: EGR Removal / Steel fuel rails



mythy
11-17-08, 09:43 PM
I read the tips section I noticed Rangers comment on the fuel system recall involving newer steel fuel rails. My question is how do I remove the bracket without fear of combustion? I really don't want to get that bracket hot by using a saw or a grinder to remove it out of my way... Has any one figured out how to get the EGR off when theres steel fuel rails?

(I'm afraid to use more force to bend the rails)


I got a CEL involving the EGR valve and performance but then it went to history I still want to clean it since my idle is off and I can't stand the thought of losing performance !

Ranger
11-17-08, 10:05 PM
I remember that the old nylon rail had a ground wire up by the P/S pump that they just cut and left connected to make the conversion faster. That leads me to believe that the rail is grounded, but don't quote me on that. If you do cut it and have a starting problem after wards, then that is what I would suspect and you'll have to find another way to ground it. It should not be too hard to lift the rail. Just a couple of hold down and lift it in on piece with the injectors still attached.

mythy
11-17-08, 10:16 PM
I lifted like mad but I had to stop I feared I'd break some thing... What exactly does the rails attach to? I have the 2 steel and the nylon is still there and still grounded to the P/S pump as well :suspect: I find it odd they left the old rail in the bay like that... Unless that isnt what it is?!? It has a Fuel warning sticker on it...

Ranger
11-17-08, 10:31 PM
Boy, that is confusing. I can't imagine that they'd leave the old rail there, but stranger things have happened. If it is grounded to the P/S pump then it sounds like they did. Can you post a picture?

I think the rail is mounted on the beauty cover mounting studs. Just follow the rail and you should see hold downs somewhere.

mythy
11-17-08, 10:38 PM
The metal rails that I cant bend up runs under the intake plenum Theres literally no play in them I cant even move them up a quarter inch! :mad2: I need a inch of play upward and I'll post a pic in the morning of the other line with the nylon braiding on it and the fuel warning

Ranger
11-17-08, 10:42 PM
Under the intake? They should run down each side of the intake like a big "U".

mythy
11-17-08, 10:46 PM
nope the 2 metal lines have a mounting plate that hooks to the EGR bolt, then they continue under the plastic plenum and there damn solid there has to be some serious mounting under there I tried to pry them up with a screwdriver and I had to stop I was getting concerned some thing would break.

Ranger
11-17-08, 10:55 PM
Hmm, I'd have to see it. I'm trying to remember what my '97 looked like and I don't recall what you are describing, but as they say, the memory is the second thing to go.

mythy
11-17-08, 11:31 PM
My mistake they hook onto the rails I can see why I have no play :crying2:



I marked the 3 lines

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