: Power Steering Cooler upgrade?



jerrycecco
08-06-08, 12:42 AM
I heard at open tracking events, V's COULD over heat the power steering fluid.

Has anyone upgraded their power steering cooler?
I saw this:
http://www.cadillacfaq.com/faq/answers/steeringcooler/index.html

Does anyone have other suggestions to prevent power steering to over heat?

Jerry

thebigjimsho
08-06-08, 01:05 AM
I haven't had a single run where I didn't have fluid seeping out the cap. I found PS fluid all over the place when installing my headers, so I'll probably upgrade the cooler when I replace the pump...

SkullV
08-06-08, 01:18 AM
Wow only $45? I will definitely be doing this upgrade before my track day on the 18th!

Confirmed part # on Summit..now its only $34.99!

v-sam
08-06-08, 02:03 AM
Seeping??? HAHA my V pisses power steering fluid. I ordered mine 3 weeks ago and have not put it on yet cause I don't have anymore track days until October. I would also recommend using Redline power steering fluid.

NormV
08-06-08, 02:33 AM
Mine leaks too until it is at the minimum level, then it stops. I even double O-ringed the cap with no luck. It must leak out a breather hole.

I think the heat will kill them eventually and the use of Refline or RP and bigger cooler should help.

Norm

Naf
08-06-08, 09:11 AM
Hmm, i was takin a look at the location for that cooler, and i dont think i have enough space for that and my oil cooler...

Do you think i can squeeze the hose onto a 1/2" nipple rather and a 3/8"?

Thinkin about gettin the perma cool 212 two row four pass cooler....

Your thoughts ar welcomed

Bueller
08-06-08, 11:25 AM
Naf,

Just use a reducing coupling and the right size hose.>>

Ebay Coupling (http://cgi.ebay.com/REDUCING-COUPLING-1-2-HOSE-TO-3-8-HOSE-POLYPRO_W0QQitemZ270225008560QQcmdZViewItem?_trksi d=p3286.m20.l1116)

Has anyone used a larger cooler on the track yet without any overflow or leaks?

bdawg
04-03-09, 06:20 PM
I did the faq powersteering cooler upgrade.Till I did it my power steering fluid would always be all over my reservior after hitting the canyons.Now w/ the new cooler and some redline I haven't had any excess fluid at all on the reservior.:burn:

thebigjimsho
04-03-09, 09:28 PM
I did the faq powersteering cooler upgrade.Till I did it my power steering fluid would always be all over my reservior after hitting the canyons.Now w/ the new cooler and some redline I haven't had any excess fluid at all on the reservior.:burn:
Thanks for the feedback. Good to know...

Bueller
04-03-09, 09:44 PM
I looked for that part online but couldn't find it. I need this.

Do you by any chance have the part number?

rjoffe
04-03-09, 10:10 PM
Link to another thread about this issue:

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-cts-v-series-forum-2004/159008-stock-power-steering-fluid-temps.html

thebigjimsho
04-04-09, 10:48 PM
many threads. one answer...

darkman
04-04-09, 10:57 PM
I looked for that part online but couldn't find it. I need this.

Do you by any chance have the part number?


http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=FLD-FHP-10026

shadybx7
04-05-09, 01:36 AM
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=FLD-FHP-10026

i guess you guys bought them all cause its N/A now

would this work?? dimensions wise, its just a little bit larger?
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=FLD-FHP-10029&N=700+400076+306487+115&autoview=sku

jerrycecco
04-05-09, 09:52 AM
here's thr org article I read to install the upgraded PS cooler:
http://www.cadillacfaq.com/faq/answers/steeringcooler/index.html

break out the measuring tape

One IDEA was to take the stock cooler and remount vertically.
.....we saw the stock unit is mounted hortizontally...strange...did not seem to catch the airflow that way

You can try it and see what happens. IF doesnt help you can try the larger unit -- after confirming it fits...

--Jerry

darkman
04-05-09, 11:45 AM
i guess you guys bought them all cause its N/A now

would this work?? dimensions wise, its just a little bit larger?
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=FLD-FHP-10029&N=700+400076+306487+115&autoview=sku

Now that you mention it when I went ot order mine Summit was out of the Fluidyne 10026. At the time I thought the lack of availability was a temporary thing. I ended up getting the Fluidyne 10029 from Dagostino Racing. It is the same thickness so it should fit inside the stock bracket used in the FAQ. The 10029 is larger and has more passes. (I have not installed mine yet.)

thebigjimsho
04-05-09, 02:59 PM
Let us know how that turns out. I haven't installed a new cooler yet but probably will this spring...

