: Polyurethane Uuc Mounts In Stock



Lindsay Cadillac Parts
06-25-08, 11:05 AM
after filling all of the pre-orders I have several sets of mounts left from my first shipment of the much anticipated poly engine and trans. We have received great feedback from the handful of customers that have them on their cars already. cost is $430.00 for a pair of engine and 1 trans mount (plus shipping). below is a write up from trukk on the mounts......


"Before my impressions, some background:

1) I have a somewhat lumpy cam in my car. It's not 69 chevelle or nascar lumpy, but it's definately "that doesn't sound like a caddy, AT ALL" lumpy. Those at the Summit event can atest.
2) With my cam in the car, and partially split motor mount, the car was rocking like a van on prom night before the new mounts were put in. I was especially having issues at cold start (it even stalled out a few really cold mornings, partially due to the rocking I think (it was that bad)).
3) My car was the KING of KLUNK. I'm not talking about gee my rear front diff bushing is bad clunk, I'm talking give it a little gass while in gear Klunk, pushing in the clutch at anytime Ka-klunk, get the WTF was that look at every klunk from cars near me while driving.
4) You could look at the shifter knob and see it moving approx .25" while idling. It was really rocking.
5) My car is loud. Loud with the windows down, loud with the windows up.

With all that in mind, I was not anticipating near stock like motor mount civility here. With all that said, here is my impressions:

Cold Start: Not done yet, I'll tell you tomorrow.
Warm Start: No initial discernable difference.
Warm idle: The car used to almost shake the transmission out of the car. Like I said above you could visibly see the tranny vibrating all over the place. It no longer does that. Basically the mounts have transfered that to the rest of the car. You can no longer feel it in the shifter (before at idle it would almost dilocated your shoulder), you can feel it some in the steering wheel. It is not pronounced though, but it's there. Definately not the solid mount feel (no visible shake from outside the car at all). Any other V owner could sit in the drivers seat in my car and know it's not stock mounts (may not be as noticeable in a stock cammed car though). If my wife were to sit in it and drive, I don't think she'd notice (like I said it's there but not that noticeable). You feel more connected to the car, but not in a bad way. For those of you with aftermarked shifters and the Lindsay bushings, it's kinda like that, you 'feel' the car more, and it's good. If you already have bad mounts, the difference is NIGHT AND DAY. You will jump up and down for joy once you get these in place. There is no sound difference at idle.
Warm Driving: KLUNK BE GONE! I still have some rear end klunk, but it is 90% less than what I did have. Mine was so bad, everytime you pushed in the clutch, you felt like the transmission was going to fall out. Throttle response feels better/crisper. From April to October, I drive with the windows down in the car. With the windows down, there is no noise difference from the OEM mounts (my car still sound like a really angry sewing machine, that flames are going to come shooting out of at any moment.) I rolled up the windows, and at speed, there is no sound difference with these in there.
Turn Off: My car had the busted mount shudder for sure before (felt like the car was deiseling almost). It is still there, but it's different now. The length is the same, but now it's more of crisper feeling stacatto, rather than that "i just stepping in a pile of dog poo' feeling. It's hard to explain. I think this is a characteristic of the harder material not being able to absorb the shudder from engine stop as well as fully functional OEM mounts, with thier liquid center. I can absolutely live with this.

Bottom line:
- No noise issues
- You will 'feel' it but it is a good more connected feel, and not bad.
- The 'feel' is realy only their at idle. Normal driving feels the same as before.
- If you already have bad mounts this is a monumental no brainer
- If you liked the 'feel' that an aftermarket short shifter with the stiffer bushings gives you, you will like this mod.
- My guess is that the LS6 guys will feel it a tad bit more than the LS2 guys, since the LS6 cam is a bit more lopey from the start.

Sorry to get all 'feely' on you guys, but it's hard to explain. It also reminds me of when I went from FE4 to FG2 shocks, you just felt more at one with the car.

I'd love to have a few locals take my car for a spin, and give their impressions. Anyone in mid MD area want to meet up, let me know. To all, keep in mind that my car is cammed, so for you stock guys, yours will be even less noticeable than mine.

I COULD NOT BE MORE HAPPY."

trukk
06-25-08, 01:36 PM
...still very happy, after more than a month with them in the car.


I would add that anyone with more than bolt-on mods, you will need these eventually, one way or the other.

-Chris

JonCR96Z
06-25-08, 02:17 PM
I got mine today along with my new caliper (long story). They look great and I can't wait to get them on, but it was somewhat bittersweet as I had tried to order some other stuff from Luke but I guess that I was ignored once again (the story of my life). Oh, well. Maybe next time.

Thanks again, Luke.

Jon

JonCR96Z
06-25-08, 02:47 PM
Luke to the rescue once again. He read the post I just made and called me to straighten out the confusion. Pretty good service if you ask me. Of course, it does seem odd that your job is to read the Cadillac boards?:cool2:

Again, I wasn't trying to discredit Luke or Lindsay in any way and I would say it's more my fault for not following through on my order, but he got me straight and saved me some money in the process. Thanks, Luke.

Jon

heavymetals
06-25-08, 02:57 PM
I bought the set and I have a 10 year warranty! :bonkers:

I figure that when they fail (and they will) I will request that they use these.

The dealer/service is pretty reasonable but if they don't, well...............

lollygagger8
06-25-08, 03:06 PM
Anybody ever do a writeup on installing Motor Mounts?? I searched and found alot of people asking about MM's but no install directions. Can anyone post instructions?

CTSV_510
06-25-08, 03:10 PM
Anybody ever do a writeup on installing Motor Mounts?? I searched and found alot of people asking about MM's but no install directions. Can anyone post instructions?

dun da na nun ... sounds like a job for .... lollygagger8!!!!

lollygagger8
06-25-08, 03:33 PM
dun da na nun ... sounds like a job for .... lollygagger8!!!!


Boooooooooo!!!:hide:

trukk
06-25-08, 04:03 PM
Luke to the rescue once again. He read the post I just made and called me to straighten out the confusion. Pretty good service if you ask me. Of course, it does seem odd that your job is to read the Cadillac boards?:cool2:

Again, I wasn't trying to discredit Luke or Lindsay in any way and I would say it's more my fault for not following through on my order, but he got me straight and saved me some money in the process. Thanks, Luke.

Jon

Luke is good people, and a straight shooter. Can't ask for more than that from a 'sales guy' :D

-Chris

Twitch
06-25-08, 04:46 PM
dun da na nun ... sounds like a job for .... lollygagger8!!!!
LOL

Actually, I asked that question on the original thread about the mounts. Bill gave a step by step on what to do. Sounded like a bit of a bitch, but I think the dealer wants a few hundred buck to put them on.
Do a search. It wasn't too long ago.

Tony

ewill3rd
06-25-08, 06:47 PM
Not sure how descriptive I might have been.
There would be two procedures, with headers or without.
Not much difference but you need some tools.

I do remember doing a quick writeup, maybe someone could link it up?
I am late for a meeting!!

CTSV_510
06-25-08, 08:23 PM
Here Bill, are your posts from the other thread:


It would certainly be a lot of work depending on your setup.
It isn't so bad with a lift and impact tools, I can't imagine doing it by hand with just ratchets and laying on the ground.
Assuming hand tools, floor jacks, jack stands, etc....:

If you have headers, they have to come off.
The exhaust behind the cats has to come off, and if it has OE converters it is a lot easier if you remove them, also a pain without impact tools.
The battery should be disconnected.
The engine has to be raised up
The mounts are held to the frame by 2 bolts down from the top... hard to reach, and two studs and 21mm nuts from the bottom.
The left mount has 2 bolts on top and two studs on bottom holding it to the block
The right mount has 3 bolts holding it to the block.
The mounts and brackets have to come out together, easier with the cats off. The right side, if you don't know the trick, you'll have to take off the starter.
If you do know the trick you can get the lower 21mm nut off the bracket in the car, again, requires impact tools and the right setup.
From there it is pulling them out, getting them swapped and getting them back in.
Reverse the removal basically and bolt it all up, check to be sure all the fasteners are tightened (especially if you have helpers *cough* :D)
Most of the work is done from below.
As I said we usually charge around 5 hours COD, I can only imagine that this would be a weekend project with a buddy and a couple of six packs at least.

Almost worth it to pay me to do it ;)

For those of you who are out of Lindsay "range" I might be able to put up a pictorial and load it to my private website.
(I have my own domain :) )
I don't want everyone in the world going there (I have a cheap hosting package) so maybe I could work out something to go in the FAQ with the powers that be.
I have a set to put in today for qquik so I can snap some photos as we go if that is okay with him.
I am almost out of photo room on this site because of all the stuff I have uploaded in the past and I know the pics would put me over the top.
I could do photobucket but it is websense blocked from work :(

This new set goes in pretty easy in comparison to some jobs.


The base time is 4.6 in alldata.

Someone might add time for headers, depends on where they are done.

lollygagger8
06-26-08, 10:51 AM
Sweet. Well since I am poor and like to make it hard on myself...it would be in my driveway on some ramps.

How would one suggest raising the engine? Like a certain place on the engine or mounting point to jack it up from the bottom? or certain points to bolt a cherry picker to from the top? How do you guys raise the engine while it's on the lift?

Sounds like PITA (imagine that)

ewill3rd
06-26-08, 07:13 PM
The oil pan on this engine is pretty tough, we actually support them under the oil pan using a jackstand and a block of wood.
(I don't like to use the stand directly on the pan)