boatload of bug debris to clean off the front by the time I got there.

GizmoQ
06-23-09, 02:47 AM
^ You'll have to wash her again when you get here. You saw the pictures of what my Brougham looked like after only about 5 hours of being on the road. The bugs will flock to you.

I always do the wash/claybar/wax the week before and get another hand wash when I get to the city. STL to CHI is nothing like STL to New Orleans though. I killed so many full grown dragonflies on the bridge into NO my grill turned green. Dragonfly guts are acidic. :mad:

gdwriter
06-23-09, 03:15 AM
Years ago, I extended a business trip to Minneapolis to go see my sister's family in eastern North Dakota, about six hours away. I had a white Chevy Malibu as my rental car, and we took it to the International Peace Garden during my visit. By the time I got back to Minneapolis, the front of that poor Malibu was completely black. I told the attendant at the rental car return that they might have to sandblast it to get all the bug debris off.

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
06-23-09, 03:30 AM
I went to the peace gardens as well, many years ago when we went to visit the Air Force side of my family when they were in Minot, ND. It is a nice place.

eXile
06-23-09, 12:12 PM
Gary, at the meet you are taking pics of my car so I can have some show case pictures of my baby! :D

All my pictures look like utter trash compared to yours. Would you mind snapping a few for me at the meet?

LS1Mike
06-25-09, 12:49 AM
http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/4841266531.jpg?1245905148
Big Poo with my 5th wheel.

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
06-25-09, 01:30 AM
Holy hell dude, my aunt has the same camper! Does yours have bunks in the back? Hers has a full width bathroom in the back and a dining table right where the bunk windows are in yours. Also, the front of hers is bigger with a queen size bed up there. It sits towards the middle of the truck and the hitch does not extend out as far. Other than that, same camper, but its pulled by a crummy old Ford.

LS1Mike
06-25-09, 10:37 AM
Yep it has bunks in the back. Over the 5th wheel is a queen bed. That thing is 7000 LBS dry. It tows nice and easy behind my 1 ton (454, turbo 400 and 4.10 gears) Trailer is 25 feet of liveable space, it is actually about 28 feet long. The truck and the trailer come in at about 47 feet.
http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/4841266604.jpg?1245940514
The bathroom is behind the door with the mirror. It is sized just right.
http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/4841266605.jpg?1245940514
http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/4841266606.jpg?1245940515
The queen bed is behind he closed fan fold door.

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
06-25-09, 01:13 PM
Okay, hers is a different layout and is bigger. The couch sits lengthwise, has three cushions instead of tow and there is a nice large entryway. There is no divider wall between the front bed and the rest, it is just open. Right where your stairs are she has a very large storage cabinet with a large, built in stereo. She doesn't have kids so she only needed it for 2 people at the most, although the couch and the table become 1 person and 2 person beds, respectfully. There is a small shower in her bathroom as well. All the cabinets look exactly the same though.

Everyone in my family owns or used to own a camper. My grandparents have a 38' monster trailer with a slideout that goes out a full 5 feet, not the little 2 feet ones they have nowadays. That thing weighs almost 15k lbs dry and has a 100 gallon fresh water tank, a 75 gallon gray tank and a 25 gallon black tank. That thing is nice for long trips, its literally a home away from home.

LS1Mike
06-25-09, 01:50 PM
I like having the little seperate room...You know like a little love shanty.

WTF do your grandparents tow that monster with?

gothicaleigh
06-25-09, 02:41 PM
Here's a quick shot of the Maggie where it currently sits:

http://www.8thdaycreations.com/images/Maggie1.jpg

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
06-25-09, 05:01 PM
I like having the little seperate room...You know like a little love shanty.

WTF do your grandparents tow that monster with?

They used to tow it with a 1989 F-250 with a 7.3L International Harvester Diesel. That thing was powerful but slow. In first gear you could pop the clutch with the engine at about 2000 rpm and it would bring the front tires off the ground, no lies. However, it couldn't pull the damn thing up a hill at more than 30 mph to save its life. He used to play a game where about 1 mile from a large hill he would floor it. We would hit the hill doing 85 or so and by the top we would be down to 40.

A few years ago my grandpa finally put a dent in their retirement fund and ponied up for a new truck, a 2002 Chevy 2500 with a Duramax, loaded to the hilt. My grandfather had cancer so they haven't used the trailer in about 5 years because he was always feeling ill from the chemo. It just sat in the pole barn. He passed away back in January so now we are trying to sell it, but as you can imagine there are few takers. I have convinced my grandmother to keep the truck for now because I use it to haul stuff around, mainly other cars or tractors because there is a flatbed trailer out there as well and the truck can pull a car like there is nothing behind it. That sucker even outran a friend's '02 Impala from 20 to about 125.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
06-26-09, 07:44 AM
They used to tow it with a 1989 F-250 with a 7.3L International Harvester Diesel. That thing was powerful but slow.