SoJersey05V
04-05-09, 06:04 PM
i saw that the one on the FAQ was no longer available... this new one should still work right? if so i'll order tonight.

bdawg
04-05-09, 08:07 PM
I had the same promblem when i went to Summit it was n/a but I got mine from Absolute radiator in Brea ,ca they have a web site.The only thing is it came silver so you have to paint it.

v-sam
04-06-09, 06:41 AM
Tried to install my P.S. cooler this weekend and I couldn't make it fit with my oil cooler. Going to take it to a mechanic pal of mine and see if he has any ideas on how to get it in there...Keep you posted.

Feffman
04-06-09, 06:57 AM
Tried to install my P.S. cooler this weekend and I couldn't make it fit with my oil cooler. Going to take it to a mechanic pal of mine and see if he has any ideas on how to get it in there...Keep you posted.

Tried the same thing before hitting the track, but gave up and simply swapped out the fluid (using Redline power steering fluid) before each track day. Simply pumped it out of the reservoir, drive it around a little bit, pumped it dry again and replaced with new fluid. Never had an issue even in near 100 degree temps and high humidity on the track.

Feff

PISNUOFF
04-06-09, 11:58 AM
I had one of the Fluidyne ones and it failed after ther first track day. There was a bad weld where the 6 flat pipes converge back into 1. Luckily it didn't piss out all of my fluid until the day after the track. I'd have felt bad if I coated the track with fluid. I'm making a bracket right now to fit a larger PS cooler on top of an oil cooler with an integral fan.

darkman
04-06-09, 04:11 PM
I had one of the Fluidyne ones and it failed after ther first track day. There was a bad weld where the 6 flat pipes converge back into 1. Luckily it didn't piss out all of my fluid until the day after the track. I'd have felt bad if I coated the track with fluid. I'm making a bracket right now to fit a larger PS cooler on top of an oil cooler with an integral fan.

Since I only have a few bucks invested in my uninstalled Fluidyne 10029 is there another brand or specific unit that I should consider?

I would be looking for something with a 1" thickness so I could reuse the stock bracket.

jerrycecco
04-06-09, 05:52 PM
I reused the stock bracket with the org. part# 10026
only way to know is to put new part with stock bracket

psycho43142
04-06-09, 06:02 PM
Since I only have a few bucks invested in my uninstalled Fluidyne 10029 is there another brand or specific unit that I should consider?

I would be looking for something with a 1" thickness so I could reuse the stock bracket.

I don't know if they have one the right thickness but the B&M plate style cooler as they are stronger and more efficient.

SoJersey05V
04-06-09, 06:21 PM
soo whats the verdict? lol what can i use? get this "newer" one that is availabe or try and find the org. one

Bueller
04-07-09, 10:35 AM
Keep us updated on the installs. I was going to buy the original fluidyne but couldn't find it.

PISNUOFF
04-07-09, 12:02 PM
Since I only have a few bucks invested in my uninstalled Fluidyne 10029 is there another brand or specific unit that I should consider?

I would be looking for something with a 1" thickness so I could reuse the stock bracket.

Derale - part number 13101 (close to stock size) or 13103 (next size larger).

DER-13101 is 5.125 x 12.75 x 3/4 thick with 3.75 between the inlet and outlet. - $31.95 from Summit.

DER-13103 is 7.5 x 14 x 3/4 thick. with 6.25 between the inlet and outlet. - $38.95 from Summit.

These are the tube/fin style (copper tubes and aluminum fins) and have brackets around the fins. They also make different styles, all aluminum ones without brackets and plate/fin ones.

thebigjimsho
04-07-09, 11:45 PM
Thank you!

Naf
04-08-09, 02:00 AM
I kept the original cooler and added another one for additional coolin..HIt the dyno and no spillin. Reved it to 7250rpm in 1-4 and still no spill...

An alternative option for u all, but u will need reducer fittings

Slithering_Joe
04-08-09, 08:23 AM
Hmmmm....with all that in front of the radiator, how does the engine keep cool now?

thebigjimsho
04-08-09, 11:24 AM
Hmmmm....with all that in front of the radiator, how does the engine keep cool now?
vortex induction...

Naf
04-08-09, 03:26 PM
It does, and to be honest the ac is FREEZIN!!!

I have that on low and its still bone chillin...Even with the 25% UD Pulley

shadybx7
04-30-09, 11:31 PM
BUMP,

so can anyone confirm that the new PT# fits in the stock bracket....