: Anyone using AVG antivirus?



Ranger
05-26-08, 04:55 PM
After it does it's regular updates I get a pop up box that says AVG 7.5 (free addition) will no longer be updated or supported after May31. It send you to download the 8.0 version, but I do not see a free version. Does this mean AVG is no longer going to offer a free version or am I doing something wrong? What say ye computer Guru's.

RightTurn
05-26-08, 04:59 PM
The 8.0 free version is available for download. Try this, Ranger... http://www.grisoft.com/ww.product-avg-anti-virus-free-edition#tba2

Ranger
05-26-08, 05:10 PM
Thank you. :worship: I knew someone would come through. Next question. Should I uninstall what I have and delete it or will the 8.0 version simply overwrite and update it?

RightTurn
05-26-08, 05:16 PM
Look here... http://www.grisoft.com/ww.support

Ranger
05-26-08, 05:34 PM
Thanks again. Actually the second link all seemed to be for the paid version, but I saw the download button on the first. I'll just give it a shot tomorrow when I'm at home. If it completely loads a new one, I'll just delete the old one. Hope it's not one of those 2-3 hr downloads (I'm still on dial up).

RightTurn
05-26-08, 05:44 PM
Ranger--on the AVG forums, the FAQ says that you should uninstall 7.5 before installing 8.0. Here's a link to their free forum in case you'd like to register and read... http://freeforum.avg.com/index.php?0

Ranger
05-26-08, 05:58 PM
I guess since I already have 7.5 I should be in good shape and it should not take too long. Thanks again. Not very computer savvy as you can tell. You guys and JimmyH are my saviors. :worship:

RightTurn
05-26-08, 07:40 PM
It's like being a shade-tree mechanic. Just jump in there with the wrenches and learn. :lol: (Just make sure you have the boot disk so you can reload the operating system...hahaha..just kidding!!)

AMGoff
05-26-08, 09:10 PM
AVG is the only anti-virus I'll run on Windows boxes... small footprint, yet catches as much if not more than the "big boys."

I haven't updated to 8 yet on the machines at work... I'm glad this was brought up, I'll be typing up a memo this evening... that'll definitely be a project for this week!

I'm glad RT was able to find the free version for you Ranger... I hadn't checked into it myself. If for some reason there wasn't, I would have gladly thrown you one of our license numbers.

Anyway... just to echo RT and AVG themselves, I would definitely uninstall version 7.5 before updating to 8. Who know, a straight upgrade may run smoothly... but if I remember correctly, when we installed version 7.5 it installed along side of v7.0. Nonetheless... it's always a good measure!

Oh... BTW - did you ever get all of your FireFox woes straightened out? What was the final solution/outcome??

ewill3rd
05-26-08, 09:40 PM
We use it at work, I use Live one care on my 8 computers. (3 at work)
I could get the AVG installed on mine by my IT guy but from what I have seen I don't like it much.

We got hit by something last year that it didn't catch. I heard a few computers were affected but I guess it wasn't something major.

I got hit by a Klez variant in CA when I was too cheap to worry about AV software. Some sales lady opened up a corrupted email and man it tore up the boss's PC and about 4 others on the network. She didn't last long.
I was the IT guy there so I had to fix them all.
Man my boss was hot when he came to work and his PC was gone, I had to nuke it and reload everything and he had a meeting scheduled for early. That will teach me to listen to the business manager when she tells me to "go ahead and take it out of his office" :lol:

Ranger
05-26-08, 09:40 PM
Apparently it was not a Firefox issue. JimmyH could not find a problem and it pretty much just went away on it's own. PFM I guess.

dkozloski
05-26-08, 10:35 PM
I use Norton AV and Microsoft Windows Defender and have zero problems. I can open just about anything you could imagine and they'll nab it before any damage is done.

Ranger
05-27-08, 12:16 PM
OK, tried to download it, but windows needed an update. That took over 2 hrs. Now AVG says "write error, probably disc is full". Do I have to start over? Should I have "saved to computer" instead of "open"? I think it went to temporary files. I'm guessing that was wrong? HELP!

dwight.j.carter
05-27-08, 12:53 PM
not sure if this works with dialup but on broadband you can just click the download again and hit save and it should go pretty much instantly.