The 7.3 (or as they call it on the commercial side, the 444) is a tank. SO much better than that piece of garbage 6.0 Powerstroke they used from '03 to '06.5. The 7.3 in the '89s were not turbocharged, which is probably why it feels so slow. They're rated at 180hp and 345 lb/ft of torque. According to the book I have, they didn't acquire the turbocharger until 1994, then direct injection in 1994.5.


http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/4841266531.jpg?1245905148
Big Poo with my 5th wheel.


In 1989, was the 454 used in the 2500s and 3500s TBI or still 4bbl? I wanna say that the 454 went to TBI in '87 or '88, but I'm not positive on that. Either way, what a beast! I drove a '95 Sierra K2500 with the 454 TBI last year and was thoroughly impressed with that engine. So. Much. Torque....! It would spin the inside rear tire (3.73:1 open rear end) like it was nobody's business at the drop of a hat.

I like the brown/tan color combo you've got there Mike...it's very '80s. :lol:
Does it have the tan cloth interior with the low back split bench seat?

LS1Mike
06-26-09, 03:21 PM
The 7.3 (or as they call it on the commercial side, the 444) is a tank. SO much better than that piece of garbage 6.0 Powerstroke they used from '03 to '06.5. The 7.3 in the '89s were not turbocharged, which is probably why it feels so slow. They're rated at 180hp and 345 lb/ft of torque. According to the book I have, they didn't acquire the turbocharger until 1994, then direct injection in 1994.5.




In 1989, was the 454 used in the 2500s and 3500s TBI or still 4bbl? I wanna say that the 454 went to TBI in '87 or '88, but I'm not positive on that. Either way, what a beast! I drove a '95 Sierra K2500 with the 454 TBI last year and was thoroughly impressed with that engine. So. Much. Torque....! It would spin the inside rear tire (3.73:1 open rear end) like it was nobody's business at the drop of a hat.

I like the brown/tan color combo you've got there Mike...it's very '80s. :lol:
Does it have the tan cloth interior with the low back split bench seat?

That is the interior exactly. 88 Went TBI, Dually's kept the old body style.
87 SBC had TBIs in them. 454 went in 88.
My truck has 4.10 gears and a non lock up converter. I was made to do one thing....Tow. I get 8 MPG no matter what. Towing 8 Mpg. Cruising 8 mpg,
Dropped out of an airplane at 40,000 feet, not running...8 Mpg.

V-Eight
06-26-09, 04:26 PM
They used to tow it with a 1989 F-250 with a 7.3L International Harvester Diesel. That thing was powerful but slow. In first gear you could pop the clutch with the engine at about 2000 rpm and it would bring the front tires off the ground, no lies. However, it couldn't pull the damn thing up a hill at more than 30 mph to save its life. He used to play a game where about 1 mile from a large hill he would floor it. We would hit the hill doing 85 or so and by the top we would be down to 40.

A few years ago my grandpa finally put a dent in their retirement fund and ponied up for a new truck, a 2002 Chevy 2500 with a Duramax, loaded to the hilt. My grandfather had cancer so they haven't used the trailer in about 5 years because he was always feeling ill from the chemo. It just sat in the pole barn. He passed away back in January so now we are trying to sell it, but as you can imagine there are few takers. I have convinced my grandmother to keep the truck for now because I use it to haul stuff around, mainly other cars or tractors because there is a flatbed trailer out there as well and the truck can pull a car like there is nothing behind it. That sucker even outran a friend's '02 Impala from 20 to about 125.

I'm looking for a Duramax..........


That is the interior exactly. 88 Went TBI, Dually's kept the old body style.
87 SBC had TBIs in them. 454 went in 88.
My truck has 4.10 gears and a non lock up converter. I was made to do one thing....Tow. I get 8 MPG no matter what. Towing 8 Mpg. Cruising 8 mpg,
Dropped out of an airplane at 40,000 feet, not running...8 Mpg.

What is the redline on the 454?

I~LUV~Caddys8792
06-26-09, 04:58 PM
If I remember correctly, on the TBI's, it's between 4200 and 4500.

V-Eight
06-26-09, 06:59 PM
On my 350 its 4000

I~LUV~Caddys8792
06-26-09, 07:08 PM
I love the old 6.5 liter. 3500rpm!

V-Eight
06-26-09, 07:10 PM
Haha. I thought big blocks were able to rev higher than small blocks, is this incorrect?

