: New Guy 68 Caddy with Air Bags



cohare
10-17-08, 02:53 PM
Hello all. I just wanted to introduce myself. I was looking for something interesting and I came across this while I was in LA and had it shipped it back to Baltimore. Its a 68 So cal car, solid body and mechanicals it has an airbag suspension powered by nitrogen and it is in primer black. I have big plans for it mostly the interior needs to be completely redone but I have already installed a proper stereo. Are there many 60's cars on this forum?

Anyone know any GOOD shops in Baltimore that can handle any mechanical problems I may have?

Thanks!

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t129/tradeya89/Caddy.jpg

greencadillacmatt
10-17-08, 03:21 PM
Welcome to the forums. Nice Caddy! Everyone around here likes to help, so I'm sure others will be with you shortly.

cohare
10-17-08, 03:37 PM
Thanks I am really excited about this project! I am sure I will need help along the way. I am ordering my seat material today!

Aron9000
10-17-08, 10:07 PM
Nice cadillac, they used those same side mirrors on my 91 Brougham as well, no need to change it I guess . . . .

cohare
10-20-08, 10:05 AM
I guess I will turn this into a progress thread. I am working on changing the interior over to black. I had all black original door panels I installed this weekend, along with some pics of the stereo and air set up. I have a black dash and wheel that is next if I can figure it all out. also have black carpeting and custom black and white seats coming.

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t129/tradeya89/Caddy/IMG_0472.jpg
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t129/tradeya89/Caddy/IMG_0474.jpg
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t129/tradeya89/Caddy/IMG_0473.jpg

Stereo
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t129/tradeya89/Caddy/IMG_0475.jpg
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t129/tradeya89/Caddy/IMG_0470.jpg

Two optimas to keep up with the stereo:
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t129/tradeya89/Caddy/IMG_0477.jpg

Air set up
3/4" front valves and nitro!
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t129/tradeya89/Caddy/IMG_0479.jpg
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t129/tradeya89/Caddy/IMG_0469.jpg

MT-ED
10-20-08, 09:50 PM
Nice, nice car. I love the look of this vintage. How come the bags work off Nitrogen? Why not a conventional compressor setup? I bet it's quick acting though.

This guy turned up at Scape By The Lake in 2007. The car had an engine driven air compressor.

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u88/Martin_Thoene/Scrape24_opt.jpg

A beautiful example of why Lowriders look better on 15's.

Martin.

cohare
10-21-08, 09:49 AM
Thanks for the compliments.

First off, I bought the car with the nitrogen set up but, I have owned a car with bags and an eletric compressor and that is what my brother has on his 71 ol's. The compressor is a pain in the arse esp when you are talking about bags this size. You may get one up and down before you have to wait for the compressor to fill the tank. You really need 2 compressors and a 5 gallon tank and that still takes a couple minutes. Also those compressors dont really go above 180psi or so, you can crank this up to 250 if you wanted (i would not recommend, I run 180 max) and literally hop the car off the ground. After I told my brother about this, he converted to a dual set up but hasnt used the compressor since.

Since I dont drive this car everyday the air would gradually leak out and I would have to wait 5 minutes everytime I drove it again for it to fill up. Plus the noise is quite loud and annoying. Not to mention you save on the cost of 2 compressors (which I am sure I will make up with by filling the nitrogen tanks enough times). This may be different on an engine driven compressor.

So the short version is that you can play with it for an hour up and down and still have plenty of air left to ride around, its cheaper to start and more powerful if you want to hop it. The inconvenience is going to refill the air but, its pretty easy and you are set to ride for sometime before going back. Just dont leave the bottle on!

Car above is nice, I am not really going for the low rider look, more of a so cal, nostalgic look with the flat black, white walls (bias ply of course) and 50's hupcaps. That car does tell me I need to get out and polish my chrome!

JTraik
10-22-08, 04:41 PM
Did you make that CD player bracket under the dash? I need something just like that... discrete.

cohare
10-22-08, 05:34 PM
I did not make it, it was there but its a nice place for it. Its not much more than a black plastic box under there. If you do I highly suggest a remote:)

MT-ED
10-22-08, 09:56 PM
Yeah, I really like the caps and wide whites on your car. The one I pictured was actually satin black. It just looks shinier in the picture. These cars look good in several styles IMO.

Martin.

SLOWnSTEADY
10-22-08, 11:03 PM
I have a '66 Calais, i will be posting stuff up sooner or later...

I am curious about your air suspension, do you know anything about it? such as what bags, pumps, valves, etc...? Hoping to put mine on air when i get back from basic training in May/June

cohare
10-23-08, 11:05 AM
I know a fair amount about the air set up. Its rather simple - all you need is the bags which a good place will tell you what kind you need to lift the car, they will be rather large, like 8inches in diameter. Then you need a tank, I suggest a 5 gallon, compressor if you are doing air vs. nitrogen, and 4 valves. Any good supply place online will have everything you need. I suggest doing at least 1/2" lines for speed (I have 3/4 on the front) and the valves to match the diameter. Keep in mind the smallest diameter anywhere in the system will be the limit of how fast the bags are. So if you do 3/4 lines to a 1/2 valve it will only act as a 1/2.

There are places that have a full integrated system, bags, tank, valves, compressor all in one and its mostly plug and play. Let me know if you have questions I can certainly walk you through it.

cohare
10-23-08, 11:33 AM
Here is a couple pics of my brothers set up in is 71 olds. The black box is the plug and play kit he got. its got all the valves and whatnot in it. He also hooked up nitrogen in additon to the kit.

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee267/sfohare/BalloTron/IMG_0323.jpg
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee267/sfohare/BalloTron/IMG_0326.jpg
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee267/sfohare/BalloTron/IMG_0008.jpg

cohare
10-27-08, 09:00 PM
I got my seat material in today!!! I just had time to do the back bottom cushion. I still have a little stretching to do but here is a little preview! Its black velour with white vinyl, it will look better when its in the car of course

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t129/tradeya89/Caddy/Photo_101.jpg

MT-ED
10-28-08, 06:27 PM
Ooh, it's going to look very sharp :thumbsup:

Martin.

cohare
10-28-08, 08:18 PM
Thanks, I am really excited about it!

Destroyer
10-28-08, 11:54 PM
That is a sweet look for that car!. Not show ready, not extravagant.........just plain COOL!. Good luck with it!.:yup:

greencadillacmatt
10-30-08, 04:19 AM
Do you know what kind of paint was used on the car? There is a '71 DeVille I'm looking at that needs a paint job, and I like that color. Always been a big fan of flat black. Thanks!:thumbsup:

cohare
10-30-08, 04:59 PM
It is just primer. I need to get it in paint but, all in time... I would suggest a matte black vs. a flat. Flat tends to look too much like charcoal rather than black. I was thinking either clean this up and clear over it, or do a 1 stage blitz black. Not shine and its easier than 2 stage paints. Its acuatlly like what they use on John deeres..