AMGoff
05-27-08, 01:07 PM
OK, tried to download it, but windows needed an update. That took over 2 hrs. Now AVG says "write error, probably disc is full". Do I have to start over? Should I have "saved to computer" instead of "open"? I think it went to temporary files. I'm guessing that was wrong? HELP!

Whenever you download any sort of application, it's always best to "Save to Computer" and not download to open.

Ranger
05-27-08, 04:16 PM
OK. I'll do it again when I get home tonight and save to computer. Right now I have an icon on my desk top for the new 8.0 version, but when I try to open it, nothing happens. Guess that's a good sign that I have to start over.

thebigjimsho
05-27-08, 11:10 PM
Excellent thread. I use AVG and need to upgrade soon...

RightTurn
05-28-08, 07:42 AM
Ranger--I forgot to mention that you should check to see if the new version is compatible with your OS and what the system requirements are. I don't know what you're running but if it's old stuff you may have issues. Sorry I forgot to bring this up before.

Ranger
05-28-08, 10:34 AM
I am using Windows 2000 and had to update it. Got it installed and it seems to have slowed my already slow dial up down even more. It keeps telling me that update manager is disabled, but nothing I do seems to enable it. I also had it install a tool bar at the top that I would like to get rid of, but can't seem to do that either. Why can't these things be simple. I hate computers.

Ranger
05-28-08, 11:22 AM
All right. Something is wrong. I am simply unable to change any settings in this thing. What do I do? Uninstall? Reinstall? :banghead:

caddycruiser
05-28-08, 12:30 PM
Just uninstalled 7.5 on both my PC and mom's new Vista laptop, and reinstalled 8.0 and all is well. That was easy, and thankfully no error blips at all.

Ranger
05-28-08, 04:02 PM
OK, maybe that's what I need to do when I get home tonight. Uninstall everything and start over. Does that mean after I uninstall, I have to do the download again? :mad:

RightTurn
05-28-08, 09:00 PM
Ranger, what kind of problem are you having? Does the new version run at all? Any errors? If you uninstall everything, you should NOT have to download again if the 8.0 program files are still in the folder you downloaded to. Just execute the setup/install file once you are ready to try again.

Ranger
05-28-08, 09:34 PM
OK, I will uninstall and then reinstall. Nothing seems to work. I cannot change any settings. It says update manager is disabled, but when I try to enable it, nothing happens and any setting changes I make, don't stick. Something is wrong. I just don't know what.

Boombotz
05-28-08, 11:19 PM
I just did our update and when you go through the install process it uninstalls the old one for you. I had it done in about 10 minutes. Good luck.

Ranger
05-29-08, 03:02 AM
No luck. I uninstalled and reinstalled and still the same shit. Unable to change settings. Update manager disabled and unable to enable and change the settings. "Updates failed' when I tried to up date the latest updates during the installation process. I'm at a loss. :banghead:

Ranger
05-29-08, 11:29 AM
Just tried to do a manual update. After a 6 min. download and then the installation process I get "update failed, lost connection with update sever" or something like that. Update manager still disabled and unable to change any settings. I am at a total loss.

dkozloski
05-29-08, 01:06 PM
Free software is worth every penny. It sounds to me like now you've got registry issues. Unless you can find some kind of cleaner program your only hope is System Restore.

Ranger
05-29-08, 05:30 PM
Well, the free version of 7.5 worked well for years. I wonder if downloading it again and THEN reinstalling it would be of any help?

Ranger
05-29-08, 06:38 PM
Well, in doing some internet searching, it appears that many people are having problems with 8.0. I've seen several good comments about Avast. Any comments or advice from you computer guru's?

EDIT:
Ok, the more I read, the more I think I should uninstall everything and download again from someone other than Grisoft. Maybe it was a corrupt download?

ewill3rd
05-29-08, 08:22 PM
I always have luck with download.com files.

dkozloski
05-29-08, 08:32 PM
Why not shoo the moths out of your wallet and BUY real virus protection. It's hard to believe that a Cadillac aficionado would be unwilling to invest in a shield for his life's work.

This is like running reclaimed crankcase drainings in your Corvette because you don't think it's worth new oil. Forgive me for not being more sympathetic but this is too good an example of penny wise and pound foolish to let pass without comment.

Ranger
05-29-08, 09:11 PM
I always have luck with download.com files.
Thanks Bill, I'll give it a try.

AMGoff
05-30-08, 12:50 AM
Why not shoo the moths out of your wallet and BUY real virus protection. It's hard to believe that a Cadillac aficionado would be unwilling to invest in a shield for his life's work.

This is like running reclaimed crankcase drainings in your Corvette because you don't think it's worth new oil. Forgive me for not being more sympathetic but this is too good an example of penny wise and pound foolish to let pass without comment.

Just because Norton found one sucker, that doesn't mean they need to find more.

I know it's most likely completely incomprehensible... but there are other things out there in the computer world, even free things that work just fine - AVG is one of them. And as Ranger has already pointed out, the v7.5 he's been using has served him well for a long time. His problem is stemming from a new, upgraded version.. which happens with lots of different applications, not just this one.

If you're happy with your system resource hog, that's fine... but Ranger's machine already has limited resources, so the last thing he needs is to pay for some giant piece of bloatware that will slow his system to a crawl.

K?


I am using Windows 2000 and had to update it. Got it installed and it seems to have slowed my already slow dial up down even more. It keeps telling me that update manager is disabled, but nothing I do seems to enable it. I also had it install a tool bar at the top that I would like to get rid of, but can't seem to do that either. Why can't these things be simple. I hate computers.


No luck. I uninstalled and reinstalled and still the same shit. Unable to change settings. Update manager disabled and unable to enable and change the settings. "Updates failed' when I tried to up date the latest updates during the installation process. I'm at a loss. :banghead:

Anyway... Ranger, are you saying that your getting errors with your Windows Update Manager?

Try this... boot into safe mode and uninstall AVG. Log back into regular Windows and try reinstalling the program. You can try downloading it again, I doubt you would have gotten a corrupted file from Grisoft though.

If you're still having trouble... go to Grisoft's main site and download 7.5 Network edition... If you do that, I'll shoot you off a license number which will activate it. Our license is good through the fall and will at least give you a few more months of peace of mind. After that, just remind me when it's coming due and I'll send you the upgrade license.

AMGoff
05-30-08, 12:56 AM
Also.. while it's still a stable platform. Windows 2000 is getting pretty long in the tooth as far as operating systems go. I really wouldn't be surprised if you start running into more and more problems with it.

I forget what exactly your system specs are... but can it handle XP? It might just need a RAM upgrade. If you like, I'd be more than happy to set you up with a licensed copy of XP as well... I probably even have a few sticks of memory laying around that you could use too.

Just a suggestion... let me know what you think!

ewill3rd
05-30-08, 06:58 AM
Okay now this is just making me want to build a new computer... :lol:

Seriously though I have had issues with the "big" names in AV.
Norton is too pricey, especially for me to run on 8 machines!
McaFee? I tried that once and my computer just quit working until I uninstalled everything I could find (which took a while) that their software installed.
Live one care is twitchy, but it seems to work for me and they have some handsome options with regard to multi-machine licensing that make it appealing to me and I haven't had any issues since I installed it.

It does annoy me with popups with the latest version because the machines I use most monitor the other ones. Everytime Windows comes out with another update it bugs me to go update them all.
Most of them are set to auto download updates but the worst is my mother in law's computer because I never go down there.
At any rate, I have been cruising a year and a half trouble free with live one care even though it takes a while to tweak the controls to my liking on each machine.

Ranger
05-30-08, 11:01 AM
Amgoff, no I don't think it is windows update manager. It seems to be the update manager in the AVG program (if there is a difference). Like I have said before I am far from computer literate and am feeling my way through here, but learning. I do remember seeing safe mode, though I have to admit I have no idea what that is or does. I'll find it and go into it later, uninstall and redownload, that should take a few hours. Just for clarification, are you saying safe mode only for the uninstall and then go out of safe mode for the download again?

Yeah, this computer is a bit long in the tooth. I have talked to JimmyH about a replacement. I was going to wait till I got DSL, but now it appears that may be a while so I have to rethink this. Anyway, I really appreciate help and useful advice. I'll try again later this afternoon and let you know how it went.

AMGoff
05-30-08, 12:15 PM
Okay... that's where I was getting a little confused.

I can't understand why AVG update manager would be giving you any hassle... just to clarify - is the update manager giving you trouble after you install the new v8.0 or before??

Anyway... as far as safe mode goes... you can only bring it up when you first turn on your machine... you press the F8 key (I believe... I think some computers may be different) to bring up with Windows boot menu and you select safe mode. All safe mode does is load up a "barebones" Windows without any miscellaneous services running, that way you can go to your Add/Remove Programs control panel and easily remove your old copy of AVG. Then just reboot into normal Windows and try installing the new version.

Windows is a PITA on a broadband connect.... I've tried to block all memory of it on dialup, lol!

**Since JimmyH doesn't like his iMac anymore, he should just give it to you.... I think you of all people Ranger, would love the Mac.

ewill3rd
05-30-08, 08:29 PM
Did you say "dialup"???
ACK!

I can't stand DSL either. Twice as fast as dailup at least but still.
I am on a medium grade cable service and it is okay. Faster would be more fun but there are two things holding me back.

1. The cost.
2. I really don't need to see porn that fast, I can wait :histeric:
(I kid, I kid ;) )

Yeah I am pretty sure F8 during boot up is safe mode.
Safe mode just loads enough stuff to use the machine but no fancy applications and 16 colors on the desktop.
Pretty ugly but good for some stuff. I don't need it much anymore with XP.

AMGoff
05-31-08, 12:29 AM
I can't stand DSL either. Twice as fast as dailup at least but still.


DSL is quite a bit more than just twice as fast than dialup... A 128K ISDN connection would be twice as fast.

We've got a 3Mbit DSL connection... which is more like fifty times faster and it's only 30-some bucks a month. I believe the standard cable package around here is 6Mbit and for everyday browsing, one really can't tell the difference.

But I can't stand Comcast... so my next connection upgrade will be FIOS.

dkozloski
05-31-08, 12:50 AM
AMGoff, I think you're giving NortonAV a bad rap as a resource hog. If you enable the entire Norton package it'll bring the most powerful system to its knees but I have all the monitoring features such as System Doctor and the like disabled. The only thing I use is AV. Looking at the system processes window I don't see anything untoward. Maybe you could substantiate your claim with some details.

ewill3rd
05-31-08, 06:52 AM
I'd like to try FiOS but...

1. I don't want to change my main email address. My life is currently tied to my email address and changing it would be a total freaking nightmare.
2. All the "deals" verizon offers me are internet, tv, and phone. I don't want phone. I don't need a phone. My wife and I are one of those goofy couples that have cell phones and that is all. The only phones we have in the house are used for intercom purposes and we use our cellulars for everything else. Saves me over $100 a month that way
3. I don't like Verizon
4. I just got my home network working the way I want it to and I don't want some knucklehead screwing up my stuff running cables and setting up equipment or finding that my old equipment won't work with their services. (I just bought a new router and modem)
5. I don't like Verizon (:lol:)
6. My current service really isn't that bad and I have to say I am satisfied with it
7. It isn't worth the aggrevation to save $5 a month... and frankly I don't trust that the long term savings will pan out. I think after a year or so they'll start jacking up prices any way and then where will I be?
8. I have heard lots of horror stories about FiOS and Verizon

Ranger
05-31-08, 07:24 PM
Sorry for the delayed answer. I lost power Friday morning and did not get it back till Saturday evening. Lanterns, candles and generators suck.

Anyway, the problem was only after the install of 8.0. Needless to say I have not had time to uninstal and redownload yet.

Yes Bill, I'm still stuck on dialup. :( I'm in a rural area and probably won't see DSL from what I have been told. Fiber optics will likely get here before that.

Okay... that's where I was getting a little confused.

I can't understand why AVG update manager would be giving you any hassle... just to clarify - is the update manager giving you trouble after you install the new v8.0 or before??

Anyway... as far as safe mode goes... you can only bring it up when you first turn on your machine... you press the F8 key (I believe... I think some computers may be different) to bring up with Windows boot menu and you select safe mode. All safe mode does is load up a "barebones" Windows without any miscellaneous services running, that way you can go to your Add/Remove Programs control panel and easily remove your old copy of AVG. Then just reboot into normal Windows and try installing the new version.

Windows is a PITA on a broadband connect.... I've tried to block all memory of it on dialup, lol!

**Since JimmyH doesn't like his iMac anymore, he should just give it to you.... I think you of all people Ranger, would love the Mac.

thefred
05-31-08, 09:39 PM
Not to threadjack, but is anyone using Clamwin? Its another free one and our IT people switched us over to it instead of programs we had previously been paying for. We've been on it for over a year with no problems.....knock on wood....

Ranger
05-31-08, 09:49 PM
Update.

I finally did uninstall AVG 8.0. After doing so reading on the net about it, one common complaint I have noticed was that it really slowed things down and I can now attest to that. Even dialup seems fast without it so I am now a little leary to reinstall it, though I have headr and read that AVG was one of the best. Any constructive suggestions? What are you guys using? Dare I try it again?

Ranger
06-01-08, 02:43 PM
Well after a lot of searching the web and reading up on it, it seems that a lot of people are having some type of problem or other with AVG 8.0 and AVG seems to be falling out of favor with a lot of people . Avast seemed to be rather highly recommended so I gave it a try and downloaded it (took a little less that 2 hrs). From what I have seen so far, read (and understand) I am pretty happy so far. This site took forever to load a new page or thread with AVG. It almost seems like DSL now, in comparison. :) I am protected and happy again. Thanks again to all those who offered help.

ewill3rd
06-01-08, 09:21 PM
Glad to hear you found a solution to your liking.
I don't know much about the stuff I don't use anymore. I used to read up on it but there is just too much information out there these days.
As I said, Live One Care seems to work fine for me.
I don't notice any system slowage but as mentioned it takes some tweaking to get it the way I want it.
I don't do file backups because I rarely need to except photos and I burn them in groups.
I store them by year and month on my 'puter and when I feel the mood I burn a year or two onto CD or DVD depending on how many there are. Plus I like to make copies to send to Mom and Dad back in MO.

I had DSL in CA, it was fine but not too good for gaming, now that I have good service I don't play games anymore :(
I think my DSL was through PacBell and I had service issues, not all the time but when I did it was rediculous.

I'll make sure to post small photos for you Ranger :D

RightTurn
06-01-08, 09:47 PM
Glad you got this resolved, Ranger. I haven't used Avast but it does get good reviews.

RightTurn
06-01-08, 09:48 PM
AMGoff, I think you're giving NortonAV a bad rap as a resource hog. If you enable the entire Norton package it'll bring the most powerful system to its knees but I have all the monitoring features such as System Doctor and the like disabled. The only thing I use is AV. Looking at the system processes window I don't see anything untoward. Maybe you could substantiate your claim with some details.

Dave, all of the "Internet Security Suite" type packages are resource hogs. Besides which, they infiltrate EVERY FRACKIN' THING and are a general PITA. Glad you are happy with Norton, but one size definitely does not fit all.

dkozloski
06-01-08, 11:14 PM
Dave, all of the "Internet Security Suite" type packages are resource hogs. Besides which, they infiltrate EVERY FRACKIN' THING and are a general PITA. Glad you are happy with Norton, but one size definitely does not fit all.
I don't use the entire Internet security package. I only installed the anti-virus portion and it is very efficient. I agree that if you install all the bells and whistles it'll bring any computer to its knees but the installation routine allows you to only install what you really need. If you mindlessly select the "normal" installation you'll be sorry. I didn't and it works very well for me.

ewill3rd
06-02-08, 06:33 AM
I never could figure out how to disable all of Norton's extra crap to make it worth my while to leave on the computer.
Only time I really used it was when my wife's college provided it for free.
I still contend McAfee is the worst, although I haven't used it for years so maybe they got it working.
I never had a windows machine that would run worth a darn after it was installed.

RightTurn
06-02-08, 08:30 AM
:yeah: +1 on the McAfee...it is a major PITA.

thebigjimsho
06-02-08, 09:14 AM
I barely notice any slowdown on my compy with 8.0 installed. And I've got an Ad-Aware scan going on, too...

ewill3rd
06-02-08, 09:42 AM
I think McAfee worked okay on my Windows 3.11 machine. :histeric:

Ranger
06-02-08, 11:33 AM
Unfortunately I do select normal installation because I don't understand enough about it to know what I need and don't need. I probably could speed it up a bit if I knew what to disable.