: Has anybody completely removed wheelhop?



By By C Ya
08-11-08, 10:43 AM
I know this has been discussed a lot and that there are a few kits out there, but was wondering your guys' opinion on what you may have done or what you may know to eliminate wheelhop. I love the car, but the bunny hops are driving me crazy!! I want to add more power to the car but feel that is useless until I can cure the hop. Thanks in advance.

Twitch
08-11-08, 11:52 AM
Have you seen my thread about the Specter Werks bushings? It has a video.
I'm really not worried about the wheelhop any more. The rare occasion that I get it, its very tame.

justin311
08-11-08, 12:03 PM
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-cts-v-series-forum-2004/146339-traction-kit-group-buy-info-upgraded.html

By By C Ya
08-11-08, 01:00 PM
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-cts-v-series-forum-2004/146339-traction-kit-group-buy-info-upgraded.html

Yeah, been checking out that thread, but for the money I don't believe it's worth it beings in doesn't completely remove it. Doesn't sound any more promising than bushings or other less expensive kits out there.

rb1
08-11-08, 02:21 PM
I thought that the KARS stage III was supposed to totally eliminate wheelhop. Who said it doesn't?

By By C Ya
08-11-08, 02:47 PM
I thought that the KARS stage III was supposed to totally eliminate wheelhop. Who said it doesn't?

Read the entire thread, the truth comes out towards the end, starting at post #50. Thanks.

smoothq
08-11-08, 03:00 PM
If you want to spend 7500 dollars, then Madman rearend is the other option . The people who have bought it have not had anymore wheel hop. Or maybe look into a solid axle. That would be a deffinate cure.

Twitch
08-11-08, 03:38 PM
I thought that the KARS stage III was supposed to totally eliminate wheelhop. Who said it doesn't?
The guy who actually built it in the first place. When he was doing them, I think he said it was 85-95% eliminated.
I'm quite happy with the Specter bushings.

By By C Ya
08-11-08, 04:31 PM
The guy who actually built it in the first place. When he was doing them, I think he said it was 85-95% eliminated.
I'm quite happy with the Specter bushings.

How does a guy get his hands on the Specter bushings? I couldn't find them under supporting vendors. Also, do they add any noise, creaks etc.? Thanks in advance.

Nutz
08-11-08, 04:41 PM
Chuck and Lance Mallett GUARANTEE no wheelhop with their "Mallett designed/Penske" shocks. For $3K and alot of trust... Maybe some Mallett CTS-V owners with the shock upgrade can chime in here to support or deny this.

Twitch
08-11-08, 04:55 PM
How does a guy get his hands on the Specter bushings? I couldn't find them under supporting vendors. Also, do they add any noise, creaks etc.? Thanks in advance.
Specter Werks. They are a vendor.
$250, pretty simple installation. You'll hear the rear a little more (whine,when you change gears etc,,,). An added bonus, is that the car handels a lot better with them on. I'm surprised at how well they work, and I didn't think I'd like them this much. Well worth the price.

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-cts-v-series-forum-2004/140434-specter-works-bushings-bonus-video-inside.html

stkshkr
08-11-08, 07:10 PM
I have the KARS Traction package and EPP subframe connectors, I'll say it again...I have no wheelhop under any conditions
I've had a 1.60 60'

rpm_69
08-11-08, 11:03 PM
I have the KARS Traction package and EPP subframe connectors, I'll say it again...I have no wheelhop under any conditions
I've had a 1.60 60'

Do you have a part # or URL for where to find the EPP subframe connectors for a CTS-V? I could not find them on the EPP site. Thanks.

JimmyH
08-11-08, 11:19 PM
I fail to see any trace of sanity in cradling the differential. All you are doing is taking the stress from one area and displacing it to another.

FG2+RS-A=minimal wheelhop. UltraHP tires make no sense on this car, considering you can't put the stock torque down through them.

From a standing start, if I engage the clutch hard up to 3000 rpm, I get a few skips before the tires grab.
If nail it hard from a roll, I can spin them hop free all day long on asphalt. On concrete, not so much.

stkshkr
08-12-08, 07:17 AM
Do you have a part # or URL for where to find the EPP subframe connectors for a CTS-V? I could not find them on the EPP site. Thanks.

It was custom made for my car as I have a different rear suspension setup. They are not sold off the shelf.

atdeneve
08-12-08, 07:23 AM
I fail to see any trace of sanity in cradling the differential. All you are doing is taking the stress from one area and displacing it to another.

FG2+RS-A=minimal wheelhop. UltraHP tires make no sense on this car, considering you can't put the stock torque down through them.

From a standing start, if I engage the clutch hard up to 3000 rpm, I get a few skips before the tires grab.
If nail it hard from a roll, I can spin them hop free all day long on asphalt. On concrete, not so much.

On the other hand, I'd argue that RS-As have no place on this car.

So, lesson of the day, if your main concern is being able to launch the V with minimal wheel hop, get some weak sauce RS-As. If you wanna be able to maximize the Vs handling and grip, get some real rubber.

You can also simply toss on some Specter bushings and the wheel hop will be all but gone, without having to revert to wanker tires. And there you have it. You can do your aggressive launches and still run a set of proper tires.

Twitch
08-12-08, 07:30 AM
My Falkens are pretty sticky. With my setup (nothing special) I get minimal hop. I'm simply not worried about it anymore!
This is a performance car. It needs the best performing tires, so you can get your moneys worth out of it.

BTW the price of my tires, along with the Specter bushings, is probably about as much as a set of RS-As.

smoothq
08-12-08, 10:39 AM
I was wondering has anybody put on the specter werks bushings and the BMR wheel hop kit on one car yet..? I have the BMR AWH kit and the Toe rod, and Trailing arms.. If someone has put both on then maybe you can tell me if it helps im thing of buying the specter werks also.. thanks

PeteZourdos
08-12-08, 10:51 AM
Hello, I just bought a 2005 V with 11k miles and the wheel hop is bad so I figured the car was stock. I had it on a lift the other day while installing a shifter and noticed that it does infact have the bmr kit which consists of bushings and a cross bar. I've never driven a stock V, but I really don't think this kit does what they say it will do on their website.("wheelhop is reduced approximately 75%") I like bmr and think they are a great company, but I would not purchase this kit for $329.95.

YoshiV
08-12-08, 10:59 AM
Chuck and Lance Mallett GUARANTEE no wheelhop with their "Mallett designed/Penske" shocks. For $3K and alot of trust... Maybe some Mallett CTS-V owners with the shock upgrade can chime in here to support or deny this.

Mallett also cryo treats the case and internals of the diff and home make their own bushings to mount the diff and the rear cradle. They probably have the best solution but it's expensive.

JimmyH
08-12-08, 01:06 PM
On the other hand, I'd argue that RS-As have no place on this car.

I mostly agree with you. I bought two RS-A used (well, three, but one is in the trunk) because my front F1s are in good shape, but the rears were bald in the middle. The RS-A are just so I can use up the other F1s. I will decide what to replace all four with next year.

In the meantime, I am enjoying launches I get with the RS-A, and the steering precision of the F1. It's the best of both worlds (if I ignore the horrid screeching sound coming from the rear around turns)

Luna.
08-12-08, 04:18 PM
I have the KARS III kit and I still have wheel hop.

Those of you who don't have hop, Specter bushings, upgraded GM bushings, whatever, consider yourself fortunate...