: MSRP ? why the big secret?



vperl
09-18-08, 02:10 PM
I am sure there is a greeat reason why the MSRp on the V has not been released by GM. I have my suspisions, but not wanting to mention them maybe best. Does anyone have an EDUCATED reason or guess ?

Cadillac Tony
09-18-08, 02:13 PM
The option package configuration has changed three times in the last month, and there are also a few pre-production cars running around with wood trim (which is currently not shown as an option).

My educated guess would be that they're still finalizing how the options will be packaged and priced.

parttimer
09-18-08, 02:20 PM
What about all them people that ordered one? What happens to their packages!

lawfive
09-18-08, 02:41 PM
What about all them people that ordered one? What happens to their packages!
:thehand: Not a proper discussion topic for this forum. :rolleyes:

Cadillac Tony
09-18-08, 02:44 PM
:lol:

The items available as options have not changed- just the way they're grouped. Originally, there was a "Performance Collection" that included the Nav, Suede wheel and shifter, polished wheels and Recaros. Those options are still there, but they're separate "free flow" options now (including the suede, which used to be only available with the collection).

If your Dealer has ordered you one with the options you want, you'll get exactly what you ordered.

dqw1
09-18-08, 03:06 PM
My locally delaership is showing on their web page that you can build your car but the only thing missing is color choices and of course, prices. I was able to get a real good idea of what the standard equipment is. It won't take many added options to get what you want since the base model will be pretty good.

lusterblade
09-18-08, 03:07 PM
Maybe they're trying to gauge the market on how much Coupe-Vs or Wagon-Vs they can sell to distribute the costs. Also what other programs could use the powertrains and suspensions such as z28, gxp, etc. That way its a potentially lower price for the consumer but without hurting GM's bottomline.

Florian
09-18-08, 07:35 PM
What about all them people that ordered one? What happens to their packages!

Jerry beat me to it.....too funny :histeric: :histeric:


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jerrycecco
09-18-08, 08:40 PM
Why is GM stalling, easy...they dont know what they're doing....
We are know the 2009 V stats are amazing (hopefully everthing we have seen/read is true)
But the marketplace is changing, there's now ALOT of sub 5 sec sedans on the market...
Price it at $75k or more, most will pass, price it at $60k dealers will marku to $75k++ and we'll pass...
Personally, I'll look at the car 2yrs from now at 40% less..... I did with my 2004 CTS-V.
BMW, Audi, and others will then release their V killers.... and on it goes....
GM should be careful with this car, IE Ford's 2007 GT500 stickered @ $46k and dealers makring them to $75k+
now you can buy a GT500 for under sticker.....

vperl
09-18-08, 09:43 PM
Why is GM stalling, easy...they dont know what they're doing....
We are know the 2009 V stats are amazing (hopefully everthing we have seen/read is true)
But the marketplace is changing, there's now ALOT of sub 5 sec sedans on the market...
Price it at $75k or more, most will pass, price it at $60k dealers will marku to $75k++ and we'll pass...
Personally, I'll look at the car 2yrs from now at 40% less..... I did with my 2004 CTS-V.
BMW, Audi, and others will then release their V killers.... and on it goes....
GM should be careful with this car, IE Ford's 2007 GT500 stickered @ $46k and dealers makring them to $75k+
now you can buy a GT500 for under sticker.....



__________________________________________________ ______

Exactly, as I have tried to say.. The HYPE from those that have vested interest in big sticker, not the CONSUMER, the guy that BUYS,the vehicle...
With actual money... I love America.... Free Speech is a wonnderful thing.

caddiedrummer
09-18-08, 10:47 PM
I hope they don't make the mistake they made on the XLR-V. Folks paid over $100,000 for the first ones then they sat on lots.

Late in the first year I bought a new one for $77,000 and the dealer was thrilled to sell it since he had 3 more sitting. If GM gets big eyes on this car, I will back off, keep my M5 and let others take the hit.

v84life
09-19-08, 12:32 AM
Talked with my dealer today and his best guess is pricing in Oct. When they start building them... Just like there expirence with the Escalade hybrid the most current new offering. They didn't get pricing till they were in production....

GM is holding as long as possible for this one. They must get it right......65k out the door nicely equipped.....:2thumbs:

CIWS
09-19-08, 08:44 AM
Price it at $75k or more, most will pass, price it at $60k dealers will marku to $75k++ and we'll pass...

GM should be careful with this car, IE Ford's 2007 GT500 stickered @ $46k and dealers makring them to $75k+
now you can buy a GT500 for under sticker.....


Exactly, as I have tried to say.. The HYPE from those that have vested interest in big sticker, not the CONSUMER, the guy that BUYS,the vehicle...
With actual money... I love America.... Free Speech is a wonnderful thing.

Ok guys, either you have not really been reading this forum for the months we've been posting all this info or you're simply choosing to ignore it.

The 09V will be selling for about 65K, maybe a few K more or less depending upon how you want it optioned. Not 55K - Not 75K. Please dump those numbers from here on out because you're not being realistic based on the information that has been put out so far since NAIAS 08.

Now whether some dealership(s) get the initial allotment of cars and try to sell them for more than MSRP is a function of the Dealership(s), not GM / Cadillac. They no longer control the selling price of the car once it's shipped to a dealership. It is the dealerships themselves attempting to get more for the car over MSRP and that doesn't matter if it's GM, Ford, or whoever. If you come across a dealership trying to do this then Go Somewhere Else ! There already has been / is two dealerships represented within this forum who have offered BELOW MSRP for the car, not 10K over. So please stop with the paranoid posts about overpricing the car and how you're going to go buy something else if GM doesn't meet your pricing desires. They are not stupid, they recognize they need to sell the cars, and as it has been their intent all along they are offering a very competitive if not superior product for Less than the competition, not as much or more as you keep wanting to infer.

If you have not already spoken to a dealership / salesman and put a deposit down on one of these cars then the odds are you're going to be waiting several months before you can even attempt to buy one because the serious buyers have already beat you by placing a deposit and are in line to get their car. The initial shipments will be only a few cars to various dealerships. In most cases they have more people waiting in line with deposits down than they will be getting initially. My local dealership has 11 people with deposits on the cars in line as of right now, possibly more since the last time I spoke with them. So some of those folks are going to have to wait, even with a deposit down.

So please stop with the "overpriced" ranting. It is simply not being realistic. If you can afford to purchase a 65K dollar car and have a few months you can wait to get one then you have nothing to be concerned about. If you can't afford that price (possibly as low as 60-62k) then you need to go elsewhere because that's going to be the ballpark of the pricing. Since you don't already have a deposit down, then you also need to be prepared to wait several months even if you can pay the 65K price because it's going to be a few months before the orders are filled for the folks who do already have a deposit down and are waiting. If you can't wait that long then go buy something else. I hear an 06 M5 can be had for about what this car will cost new.

Cadillac Tony
09-19-08, 08:50 AM
:yeah:

Great post, CIWS.

Flyboy
09-19-08, 02:13 PM
Why is GM stalling, easy...they dont know what they're doing....
We are know the 2009 V stats are amazing (hopefully everthing we have seen/read is true)
But the marketplace is changing, there's now ALOT of sub 5 sec sedans on the market...
Price it at $75k or more, most will pass, price it at $60k dealers will marku to $75k++ and we'll pass...
Personally, I'll look at the car 2yrs from now at 40% less..... I did with my 2004 CTS-V.
BMW, Audi, and others will then release their V killers.... and on it goes....
GM should be careful with this car, IE Ford's 2007 GT500 stickered @ $46k and dealers makring them to $75k+
now you can buy a GT500 for under sticker.....

Buy Ford or something else. This is gonna' be an excellent car.

caddiedrummer
09-19-08, 02:44 PM
Ok guys, either you have not really been reading this forum for the months we've been posting all this info or you're simply choosing to ignore it.

The 09V will be selling for about 65K, maybe a few K more or less depending upon how you want it optioned. Not 55K - Not 75K. Please dump those numbers from here on out because you're not being realistic based on the information that has been put out so far since NAIAS 08.

Now whether some dealership(s) get the initial allotment of cars and try to sell them for more than MSRP is a function of the Dealership(s), not GM / Cadillac. They no longer control the selling price of the car once it's shipped to a dealership. It is the dealerships themselves attempting to get more for the car over MSRP and that doesn't matter if it's GM, Ford, or whoever. If you come across a dealership trying to do this then Go Somewhere Else ! There already has been / is two dealerships represented within this forum who have offered BELOW MSRP for the car, not 10K over. So please stop with the paranoid posts about overpricing the car and how you're going to go buy something else if GM doesn't meet your pricing desires. They are not stupid, they recognize they need to sell the cars, and as it has been their intent all along they are offering a very competitive if not superior product for Less than the competition, not as much or more as you keep wanting to infer.

