View Full Version : Need info from 06+ DTS service shop manual. Please help.


mrgoodbar67
08-27-08, 01:05 PM
Anyone have a service shop manual for a 2006+ DTS with the LED turn signals in the side view mirrors?

I dont wanna buy it... i just want a fellow member to supply me with some info from it.

My dilemna-
I need to know what each wire/pin does on the 2 gray harness' that each led mirror has.

-one is a 12 pin gray harness that has only 11 wires &
-the other is an 8 pin gray harness that has only 4 wires.

If you have dts with stock led's in mirrors and your manual has a DDM C4 and C5 matching the above...you have the info i need.

On the drivers side, the plugs connect to the DDM (Driver Door Module). One plug goes into the 8 pin slot and the other goes into the 12 pin slot.
The passenger has the same procedure, but of coarse plug into the PFDM (Passenger Door Module) instead.

This is why i need the info and what im trying to do-
Im adding LED sideviews to my 02 dts.
I have 2 complete color matched mirrors w/ leds, housings and harnesses from an 06+ DTS.
My probelm is that the mirror harness' from 02 are diff than the ones on 06+dts.
Since its not a plug n' play, ima have to cut the 02 harness'/wires from the mirrors and attatch them to the 06+ led mirror wires.
Thats why i need to know what each wire on the 06+ DTS mirror does so that i can solder them on to the correct function on the 02 mirror harness wires.
Then itll be plug and play.....oh and i have to route the led wire to my turn signal.

Please assist me with this info if you can.
I attached a picture of the harness' so that you have an idea of what im talking about.

If you can send me a scanned picture of DDM's C4 and C5 aswell as PFDM's C4 and C5 showing the plugs, pin layout and function would be great.
If not, a list with the color of the wires, its position in the harness and its function is fine.

I know it might be alot to ask for but i NEED this info.

Thanks fellas.

c5 rv
08-27-08, 02:42 PM
I saw something on the local news that LED mirrors are the new hot theft item, right up there with catalytic converters.

mrgoodbar67
09-01-08, 01:05 AM
any one?
JUST A LITTLE HELP PLEASE

Andy1
09-14-08, 03:28 PM
MrGoodbar67
Andy1 here in Calgary
Here's what my 06 DTS shop manual says:
DDM C3
pin 1 L-GN left mirror down
pin 2 WH left mirror left

Andy1
09-14-08, 04:03 PM
MrGoodbar67
Andy1 here in Calgary

Here's what my 06 DTS shop manual says:

DDM C3
pin 1 L-GN left mirror down
pin 2 WH left mirror left
pin 3 GY/L-GN mirror heat reference
pin 4-5 not used
pin 6 TN/RD left mirror up right
pin 7 TN/PK mirror heat supply
pin 89 not used
pin 10 low reference

DDM C5
pin 1 YE fold mirror extend
pin 2 L-BU fold mirror retract
pin 3 not
pin 4 D-GN/TN mirror vert signal sensor
pin 5 GY/PU mirror horiz signal sensor
pin 6 not
pin 7D-BU 5 volt reference
pin 8-9 not
pin 10 BN/L-GN low reference

FPDM C3
pin 1 PU/WH rt mirror down
pin 2 OG/WH mirror left
pin 3 D-GN/YE mirror heat low reference
pin 4-5 not
pin 6 TN/PU mirror up/right
pin 7 PU pass mirror heat supply
pi 8-9 not
pin 10 Bn/L-BU low reference

FPDM C5
pin 1 YE pass fold mirr extend
pin 2 L-BU fold mirr retract
pin3 not
pin 4 BN mirror vert signal sensor
pin 5 L-BU/BK mirror vert signal sensor
pin 6 not
pin 7 YE/PU 5 volt reference

Driver Mirror C1
pin 1 L-Bu/WH LEFT TURN SIGNAL LAMP VOLTAGE ***
pin 2 BN/L-BU low reference
pin 3 GY/L-GN mirror heat reference
pin 4 TN/PK mirror heat supply
pin 5 Auto day/night dimming
pin 6 PK/BN auto day/night reference signal
pin 7 YE fold mirror extend
pin 8 L-BU fold mirror retract
pin 9 L-GN mirror down
pin 10 TN/RD mirror up/right

Passenger mirror C1
pin 1 D-BU/WH RIGHT MIRROR TURN SIGNAL POWER ***
pin 2 BN/L-BU low reference
pin 3 D-GN/YE mirror heat reference
pin 4 PU mirror heat supply
pin 5-6 not
pin 7 YE mirror fold extend
pin 8 L-BU mirror fold retract
pin 9 PU/WH mirror down
pin 10 TN/PU mirror up/right
pin 11 OG/WH mirror left
pin 12 not

Good luck! I don't know if you can take 12 volts from your turn signal and pump it into the mirror LEDs. They usually run on less than 2 volts !! They are also polarity sensitive.
Maybe try some flashlight batteries first and increase voltage one battery at a time.

mrgoodbar67
09-14-08, 05:52 PM
thanks Andy1.

I finally got what i needed.
from the basic looks of it it looks promising.
However, you forgot to post the info for DDM C$ and FPDM C4.
can you post it please.
To help me even better, can you scan the pages with the info and email them to me...or you can fax them to me.

let me know

Andy1
09-16-08, 08:06 PM
Mr Goodbar67
I didn't include both C4s for driver and passenger as they have nothing to do with LED mirrors or doors.
They are for seat heat, memory exit, and seat cool.
Andy1

mrgoodbar67
09-16-08, 08:18 PM
Makes sense but i still need those specs because i need to also connect my mem seat wires,mem exit, heated/cool controls, etc......
Can you please post that info?
W/out it i wont be able to program my mem positions to my new mirrors.
Thanks

Andy1
09-17-08, 10:59 AM
Ok, here is C4 pin info
Driver DDM4
pin 1 WK/BK Driver heat seat 'Medium indicator'
pin 2 D-GN " " 'High heat indicator'
pin 3 L-Gn/BK heat seat 'switch vent cool signal'
pin 4 D-BU/WH heat seat 'switch low reference'
pin 5 OG 'memory switch exit signal'
pin 6 D-BU heat seat 'switch back cushion signal'
pin 7 GY " " 'switch back signal'
pin 8 not
pin 9 L-BU " " 'low indicator control'
pin 10 BN " " 'switch back cushion LED'
pin 11 PU " " 'switch back LED'
pin 12 OG/WH heat seat 'switch vent cool LED'
pin 13 BN/WH " " switch lamp dimming'
pin 14 GY/BK 'memory seat switch high reference'

passenger C4
pin 1 WH/BK heat seat 'medium indictor control'
pin 2 D-GN " " 'high indicator control'
pin 3 L-GN/BK " " 'switch vent cool signal'
pin 4 PK " " 'switch low reference'
pin 5 not
pin 6 BK " " 'switch back cushion signal'
pin 7 GY " " 'switch back signal'
pin 8 not
pin 9 TN/WH " " 'low indicator control'
pin 10 OG/WH " " 'switch back cushion LED'
pin 11 PU " " 'switch back LED
pin 12 BN " " 'switch vent cool LED
pin 13 L-BU " " 'switch lamp dimming'
pin 14 not