: Just got a call from the dealer.



MauiV
07-02-08, 03:01 PM
One of my local dealers is beginning their pre-order tomorrow and he said that along with the fast Black being available with the normal Light Platinum, Thunder Grey that for 09 Crystal Red and Blue Chip will also be available.

Still no White Diamind for those hoping for it.

Cadillac Tony
07-02-08, 03:08 PM
I think your Dealer is a little confused.

Blue Chip and Light Platinum have been discontinued, and White Diamond will be available. I posted all this information in April (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-cts-v-series-forum-2009/138862-2009-cts-v-confirmed-information.html), but here it is again:

2009 CTS-V COLOR CHOICES

Exterior

-(17U) Radiant Silver
-(30U) Thunder Gray Chromaflair*
-(41U) Black Raven
-(58U) Black Ice*
-(89U) Crystal Red Tintcoat*
-(96U) Blue Diamond TriCoat*
-(98U) White Diamond TriCoat*

*Denotes an additional charge

Interior

-(195) Ebony with Ebony Accents (dash pad, upper door panels)
-(845) Light Titanium with Ebony Accents
-(315) Ebony/Light Cashmere Two Tone (Ebony seat edges with Cashmere inserts- Not available when equipped with Optional Recaro seats)

MauiV
07-02-08, 05:07 PM
Hmmmmm, odd.

He did mention that pricing was set to but I forgot to ask before I had to get off the phone.

RightTurn
07-02-08, 09:36 PM
Well for heaven's sake, call him back. :alchi:

StealthV
07-02-08, 10:30 PM
Seeing how I've owned 20+ black cars, tell me more about this Black Ice color Tony. :yup:

Side note - Stormtrooper white diamond will be kick ass with the right supporting tasteful touches.

Cadillac Tony
07-03-08, 08:15 AM
As far as I understand it from our paint supplier, Black Ice is pretty much Black Raven with crushed glass added to the clearcoat layer. As such, all the metal flake sits above the color coat, making it extremely "sparkly" (for lack of a more masculine word :lol:). It looks Black at night and in the shade, but Charcoal Gray metallic in direct sunlight.

It's still foggy and crummy here at 8:15- when the sun comes out, I'll take a few photos and post them up here.


He did mention that pricing was set to but I forgot to ask before I had to get off the phone.

If it's the same guy who didn't know the colors, I wouldn't bother.

CIWS
07-03-08, 08:22 AM
My friend ordered his in Black Ice :D

jasaero
07-03-08, 08:55 AM
My friend ordered his in Black Ice :D

The friend a current Caddy owner or did you help in winning us a convert??

Kadonny
07-03-08, 10:09 AM
As far as I understand it from our paint supplier, Black Ice is pretty much Black Raven with crushed glass added to the clearcoat layer. As such, all the metal flake sits above the color coat, making it extremely "sparkly" (for lack of a more masculine word :lol:). It looks Black at night and in the shade, but Charcoal Gray metallic in direct sunlight.

It's still foggy and crummy here at 8:15- when the sun comes out, I'll take a few photos and post them up here.

If it's the same guy who didn't know the colors, I wouldn't bother.

Tony,

I would love to see the blue and red also....any cars on the lot with those colors? I know the red is available in the CTS, the blue might be a new color.

And what's your thought on the Ebony/cashmere interior? It intrigues me.

Thanks.

CIWS
07-03-08, 10:32 AM
The friend a current Caddy owner or did you help in winning us a convert??


He drove both my CTS-V and STS-V and claims it's my fault he's now ordered an 09V. Hopefully I will get to drive his after it's broken in. :) He's been an SUV guy for many years.

Cadillac Tony
07-03-08, 11:05 AM
Tony,

I would love to see the blue and red also....any cars on the lot with those colors? I know the red is available in the CTS, the blue might be a new color.

And what's your thought on the Ebony/cashmere interior? It intrigues me.

Thanks.

Here's a picture of a Blue Diamond DTS I posted in a different section of the forum. It's very similar to the Black Ice in that it looks a solid color from 10 feet away, but on close inspection there's a LOT of flake in the paint.

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn208/Cadillac_Tony/DSCF1224.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn208/Cadillac_Tony/DSCF1223.jpg

The Crystal Red is the same color offered on the V6 CTS, so here's a picture of ejmachad's car from the 08 forum:

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p222/ejmachad/cts005.jpg

It's still too cruddy outside for the camera to pick up the Black Ice. I'll post a pic when it clears up and the sun comes out.

As far as the two-tone seats, I think they'll look pretty awesome. The only downside is that you can't get that option with the Recaros, so it will be the standard CTS seat in Ebony with a Saddle (brown) insert. This interior doesn't exist yet, so I made a (very crude) Photoshop to give you an idea what it would look like. Hope that helps.

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=43191&d=1215097517

chris1268
07-03-08, 11:08 AM
Thanks for the pics Tony

Cadillac Tony
07-03-08, 11:29 AM
No problem Chris.

Here's the Black Ice: It's still overcast, but if you look at the area around the flash reflection it'll give you a pretty good idea what it looks like in the sun. It has a comparable amount of metallic to the Blue Diamond pic I posted above.

Click the pictures for a larger view.