If you have not already spoken to a dealership / salesman and put a deposit down on one of these cars then the odds are you're going to be waiting several months before you can even attempt to buy one because the serious buyers have already beat you by placing a deposit and are in line to get their car. The initial shipments will be only a few cars to various dealerships. In most cases they have more people waiting in line with deposits down than they will be getting initially. My local dealership has 11 people with deposits on the cars in line as of right now, possibly more since the last time I spoke with them. So some of those folks are going to have to wait, even with a deposit down.

So please stop with the "overpriced" ranting. It is simply not being realistic. If you can afford to purchase a 65K dollar car and have a few months you can wait to get one then you have nothing to be concerned about. If you can't afford that price (possibly as low as 60-62k) then you need to go elsewhere because that's going to be the ballpark of the pricing. Since you don't already have a deposit down, then you also need to be prepared to wait several months even if you can pay the 65K price because it's going to be a few months before the orders are filled for the folks who do already have a deposit down and are waiting. If you can't wait that long then go buy something else. I hear an 06 M5 can be had for about what this car will cost new.

Thanks for the advice, but take it from someone who has pre-ordered Vipers, Vettes and other cars where there were all sorts of forecasts about price that proved to be way off. I hope you are right but you have no more idea what this car will cost than any of us.

CIWS
09-19-08, 03:16 PM
Thanks for the advice, but take it from someone who has pre-ordered Vipers, Vettes and other cars where there were all sorts of forecasts about price that proved to be way off. I hope you are right but you have no more idea what this car will cost than any of us.

Just wait and see. :D

Jpjr
09-19-08, 09:02 PM
Ok guys, either you have not really been reading this forum for the months we've been posting all this info or you're simply choosing to ignore it.

The 09V will be selling for about 65K, maybe a few K more or less depending upon how you want it optioned. Not 55K - Not 75K. Please dump those numbers from here on out because you're not being realistic based on the information that has been put out so far since NAIAS 08.

Now whether some dealership(s) get the initial allotment of cars and try to sell them for more than MSRP is a function of the Dealership(s), not GM / Cadillac. They no longer control the selling price of the car once it's shipped to a dealership. It is the dealerships themselves attempting to get more for the car over MSRP and that doesn't matter if it's GM, Ford, or whoever. If you come across a dealership trying to do this then Go Somewhere Else ! There already has been / is two dealerships represented within this forum who have offered BELOW MSRP for the car, not 10K over. So please stop with the paranoid posts about overpricing the car and how you're going to go buy something else if GM doesn't meet your pricing desires. They are not stupid, they recognize they need to sell the cars, and as it has been their intent all along they are offering a very competitive if not superior product for Less than the competition, not as much or more as you keep wanting to infer.

If you have not already spoken to a dealership / salesman and put a deposit down on one of these cars then the odds are you're going to be waiting several months before you can even attempt to buy one because the serious buyers have already beat you by placing a deposit and are in line to get their car. The initial shipments will be only a few cars to various dealerships. In most cases they have more people waiting in line with deposits down than they will be getting initially. My local dealership has 11 people with deposits on the cars in line as of right now, possibly more since the last time I spoke with them. So some of those folks are going to have to wait, even with a deposit down.

So please stop with the "overpriced" ranting. It is simply not being realistic. If you can afford to purchase a 65K dollar car and have a few months you can wait to get one then you have nothing to be concerned about. If you can't afford that price (possibly as low as 60-62k) then you need to go elsewhere because that's going to be the ballpark of the pricing. Since you don't already have a deposit down, then you also need to be prepared to wait several months even if you can pay the 65K price because it's going to be a few months before the orders are filled for the folks who do already have a deposit down and are waiting. If you can't wait that long then go buy something else. I hear an 06 M5 can be had for about what this car will cost new.


Can we stop telling people to buy something else? Some of us have *plenty* of money but care more about value.

STS-V (and XLR-V) was simply not priced correctly. I'd argue that for most on a Cadillac board it has nothing to do with having the $78k MSRP and more to do with not thinking the car is worth $78k... or $72k Employee Price... or $65k....or.....link to ebay ;)

Mika
09-20-08, 02:12 AM
CIWS, who's the local dealer with 11 given deposits? Sewell or Moritz? Or is it hush hush?(understood completely if it is a hush hush).



Mika

CIWS
09-20-08, 08:17 AM
Can we stop telling people to buy something else? Some of us have *plenty* of money but care more about value.