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
06-26-09, 08:36 PM
Wrong. Small blocks have less rotational mass so you can crank them up to 9k like they do in Nascar. However, the low redlines are also due to the way Americans build V8 engines. Most American V8s are more torque than horsepower, so they get all their power when running at low RPMs. My old '95 DeVille with the 4.9 used to cruise at 1800-2000 rpm at 65-70 mph, depending on wind and hills. However, most foreign cars will run between 2500-3500 at the same speed.

LS1Mike
06-26-09, 09:43 PM
There are lots of ways to get Revs out of BB and SB.
1/4 cars are real good at it. Take for example my LS1. I went from 6000 rpm to 7000 rpm with an upgraded valve train. I don't go over 6500 due to the bolts used for the bearing caps, I could upgrade those but it is not necessary at my power level.

A bb block dosen't need to rev. I believe the stroke on my BB is 4 inches, good for torque. The Stroke on an LS1 is 3.9 inches. Stroke has some stuff do with it as well.
My understanding is the longer the rod the less RPM, in some cases.

V-Eight
06-27-09, 12:51 AM
Wrong. Small blocks have less rotational mass so you can crank them up to 9k like they do in Nascar. However, the low redlines are also due to the way Americans build V8 engines. Most American V8s are more torque than horsepower, so they get all their power when running at low RPMs. My old '95 DeVille with the 4.9 used to cruise at 1800-2000 rpm at 65-70 mph, depending on wind and hills. However, most foreign cars will run between 2500-3500 at the same speed.

Because their pushrod which can't handle the higher RPMS right?


There are lots of ways to get Revs out of BB and SB.
1/4 cars are real good at it. Take for example my LS1. I went from 6000 rpm to 7000 rpm with an upgraded valve train. I don't go over 6500 due to the bolts used for the bearing caps, I could upgrade those but it is not necessary at my power level.

A bb block dosen't need to rev. I believe the stroke on my BB is 4 inches, good for torque. The Stroke on an LS1 is 3.9 inches. Stroke has some stuff do with it as well.
My understanding is the longer the rod the less RPM, in some cases.

Yeah, I just heard somewhere that big-blocks could get up to 9k.....

Probably just heavily modded. Also, how is redline determined, it it a certain % of the max?

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
06-27-09, 02:25 AM
Because their pushrod which can't handle the higher RPMS right?

I believe Nascar still uses pushrod motors, but I am not sure. I know they still use carburetors. Like Mike said, its more how the engine is designed. Most big blocks are designed for torque, so they have a relatively short throw with larger bores and pistons. A shorter throw provides much more torque than a long throw. Its some weird physics thing I learned about in an engines class last year, but I forgot.

Sevillian273
06-27-09, 02:40 AM
A shorter throw provides much more torque than a long throw.

Youve got it switched. Longer stroke = more torque. Take the 4.5 and 4.9 for example. Both have the same bore but the 4.9 has a longer stroke which yeilds 30lb/ft more torque than the shorter stroked 4.5. A shorter stroke generally raises the engines redline also. F1 cars can reach 15,000rpm or higher due to an extremely short stroke. (2-3 inches)

Aron9000
06-27-09, 02:46 AM
Nascar still uses pushrod V8's with carbs. They are anything but antiquated though, teams spend millions of dollars in R&D looking for that one extra horsepower. I'd say Nascar along with the NHRA is on the leading edge of V8 technology. I like how the technology in those series is still relevant to the BBC/Hemi/LS1 under the hood of your muscle car, unlike Formula 1 V8's.

V-Eight
06-27-09, 12:08 PM
. A shorter stroke generally raises the engines redline also. F1 cars can reach 15,000rpm or higher due to an extremely short stroke. (2-3 inches)

Do they just have a bigger bore then?

Rodya234
06-27-09, 02:34 PM
Pushrods can rev *ridiculously* high if you've got a good engine. The 302 in my dad's Z/28 was a pushrod, and it didn't even make max power until 8800rpm. The only reason they use DOHC engines in high-reving applications now is because they have less moving parts, which makes for a lesser probability of error at high rpms.

Take this as an example: One time when my dad was driving he missed a shift and watched 9k fly past on the tach. He sent a pushrod straight up through the intake manifold and out the hood. :bighead:

Now with a DOHC engine, that wouldn't happen because there would be no pushrods to let fly. So I suppose that DOHC is a more reliable application for high-reving engines, but OHV can be just as good at the job, as we see in nascar.

Sevillian273
06-27-09, 05:34 PM
One time when my dad was driving he missed a shift and watched 9k fly past on the tach. He sent a pushrod straight up through the intake manifold and out the hood. :bighead:



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