StealthV
07-03-08, 01:55 PM
Ah, thanks for the Black Ice info Tony. My current drive-to-work beater has a similar paint called black sapphire metallic. It seemed cool at the time but now I wish it was just plain old black. Looks like Raven for me. :)

Albertan
07-03-08, 04:07 PM
[QUOTE=StealthV;1565589]Seeing how I've owned 20+ black cars, tell me more about this Black Ice color Tony. :yup:

Stealth
You should know Black Ice. Isn't that along with 3rd what you hit with the RIP-V??

StealthV
07-03-08, 05:50 PM
Sorry, there were cows with guns involved.

Dr Chill
07-03-08, 06:47 PM
Tony, any good pics of radiant silver?

lawfive
07-03-08, 10:32 PM
The ice... looks like... ugh...

StealthV
07-04-08, 10:58 AM
On the other side of the pond, Black Ice (Black Sapphire Metallic) is the base paint and the upcharge is for the Jet Black (Black Raven).

Curious.

lawfive
07-04-08, 12:08 PM
That's where all the good art comes from. Along with all the best DOHC engines, of course. :devil:

BowenCT
07-04-08, 01:06 PM
All these metal flake paints look like late-80s bass boats...........is that cool?

MauiV
07-04-08, 02:01 PM
I think its FUGLY.

FrgMstr
07-06-08, 03:47 PM
The pictures above in no way do the Black Ice justice. I was split between Raven and Black Ice so I walked the lot to see the paint in person last week. After I walked by at least 20 Black Raven CTS, and only 1 Black Ice, I decided on Black Ice. It just looks a lot deeper and is not going to show every flaw as Raven will.

CIWS
07-07-08, 11:05 AM
The pictures above in no way do the Black Ice justice.


Rarely do pics do real justice to the actual paint(s) appearance in sun or shade. Especially the non standard colors.

Cadillac Tony
07-07-08, 11:30 AM
Very true. I think the Black Ice is sharp as heck, but some people think it has too much metal flake and looks like a dusty black car. :lol: It's all personal taste. If you're thinking about ordering a 2009 CTS-V, stop by your local Dealer and look at the colors on a DTS (since they're available now).

CIWS
07-07-08, 12:49 PM
Very true. I think the Black Ice is sharp as heck, but some people think it has too much metal flake and looks like a dusty black car.

Mine looks like a dusty black car everyday . . .

Thank goodness for a California Duster.

GNSCOTT
07-07-08, 06:13 PM
Black ice will also be a harder color to match and will make scratches stand out more. Some people like a lot of metal flake and some people think it looks too much like old boat paint. I feel if you are going to get black, go with regular black because it is a deeper black.

FrgMstr
07-07-08, 09:37 PM
Very true. I think the Black Ice is sharp as heck, but some people think it has too much metal flake and looks like a dusty black car. :lol: It's all personal taste. If you're thinking about ordering a 2009 CTS-V, stop by your local Dealer and look at the colors on a DTS (since they're available now).


I stopped by my dealer and he had a 2009 CTS in Black Ice, so I got to see it on the "same" car. I am going to stick with Black Ice.

FrgMstr
07-07-08, 09:42 PM
Black ice will also be a harder color to match and will make scratches stand out more. Some people like a lot of metal flake and some people think it looks too much like old boat paint. I feel if you are going to get black, go with regular black because it is a deeper black.

Huh? I have a black H2 (http://www.hummercommunity.com/garage.php?do=viewvehicle&vid=3) (my 4th black ride in my life), that gets driven in the woods a LOT, and a solid black is not the way to go if you are thinking of buffing out a lot of scratches. Hehe. But my dig with Black is that it only takes one bad buff to haze it up or leave the orbital rings swirlies on it. Maybe I am wrong on this, but I have never seen a metal flake paint that was harder to maintain than non-flake black.

The sales guy that walked with me even told me they detail the paint twice on all black cars to get it to look right, but did not on any others.

My 2 cents, you may need change.

Kadonny
07-08-08, 10:44 AM
Tony, thanks a million for the pics. That red looks stunning, but the two tone seats with the Crystal Red might not look all that great.

Black Ice or Blue Diamond with the 2 tones might be the way to go.

Again, thanks for the pics.

Cadillac Tony
07-08-08, 11:07 AM
No problem. :thumbsup:

urbanski
07-08-08, 11:53 AM
howdy frg

HiTechRV
07-08-08, 01:45 PM
Tony A guy who wants to buy the new V asked me about availability. I sent him your way. You may have to explain a little about buying from a distant dealer - not sure he's ever tried but I think it is very likely he will get one. I've been posting OT on some other lists about the worlds records the V is breaking ;-)

Cadillac Tony
07-08-08, 02:08 PM
Thanks a bunch! I did get an email from a guy in CA, so that might have been him. I really appreciate it. :worship:

CIWS
07-09-08, 08:46 AM
Huh? I have a black H2 (my 4th black ride in my life), that gets driven in the woods a LOT

I don't know, that looks like a mix of black and brown to me. ;)




http://www.ciws.info/hummer2.jpg

tmwfla
07-11-08, 10:22 PM
Black? What black? I love that special edition "4x4 brown", though; it seems to be somewhat of a rare color on H2s :bouncy: