: Just bought this '89 brougham d'elegance



ocmdiaz714
09-19-08, 11:02 PM
Here are some more pictures of the Brougham I just got. I just need to SMOG to finalize the registration. I was thinking about getting airbags but don't want to mess up that O.G. look what do you guys think. And what low profile system of you think would look nice and have great bass, build up a list for me if any of you can and any ideas on what paint to get. I got that Cadillac hood emblem but it isn't up since it was broken in snow. It's my first car so I wouldn't know much about restoration. I got it for $900 with 77k original miles. Where you guys think I should start?

http://i33.tinypic.com/2n9cpjo.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/2vni6f4.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/20fq3jp.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/25zp6hu.jpg

pompste
09-19-08, 11:08 PM
Welcome to the best Cadillac owners forum on the planet! Great looking Caddy!
Post some more pics---so we can get a better overall look at your ride.It looks damn good to me the way it is--other than the missing hood ornament.

ocmdiaz714
09-19-08, 11:14 PM
Welcome to the best Cadillac owners forum on the planet! Great looking Caddy!
Post some more pics---so we can get a better overall look at your ride.It looks damn good to me the way it is--other than the missing hood ornament.

I took these today and will take some new ones tomorrow kinda hard to take them with the only camera I have is my iphone ha but Ill get some from the interior and all. Yeah I don't like the hood ornament missing neither but will be buying a new one on my next paycheck lol.

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
09-20-08, 12:36 AM
With a little time you can easily make a great sound system with the factory radio. Replace the speakers first. The original GM ones are crappy paper cones and are complete garbage. All I have done to my car is replace the factory speakers with new, composite ones. I have Sony 3-way 6x9 (factory size) in the rear deck and some Pioneer 4x6 (also factory size) with some bass blockers in the front and it sounds just as good as a complete system, no subwoofer needed. The speakers cost me about $160 total (did the labor myself). You can easily wire in an FM Modulator to run an Ipod or other mp3 player into the factory head unit.

Very nice car by the way and an excellent price. Whatever you do, please do not rape that car with airbags, hydraulics or any ungodly large rims. The one thing I may suggest is a new paint job. A dark blue similar to the Diplomat Blue used on the 90-92 Broughams would look great with that white top, as long as it isn't candy paint. :)

ocmdiaz714
09-20-08, 01:07 AM
With a little time you can easily make a great sound system with the factory radio. Replace the speakers first. The original GM ones are crappy paper cones and are complete garbage. All I have done to my car is replace the factory speakers with new, composite ones. I have Sony 3-way 6x9 (factory size) in the rear deck and some Pioneer 4x6 (also factory size) with some bass blockers in the front and it sounds just as good as a complete system, no subwoofer needed. The speakers cost me about $160 total (did the labor myself). You can easily wire in an FM Modulator to run an Ipod or other mp3 player into the factory head unit.

Very nice car by the way and an excellent price. Whatever you do, please do not rape that car with airbags, hydraulics or any ungodly large rims. The one thing I may suggest is a new paint job. A dark blue similar to the Diplomat Blue used on the 90-92 Broughams would look great with that white top, as long as it isn't candy paint. :)

I actually want a darker shade of blue or perhaps gray yet haven't come up with that yet. I thought of airbags as I like that unique low long body style but not sure I have much in the budget lol. I am interested though in 14" or 15" spoke rims I saw on ebay, check them out.

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z260/Jcustoms510/Chrome%20Wire%20Wheels/14-Rev-2-5.jpg

Also, I know I'm asking for much but is there any way you could make up a little item list to make a good system. Thanks for the feedback. Also, I was looking around ebay and found these two, you think they're any good? Do I just take them over to a mechanic and have them do the labor and like that I have the HD radio? I know I'm asking a whole lot but don't really know anything about it, and around how much should I expect to pay for labor. Thanks.

SONY XPLOD CDX-GT520 plus the Sony XT-100HD HD Tuner

http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/23059878/aview/245550_Picture_002.jpg

http://www.admintrix.com/items/Big/SON9-CDXGT520.jpg

I~LUV~Caddys8792
09-20-08, 10:04 AM
I LOVE that color, what do they call it?