Yes it is partially about value isn't it, the car's build and design. But that comment stems more from the seeming impatience or unwillingness to let the normal cycle of car production take place. There cannot be a final MSRP given yet on a car that has not started regular production. One because some costs are still unknown and another because they haven't finalized how options will be set on the car it seems. Word right now is that will start around Oct 20th, so that's still a month away. It's not about the money (well for some it is), it's about taking a chill pill and letting things happen as they're supposed to. If an individual just can't handle that and is going insane, then yes, go ahead and go buy something else. This vehicle will still go ahead and come out with pricing as it would anyway. :)




CIWS, who's the local dealer with 11 given deposits? Sewell or Moritz? Or is it hush hush?(understood completely if it is a hush hush).



Mika

Well there's more in the area than those two groups, although they're the biggies. Just call around and ask each dealership they should tell you where their list is at right now.

ewill3rd
09-20-08, 10:05 AM
I have to confess, as much as it annoys me I have a strange infatuation with watching people argue over the future. :lol:

Almost as much fun as listening to people argue about the past, as if it could be changed.

Jpjr
09-20-08, 12:05 PM
Yes it is partially about value isn't it, the car's build and design. But that comment stems more from the seeming impatience or unwillingness to let the normal cycle of car production take place. There cannot be a final MSRP given yet on a car that has not started regular production. One because some costs are still unknown and another because they haven't finalized how options will be set on the car it seems. Word right now is that will start around Oct 20th, so that's still a month away. It's not about the money (well for some it is), it's about taking a chill pill and letting things happen as they're supposed to. If an individual just can't handle that and is going insane, then yes, go ahead and go buy something else. This vehicle will still go ahead and come out with pricing as it would anyway. :)

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Well, I acknowledge that is one issue. But many cars have MSRP released before production begins, or at least a formal estimate that gets tweaked by hundreds (not thousands) at time of production. It's not like GM does not know the exact componentry for the car at this point and hasn't placed parts orders if production starts in early October.

My guess is that MSRP is purposely being delayed until after the employee discount promotion is through, or for other marketing purposes (ZR1 got all the mag covers in September so they could be waiting for some more press). Just my opinion.

cazin678
09-25-08, 11:57 AM
$65K, $72K, whatever- not really a concern to me, I have cash and either number is less than I paid for my M6 or M5; In lights of the ZR1 pricing zoo, if a couple of grand is really an issue for anyone, a loaded CTS AWD can be had for well under $50K, and hey, gets better mpg and is cheaper to insure to boot... MSRP hasn't been announced because this isn't a KIA.........

Varsity
09-30-08, 11:12 AM
$65K, $72K, whatever- not really a concern to me, I have cash and either number is less than I paid for my M6 or M5; In lights of the ZR1 pricing zoo, if a couple of grand is really an issue for anyone, a loaded CTS AWD can be had for well under $50K, and hey, gets better mpg and is cheaper to insure to boot... MSRP hasn't been announced because this isn't a KIA.........

Arrogance is not a great attribute!

vperl
09-30-08, 11:43 AM
Ok guys, either you have not really been reading this forum for the months we've been posting all this info or you're simply choosing to ignore it.

The 09V will be selling for about 65K, maybe a few K more or less depending upon how you want it optioned. Not 55K - Not 75K. Please dump those numbers from here on out because you're not being realistic based on the information that has been put out so far since NAIAS 08.

Now whether some dealership(s) get the initial allotment of cars and try to sell them for more than MSRP is a function of the Dealership(s), not GM / Cadillac. They no longer control the selling price of the car once it's shipped to a dealership. It is the dealerships themselves attempting to get more for the car over MSRP and that doesn't matter if it's GM, Ford, or whoever. If you come across a dealership trying to do this then Go Somewhere Else ! There already has been / is two dealerships represented within this forum who have offered BELOW MSRP for the car, not 10K over. So please stop with the paranoid posts about overpricing the car and how you're going to go buy something else if GM doesn't meet your pricing desires. They are not stupid, they recognize they need to sell the cars, and as it has been their intent all along they are offering a very competitive if not superior product for Less than the competition, not as much or more as you keep wanting to infer.

If you have not already spoken to a dealership / salesman and put a deposit down on one of these cars then the odds are you're going to be waiting several months before you can even attempt to buy one because the serious buyers have already beat you by placing a deposit and are in line to get their car. The initial shipments will be only a few cars to various dealerships. In most cases they have more people waiting in line with deposits down than they will be getting initially. My local dealership has 11 people with deposits on the cars in line as of right now, possibly more since the last time I spoke with them. So some of those folks are going to have to wait, even with a deposit down.

So please stop with the "overpriced" ranting. It is simply not being realistic. If you can afford to purchase a 65K dollar car and have a few months you can wait to get one then you have nothing to be concerned about. If you can't afford that price (possibly as low as 60-62k) then you need to go elsewhere because that's going to be the ballpark of the pricing. Since you don't already have a deposit down, then you also need to be prepared to wait several months even if you can pay the 65K price because it's going to be a few months before the orders are filled for the folks who do already have a deposit down and are waiting. If you can't wait that long then go buy something else. I hear an 06 M5 can be had for about what this car will cost new.

__________________________________________________ ____________

Cannot speak for others, but since this is my money, that will buy or not buy the vehicle, I reserve the right to question anything I might wish .

Others may disagree, but unless they pay for the vehicle I purchase, maybe they ought to be a tad more civil in tone

razl
09-30-08, 12:32 PM
$65K, $72K, whatever- not really a concern to me, I have cash and either number is less than I paid for my M6 or M5;
Arrogance is not a great attribute!


Varsity: neither is envy.

Varsity
09-30-08, 01:51 PM
RAZL. No envy here just common courtesy.

Those who have the cash don't need to tell the world, its those that don't who seem to shout it out loudest.

I am pleased for whoever, but the tone of the comment IMHO was just vulgar.

Jpjr
09-30-08, 02:36 PM
RAZL. No envy here just common courtesy.

Those who have the cash don't need to tell the world, its those that don't who seem to shout it out loudest.

I am pleased for whoever, but the tone of the comment IMHO was just vulgar.


Although I thought your comment was right on, it seems like the loudest shouts come from people who challenge people on a high MSRP. I have plenty of money but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy a great value. Anything above $60k does not make the V1 the same value as the V2 IMO for a number of reasons.

LV_V
09-30-08, 02:56 PM
Although I thought your comment was right on, it seems like the loudest shouts come from people who challenge people on a high MSRP. I have plenty of money but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy a great value. Anything above $60k does not make the V1 the same value as the V2 IMO for a number of reasons.

I am not quite sure what you, and everyone else, is complaining about. For one, the MSRP has not been released, so don't get your panties in a wad until then. Second, the V2 is a completely different animal than the V1. I would LOVE to know what your reasons are for the V2 not being as good of a value as the V1. We are talking MSRP here buddy, not a used V1 to a new V2...


My 04 V's MSRP was $55k+. With the improvements that the V2 has over the V1 I don't see how anyone in their right mind can argue that an MSRP above $60k, let alone $65k, doesn't make the V2 a relative deal. :rolleyes:

Krug Ford
09-30-08, 03:08 PM
I was told by someone at GM Pricing should be announced any day now..

I was told that before last month.

Maybe it will show up on this Thursday.

CIWS
09-30-08, 03:48 PM
Cannot speak for others, but since this is my money, that will buy or not buy the vehicle, I reserve the right to question anything I might wish .

Others may disagree, but unless they pay for the vehicle I purchase, maybe they ought to be a tad more civil in tone

Questioning is fine. Especially in the case of such a large purchase. But when the same questions keep getting asked over and over again despite being answered multiple times, it gets old.

vperl
09-30-08, 06:09 PM
Questioning is fine. Especially in the case of such a large purchase. But when the same questions keep getting asked over and over again despite being answered multiple times, it gets old.

---------------------------------------------------------------

Thank You so much, for being allowed to question my Purchase of vehicle that sells in the unknow range of 60-70K. the vehicle is great, but still questions are around to be asked.... sorry to be so much trouble.

CIWS
09-30-08, 09:52 PM
Thank You so much, for being allowed to question my Purchase of vehicle that sells in the unknow range of 60-70K. the vehicle is great, but still questions are around to be asked.... sorry to be so much trouble.

You're quite welcome. Perhaps you might want to question the purchase of a Jag XF ? It's potential range would be from 50-65K, depending upon base model and options chosen there as well.

lawfive
09-30-08, 09:59 PM
this thread

:facepalm:

CIWS
10-01-08, 12:00 AM
this thread

:facepalm:


Here you go Jerry :)



http://nihilcredo.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/facepalm1.jpeg

LV_V
10-01-08, 01:37 AM
lol :highfive:

Varsity
10-01-08, 04:42 AM
Although I thought your comment was right on, it seems like the loudest shouts come from people who challenge people on a high MSRP. I have plenty of money but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy a great value. Anything above $60k does not make the V1 the same value as the V2 IMO for a number of reasons.


