: Seventies Classic...



firstimecaddi
08-31-08, 11:46 AM
...I'm considering. What do you guy think?

http://http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii31/noilion/P1010347.jpg

http://http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii31/noilion/P1010351.jpg


http://http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii31/noilion/P1010406.jpg

http://http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii31/noilion/P1010355.jpg

http://http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii31/noilion/P1010362.jpg

Lord Cadillac
08-31-08, 12:16 PM
Very nice! How much?

firstimecaddi
08-31-08, 02:23 PM
it's up for auction...the sticker said it could yeild between $5000-$12000. I would like to get it somewhere around the lower end.

What can you knowledgeable folks tell me about this model?

cooncat
08-31-08, 02:35 PM
The Calais was a rare entry level Cadillac. I don't think they built that many of them since the DeVille was the most popular of all models. They standard items on the DeVille, such power windows, seats, etc were options on the Calais. But this was still very much a Cadillac with the same motor. This looks to be a very nice example of a 1970, my favorite year. Good luck and welcome to the forums.

cooncat
08-31-08, 02:43 PM
Here is a link to the 1970 brochure:
http://www.car-nection.com/cadillacdatabase/dbas_txt/Phocad70.htm

Enjoy and I hope it works. You may also play with the years.

firstimecaddi
08-31-08, 02:59 PM
also, 472 cu.in./375 hp. What I especially like is the clean an uncomplicated dash and also how the front grille, rear windsheild and rear end share the same contours. There is some rust damage though, not very bad but noticeable.



@cooncat.....thx for the link.

cadillac_al
08-31-08, 07:43 PM
I can't say anything bad about a '70 Deville; even a pea soup '70 deville. If you like the color you will love the car.

pompste
08-31-08, 09:04 PM
Great looking Caddy! I love those giant dinosaur Cadillacs from the past,from a time when "excess ruled".

bicentennialcadillac
09-01-08, 04:27 PM
Great looking Caddy! I love those giant dinosaur Cadillacs from the past,from a time when "excess ruled".

It still does.

Awesome car. I love the Calais models' clean rooflines.

jayoldschool
09-01-08, 06:12 PM
I don't know... that is high money for a stripper base model four door. Yes, it's in good shape. However, that doesn't make up for the fact that it's a Calais, it's four doors, and it's not a desireable colour combo (subjective). I think the auction est is high, and I think that for the money you are thinking about spending, you could do better if you have patience.

Aron9000
09-03-08, 02:56 AM
Not my color, but it looks like a very nice survivor

somename
09-05-08, 10:55 AM
Nice looking 70. Just a warning, 1970 was the last year for high compression; 10.0:1, unless the engine has been rebuilt at some point you'll need to run premium, and a lead additive for the valves, also probably a octane boost. Not trying to scare you, just a warning. I love the old high compression Caddys but the nice thing about the 71-Northstar era is they usually run just fine on 87 octane.

472
09-06-08, 01:20 AM
Northstar era is they usually run just fine on 87 octane.

The Northstar itself requires premium (10:1).

The car looks pretty nice! Can't beat a hard top :cool2: There is a lot of potential in the paint as far as bringing some shine back. I'm not real up on the market for that vintage but that dollar bracket does seem a little high unless she's got pretty low miles and no "surprises".

jayoldschool
09-06-08, 10:01 AM
I'm almost positive the 4100 owner's manual also specifies premium.

somename
09-06-08, 08:03 PM
The Northstar itself requires premium (10:1).


That's what I meant; between 71 and when the Northstar was introduced Caddys run fine on regular. I own a 97 Deville, and believe me I'm well aware of the octane requirements.

My friend's 84 Coupe DeVille with a 4100 runs just fine on regular. Well if you consider how slow it is to be “just fine”

orconn
09-06-08, 08:46 PM
I have had some experience with a 1970 Cadillac 4-door hardtop, although Sedan de Ville. My Aunt had one and I used to be asked to drive it from Pheonix to LA and then chauffeur her around LA and SoCal. She kept it in immacualte condition both mechanically and cosmetically so I think it was a good representative of the breed. A pretty good car if you are into the "land yacht" period cars. Cruised well at 85 mph not very nimble around town and I am sure got around 12 MPG around town. I do remember the from seats were particualrly comfortable on long trips.

I think if the car has any rust at all, even $5000.00 is high. It really is a lack luster 1970' model being a Calais and collector interest would be cool due to the color and lack of equipment. Personally I'd pass and look for a more desirable model. Beware of the latter cars smog controls.

csbuckn
09-06-08, 08:58 PM
I don't know... that is high money for a stripper base model four door. Yes, it's in good shape. However, that doesn't make up for the fact that it's a Calais, it's four doors, and it's not a desireable colour combo (subjective). I think the auction est is high, and I think that for the money you are thinking about spending, you could do better if you have patience.

Thats what I was thinking. Too high of a price for me. The one I was looking at up here was 2500, not in the shape that this car is in but not too far from it.

Aron9000
09-08-08, 06:18 AM
^That car would be a good one to do a radical custom on. Big wheels, air suspension, custom paint(gunmetal gray would look cool), etc.

Its not like you're hacking up a very desirable fleetwood or convertible, and most people find that color to be horrendous.

bicentennialcadillac
09-08-08, 11:04 PM
^That car would be a good one to do a radical custom on. Big wheels, air suspension, custom paint(gunmetal gray would look cool), etc.

Its not like you're hacking up a very desirable fleetwood or convertible, and most people find that color to be horrendous.

Dumbest thing I've heard all day.

Aron9000
09-09-08, 02:03 AM
Dumbest thing I've heard all day.

It doesn't even have to be all that crazy to look nice. Maybe some 20" polished aluminum wheels, lowered, painted black, or maybe a dark burgandy, or a nice blue. All I'm saying is that car isn't very desirable the way it is now, so its not like you're hacking up a pink 59 convertible.

cadillac_al
09-09-08, 07:02 AM
My old 70 Deville was gunmetal gray with black vinyl top; very classy (or gangsta). I'll second that choice.

delzy
09-10-08, 03:35 AM
Sorry for going OT, but here goes:

Does anyone know of a way to replace the old school points ignition with a modern cdi. And by the same token, is there some kind of throttle Body injection that you can get on these old big blocks. The reason I ask is because I would seriously consider one of these if I could get rid of the two items I think cause the most maintenance issues. Where would I start to look to find out more about these mods?

somename
09-10-08, 09:59 AM
^Pick up an issue of Hemmings, (http://www.hemmings.com/) there's about half a dozen replacment electronic iginition that does just that. Some of them are hidden until you remove the distributor cap.

Cadillacboy
09-10-08, 02:46 PM
Other than color the car has got , those '69-70s are m fave models regardless of model but Fleetwood is the most fave model

bicentennialcadillac
09-10-08, 09:48 PM
I appreciate period colors on period cars. Just a difference of opinion, but I think it would be tragic to cut that car up.

77CDV
09-10-08, 10:08 PM
Yeah, it's overpriced. But, it's also an interesting piece of automotive history in its own right. Just like when they were new, base models live in the shadow of their more expensive, higher-trim companion models. Too often, they end up as described above, modified into something else. They may not be flashy, but preserving base models like the Calais gives people a chance to see that not every car Cadillac made was an option-loaded, high-flair showboat, and they deserve just as much respect as any contemporary Fleetwood or Deville convertible. Just not at this price.

Craig