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
09-20-08, 02:13 PM
You can try that radio if you like. As I said though, do the speakers first, whether you keep the factory radio or not. What is the point of having an expensive head unit if the components that actually make the sound are still 20 years old? Personally, I am against aftermarket head units. The factory ones are usually just as good for powering speakers. The only reason you need an after market one is if you plan to add subs or more speakers than what came factory. GM also uses what are called din and a half radios. The head unit is actually 1.5 times as tall as a standard radio. This means that after market ones are rather hard to get a good fit and they rarely look good because there are giant black areas around the radio. Plus, no after market system comes with wooden radio knobs. :)

As for the rims I say try to find a pair of factory caddy ones. They look very sharp and they do not overdo it with too many spokes. Here are some pictures of the factory wire wheels that brougham_geezer just put on his car.




http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j82/jn_parisienne/DSC03452.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j82/jn_parisienne/DSC03515.jpg

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Here is a good example of the color for the car that I was talking about. Its called Diplomat Blue.



http://www.avonhill.com/thumbnails/sedan_domestic/1990_Cadillac_Fleetwood.jpeg

My_favorite_Brougham
09-20-08, 06:17 PM
Here's another pic of a "Diplomat Blue" Cadillac. And are you sure you're car is an '89? The driver door panel looks to be different, and it's the pre-89 style. (1989 door had a plastic wood insert between the door-pull and the switch assembly, unlike yours which is felt.)

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x141/Shutterbug668/92cad/dElegance-0321.jpg

Lord Cadillac
09-20-08, 06:35 PM
Here are some more pictures of the Brougham I just got. I just need to SMOG to finalize the registration. I was thinking about getting airbags but don't want to mess up that O.G. look what do you guys think. And what low profile system of you think would look nice and have great bass, build up a list for me if any of you can and any ideas on what paint to get. I got that Cadillac hood emblem but it isn't up since it was broken in snow. It's my first car so I wouldn't know much about restoration. I got it for $900 with 77k original miles. Where you guys think I should start?

http://i33.tinypic.com/2n9cpjo.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/2vni6f4.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/20fq3jp.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/25zp6hu.jpg
Welcome aboard! Thank you for signing up.. That Brougham is in great shape!

ocmdiaz714
09-20-08, 10:15 PM
Here's another pic of a "Diplomat Blue" Cadillac. And are you sure you're car is an '89? The driver door panel looks to be different, and it's the pre-89 style. (1989 door had a plastic wood insert between the door-pull and the switch assembly, unlike yours which is felt.)

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x141/Shutterbug668/92cad/dElegance-0321.jpg

Sorry, I was told by the owner it wan 1989. Yet the registration shows it's an '87. :banghead::D

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
09-21-08, 12:16 AM
The grill looks right for a late 80's car though. Its got the same pattern as my Fleet, those ugly small squares. :)

I~LUV~Caddys8792
09-21-08, 02:07 PM
1987 & 88 have those little squares, 1989 has a revised design.

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
09-21-08, 04:27 PM
1987 & 88 have those little squares, 1989 has a revised design.

Yeah, and they are ugly as hell. I like the thin, vertical slats much better.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
09-21-08, 08:32 PM
1987 is my favorite year of the late '80s Broughams. Maybe because it's when I was born? I like the small boxes the most actually, but I think that the small boxes wouldn't have worked well with the post '90 facelift, and the thin, vertical slates are a much more "Cadillac" look.

ocmdiaz714
09-23-08, 02:26 AM
Came up with this system

http://i35.tinypic.com/qyiqli.jpg

jayoldschool
09-23-08, 09:16 AM
Yeah, and they are ugly as hell. I like the thin, vertical slats much better.

It's funny, I think the little squares look the best (and it's not just because they are on my 81!). Here's my reason: Cadillac grille styling since the 40s has been based on the square "egg crate" style. The small squares on the 80s cars mirrors that well.

ocmdiaz714, those components that you have posted will work nicely! I like those 4x6 plate components. You are going to use the amp bridged to mono for the sub, correct? What head unit are you going with?

Oh, as for wheels... if you can't afford the factory wires, Chinas like the ones you posted will look cool, too (and are dirt cheap). Most of us around here (me included) are pretty hung up on that "factory" look, but I don't have a problem with cars that are modded tastefully.

ocmdiaz714
09-23-08, 01:55 PM
It's funny, I think the little squares look the best (and it's not just because they are on my 81!). Here's my reason: Cadillac grille styling since the 40s has been based on the square "egg crate" style. The small squares on the 80s cars mirrors that well.

ocmdiaz714, those components that you have posted will work nicely! I like those 4x6 plate components. You are going to use the amp bridged to mono for the sub, correct? What head unit are you going with?

Oh, as for wheels... if you can't afford the factory wires, Chinas like the ones you posted will look cool, too (and are dirt cheap). Most of us around here (me included) are pretty hung up on that "factory" look, but I don't have a problem with cars that are modded tastefully.

http://www.admintrix.com/items/Big/SON9-CDXGT520.jpg

With an HD tuner. Honestly I don't know much about systems so I'm going to buy the speakers have them installed first; and I will later buy the rest and have all installed by the mechanic. Does that sound good? Where would I be able to buy these factory wheels, do you happen to know? Thanks! :D

jayoldschool
09-23-08, 02:57 PM
Here are the wheels. $999 buy it now.

Cadillac Wire Wheels (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cadillac-1977-96-Chrome-Wire-Spoke-Wheels-New-Set-of-4_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ39Q3a1Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65 Q3a10Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhash Zitem190254033964QQitemZ190254033964)

Consider a 1.5 DIN head unit. It will do two things for you. One, it won't stick out of the dash about an inch like that one (and all other 1.0 DIN heads), and it will fill the entire opening. I use the Pioneer DEH-P77DH in my 95SS, and it is great. I have it hooked up to a 12 disc changer, and it will control an Ipod as well (with the right adapter):

http://salestores.com/stores/images/images_747/DEHP77DH.jpg

ocmdiaz714
09-23-08, 04:42 PM
Here are the wheels. $999 buy it now.

Cadillac Wire Wheels (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cadillac-1977-96-Chrome-Wire-Spoke-Wheels-New-Set-of-4_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ39Q3a1Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65 Q3a10Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhash Zitem190254033964QQitemZ190254033964)

Consider a 1.5 DIN head unit. It will do two things for you. One, it won't stick out of the dash about an inch like that one (and all other 1.0 DIN heads), and it will fill the entire opening. I use the Pioneer DEH-P77DH in my 95SS, and it is great. I have it hooked up to a 12 disc changer, and it will control an Ipod as well (with the right adapter):

http://salestores.com/stores/images/images_747/DEHP77DH.jpg

Considering the fact I'm low on cash I'll just bookmark them tires ;)
I want this sony head unit for the HD radio and based on the custom reviews but I'll check out the bigger units on ebay. Thanks! :thumbsup:

Aron9000
09-24-08, 02:30 AM
Here are the wheels. $999 buy it now.

Cadillac Wire Wheels (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cadillac-1977-96-Chrome-Wire-Spoke-Wheels-New-Set-of-4_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ39Q3a1Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65 Q3a10Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhash Zitem190254033964QQitemZ190254033964)

Consider a 1.5 DIN head unit. It will do two things for you. One, it won't stick out of the dash about an inch like that one (and all other 1.0 DIN heads), and it will fill the entire opening. I use the Pioneer DEH-P77DH in my 95SS, and it is great. I have it hooked up to a 12 disc changer, and it will control an Ipod as well (with the right adapter):

http://salestores.com/stores/images/images_747/DEHP77DH.jpg

I actually ordered that unit for my 91 Brougham, it didn't fit. Too wide. The 90-92 cars use a 2 DIN opening, but it might be different for the OP's 87, since the dash was changed in 90. Lesson here is to measure before buying.

ocmdiaz714
09-24-08, 07:33 PM
how much should I expect to pay on a paintiob of the same color?

dirt_cheap_fleetwood
09-24-08, 11:21 PM
Paint jobs are very hard to estimate. It can depend on a variety of things and how you want the finished product to look. To have it done right they must remove all the trim and badging, clean it very well, and then primer and paint. I know a guy with a $9000 paint job on his Firebird and it looks freakin' AMAZING! On the other hand, the previous owner of my friend's Camaro got a $500 paint job about 3 years ago and it is already chipping off in places, mainly on the plastic body panels. You can also easily see that they did not remove the IROC-Z decal on the side, but instead covered it and painted around it. Moral is, you get what you pay for.

ocmdiaz714
09-25-08, 04:13 PM
Dam that's a lot. I guess I'll have to stick with this paint and save up for a while. :crying:

ocmdiaz714
10-04-08, 01:35 AM
any more suggestions