Amen brother!

The Tony Show
10-01-08, 08:56 AM
The first CTS-V was a great "value" because it had a crappy rear end, cheaper interior than a V6 CTS, wonky shifter and a parts bin engine heisted from the Z06.

I find it hilarious that everyone complained about all the shortcomings in the first Gen CTS-V, but then are shocked and outraged when GM has the audacity to actually charge a little extra for all the things they re-engineered and upgraded this time. :doh: This may come as a shock to some people, but 6 piston calipers, slotted rotors, superchargers, intercoolers, 19" wheels, PS2 tires, LED dash tracers, Recaro seats, gloss black trim, suede steering wheels, electric parking brakes and magnetic shocks cost money.

atdeneve
10-01-08, 10:07 AM
The first CTS-V was a great "value" because it had a crappy rear end, cheaper interior than a V6 CTS, wonky shifter and a parts bin engine heisted from the Z06.

I find it hilarious that everyone complained about all the shortcomings in the first Gen CTS-V, but then are shocked and outraged when GM has the audacity to actually charge a little extra for all the things they re-engineered and upgraded this time. :doh: This may come as a shock to some people, but 6 piston calipers, slotted rotors, superchargers, intercoolers, 19" wheels, PS2 tires, LED dash tracers, Recaro seats, gloss black trim, suede steering wheels, electric parking brakes and magnetic shocks cost money.

How dare you, sir? :tisk:

Take that back.

The Tony Show
10-01-08, 10:38 AM
:lol:

It's true though- the Gen 1 CTS-V has the exact same LS6 and LS2 from the Corvettes, including the cam, heads and pistons, whereas the Gen 2's LSA is a completely unique configuration of the LS Engine (different valves, pistons, cam, supercharger, etc). Every time you make an additional variant of something there's some extra cost associated with building it.

Taking that into consideration, along with all the other upgrades over a V6 model that the first gen didn't have, and I just don't understand why people can't fathom that the price increase over the base model is going to be a little higher than last time.

RippyPartsDept
10-01-08, 11:16 AM
I have to confess, as much as it annoys me I have a strange infatuation with watching people argue over the future. :lol:

Almost as much fun as listening to people argue about the past, as if it could be changed.

You and me both... kind of like watching a horrific crash.

thanks for the good read this morning folks :bouncy:

Jpjr
10-01-08, 11:25 AM
:lol:

It's true though- the Gen 1 CTS-V has the exact same LS6 and LS2 from the Corvettes, including the cam, heads and pistons, whereas the Gen 2's LSA is a completely unique configuration of the LS Engine (different valves, pistons, cam, supercharger, etc). Every time you make an additional variant of something there's some extra cost associated with building it.

Taking that into consideration, along with all the other upgrades over a V6 model that the first gen didn't have, and I just don't understand why people can't fathom that the price increase over the base model is going to be a little higher than last time.


It is a toned down Corvette motor, not a Northstar motor built for Cadillac. New generation, same formula.

And everyone expects a price increase, just something reasonable. I don't know how many times I have to cite the STS-V and XLR-V and say "These cars are simply not worth their sticker prices". I don't want to say that about the V2, because I simply won't buy it. This is why people like me care about MSRP right now...

Bigron
10-01-08, 02:10 PM
I am eager to hear the MSRP so I can divide it by two and know how much money I need to have in 3 years to buy it.

But joking aside, I watch gmpricing.com in hopes someone leaks it early there.

mcerino
10-01-08, 03:58 PM
I think that GM has really messed up on releasing the pricing on the new CTS-v

In my case, if i had known the price a couple months ago, i would have comitted to my dealer who offered me his first allocated V. But without pricing i didn't want to do that since rumors were off by almos 15k on zr-1.

now with the economy, I'll wait no matter what. So the delay in pricing info has cost my purchase, and i know a bunch of people who have gone from being in the market to out of it(or delayed would be more appropriate)

My dealer choose not to even order his allocation that's how bad our local economy has gotten.

justboughtacaddy
10-01-08, 09:25 PM
I am currently on the Cadillac website and theres a $2000.00 on a 2009 cts-v for the western region and the 2009 CTS price range is from $36,880-$59,025. The base CTS is the $36,880 and since the AWD DI is $41,080 then $59,025 is your V not including a 2000 rebate. Can someone confirm this for me cause i am seing it with my own eyes but no rumor of pricing yet.